Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Randyman]

My oncologist send me to see a urologist, I asked why, "just routine he said", since I didn't have an appointment with the urologist I had to wait a while, no problem, I had my note book computer to play with, finally my name is called, I'm put in a room, soon the door opens and a big black dude walks in, man!, this dude is big. He said hello and then he said:
"Drop'em" as he starts putting a latex glove on.
Man!, this guy hands are as big as Sonny Liston's.
"If you are going to do what I think you are going to do, you better use your pinkie" I said.
He started cracking up.
"Hey, its not funny, you know" I told him.
He did what I thought he was going to do, and no; he didn't use his pinkie
I'm still sitting here at Norris Cancer Center as I write this, I'm free to go, but I'm afraid to walk out because people are going to see that I'm walking like a duck......

Frank, I'm sorry you had to go through all that sh#t but I'm glad that despite it all you never lose your sense of humor.

I hope you feel better my friend!

Randy

Randy, I need my sense of humor to make my life easier....

Frank, a sense of humor is a gift from God.

[kikibalt]

Frank, I'm sorry you had to go through all that sh#t but I'm glad that despite it all you never lose your sense of humor.

I hope you feel better my friend!

Randy

Randy, I need my sense of humor to make my life easier....

Frank, a sense of humor is a gift from God.

Try telling that to Connie, she thinks I am crazy....

[THEHAMMER321]

Randy, I need my sense of humor to make my life easier....

Frank, a sense of humor is a gift from God.

Try telling that to Connie, she thinks I am crazy....

Frank being a kept man you gotta be crazy like a fox.

[kikibalt]

Frank, a sense of humor is a gift from God.

Try telling that to Connie, she thinks I am crazy....

Frank being a kept man you gotta be crazy like a fox.

If I'm crazy, then I'm not by law responsible for my actions, is what I tell her...

[Rick Farris]

Allen Syers boxing style was much like Ken Buchanan's.
He matched well with the tough Latino opposition he faced in L.A. both in the ring and in the gym.
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Allen Syers


lightweight
United Kingdom
residence Los Angeles, California,
birth place Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom
won 8 (KO 2) + lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 2 = 13
rounds boxed 58 KO% 15.38


1967-07-13 132 Joe Espinosa 133½ 1-0-0
Convention Center, Anaheim, California, United States W PTS 8 8
1967-01-19 135 Jose Claudio Adame 135 48-18-6
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 5 10
time: 2:34
A cut over Syers's left eye, led to the stoppage.

1966-10-13 133 Mando Ramos 133 11-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 5 10
time: 2:55 | referee: John Thomas
Syres down in the first round.

1966-09-08 135 Dave White 132 9-11-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 6
time: 0:33

1966-08-25 135½ Herman Escobar 135 2-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 1 6
time: 2:03
Escobar was knocked down, before being stopped on a cut.

1966-08-11 137 Roger Clark 138 1-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D TD 3 6
1966-07-21 138 Roger Clark 141 0-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1965-05-20 135 Jose Hueso 134½ 4-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1965-04-23 134 Jose Hueso 135 4-4-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5
1965-04-09 138 Zeke Perez 140½ 7-8-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5
1964-12-04 134 Jorge Rivera 135 0-6-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1964-11-12 136 Pedro Perro Reyes 137 5-9-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 5 5
1964-10-30 Pedro Perro Reyes 5-8-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

[THEHAMMER321]

Allen Syers boxing style was much like Ken Buchanan's.
He matched well with the tough Latino opposition he faced in L.A. both in the ring and in the gym.
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Allen Syers


lightweight
United Kingdom
residence Los Angeles, California,
birth place Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom
won 8 (KO 2) + lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 2 = 13
rounds boxed 58 KO% 15.38


1967-07-13 132 Joe Espinosa 133½ 1-0-0
Convention Center, Anaheim, California, United States W PTS 8 8
1967-01-19 135 Jose Claudio Adame 135 48-18-6
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 5 10
time: 2:34
A cut over Syers's left eye, led to the stoppage.

1966-10-13 133 Mando Ramos 133 11-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 5 10
time: 2:55 | referee: John Thomas
Syres down in the first round.

1966-09-08 135 Dave White 132 9-11-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 6
time: 0:33

1966-08-25 135½ Herman Escobar 135 2-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 1 6
time: 2:03
Escobar was knocked down, before being stopped on a cut.

1966-08-11 137 Roger Clark 138 1-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D TD 3 6
1966-07-21 138 Roger Clark 141 0-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1965-05-20 135 Jose Hueso 134½ 4-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1965-04-23 134 Jose Hueso 135 4-4-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5
1965-04-09 138 Zeke Perez 140½ 7-8-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5
1964-12-04 134 Jorge Rivera 135 0-6-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1964-11-12 136 Pedro Perro Reyes 137 5-9-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 5 5
1964-10-30 Pedro Perro Reyes 5-8-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

Rick did he move to the states when he turned pro ? and also does he still live here ?.

