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Rick Farris wrote:Davey Moore's opponents in Los Angeles . . .

Victor Quijano
Fili Nava
Vince Delgado
Lauro Salas
Kid Anahuac
Pajarito Moreno
Hogan "Kid " