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Randy, no doubt in my mind or anybody on this thread that this fight took place, it is not like you are making some outlandish claim ala Granberry, you simply want credit for a fight that took place.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Randy, no doubt in the mind of anybody on this thread that this fight took place, it is not like you are making some outlandish claim ala Granberry, you simply want credit for a fight that took place.

That's exactly it Paulie, no more, no less. Just credit for a fight that took place.

Thanks

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

Randyman wrote:Do you guys remember Crime Story with Dennis Farina? It was set in the early 1960's.

Crime Story Opening Theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7U2rXyjZTI

Randy, they used to film this show about a block from where my parents and I were living, we lived on 9th about a block from Fremont street and I would walk over to see if I could see anyone but all I remember were the old cars and they would wet the street down for the filming , I would say that was about 1986, I might be wrong because I didn't watch the show very much but I thought it was only filmed here in Vegas.

reposting this.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

Randyman wrote:Do you guys remember Crime Story with Dennis Farina? It was set in the early 1960's.

Crime Story Opening Theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7U2rXyjZTI

Randy, they used to film this show about a block from where my parents and I were living, we lived on 9th about a block from Fremont street and I would walk over to see if I could see anyone but all I remember were the old cars and they would wet the street down for the filming , I would say that was about 1986, I might be wrong because I didn't watch the show very much but I thought it was only filmed here in Vegas.

reposting this.

The first season was filmed in New York, the second was in las Vegas. I think it only lasted two seasons. It was one of the best cop shows on TV. It was a gritty cop show. The music was great too.

Panzerfaust wrote:Manuel Ortiz vs Theo Medina:http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=51557

Manuel Ortiz vs Jackie Peterson : http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=26663

Thanks Remy!

Randyman wrote:Posted this Letter today in the hope of getting my second fight listed in the official records. Any and all support from you guys would be appreciated. I just want that fight accounted for.
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=130731

To the Boxrec.com Administrators

I am making a formal petition to have my fight with Eduardo Barba entered into the BoxRec records. I am asking that the entry be based solely on my word of honor and my conduct on the boxing forums on this site, most specifically the “Classic American West Coast Boxing” thread to which I am a contributing member. I have 100% faith that the members will support my claim.

The fight in question is a 6 round welterweight bout at The Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada that was won by Eduardo Barba on 10/30/1976. Our fight was the opening bout in a card that included Duane Bobick vs. Fred Houpe and Mike Quarry vs. Tom Bethea. The referee for my fight was Joey Giambra. My manager/trainer was Mel Epstein., a second man worked the corner but I no longer remember his name.

The fight was officially listed as a welterweight (147) bout but both Barba and I were a couple of pounds over the limit. The fight was a closely fought contest won by unanimous decision by Barba. I cannot recall the actual scores.

My only other fight, a welterweight bout with Ignacio “Nacho” Cota is already entered in the records and I make no other claims to any other fights or contest, professional or otherwise, in boxing.

http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=20236

My Global ID is: 487870

Thank You

Randy De La O

Attention Boxrec:

Randy, this needs to be corrected.
The fight took place. What do they need here?
There are Hall of Fame reps on this thread who are aware of the fight, and of the slight by Boxrec (although not deliberate).
In the best interest of historic accuracy and fairness I'd like to petition Boxrec to correct an inaccurate record for Randy De La O, my former stablemate under manager Mel Epstein.
I wonder if Rob could assist us in this effort, or Chuck Johnston?

Randyman wrote:

Panzerfaust wrote:Manuel Ortiz vs Theo Medina:http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=51557

Manuel Ortiz vs Jackie Peterson : http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=26663

Thanks Remy!

Ditto, Remy.
Of those I know who have seen Ortiz, Olivares, and Jofre up close, all agree that Manuel Ortiz was the best bantamweight ever.
That says a lot to me, as I've seen the other two and they were both brilliant.

Mark Sanchez

Thanks Hammer & Randy on your views of Ali. We are all gentlemen here and that is foremost. Never have I seen a word of unkindness towards an individual here, but I am a late comer and might have missed something. Rating boxers can bring on a slew of point of views, everyone here gets a chance to state their opinions, and certainly friends can bicker or disagree over the finer points being made. Respecting ones view is always what I saw
in this room. (I saw other threads that are shameful to say the least).
I am glad to be apart of this thread.

Well the Jets game is over and I must admit I was thrown for a huge loss on the very first set of plays in the game. I went through all of my smelling salts in the first quarter. Please feel free to use any football cliche that you wish to say about the Jets. Or the Patriots. The Patriots came to play hardball tonight and exposed the Jets for who they might be.
I certainly hope not. At 9-3 we are not out of it by no means , but tough lessons were learned tonight. I hope. Miami at NY Sunday. Getting up off the canvas right now and the lights went out early tonight. Back in training tommorrow for next week.
One thing though-if you watched the ESPN game- can Jaworski,Gruden and that other guy get any further up Belichecks & Brady's arse. Sinful announcing.

