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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 11:56
by kikibalt
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Frank yesterday Randy and you were talking about Juanito's,and how they got started in the 1950s, well in Vegas we didn't start getting the more authentic Mexican food until about 20 years ago, sure we had plenty of Mexican restaurants 50 years ago like Macayo's and Ricardos but they are more Americanized, but now with the big Mexican population we now have we have plenty of the authentic Taco shops, which I frequent.
Just don't go to "Taco Bell" and call it "authentic Mexican" food.... :lol: :OhYes:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 12:20
by Randyman
I'm on my second cup of coffee and I just finished my breakfast of two properly steamed Juanito's tamales with a couple of over easy eggs, Good stuff!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 12:28
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Frank yesterday Randy and you were talking about Juanito's,and how they got started in the 1950s, well in Vegas we didn't start getting the more authentic Mexican food until about 20 years ago, sure we had plenty of Mexican restaurants 50 years ago like Macayo's and Ricardos but they are more Americanized, but now with the big Mexican population we now have we have plenty of the authentic Taco shops, which I frequent.
Just don't go to "Taco Bell" and call it "authentic Mexican" food.... :lol: :OhYes:
I may have to say a couple of "Our Father's and "Hail Mary's" after this, I eat at taco bell but I don't think it's real Mexican food. The kids liked it growing up and now the grandkids like eating there, so I guess I just got used to it. Ahh, confession is good for the soul!

Paulie, about twenty years ago Jeri and I ate at a really good Mexican restaurant in Vegas. I could never remember the name or location, only that it was on the second level in a small complex. I just remember that the food was the real deal and delicious.

Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 12:33
by kikibalt
Randy, you need to write a review on Juanito's tamales. Years ago Juanito's tamales would always win the blue ribbon at the L.A county Fair

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 12:34
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:I'm on my second cup of coffee and I just finished my breakfast of two properly steamed Juanito's tamales with a couple of over east eggs, Good stuff!
:TU: :bow: :TU: :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 12:49
by Randyman
bennie wrote:Danny Nardico passed away last month (November 22) without a line in the boxing press but the only man to floor Jake LaMotta ranks as one of the most exciting fighters of all time, a fighter who put everything into every punch, who went out to hurt or be hurt. His fights, quite simply, were savage.
Danny did the unthinkable when he dropped LaMotta with a big right hand in the seventh round of a nationally televised brawl in the States in December 1952. He then pummelled LaMotta for the remainder of the round, with Jake hanging on to the ropes to stay upright. LaMotta was pulled out at the bell, quitting boxing soon afterwards.
Nardico's feat earned him a decider with Joey Maxim for the right to challenge world light-heavyweight champion Archie Moore and he floored the classy former champion in the eighth round but Maxim, always good against the wild men, survived to take a unanimous 10-round decision in Florida in March 1953. Three months later, Maxim conceded a desperately close decision to Moore.
The fight that really defines Nardico came against dangerous heavyweight contender Charley Norkus in a battle of ex-marines in Miami in January 1954. Nardico was no heavyweight and he went down six times but he dropped Norkus twice in return before he was stopped in the ninth round of an unforgettable fight, a fight Charley Norkus Junior describes as "a real bloodbath". Incredibly the two met again just eight weeks later, with Norkus dominating and taking a 10-round decision.
"For years my father tried to contact Danny...", adds Charley. "My father was told, and I think he realized, that he did a lot of damage to Danny in those two fights, that Danny was not the same afterwards and hung them up shortly after."
Unsurprisingly, Nardico went down a storm with TV and was once desperately close to a shot at Rocky Marciano for the world heavyweight title but Norkus put paid to that. He retired in the summer of 1954 with a record of 50-13-4 (35), still only 26, and went on to forge a career in the prison service before developing Alzheimer's in recent years.
Danny's wars with LaMotta, Norkus, Harry "Kid" Matthews, Robert Villemain and "Irish" Bob Murphy mean he will never be forgotten. Even in boxing's golden era, this man stood out.