[Rick Farris]

Allen Syers boxing style was much like Ken Buchanan's.
He matched well with the tough Latino opposition he faced in L.A. both in the ring and in the gym.
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Allen Syers


lightweight
United Kingdom
residence Los Angeles, California,
birth place Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom
won 8 (KO 2) + lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 2 = 13
rounds boxed 58 KO% 15.38


1967-07-13 132 Joe Espinosa 133½ 1-0-0
Convention Center, Anaheim, California, United States W PTS 8 8
1967-01-19 135 Jose Claudio Adame 135 48-18-6
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 5 10
time: 2:34
A cut over Syers's left eye, led to the stoppage.

1966-10-13 133 Mando Ramos 133 11-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 5 10
time: 2:55 | referee: John Thomas
Syres down in the first round.

1966-09-08 135 Dave White 132 9-11-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 6
time: 0:33

1966-08-25 135½ Herman Escobar 135 2-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 1 6
time: 2:03
Escobar was knocked down, before being stopped on a cut.

1966-08-11 137 Roger Clark 138 1-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D TD 3 6
1966-07-21 138 Roger Clark 141 0-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1965-05-20 135 Jose Hueso 134½ 4-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1965-04-23 134 Jose Hueso 135 4-4-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5
1965-04-09 138 Zeke Perez 140½ 7-8-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 5 5
1964-12-04 134 Jorge Rivera 135 0-6-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1964-11-12 136 Pedro Perro Reyes 137 5-9-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 5 5
1964-10-30 Pedro Perro Reyes 5-8-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

Rick did he move to the states when he turned pro ? and also does he still live here ?.

Paul . . . Allen Syers moved here in the early 60's and has lived here ever since.
He and his wife currently live in Mission Viejo.
Allen is a regular among the Southern California boxing community, and is often at Golden State Boxer's Association meetings.
I know that the late Mando Ramos considered Syers one of his closest friends.
I remember sitting with Mando in his living room one afternoon. We were watching a video of his fight with Laguna.
Sylvia, Mando's wife had made us lunch, and when she came into the den with the food she told Mando, "Allen Syers called while you two were out."
Mando said he'd call him back. That was when I learned that Allen Syers was still around.
It was in 2003, the night Rodolfo Gonzalez was inducted into the WBHOF, that I met Syers again for the first time since 1966.
This is one special man and has some great Classic American West Coast boxing history to share.

[Rick Farris]

"If I'm crazy, then I'm not by law responsible for my actions, is what I tell her... "
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-KM Manuel / Chapter-6 (under "Insanity Plea" as defense)
Frank's got this down!

[Randyman]

Try telling that to Connie, she thinks I am crazy....

Frank being a kept man you gotta be crazy like a fox.

If I'm crazy, then I'm not by law responsible for my actions, is what I tell her...

I'm taking notes

[Randyman]

The WBC World Middleweight champ is Sergio Martinez. A deserving champion, no doubt.
I don't bother attempting to make sense of world ratings today. I never check them, for any reason.
I somehow got misdirected on the internet and found myself on a boxing site, the "world ratings" section.
I looked onto the page and saw the Middleweight division of the World Boxing Council. Martinez is the champ.
I might not recognize many of the contenders listed, but I reconized the name of the #1 contender.
The WBC's number-1 middleweight is Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Is that the best we can do today? I'm not talking about Chavez, but the morons who try to sell such nonsense.

Jose Sulaiman has been the president of the WBC for over 30 years and he has given favorable ratings to many undeserving fighters in the past also, so it comes as no surprise to find JCC Jr at the top of the ratings, I guess the Chavez name sells and that's good enough for the WBC, forget that there are probably at least 15 fighters who should be rated higher, years ago I remember that the other alphabet organization WBA used to rate undeserving South American mostly Colombian fighters way to high, these clowns are gonna keep doing the same old thing as long as they keep getting big sanctioning fees.

Well, you know the old saying "Money talks, bullsh*t walks" only in this case the bullsh*t stayed. I don't blame Junior though, with all the praise and PPV fights, and listening to his pops, he probably really believes he deserves it.

Somewhere down the line, when he's faced with a real fighter, I hope he passes the test.

[Rick Farris]

The WBC World Middleweight champ is Sergio Martinez. A deserving champion, no doubt.
I don't bother attempting to make sense of world ratings today. I never check them, for any reason.
I somehow got misdirected on the internet and found myself on a boxing site, the "world ratings" section.
I looked onto the page and saw the Middleweight division of the World Boxing Council. Martinez is the champ.
I might not recognize many of the contenders listed, but I reconized the name of the #1 contender.
The WBC's number-1 middleweight is Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Is that the best we can do today? I'm not talking about Chavez, but the morons who try to sell such nonsense.

Jose Sulaiman has been the president of the WBC for over 30 years and he has given favorable ratings to many undeserving fighters in the past also, so it comes as no surprise to find JCC Jr at the top of the ratings, I guess the Chavez name sells and that's good enough for the WBC, forget that there are probably at least 15 fighters who should be rated higher, years ago I remember that the other alphabet organization WBA used to rate undeserving South American mostly Colombian fighters way to high, these clowns are gonna keep doing the same old thing as long as they keep getting big sanctioning fees.

