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Rick Farris wrote:Watching "True Grit" (1969} with John Wayne and Kim Darby on TMC...... -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I knew Kim Darby very well, she was CRAZY!!! I mean CRAZZZZZY!

Kim Darby. I remember she got all those rave reviews following True Grit, and then her movie career died out rather quickly, although you would see her occasionally as a guest star in TV shows . . . Is she still around Hollywood these days?

Hey guys, Jeri and I became grandparents again last night for the seventh time. Brand new granddaughter, 5,5 lbs 19 inches, named Kendra. DD

Randy

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:
And (for the most part) ONE champion for each of those eight divisions. Ah, the 50s: When men were men, and women were women, and champions were undisputed . . .

When women wanted to be women......

And men wanted to be men . . . (Can you imagine anybody in the 50s encouraging a man to explore his "feminine side" or to get in touch with his "inner feelings?" )

Randyman wrote:Hey guys, Jeri and I became grandparents again last night for the seventh time. Brand new granddaughter, 5,5 lbs 19 inches, named Kendra. DD

Randy

CONGRATULATIONS RANDY!

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Watching "True Grit" (1969} with John Wayne and Kim Darby on TMC......

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I knew Kim Darby very well, she was CRAZY!!! I mean CRAZZZZZY!

Kim Darby. I remember she got all those rave reviews following True Grit, and then her movie career died out rather quickly, although you would see her occasionally as a guest star in TV shows . . . Is she still around Hollywood these days?[/quote]

I think, later on in her career she became typecast as someone with a dark side, usually a jealous or insecure woman. Haven't seen her in anything in years. I remember her in Rich Man, Poor Man. I think that was the beginning of her typecasting.

raylawpc wrote:

Randyman wrote:Hey guys, Jeri and I became grandparents again last night for the seventh time. Brand new granddaughter, 5,5 lbs 19 inches, named Kendra. DD

Randy

CONGRATULATIONS RANDY!

Thanks Tom

Randyman wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Watching "True Grit" (1969} with John Wayne and Kim Darby on TMC...... -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I knew Kim Darby very well, she was CRAZY!!! I mean CRAZZZZZY!

Kim Darby. I remember she got all those rave reviews following True Grit, and then her movie career died out rather quickly, although you would see her occasionally as a guest star in TV shows . . . Is she still around Hollywood these days?

I think, later on in her career she became typecast as someone with a dark side, usually a jealous or insecure woman. Haven't seen her in anything in years. I remember her in Rich Man, Poor Man. I think that was the beginning of her typecasting.

I remember her more from the 1970s when she was a guest star on shows like Fantasy Island, The Love Boat, Trapper John M.D. etc. I haven't recognized her on anything in years.

raylawpc wrote:

CNorkusJr wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

On this Hollywood Legion card you see that Joe Chavez is fighting a six rounder, this is the same Joe Chavez that you see working as a cut man in many of today's big fights.

If you look in a small box above the names, the card tells you the weight classes and the assoc weight minimum/maximum.

3 months ago I attended a local card here on Long Island. Five guys in the row in front of me got into it (no punches) argueing over what the various weight limits that are out there today. They argued for two whole fights on the card and still didnt have it settled after.
It got to the point where it had me thinking about the limits for divisions like cruiserweight and Lt Heavyweight myself. Super-middleweight they couldnt even come close.
8 divisions-either your in or your out- those were the days.

And (for the most part) ONE champion for each of those eight divisions. Ah, the 50s: When men were men, and women were women, and champions were undisputed . . .

Those were the days, my friend.......

raylawpc wrote:

Randyman wrote:

raylawpc wrote: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I knew Kim Darby very well, she was CRAZY!!! I mean CRAZZZZZY!

Kim Darby. I remember she got all those rave reviews following True Grit, and then her movie career died out rather quickly, although you would see her occasionally as a guest star in TV shows . . . Is she still around Hollywood these days?

I think, later on in her career she became typecast as someone with a dark side, usually a jealous or insecure woman. Haven't seen her in anything in years. I remember her in Rich Man, Poor Man. I think that was the beginning of her typecasting.

I remember her more from the 1970s when he was a guest star on shows like Fantasy Island, The Love Boat, Trapper John M.D. etc.[/quote]

I remember her in those in well. She did keep active. She was a good working actress for a number of years, then she just went off the radar.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:
And (for the most part) ONE champion for each of those eight divisions. Ah, the 50s: When men were men, and women were women, and champions were undisputed . . .

When women wanted to be women......

And men wanted to be men . . . (Can you imagine anybody in the 50s encouraging a man to explore his "feminine side" or to get in touch with his "inner feelings?" )

Once upon a time, all a man needed was a good cigar and a bourbon to satisfy his inner self, that and a woman that kept her mouth shut!

I'm leaving in a few minutes to pick up three dozen tamales from Juanito's.

