Classic American West Coast Boxing

[kikibalt]

Any big fights coming up, Bennie??....I don't know of one....

[bennie]

David Haye will make do with a mandatory defence of his WBA heavyweight title against Ruslan Chagaev in the next few months as Wladimir Klitschko defends his IBF and WBO titles against Londoner Derek Chisora in Germany on April 30.
Haye, a Londoner himself, was hoping for a quick unification showdown with Klitschko but the giant Ukrainian wants a tune up firstly, having picked up a back injury before Christmas. Klitschko will feast on someone like Chisora, who is unbeaten and holds the British heavyweight title but at just 14-0 (9), a pro barely three years, who is also way out of his depth.
Klitschko, 55-3 (49), does his usual thing as he picks off Chisora on the way to a stoppage win in the middle rounds.

[kikibalt]

David Haye will make do with a mandatory defence of his WBA heavyweight title against Ruslan Chagaev in the next few months as Wladimir Klitschko defends his IBF and WBO titles against Londoner Derek Chisora in Germany on April 30.
Haye, a Londoner himself, was hoping for a quick unification showdown with Klitschko but the giant Ukrainian wants a tune up firstly, having picked up a back injury before Christmas. Klitschko will feast on someone like Chisora, who is unbeaten and holds the British heavyweight title but at just 14-0 (9), a pro barely three years, who is also way out of his depth.
Klitschko, 55-3 (49), does his usual thing as he picks off Chisora on the way to a stoppage win in the middle rounds.

Not very appealing fights.....

[bennie]

You're not wrong, Frankie. Bring back 15-rounders, and all these novices would never be challenging for world titles.

[Panzerfaust]

A Stronger Fighter - Manuel Labor and Boxers . . .


When I was 19-years-old, my trainer Mel Epstein used to look at me and say-
"Your growing, but you need more strength, you need to do some hard work."
"I'm going to send you to work on a ranch in Montana for the summer. You'll comeback stronger!" Mel announced.

I told Mel he wasn't sending me anywhere.
I had a hot girlfriend and there was no way I was going to blow a perfect California summer with the perfect California blonde.
"I can work hard here, I can get a labor job and use the money, too."

So I went to work with a friend who was a Flores stablemate of mine years ago.
I installed irrigation pipes one day, then we picked them up the next day and took them somewhere else.
Then a buddy knew a guy who needed some laborers to dig into decomposed granite, picks and shovels for a ceptic tank at a mobile home park.
Then we picked up scrap at construction sites, carrying bags of concrete, etc.

Working at that made me much stronger, because unlike conventional weight training, you move into awkward postitions when you are swinging a pick, lifting a shovel, wrangling a bag of sand, or whatever.
In boxing you can get bent into a lot of strange positions, and this builds strength to deal with it.
You learn to lift properly, not a bar-bell, but something that creates a true working muscle.
When you are in close in the ring with mature pros, these guys are strong, and you can't let them bull you around.
You need to be able to pick the guy up and slam him to the ground, although that is something you would never do in a boxing match.
Still, if you are strong enough to do that, you'll be strong enough to over power, or prevent yourself from being over-powered.
Regardless of how slick you can box, you have to be strong when you need to be.

Mel was right, and had I gone to Montana I'd have come back stronger.
However, I'm glad I didn't go. That was one helluva summer!

Yep Rick. Your right about building strength.
Years ago I was a union construction laborer. Man I worked like a mule.Did everything. I liked it though and it did keep me in shape.
The only problem is, you gotta make sure your working with a good crew of guys who arent yahoos. I almost got killed a couple times. Once an insulation instaler dropped his knife about five stories and hit me in the neck. Thank God it hit on the handle side not the blade side or I would have been a shish kabob. Another time a guy was swinging an axe hitting a plaster wall to take it down on a demolition crew I was working on. The thing flew out of his hands.(the dude was missing a freakin thumb)and hit me right in the side.Again I caught the blunt side not the blade. Guys name was Sergio. I dont think I'll ever forget that guy.

I have been working as a manual labouror since sixteen ,shoeveruthing from shoveling out what the excavators cant reach ,wheelbarrowing out inzane amounts of clay etc, building stone walls by hand and laying down steel pipes, Imo its the best strenght training there is.As Rick states its functional strength, you work your whole body(and you get paid for working out.)