Randy- I will ask Matt Tegen in regards to your assertion that you had a bout which isn't listed on your record.

- Chuck Johnston

Randyman wrote:Posted this Letter today in the hope of getting my second fight listed in the official records. Any and all support from you guys would be appreciated. I just want that fight accounted for.
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=130731

To the Boxrec.com Administrators

I am making a formal petition to have my fight with Eduardo Barba entered into the BoxRec records. I am asking that the entry be based solely on my word of honor and my conduct on the boxing forums on this site, most specifically the “Classic American West Coast Boxing” thread to which I am a contributing member. I have 100% faith that the members will support my claim.

The fight in question is a 6 round welterweight bout at The Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada that was won by Eduardo Barba on 10/30/1976. Our fight was the opening bout in a card that included Duane Bobick vs. Fred Houpe and Mike Quarry vs. Tom Bethea. The referee for my fight was Joey Giambra. My manager/trainer was Mel Epstein., a second man worked the corner but I no longer remember his name.

The fight was officially listed as a welterweight (147) bout but both Barba and I were a couple of pounds over the limit. The fight was a closely fought contest won by unanimous decision by Barba. I cannot recall the actual scores.

My only other fight, a welterweight bout with Ignacio “Nacho” Cota is already entered in the records and I make no other claims to any other fights or contest, professional or otherwise, in boxing.

http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=20236

My Global ID is: 487870

Thank You

Randy De La O

Good letter, Randy.

Paul, where is you? the coffee is ready.....
3:42AM

kikibalt wrote:Paul, where is you? the coffee is ready.....
3:42AM

Good morning, Frank. I'm on my first cup.

Former English champion Scott Lawton has announced his retirement following his defeat to Dewsbury's Gary Sykes in Prizefighter last month. The 34-year-old Lawton dropped a unanimous decision to Sykes, the reigning British super-featherweight champion, and decided enough was enough, in the wake of a crushing European title defeat earlier this year.
Lawton reached an ABA final before turning pro in 2001 and reeling off the wins. By 2007, he could not be ignored and he secured two attempts at the British lightweight title against Jon Thaxton and John Murray respectively but was stopped both times, and he was also stopped by Amir Khan in a crack at the Commonwealth lightweight title.
However, Lawton then made an audacious drop down to super-featherweight and pulled off a career-best victory over Liverpool's Derry Matthews in seven rounds to secure that shot at the European super-featherweight title in his home city of Stoke in February, but his height and reach and stylish boxing skills were not enough to hold off a rampaging Leva Kirakosyan.
Lack of power cost Scott at championship level, and he had a tendency to bust up, but domestically, he was sharp and clever, winning the English lightweight title with a nine-round stoppage of an in-form Martin Gethin in 2008 and scoring other solid wins over Peter McDonagh, Stefy Bull, Roger Sampson and Youssef Al Hamidi as he built up a huge fan-base in and around the Potteries and a career record of 27-7-1 (6).
It was not to be for the likeable Lawton, but he leaves the sport with all his faculties and with his eye very much on the future. "I want to channel all my energy into training boxers and bringing more belts back to Stoke," Scott told The Sentinel newspaper.

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Paul, where is you? the coffee is ready.....
3:42AM

Good morning, Frank. I'm on my first cup.

Morning Rick,I had two and Connie is working on her first one....

bennie wrote:Former English champion Scott Lawton has announced his retirement following his defeat to Dewsbury's Gary Sykes in Prizefighter last month. The 34-year-old Lawton dropped a unanimous decision to Sykes, the reigning British super-featherweight champion, and decided enough was enough, in the wake of a crushing European title defeat earlier this year.
Lawton reached an ABA final before turning pro in 2001 and reeling off the wins. By 2007, he could not be ignored and he secured two attempts at the British lightweight title against Jon Thaxton and John Murray respectively but was stopped both times, and he was also stopped by Amir Khan in a crack at the Commonwealth lightweight title.
However, Lawton then made an audacious drop down to super-featherweight and pulled off a career-best victory over Liverpool's Derry Matthews in seven rounds to secure that shot at the European super-featherweight title in his home city of Stoke in February, but his height and reach and stylish boxing skills were not enough to hold off a rampaging Leva Kirakosyan.
Lack of power cost Scott at championship level, and he had a tendency to bust up, but domestically, he was sharp and clever, winning the English lightweight title with a nine-round stoppage of an in-form Martin Gethin in 2008 and scoring other solid wins over Peter McDonagh, Stefy Bull, Roger Sampson and Youssef Al Hamidi as he built up a huge fan-base in and around the Potteries and a career record of 27-7-1 (6).
It was not to be for the likeable Lawton, but he leaves the sport with all his faculties and with his eye very much on the future. "I want to channel all my energy into training boxers and bringing more belts back to Stoke," Scott told The Sentinel newspaper.