Randy

Randyman wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

Randyman wrote: I think, later on in her career she became typecast as someone with a dark side, usually a jealous or insecure woman. Haven't seen her in anything in years. I remember her in Rich Man, Poor Man. I think that was the beginning of her typecasting.

I remember her more from the 1970s when he was a guest star on shows like Fantasy Island, The Love Boat, Trapper John M.D. etc.

I remember her in those in well. She did keep active. She was a good working actress for a number of years, then she just went off the radar.

It was weird that she really did nothing major after True Grit.

raylawpc wrote:

Randyman wrote:

raylawpc wrote: I remember her more from the 1970s when he was a guest star on shows like Fantasy Island, The Love Boat, Trapper John M.D. etc.

I remember her in those in well. She did keep active. She was a good working actress for a number of years, then she just went off the radar.

It was weird that she really did nothing major after True Grit.

Without sounding cruel, I always saw her as a female version of Anthony Perkins, there seemed to be something wrong with him in any role he played. Kim Darby gave me that type of feeling-there's something wrong with her. But I could be completely off base on that. What do I know?

Randyman wrote:I'm leaving in a few minutes to pick up three dozen tamales from Juanito's.

Randy

I'm picking 4 dozens tomorrow at 10:00 AM

Randyman wrote:Hey guys, Jeri and I became grandparents again last night for the seventh time. Brand new granddaughter, 5,5 lbs 19 inches, named Kendra. DD

Randy

Congrats guys. You guys are catching up to us.....

Los Angeles City Hall Cross

Congrats Randy

Randyman wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

Randyman wrote: I remember her in those in well. She did keep active. She was a good working actress for a number of years, then she just went off the radar.

It was weird that she really did nothing major after True Grit.

Without sounding cruel, I always saw her as a female version of Anthony Perkins, there seemed to be something wrong with him in any role he played. Kim Darby gave me that type of feeling-there's something wrong with her. But I could be completely off base on that. What do I know?

Well, Rick did say "she was CRAZY!!! I mean CRAZZZZZY!"

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:
And (for the most part) ONE champion for each of those eight divisions. Ah, the 50s: When men were men, and women were women, and champions were undisputed . . .

When women wanted to be women...... :Oh Yes:

And men wanted to be men . . . (Can you imagine anybody in the 50s encouraging a man to explore his "feminine side" or to get in touch with his "inner feelings?" )

I think Liberace & Rock Hudson might have given you an argument on that one & maybe Emil Griffiths

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:
And (for the most part) ONE champion for each of those eight divisions. Ah, the 50s: When men were men, and women were women, and champions were undisputed . . .

When women wanted to be women......

And men wanted to be men . . . (Can you imagine anybody in the 50s encouraging a man to explore his "feminine side" or to get in touch with his "inner feelings?" )

1961 Otto Preminger's "Advise and Consent" touches on the closet thing a bit.
The poor guy had to travel by plane to come to New York to find out his inner most feelings.
See what you get when you leave a paper trail behind. Senator.
I'll leave it to you guys to find out the meaning of the above.

telboy66 wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote: When women wanted to be women...... :Oh Yes:

And men wanted to be men . . . (Can you imagine anybody in the 50s encouraging a man to explore his "feminine side" or to get in touch with his "inner feelings?" )

I think Liberace & Rock Hudson might have given you an argument on that one & maybe Emil Griffiths

I met Emile Griffith for the first time at NY Golden Gloves finals in Garden in mid 1970's.
He was very flambouyant in the way he dressed. Looked like Gold Lame suit bedecked by a large ring on every finger. (Closest thing to brass knuckles I ever saw).
When my dad introduced me to him, he was very kind then as he is now. But he liked to hold onto the handshake grip way past its time I thought.

I was a fireman in midtown ( around 1990 ?), when I heard about him getting beat up by a group of men outside a gay bar located just a few blocks away from my firehouse.
I was off that evening, and the firemen did not respond to the incident. However Police Officers and ambulance personnel who did respond would stop by our firehouse often.
They said he was beaten pretty bad. I think broken ribs and concussion,maybe worse.

Nowadays when you meet him- he is quite old- and for the past few years- you would never get that impression of him, I think the assault caused him to tone it down altogether.


I would like to add that The Emile Griffith story of today is a sad one. Emile lives with his either son or nephew or grandson (take your pick) in a 2 room apt. in a tough town on Long Island. Gangs dominate his area. He relies on his relative above to assist him. It is known that Emile's family (sisters, brothers, kids) have through the years relieved him of his once millions of dollars down in the islands (Emile never said "no" to his family's outstretched hands). Now they do not even acknowledge him because the well went dry.
Iran Barkley has a similar story. Broke. His sister who he argues with just threw him out of her home in the Bronx , New York. He lives in a one room apt provided by his local church (I believe) and his Ring Belt has been recently stolen from his room.
Not once has these two men asked for money for autographs or pictures with them.
They both still have their pride. Emile recently had his life story printed in book form.(Praising his fmily mind you )in the book.
Ring 8 gives them a small subsidy to help them get by each month.