Ivemet a few ''yahoos'' as well , especially among the guys driving the machines, this one guy was pulling up a tree stubb while i was fixing a fence right next to it, one of the roots hit me in tthe arm so hard i couldent use it for a couple of daysif the root had hit me a few cm higher it woulda been a broken cranium at the least im sure, another time i was sitting in the excavators ''shoevel'' and he was lifting me up to secure a high power cable and the jackass made a sudden move and almost tipped me down into a ditch we were digging about 4 meters deep,that was the closest ive ever come to putting a beating on one of my co-workers

[kikibalt]

You're not wrong, Frankie. Bring back 15-rounders, and all these novices would never be challenging for world titles.

Agree...

[kikibalt]

A Stronger Fighter - Manuel Labor and Boxers . . .


When I was 19-years-old, my trainer Mel Epstein used to look at me and say-
"Your growing, but you need more strength, you need to do some hard work."
"I'm going to send you to work on a ranch in Montana for the summer. You'll comeback stronger!" Mel announced.

I told Mel he wasn't sending me anywhere.
I had a hot girlfriend and there was no way I was going to blow a perfect California summer with the perfect California blonde.
"I can work hard here, I can get a labor job and use the money, too."

So I went to work with a friend who was a Flores stablemate of mine years ago.
I installed irrigation pipes one day, then we picked them up the next day and took them somewhere else.
Then a buddy knew a guy who needed some laborers to dig into decomposed granite, picks and shovels for a ceptic tank at a mobile home park.
Then we picked up scrap at construction sites, carrying bags of concrete, etc.

Working at that made me much stronger, because unlike conventional weight training, you move into awkward postitions when you are swinging a pick, lifting a shovel, wrangling a bag of sand, or whatever.
In boxing you can get bent into a lot of strange positions, and this builds strength to deal with it.
You learn to lift properly, not a bar-bell, but something that creates a true working muscle.
When you are in close in the ring with mature pros, these guys are strong, and you can't let them bull you around.
You need to be able to pick the guy up and slam him to the ground, although that is something you would never do in a boxing match.
Still, if you are strong enough to do that, you'll be strong enough to over power, or prevent yourself from being over-powered.
Regardless of how slick you can box, you have to be strong when you need to be.

Mel was right, and had I gone to Montana I'd have come back stronger.
However, I'm glad I didn't go. That was one helluva summer!

Yep Rick. Your right about building strength.
Years ago I was a union construction laborer. Man I worked like a mule.Did everything. I liked it though and it did keep me in shape.
The only problem is, you gotta make sure your working with a good crew of guys who arent yahoos. I almost got killed a couple times. Once an insulation instaler dropped his knife about five stories and hit me in the neck. Thank God it hit on the handle side not the blade side or I would have been a shish kabob. Another time a guy was swinging an axe hitting a plaster wall to take it down on a demolition crew I was working on. The thing flew out of his hands.(the dude was missing a freakin thumb)and hit me right in the side.Again I caught the blunt side not the blade. Guys name was Sergio. I dont think I'll ever forget that guy.

I have been working as a manual labouror since sixteen ,shoeveruthing from shoveling out what the excavators cant reach ,wheelbarrowing out inzane amounts of clay etc, building stone walls by hand and laying down steel pipes, Imo its the best strenght training there is.As Rick states its functional strength, you work your whole body(and you get paid for working out.)

Ivemet a few ''yahoos'' as well , especially among the guys driving the machines, this one guy was pulling up a tree stubb while i was fixing a fence right next to it, one of the roots hit me in tthe arm so hard i couldent use it for a couple of daysif the root had hit me a few cm higher it woulda been a broken cranium at the least im sure, another time i was sitting in the excavators ''shoevel'' and he was lifting me up to secure a high power cable and the jackass made a sudden move and almost tipped me down into a ditch we were digging about 4 meters deep,that was the closest ive ever come to putting a beating on one of my co-workers

Ram, you need to read the Kept Man Manuel....

[kikibalt]

G'morning Paulie....

[THEHAMMER321]

Frank, how's the coffee ? , I'll join you for a cup,

[Panzerfaust]

im trying to get there Frank
I have however not performed a chore with success for the last 3 years so she has given up on getting me to do anything round the hous:OhYes:

One day i too shall become a kept man

[kikibalt]

Frank, how's the coffee ? , I'll join you for a cup,

It was great Paulie....had 3 cups, that's enough for the day...

[THEHAMMER321]

You know, I think a ''real kept man'' doesn't need a book to tell him how to operate, I am sure Frank never read one, it's instinctive.