Lawton may now have unretired.

Randy, I tried to send an e-mail to Matt Tegen about the missing bout on your record, but was able to do so. It could be that Matt has changed his e-mail address.

- Chuck Johnston

Frankie, Tony and I will be at the GSBA meeting at the Dunes in Hollywood today.

Rick Farris wrote:

Randyman wrote:Posted this Letter today in the hope of getting my second fight listed in the official records. Any and all support from you guys would be appreciated. I just want that fight accounted for.
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=130731

To the Boxrec.com Administrators

I am making a formal petition to have my fight with Eduardo Barba entered into the BoxRec records. I am asking that the entry be based solely on my word of honor and my conduct on the boxing forums on this site, most specifically the “Classic American West Coast Boxing” thread to which I am a contributing member. I have 100% faith that the members will support my claim.

The fight in question is a 6 round welterweight bout at The Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada that was won by Eduardo Barba on 10/30/1976. Our fight was the opening bout in a card that included Duane Bobick vs. Fred Houpe and Mike Quarry vs. Tom Bethea. The referee for my fight was Joey Giambra. My manager/trainer was Mel Epstein., a second man worked the corner but I no longer remember his name.

The fight was officially listed as a welterweight (147) bout but both Barba and I were a couple of pounds over the limit. The fight was a closely fought contest won by unanimous decision by Barba. I cannot recall the actual scores.

My only other fight, a welterweight bout with Ignacio “Nacho” Cota is already entered in the records and I make no other claims to any other fights or contest, professional or otherwise, in boxing.

http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=20236

My Global ID is: 487870

Thank You

Randy De La O

Attention Boxrec:

Randy, this needs to be corrected.
The fight took place. What do they need here?
There are Hall of Fame reps on this thread who are aware of the fight, and of the slight by Boxrec (although not deliberate).
In the best interest of historic accuracy and fairness I'd like to petition Boxrec to correct an inaccurate record for Randy De La O, my former stablemate under manager Mel Epstein.
I wonder if Rob could assist us in this effort, or Chuck Johnston?

I got involved in something with them dealing with an old timer. My understanding is that they need some kind of verification. Maybe HAMMER could help Randy out and get a clipping of the fight from the Las Vegas newspaper. That should suffice. The Library at UNLV has all the Las Vegas newspapers on microfilm.

I would think the Nevada Commission might have a record on it too.
If the ref and officials were paid for the bout, the payroll dept should have the record. It would help if you can get the names of the officials that worked and if they are alive, they can testify to it too.

The year 1976 is not long ago, the Ring Book or Ring Magazine might have the undercard results as well. Also, can Barba be contacted to confirm also.?

Randy, I had a fight that was not listed by Boxrec. The error was corrected and reflects a 6th Rd. TKO win of a match I had on a card in National City. I had nothing to do with the change, although I do posess a poster with the match listed. The person who investigated the match was our friend Bruce in Nothern California. This was a ten rounder, originally scheduled for eight rounds. I never saw any newspaper coverage so I'm not sure how he was able to validate the match?

kikibalt wrote:Frankie, Tony and I will be at the GSBA meeting at the Dunes in Hollywood today.

Small crowd at the GSBA meeting today, there was about 12 people, the usual suspects, nonetheless we had a good time. Next Tuesday the Xmas luncheon will be held at the Dunes, 11:00AM, a good size crowd is expect as the food will be on the GSBA......

The GSBA is taking over the whole restaurant for the luncheon.....

kikibalt wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Frankie, Tony and I will be at the GSBA meeting at the Dunes in Hollywood today.

Small crowd at the GSBA meeting today, there was about 12 people, the usual suspects, nonetheless we had a good time. Next Tuesday the Xmas luncheon will be held at the Dunes, 11:00AM, a good size crowd is expect as the food will be on the GSBA......

Wish I could be there, Frank. I may be able to work it out?
Will Tony still be in town?

"Greater fighters than I have lost." -Mike Tyson . . . after being KO'ed by Buster Douglas.

Charlie Norkus thoughts on a young Tyson? . . .

Charlie, your father was a top ten heavyweight. He was also a New York guy, and involved with boxing long after his career ended.
I'm curious what his thoughts were on Mike Tyson?
I can't think of anybody's opinion that could be more qualified than your dad's.
I'm referring to Mike in the early days, before the death of Jimmy Jacobs, not the Mike after Spinks.
I was a big Tyson fan. And I was sadly disappointed watching a great potential waste away.
I believe what seperated Mike Tyson from greatness was charactor.
In my opinion, it was charactor and courage that made Muhammad Ali great, not his ring skills, which really did not impress me.