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Great write up Bennie. My condolences to the family of Danny Nardico. The following is from boxrec.com
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Name: Danny Nardico
Birth Name: Daniel R. Nardico
Born: 1927-07-03
Birthplace: Painesville, Ohio, USA
Died: 2010-11-22 (Age:83)
Nationality: US American
Hometown: Tampa, Florida, USA
Boxing Record: click
Stance: Orthodox
Height: 5′ 9½″ / 177cm
Trainer: Bill Gore

Daniel R. "Danny" Nardico was awarded the Silver Star on Okinawa, Ryukyu Islands on May 2, 1945, during World War II, while serving in the U.S. Marine Corps. The Silver Star is the third highest medal awarded by the Corps for bravery above and beyond the call of duty. His legs bore the scars of his war-time experience. Commenting on going into professional boxing, "After World War II, everything in life is a cakewalk."
The only fighter to deck former world middleweight champion Jake LaMotta, Nardico was furious when the movie, Raging Bull, failed to mention his knockdown of LaMotta.

Here is a link to a youtube video of Nardico's fight with LaMotta.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta3GFGc250E

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 12:51
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:Randy, you need to write a review on Juanito's tamales. Years ago Juanito's tamales would always win the blue ribbon at the L.A county Fair
I might do that. They're deserving of a Blue Ribbon that's for sure. :TU: :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 12:54
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:I'm on my second cup of coffee and I just finished my breakfast of two properly steamed Juanito's tamales with a couple of over east eggs, Good stuff!
:TU: :bow: :TU: :bow:
Oops! :oops: I meant to say over easy, not over east.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:20
by kikibalt
Elaine Kaufman, legendary proprietor of Manhattan writer's haunt
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/ ... 2217.story

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:24
by Randyman
bennie wrote:
Randyman wrote:I mentioned a few weeks ago that my daughter Meranda had won tickets to the Marquez v Katsidis fight on the 27th of last month, via a contest on Twitter. Golden Boy Promotions gave her the VIP treatment. A limo picked up my daughter and her gal pals as well as the husband of one of her friends, from their hotel rooms. They were given good seats, and my daughter got to spend some time with Oscar and attend the post fight press conference. They all had a great time. These are a few of the photos she took.

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Meranda De La O and Oscar De La Hoya

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Larry Merchant and that looks like Lou DiBella with him

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Marquez and Katsidis

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After the fight

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Juan Manuel Marquez at the post fight press conference

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My daughter Meranda (center) with her two friends

Nice photos. Your daughter has style, Randy.
Thank you Bennie, she is almost single handedly responsible for my gray hair and wrinkles.

Last weekend I was telling Rick, that my kids thought I walked on water, when they were young. One night back in the early 90's we had lot of company over to watch a fight, I don't remember who was fighting but it was probably Mike Tyson, considering the question Meranda asked. My daughter looked me straight in the eye and asked me "Dad, can you take Mike Tyson?". Suddenly the room went so quiet you would have thought E.F. Hutton was speaking. Every single person in that room was just waiting to see how I was going to answer that question.

That might seem like an easy question to answer but I have to admit I was as proud and as full of sh*t as the next guy back then. How could I tell my daughter, who thought I could lick anyone in the world I couldn't take Mike Tyson? How could I lie in front of everyone in the room, they would have died on the spot from laughter and disbelief. All I could muster was a weak and sheepish "Well, honey, Tyson is a heavyweight". Nobody in the room could call me a liar and I didn't exactly tell my daughter no. There were few snickers but I could live with that. Then my daughter looked at me and said "Oh, You know you can take him, you're just being humble and don't want to say anything". I don't think anyone in the house wanted to see my daughter let down. They let me off the hook. :oops:

I don't think she still believes I could take Mike Tyson but she treats me good.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:26
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:Elaine Kaufman, legendary proprietor of Manhattan writer's haunt
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituari...,2412217.story
Frank, I get this message when I click on the link.
We are sorry, but the server is temporarily unavailable. Please try back later.

anyone else"

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:28
by Panzerfaust
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Elaine Kaufman, legendary proprietor of Manhattan writer's haunt
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituari...,2412217.story
Frank, I get this message when I click on the link.
We are sorry, but the server is temporarily unavailable. Please try back later.

anyone else"
Same her Randy :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:29
by Rick Farris
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Good morning all, just woke up, got to get the coffee going. :OhYes:
Friends & Fighters . . .

Good morning guys. Slept a little late this morning. In my business I'm an independent film tech, so I work on a variety of productions and some are better than others. What makes the jobs better or worse is always the crew, the people you work with. The guys I'm working with on this one are great, a lot of old friends and a few new ones. I'm not talking about actors, producers, etc. but the technicians who design and build the sets, the electricians who run the power, the lighting techs who hang the lights, the grips, painters, set decorators, etc. the guys who get their hands dirty making a film happen. The best artists & craftsmen in the film world, all brought together on a $300 million 3D feature film . . .Spider Man-4.