[kikibalt]

im trying to get there Frank
I have however not performed a chore with success for the last 3 years so she has given up on getting me to do anything round the hous:OhYes:

One day i too shall become a kept man

You will get there Ram. Rick is making progress, he already has the bar thing down pat and Randy is working on it.
We get enough kept men and we will have to start a Kept Men Hall Of Fame....

[kikibalt]

You know, I think a ''real kept man'' doesn't need a book to tell him how to operate, I am sure Frank never read one, it's instinctive.

You're right Paul, never read the book....

[kikibalt]

Never a dull moment when Manny Lugo fought, I'm sure Rick and Randy have some stories on Manny...

Manuel Lugo

division welterweight
country United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States

won 28 (KO 1) + lost 21 (KO 6) + drawn 10 = 59
rounds boxed 362 KO% 1.69


1969-05-22 Les Vegas 6-4-1
Portland, Oregon, United States W PTS 10 10

1969-04-26 141 Rugene Parker 136½ 12-11-9
Civic Auditorium, San Jose, California, United States L PTS 8 8

1969-04-10 141 Ronnie Harris 143 16-0-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6

1969-03-05 141 Benito Juarez 142 37-31-6
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 6 6

1968-11-29 Roberto Oscar Amaya 12-5-0
San Jose, California, United States L PTS 10 10

1968-10-29 Bobby Jordan 5-2-0
Civic Auditorium, San Jose, California, United States L PTS 8 8

1968-09-30 141 Les Vegas 143 3-0-0
Portland, Oregon, United States W PTS 6 6

1968-09-14 138 Ulysses Botero 138 7-7-0
County Fairgrounds, Ventura, California, United States L PTS 10 10

1968-08-14 Bobby Jordan 141½ 4-2-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L SD 6 6

1968-07-31 143 Benito Juarez 142 33-28-4
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 5 5

1968-07-23 141½ Carlos Monnreal 142 12-7-3
Circle Arts Theater, San Diego, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1968-07-18 139 Jimmy Robertson 138 2-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4

1968-06-13 Jimmy Robertson
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1968-05-27 142 Bobby Jordan 146 4-1-0
Civic Auditorium, Stockton, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1968-05-14 Benny Colima 0-3-2
Circle Arts Theater, San Diego, California, United States W KO 4

1968-04-30 142 Benny Colima 145 0-3-1
Portland, Oregon, United States D PTS 6 6

1968-04-08 143 Bobby Brooks 142½ 1-2-0
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada W UD 6 6

1968-03-28 Pancho DeLeon 2-11-1
Seattle, Washington, United States W PTS 8 8

1968-03-15 140 Robert Carrillo 140 3-3-1
Circle Arts Theater, San Diego, California, United States W PTS 5 5

1968-02-29 138 Pajarito Corona 136 10-11-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4

1968-02-19 136 Ralph Ungbricht 139 5-0-0
Portland, Oregon, United States D PTS 6 6

1968-01-23 140 John Lujan 144 8-7-2
Selland Arena, Fresno, California, United States W MD 6 6

1967-11-20 Juanito Gonzalez
San Diego, California, United States L KO 9

1967-11-13 Brad Silas 24-11-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 6 6

1967-11-09 138 John Cromer 138 2-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1967-08-10 139½ Julian Tellez 145 7-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D TD 6 6

1967-07-28 138 Manuel Ramos 138¾
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1967-06-15 140½ Gary Carr 143 4-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1967-04-25 Fel Pedranza 17-7-3
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L PTS 10 10

1967-02-27 140 Javier Ayala 136 2-0-0
Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico L TKO 7 10

1967-01-30 Carlos Monnreal 6-5-1
Roaring Twenties Ballroom, Portland, Oregon, United States W UD 10 10

1966-12-21 136 Jose Claudio Adame 135 47-18-6
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States L TKO 6 10

1966-11-29 134 Larry Flores 137 14-10-3
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1966-10-06 137 Lovelle Franklin 135 17-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
Lugo's opponent reported as "Dave Reese" in the Los Angeles Times, a possible alias for Franklin.