Well, you know the old saying "Money talks, bullsh*t walks" only in this case the bullsh*t stayed. I don't blame Junior though, with all the praise and PPV fights, and listening to his pops, he probably really believes he deserves it.

Somewhere down the line, when he's faced with a real fighter, I hope he passes the test.

Randy, I'd love to see the kid transform from a frog to a prince, and really show us some of what made us love his pop.
Will it happen? Anything is possible, I guess. The problem is there seems to be something missing. Something important.

[Panzerfaust]

18:01 LA time a son was born to me

[telboy66]

18:01 LA time a son was born to me

Congratulations mate,is he your 1st & have you given him a name yet

[bennie]

18:01 LA time a son was born to me

Fantastic news.

[Panzerfaust]

My first one yes The name has yet to be decided... I all for calling the boy Henry, wich i think is a sturdy name. But the missus doesent exactly agree

[bennie]

My first one yes The name has yet to be decided... I all for calling the boy Henry, wich i think is a sturdy name. But the missus doesent exactly agree

She is worthy of a say in the matter, I suppose.

[kikibalt]

My first one yes The name has yet to be decided... I all for calling the boy Henry, wich i think is a sturdy name. But the missus doesent exactly agree

She is worthy of a say in the matter, I suppose.

A boy named sue??.......who remembers a song by that name??

[Panzerfaust]

My first one yes The name has yet to be decided... I all for calling the boy Henry, wich i think is a sturdy name. But the missus doesent exactly agree

She is worthy of a say in the matter, I suppose.

A boy named sue??.......who remembers a song by that name??

One of my favourite Johnny Cash songs.

[kikibalt]

A Boy named sue

Well my daddy left home when I was three
And he didn't leave much to ma and me
Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze.
Now, I don't blame him cause he run and hid
But the meanest thing that he ever did
Was before he left, he went and named me "Sue."

Well, he must o' thought that is quite a joke
And it got a lot of laughs from a' lots of folk,
It seems I had to fight my whole life through.
Some gal would giggle and I'd get red
And some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head,
I tell ya, life ain't easy for a boy named "Sue."

Well, I grew up quick and I grew up mean,
My fist got hard and my wits got keen,
Roam from town to town to hide my shame.
But I made me a vow to the moon and stars
That I'd search the honky-tonks and bars
And kill that man who gave me that awful name.

Well, it was Gatlinburg in mid-July
And I just hit town and my throat was dry,
I thought I'd stop and have myself a brew.
At an old saloon on a street of mud,
There at a table, dealing stud,
Sat the dirty, mangy dog that named me "Sue."

Well, I knew that snake was my own sweet dad
From a worn-out picture that my mother'd had,
And I knew that scar on his cheek and his evil eye.
He was big and bent and gray and old,
And I looked at him and my blood ran cold
And I said: "My name is 'Sue!' How do you do!
Now you gonna die!!"
Yeah that's what I told him

Well, I hit him hard right between the eyes
And he went down, but to my surprise,

He come up with a knife and cut off a piece of my ear.
But I busted a chair right across his teeth
And we crashed through the wall and into the street
Kicking and a' gouging in the mud and the blood and the beer.

I tell ya, I've fought tougher men
But I really can't remember when,
He kicked like a mule and he bit like a crocodile.
I heard him laugh and then I heard him cuss,
He went for his gun and I pulled mine first,
He stood there lookin' at me and I saw him smile.

And he said: "Son, this world is rough
And if a man's gonna make it, he's gotta be tough
And I know I wouldn't be there to help you along.
So I give ya that name and I said goodbye
I knew you'd have to get tough or die
And it's the name that helped to make you strong."

He said: "Now you just fought one hell of a fight
And I know you hate me, and you got the right
To kill me now, and I wouldn't blame you if you do.
But ya ought to thank me, before I die,
For the gravel in ya guts and the spit in the eye
Cause I'm the son-of-a-bitch that named you "Sue.'"

What could I do? What could I do?
I got all choked up and I threw down my gun
And I called him my pa, and he called me his son,
And I came away with a different point of view.
And I think about him, now and then,
Every time I try and every time I win,
And if I ever have a son, I think I'm gonna name him
Bill or George! Anything but Sue! I still hate that name!

[kikibalt]

Congrats Ram....now name him Sue....

[Panzerfaust]

Think ill pass on that Frank

[kikibalt]

A Boy Named Sue
Johnny CaSH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euIuWoZIJVo

[Rick Farris]

18:01 LA time a son was born to me

Congratulations, Remy!!!!

[Rick Farris]

My first one yes The name has yet to be decided... I all for calling the boy Henry, wich i think is a sturdy name. But the missus doesent exactly agree

Henry! Well, as you know there was this guy Armstrong . . .
And one of the best left hooks in heavyweight boxing belonged to a Brit named Henry (Cooper).

[CNorkusJr]

Congratulations Remy. A fine lad I'm sure. Karl isnt so bad either.