I'm not the lighting designer on this one, just one of the guys on the lighting crew, and I'm enjoying the twelve hours I spend on the pre-lighting crew each day. Lots of boxing fans on the crew, and I'm not the only former boxer. We have a guy who I've known for several years now, Eddie Gutierrez. Eddie is a construction grip foreman, 38-years old, and boxed both amateur and pro in L.A. Eddie grew up on the Westside, the streets of Venice, Culver City barrios. Eddie got involved with gangs at a young age. He was a street fighter and found his way to a boxing gym and attempted to fight for trophies and medals instead of revenge. He would go in and out of boxing, until one day hooking up with Hall of Fame trainer, Joe Goossen. Eddie turned pro under Goossen and would have close to a dozen pro fights. After his career was over he found his way into the film business and is one of the best construction grips in town.

Another co-worker of mine on the lighting crew is Christian. Christian has been involved with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, MMA & grappling since a young boy. Christian runs a BJJ Dojo in Long Beach and is a fan of boxing and all fighting arts, as am I. Then there is Jose, a former amateur flyweight from ELA, whom just joined our rigging crew. As we go thru our day rigging and pre-lighting Stage 30 at Sony Studios, there is a lot of boxing talk, as along with the fighters there are many boxing fans on the crew.

For me, this is the best of the best, great guys, great job, boxing and film making.
As I've mentioned before on this thread, sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear eats you.
I'll be eating bear for the next six months. :OhYes: :lol: :bag:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:30
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Elaine Kaufman, legendary proprietor of Manhattan writer's haunt
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituari...,2412217.story
Frank, I get this message when I click on the link.
We are sorry, but the server is temporarily unavailable. Please try back later.

anyone else"
Randy, Rick, it should work now.

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/ ... 2217.story

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:32
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Elaine Kaufman, legendary proprietor of Manhattan writer's haunt
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituari...,2412217.story
Frank, I get this message when I click on the link.
We are sorry, but the server is temporarily unavailable. Please try back later.

anyone else"
Randy, it should work now.
Nope

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:33
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote: Frank, I get this message when I click on the link.
We are sorry, but the server is temporarily unavailable. Please try back later.

anyone else"
Randy, it should work now.
Nope
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/ ... 2217.story

Try it here.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:36
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Frank yesterday Randy and you were talking about Juanito's,and how they got started in the 1950s, well in Vegas we didn't start getting the more authentic Mexican food until about 20 years ago, sure we had plenty of Mexican restaurants 50 years ago like Macayo's and Ricardos but they are more Americanized, but now with the big Mexican population we now have we have plenty of the authentic Taco shops, which I frequent.
Just don't go to "Taco Bell" and call it "authentic Mexican" food.... :lol: :OhYes:
I love Mexican food and great tamales are my favorite.
For the past two days you guys have been posting photos of tamales, and writing about them.
I just told Monica that I'm driving to ELA to pick up our dinner tonight, tamales!
Thanks for telling me where to find them. I used to go to a place in Pacoima, "Soto's", where Johnny Flores would go.
Soto's has been gone for years, so now I know where I can find the good stuff. :OhYes:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:44
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote: Randy, it should work now.
Nope
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/ ... 2217.story

Try it here.
Got it Frank. Great, great obit. Not too many left from that era. The legends big and small are leaving us. :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:45
by Randyman
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Frank yesterday Randy and you were talking about Juanito's,and how they got started in the 1950s, well in Vegas we didn't start getting the more authentic Mexican food until about 20 years ago, sure we had plenty of Mexican restaurants 50 years ago like Macayo's and Ricardos but they are more Americanized, but now with the big Mexican population we now have we have plenty of the authentic Taco shops, which I frequent.
Just don't go to "Taco Bell" and call it "authentic Mexican" food.... :lol: :OhYes:
I love Mexican food and great tamales are my favorite.
For the past two days you guys have been posting photos of tamales, and writing about them.
I just told Monica that I'm driving to ELA to pick up our dinner tonight, tamales!
Thanks for telling me where to find them. I used to go to a place in Pacoima, "Soto's", where Johnny Flores would go.
Soto's has been gone for years, so now I know where I can find the good stuff. :OhYes:
Rick, you won't be sorry.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:46
by Rick Farris
Randyman wrote:
bennie wrote:
Randyman wrote:I mentioned a few weeks ago that my daughter Meranda had won tickets to the Marquez v Katsidis fight on the 27th of last month, via a contest on Twitter. Golden Boy Promotions gave her the VIP treatment. A limo picked up my daughter and her gal pals as well as the husband of one of her friends, from their hotel rooms. They were given good seats, and my daughter got to spend some time with Oscar and attend the post fight press conference. They all had a great time. These are a few of the photos she took.