1966-09-22 138 Gabriel Hernandez 135 5-10-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1966-09-15 135 Gabriel Hernandez 131 5-9-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 6 6

1966-08-31 137½ Manny Ramirez 136½ 16-1-2
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States W MD 10 10

1966-08-12 Fernando Trujillo 4-2-1
San Bernardino, California, United States D PTS 8 8

1966-07-21 137 Charley Harvey 137 5-5-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1966-06-21 137 Manny Ramirez 134½ 15-1-2
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States L SD 10 10

1966-05-27 139 Charley Harvey 136 5-4-2
Sports Arena, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5

1966-05-19 136½ Al Ramirez 141 2-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1966-05-13 Al Ramirez 2-3-0
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1966-05-02 Jeff Phillip Magnan 3-0-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1966-04-07 137 Jerry Stevens 134 10-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1966-04-02 Al Sandoval 7-5-0
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1966-03-19 Wayman Gray 13-4-0
San Diego, California, United States D TD 6

1966-02-10 134½ Jerry Stevens 134 9-4-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1965-12-30 136½ Manuel Ochoa 132 14-22-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D TD 1 6

1965-12-23 136 Manuel Ochoa 135 14-21-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5

1965-11-25 135¾ Willie Ray 136 8-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6

1965-10-14 135½ Willie Ray 134 7-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 1 6

1965-09-30 136¼ Johnny Quintella 136¾ 12-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1965-04-06 139 Willie Castillo 140½ 11-3-0
International Center Arena, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L KO 4 8

1965-03-09 139½ Kenji Ishida 142½ 1-6-2
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States W PTS 6 6

1965-02-23 135½ Lionel Rivera 133 21-12-5
Civic Auditorium, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States W PTS 6 6

1965-02-16 137¼ Takeshi Fuji 138½ 6-0-0
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L KO 3 10

1965-01-29 136 Candy Barnes 139
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 5 5

1965-01-26 Johnny Brooks 14-5-2
Hacienda Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 6 6

[kikibalt]

Pat Goossen

division light welterweight
country United States
won 2 (KO 1) + lost 2 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 4
rounds boxed 18 KO% 25


1972-10-09 150½ Joe Baker 150 4-2-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1967-07-27 135½ Julian Tellez 134 6-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6

1967-07-20 148½ Carlos Guzman 149½
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 4 6

1967-05-04 148 Julian Tellez 145½ 2-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4

[bennie]

I'm not sure if you guys have ever seen this from our own Danny Williams, the man who shocked Mike Tyson in the States in 2004, but it is an incredible win under the circumstances.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY

[kikibalt]

I'm not sure if you guys have ever seen this from our own Danny Williams, the man who shocked Mike Tyson in the States in 2004, but it is an incredible win under the circumstances.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY

Great comeback by Williams

I couldn't help but notice that the referee didn't clean Potter's gloves after the knock downs.

[THEHAMMER321]

I'm not sure if you guys have ever seen this from our own Danny Williams, the man who shocked Mike Tyson in the States in 2004, but it is an incredible win under the circumstances.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY

Bennie never saw the fight till now, thanks for posting.

[THEHAMMER321]

Never a dull moment when Manny Lugo fought, I'm sure Rick and Randy have some stories on Manny...

Manuel Lugo

division welterweight
country United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States

won 28 (KO 1) + lost 21 (KO 6) + drawn 10 = 59
rounds boxed 362 KO% 1.69


1969-05-22 Les Vegas 6-4-1
Portland, Oregon, United States W PTS 10 10

1969-04-26 141 Rugene Parker 136½ 12-11-9
Civic Auditorium, San Jose, California, United States L PTS 8 8

1969-04-10 141 Ronnie Harris 143 16-0-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6

1969-03-05 141 Benito Juarez 142 37-31-6
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 6 6

1968-11-29 Roberto Oscar Amaya 12-5-0
San Jose, California, United States L PTS 10 10

1968-10-29 Bobby Jordan 5-2-0
Civic Auditorium, San Jose, California, United States L PTS 8 8

1968-09-30 141 Les Vegas 143 3-0-0
Portland, Oregon, United States W PTS 6 6

1968-09-14 138 Ulysses Botero 138 7-7-0
County Fairgrounds, Ventura, California, United States L PTS 10 10

1968-08-14 Bobby Jordan 141½ 4-2-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L SD 6 6

1968-07-31 143 Benito Juarez 142 33-28-4
Silver Slipper, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 5 5

1968-07-23 141½ Carlos Monnreal 142 12-7-3
Circle Arts Theater, San Diego, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1968-07-18 139 Jimmy Robertson 138 2-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4