I'm told by folks who know him that the guy who lives with Emile is not a family member, and their relationship is unclear even to those who know Emile well. But, whatever the nature of their relatrionship, the guy apparently is good to him, and keeps him clean, well-fed, and happy.

I'm told that poor Emile becomes very confused. At one recent boxing event, he apparently did not recognize Jose Napoles. At another, he reportedly became very angry with George Chuvalo because he thought George was stealing a .50 cent ballpoint pen from him. Fortunately, George kept his cool and was able to quickly defuse the situation.

Something I've heard recently is that Nino Benvenuti periodically sends money to somebody in the US to use for Emile's care. He does it without fanfare or publicity - if true, he's a classy guy in my book.

I also heard that he wanted to fight Nino at this past IBHOF.

Great Tamales I have Known……..

Jeri and I went to pick up our tamales today at Juanito’s in East L.A. It was chaotic and crowded and busy and I’m sure it will be even worse tomorrow. We had to wait an extra hour for the cheese and green chile tamales. We ordered a Champurrado, a hot thick drink made from masa and Mexican chocolate, and Bunelos, a flat crispy tortilla like desert topped with sugar and cinnamon. Both are very delicious and traditional. While we were waiting some guy came in to pick up his order, several dozen. The manager told him “I’m sorry but we gave your order away”, the guy seemed irritated but he agreed to come back later in the day, after being assured by the manager or owner that his order would be ready. Of course he said okay, the tamales are that good. The confusion is understandable because there was a constant flow of customers and they all wanted their tamales. It was better to humble yourself, bite your tongue and wait, rather than lose out on the tamales. We were there a few weeks earlier on the recommendation of Frank Baltazar Sr. and had already tried the tamales so we knew they were worth waiting for.

On the way home Jeri and I got to talking about all the great tamales we’ve had over the years from places that have either disappeared or changed hands. For years we have gone to Mary’s Mexican Deli on Whittier Blvd in Whittier for menudo and tamales, in fact I went there with my father when I was a young boy. A few years back the owner retired and someone else took over and it is no longer the same. They were at one time on par with Juanito’s but no more.

Another place was Yaqui’s in Santa Fe Springs, great tamales, in fact all their food was good and they made some really good salsa, hot just the way I like it. They too are a thing of the past.

La Pinata’s in Montebello is still in business and I still enjoy their food, especially the tamales. They fall just under Juanito’s and that’s no insult considering how good Juanito’s tamales are. Of course that’s subject to opinion. Their menudo is outstanding as well.

In 2003 Jeri and I were walking out of the market and heading for the truck when some guy standing next to a van said something to me in Spanish. I don’t speak Spanish so I looked at Jeri and she said “He selling tamales” “I’m not buying tamales from some guy in a van, let’s go” I said. He said something else to me and Jeri tells me “you can sample a few for free”. “Free?” says I. I looked at the van, a newer model, it was clean, and had the name of the business painted on the side. I looked at the guy, he seemed business like so I said “Free huh?” As it turns out I bought about four dozen tamales from him, red with pork, red with beef, green chile and cheese and whatever else he had. I prayed there wasn’t a Chihuahua in the bunch. These were tamales from Heaven. The corn husk was fresh and not dried. They were different than any tamale I have ever tasted. We got their card. The great thing about it was that they delivered. Couldn’t beat that.
Later that year, when we gave my son Andrew a going away party when he was leaving for the Coast Guard, I ordered a couple of hundred for the party. One day we called and the number was no longer in service. I don’t think I ever got over it. That as they say, was that.

About 1996, Jeri and I and the kids decided we were going to try to make our own tamales, with red chile with pork. We did a respectable job considering it was our first time. We gave some to our neighbors and they swore they were the best tamales they had ever tasted. I don’t know if they were being kind or if they were telling the truth but we thought they were good.

The worst tamales that I have ever had? I used to say to anyone and everyone that ”I never met a tamale I didn’t like”. I can’t say that anymore.

In 2003, Ed Hernandez and I were at work, finishing up our lunch, when some guy that I had never seen before walks up to us and says “Do you guys like tamales?” “Do we like tamales? Do birds fly?” Well“, he says “my son is a professional chef and he makes tamales. I’m taking orders”. He sounded so proud of his son. He gave us a list of the types of tamales his son made. He made them sound so good. I ordered four dozen at 60 bucks. Ed ordered three dozen, one for him and one each for his sons.

They came just before Christmas. I took them home and Jeri steamed them and put them on the plate. There are no words to describe just how horrible these tamales were. I’m still gagging. We threw them all in the trash. There are some things that a professional chef should never touch; a good burger, good fried chicken, burritos of any type and last but not least, tamales! I called Ed to see how his tamales were. He hadn’t tried his yet. I told him about mine. He didn’t sound too happy about it. When I talked to him later, he said he just tossed his tamales after we talked. A few months later the guy came around to see how we liked the tamales. Again, he was so proud of his son, I just didn’t have the heart to tell him. So I lied.