Image
Meranda De La O and Oscar De La Hoya

Image
Larry Merchant and that looks like Lou DiBella with him

Image
Marquez and Katsidis

Image
After the fight

Image
Juan Manuel Marquez at the post fight press conference

Image
My daughter Meranda (center) with her two friends

Nice photos. Your daughter has style, Randy.
Thank you Bennie, she is almost single handedly responsible for my gray hair and wrinkles.

Last weekend I was telling Rick, that my kids thought I walked on water, when they were young. One night back in the early 90's we had lot of company over to watch a fight, I don't remember who was fighting but it was probably Mike Tyson, considering the question Meranda asked. My daughter looked me straight in the eye and asked me "Dad, can you take Mike Tyson?". Suddenly the room went so quiet you would have thought E.F. Hutton was speaking. Every single person in that room was just waiting to see how I was going to answer that question.

That might seem like an easy question to answer but I have to admit I was as proud and as full of sh*t as the next guy back then. How could I tell my daughter, who thought I could lick anyone in the world I couldn't take Mike Tyson? How could I lie in front of everyone in the room, they would have died on the spot from laughter and disbelief. All I could muster was a weak and sheepish "Well, honey, Tyson is a heavyweight". Nobody in the room could call me a liar and I didn't exactly tell my daughter no. There were few snickers but I could live with that. Then my daughter looked at me and said "Oh, You know you can take him, you're just being humble and don't want to say anything". I don't think anyone in the house wanted to see my daughter let down. They let me off the hook. :oops:

I don't think she still believes I could take Mike Tyson but she treats me good.
Randy, I love that story! I recall our conversation at the Hockey game about Meranda being at the MGM Grand for the Marquez fight. Thank's for posting her great photos.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 13:57
by Panzerfaust
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Frank yesterday Randy and you were talking about Juanito's,and how they got started in the 1950s, well in Vegas we didn't start getting the more authentic Mexican food until about 20 years ago, sure we had plenty of Mexican restaurants 50 years ago like Macayo's and Ricardos but they are more Americanized, but now with the big Mexican population we now have we have plenty of the authentic Taco shops, which I frequent.
Just don't go to "Taco Bell" and call it "authentic Mexican" food.... :lol: :OhYes:
I love Mexican food and great tamales are my favorite.
For the past two days you guys have been posting photos of tamales, and writing about them.
I just told Monica that I'm driving to ELA to pick up our dinner tonight, tamales!
Thanks for telling me where to find them. I used to go to a place in Pacoima, "Soto's", where Johnny Flores would go.
Soto's has been gone for years, so now I know where I can find the good stuff. :OhYes:
Im not going near any of that mexican food again :shame:
I still CRAVE menudo , so going through all that again would be to frustrating :witzend:
Havent found any good mexican here yet :(

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 14:21
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote: Just don't go to "Taco Bell" and call it "authentic Mexican" food.... :lol: :OhYes:
I love Mexican food and great tamales are my favorite.
For the past two days you guys have been posting photos of tamales, and writing about them.
I just told Monica that I'm driving to ELA to pick up our dinner tonight, tamales!
Thanks for telling me where to find them. I used to go to a place in Pacoima, "Soto's", where Johnny Flores would go.
Soto's has been gone for years, so now I know where I can find the good stuff. :OhYes:
Rick, you won't be sorry.
:TU: :TU: :TU: :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 15:40
by kikibalt
De La Hoya on Mosley Leaving: "It's a Slap in The Face!"
By Robert Morales/Boxing Scene

The President of Golden Boy Promotions, Oscar De La Hoya, is not happy with Shane Mosley at the moment. Mosley was promoted by Golden Boy for five years, but recently announced he was a free agent and could fight for the promoter of his choosing. The way De La Hoya sees it, he made Mosley millions of dollars and he's upset Mosley walked.