1968-06-13 Jimmy Robertson
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1968-05-27 142 Bobby Jordan 146 4-1-0
Civic Auditorium, Stockton, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1968-05-14 Benny Colima 0-3-2
Circle Arts Theater, San Diego, California, United States W KO 4

1968-04-30 142 Benny Colima 145 0-3-1
Portland, Oregon, United States D PTS 6 6

1968-04-08 143 Bobby Brooks 142½ 1-2-0
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada W UD 6 6

1968-03-28 Pancho DeLeon 2-11-1
Seattle, Washington, United States W PTS 8 8

1968-03-15 140 Robert Carrillo 140 3-3-1
Circle Arts Theater, San Diego, California, United States W PTS 5 5

1968-02-29 138 Pajarito Corona 136 10-11-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4

1968-02-19 136 Ralph Ungbricht 139 5-0-0
Portland, Oregon, United States D PTS 6 6

1968-01-23 140 John Lujan 144 8-7-2
Selland Arena, Fresno, California, United States W MD 6 6

1967-11-20 Juanito Gonzalez
San Diego, California, United States L KO 9

1967-11-13 Brad Silas 24-11-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 6 6

1967-11-09 138 John Cromer 138 2-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1967-08-10 139½ Julian Tellez 145 7-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D TD 6 6

1967-07-28 138 Manuel Ramos 138¾
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1967-06-15 140½ Gary Carr 143 4-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1967-04-25 Fel Pedranza 17-7-3
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L PTS 10 10

1967-02-27 140 Javier Ayala 136 2-0-0
Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico L TKO 7 10

1967-01-30 Carlos Monnreal 6-5-1
Roaring Twenties Ballroom, Portland, Oregon, United States W UD 10 10

1966-12-21 136 Jose Claudio Adame 135 47-18-6
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States L TKO 6 10

1966-11-29 134 Larry Flores 137 14-10-3
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1966-10-06 137 Lovelle Franklin 135 17-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
Lugo's opponent reported as "Dave Reese" in the Los Angeles Times, a possible alias for Franklin.

1966-09-22 138 Gabriel Hernandez 135 5-10-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1966-09-15 135 Gabriel Hernandez 131 5-9-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 6 6

1966-08-31 137½ Manny Ramirez 136½ 16-1-2
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States W MD 10 10

1966-08-12 Fernando Trujillo 4-2-1
San Bernardino, California, United States D PTS 8 8

1966-07-21 137 Charley Harvey 137 5-5-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1966-06-21 137 Manny Ramirez 134½ 15-1-2
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States L SD 10 10

1966-05-27 139 Charley Harvey 136 5-4-2
Sports Arena, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5

1966-05-19 136½ Al Ramirez 141 2-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1966-05-13 Al Ramirez 2-3-0
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1966-05-02 Jeff Phillip Magnan 3-0-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1966-04-07 137 Jerry Stevens 134 10-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1966-04-02 Al Sandoval 7-5-0
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1966-03-19 Wayman Gray 13-4-0
San Diego, California, United States D TD 6

1966-02-10 134½ Jerry Stevens 134 9-4-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1965-12-30 136½ Manuel Ochoa 132 14-22-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D TD 1 6

1965-12-23 136 Manuel Ochoa 135 14-21-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5

1965-11-25 135¾ Willie Ray 136 8-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6

1965-10-14 135½ Willie Ray 134 7-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 1 6

1965-09-30 136¼ Johnny Quintella 136¾ 12-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1965-04-06 139 Willie Castillo 140½ 11-3-0
International Center Arena, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L KO 4 8

1965-03-09 139½ Kenji Ishida 142½ 1-6-2
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States W PTS 6 6

1965-02-23 135½ Lionel Rivera 133 21-12-5
Civic Auditorium, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States W PTS 6 6

1965-02-16 137¼ Takeshi Fuji 138½ 6-0-0
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L KO 3 10

1965-01-29 136 Candy Barnes 139
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 5 5

1965-01-26 Johnny Brooks 14-5-2
Hacienda Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States L PTS 6 6

One opponent of his Benito Juarez he fought him in 1968, I got to know him in the late 1980s, he was working as a bartender here in town, but haven't seen him in 20 years, he had over 100 fights

[bennie]

I'm not sure if you guys have ever seen this from our own Danny Williams, the man who shocked Mike Tyson in the States in 2004, but it is an incredible win under the circumstances.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY1jzjTjIhY

Great comeback by Williams

I couldn't help but notice that the referee didn't clean Potter's gloves after the knock downs.

John Coyle, as with most referees, was flawed, but the most important job of the referee is to know when to stop a fight of course, and John earned his corn in that regard.

[kikibalt]

A Teamsters Boys Club boxer

Butch Contreras

division bantamweight

country United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States

won 7 (KO 1) + lost 4 (KO 0) + drawn 1 = 12
rounds boxed 66 KO% 8.33


1971-04-01 122 Rafael Lopez 125 1-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1970-10-03 124 Frankie Santillan 123 2-3-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1970-09-24 120 Mamoru Minami 121 6-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 6

1970-05-21 122½ Mamoru Minami 122½ 4-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 5 5

1970-05-14 119 Enrique Flores 123 4-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10

1967-04-20 124 Vic Jimenez 123
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4

1966-07-28 119½ Raton Antonio Perez 120 12-7-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6

1966-06-30 121 Manuel Chango Magallanes 118 18-27-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5

1966-06-16 120 Pimi Amador 120 13-23-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1966-06-02 118 Luke Smith 116 11-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 6 6

1966-04-30 Bobby Sandella 1-2-0
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 5 5

1966-04-21 125 Bobby Sandella 121 0-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5

[Rick Farris]

A Teamsters Boys Club boxer

Butch Contreras

division bantamweight

country United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States

won 7 (KO 1) + lost 4 (KO 0) + drawn 1 = 12
rounds boxed 66 KO% 8.33



1971-04-01 122 Rafael Lopez 125 1-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1970-10-03 124 Frankie Santillan 123 2-3-0
Valley Music Theatre, Woodland Hills, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1970-09-24 120 Mamoru Minami 121 6-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 6

1970-05-21 122½ Mamoru Minami 122½ 4-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 5 5

1970-05-14 119 Enrique Flores 123 4-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10

1967-04-20 124 Vic Jimenez 123
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4

1966-07-28 119½ Raton Antonio Perez 120 12-7-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6

1966-06-30 121 Manuel Chango Magallanes 118 18-27-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5

1966-06-16 120 Pimi Amador 120 13-23-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1966-06-02 118 Luke Smith 116 11-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 6 6

1966-04-30 Bobby Sandella 1-2-0
San Diego, California, United States W PTS 5 5

1966-04-21 125 Bobby Sandella 121 0-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5

Butch Contreras . . .

Frank, Don Chargin matched me with Butch Contreras in my 5th pro fight (on the undercard of Navarro-Lomeli-2).
Louie J. came to the weigh-in and informed us that Butch had come down with the flu, so I fought his stablemate Gabe Gutierrez.
I remembered Butch from the amateurs, a real solid tough guy in the ring.
I also remember his brother Davey, a featherweight who was unbeaten until matched with Frankie Crawford in a ten rounder.
A couple weeks later, after I fought Gutierrez, Butch fought my friend (and former opponent) Frankie Santillian, and won.
I recall Butch's real name was "Victor".
Another name on Contreras' record is Enrique Flores, whom I was scheduled to fight in my pro debut, but he didn't show at the weigh-in.
Enrique Flores would soon fight Jesus Pimentel and go the distance, which shows that Johnny Flores wasn't interested in matching me with bums early on.

[Rick Farris]

You know, I think a ''real kept man'' doesn't need a book to tell him how to operate, I am sure Frank never read one, it's instinctive.

Paul . . . The "Kept Man" manuel is like a bible to a true kept man.
Frank has loaned me his so I can practice for the day that I reach KM status.

[Rick Farris]

Internet sources are reporting that Matthew Hatton, brother of the now retired Ricky, will face hot Mexican prospect Saul Alvarez in the States in March.
Hatton holds the European welterweight title and has impressed in recent fights but the same can be said of the unbeaten Alvarez, a red-haired Mexican who looks like Paddy McGinty's goat and certainly fights like a short-tempered Irishman as he wades into his opponents throwing hard shots to head and body.
At just 20 years of age, the stocky Alvarez is nine years younger than Hatton and hits harder than the Manchester stylist, although he failed to stop tough Aussie veteran Lovemore Ndou last time out, settling for a unanimous 12-round decision. However, Hatton faced the same Ndou in 2009 and was held to a draw, which does separate the two fighters.
Matthew is a nice boxer who puts his punches together well but he lacks the snap in his punches to really deter a fighter like Alvarez, who is likely to force a late stoppage.

Bennie, I think that the Hatton family should prepare for another loss.
But I'd like to see a good fight.