"I feel hurt by it," De La Hoya told BS.com. "I mean, obviously, I don't really let my personal feelings get in the way of the job we have to do. We want to do the best job possible for the fighters. When fighters do things like that, it hurts. It's sad because they don't realize what we've accomplished for them. There's a lot of work and you put a lot of energy into it and then you get slapped in the face."

Efforts to reach Mosley were unsuccessful. But the thinking in the industry is he left Golden Boy - in which he apparently still holds stock - to get the fight with WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao. Since there is ongoing animosity between Golden Boy and Top Rank, who promote Pacquiao, Mosley's chances of fighting Pacquiao are considerably greater if Golden Boy is not involved.

De La Hoya's company is pushing very hard to get Juan Manuel Marquez a third fight with Pacquiao, but Bob Arum, CEO for Top Rank, says Mosley is the likely candidate to land the fight. Arum believes Mosley is a more marketable opponent than Marquez.

"I think Mosley is more marketable, but that's my opinion," Arum said to BS. "I think Mosley is someone who even non-boxing fans know. Everyone knows Shane Mosley."

Mosley's recent run has been far from spectacular. In his past two fights, he was dominated by Mayweather on May 1, and he did not look terrific in a draw with light-hitting Sergio Mora on a September 18.

The fight with Mora, which took place at Staples Center, also featured rising Mexican star Saul "Canelo" Alvarez. The event drew 13,591, but De La Hoya said most of those fans were there to see Alvarez. De La Hoya calls Arum's logic of Mosley "being more marketable" as an excuse to avoid a third fight with Marquez.

"This is my take on Bob Arum saying that Mosley has more of a household name," De La Hoya said. "Mosley's last pay-per-view in September, I think he drew about a thousand people and `Canelo' drew about 10,000 people. And I think `Canelo' drew probably 95 percent of the pay-per-view.

"So Bob Arum is saying, `Well, Mosley's a more credible opponent because he's more marketable.' That's not true, that's not true at all. Marquez is the fighter who everybody knows and who everybody wants to see against Pacquiao."

While Arum appears high on Mosley at the moment, he was far from impressed when Mosley fought to a draw with Mora in September. In fact, on this very website, Arum downplayed Mosley's marketability as a future Pacquiao opponent.

“Look, he’s going to be 40 and he’s in the lighter weights where speed is so important. He’s on a show with guys old enough to be his son. I read them saying Mosley was huffing and puffing for air in the fourth or fifth round,” stated Arum. “To me, that is the real tipoff for an aging fighter. Even Big George Foreman did that in his 40s but he always had that big, big punch like in the (Michael) Moorer fight."

“It’s like Hopkins, he still knows how to fight but who wants to pay to see him now? His fights are not very scintillating. What you see with Hopkins we’re beginning to see with Mosley. I guess Shane needs the money due to his matrimonial situation. I’ve always considered Shane to be a nice guy but this is what happens to fighters when they age."

Robert Morales covers boxing for the Los Angeles Daily News, Long Beach Press-Telegram and BS.com

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 16:15
by Rick Farris
Panzerfaust wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote: Just don't go to "Taco Bell" and call it "authentic Mexican" food.... :lol: :OhYes:
I love Mexican food and great tamales are my favorite.
For the past two days you guys have been posting photos of tamales, and writing about them.
I just told Monica that I'm driving to ELA to pick up our dinner tonight, tamales!
Thanks for telling me where to find them. I used to go to a place in Pacoima, "Soto's", where Johnny Flores would go.
Soto's has been gone for years, so now I know where I can find the good stuff. :OhYes:
Im not going near any of that mexican food again :shame:
I still CRAVE menudo , so going through all that again would be to frustrating :witzend:
Havent found any good mexican here yet :(
Remy, don't eat Mexican food in Norway. Wait until you're back here, and we'll get you to ELA this time. :OhYes:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 04 Dec 2010, 16:17
by telboy66
Loyalty has never been a big part of pro boxing from boxers/ mangers/promoters who will drop each other at the sound of a ring bell, It only surprises me that either party feels the need to comment on it . Managers & promoters will off load a boxer when his high earning days are over so whats different about a guy coming to the end looking for the last big cheque that his team can't secure. alls fair in love war & boxing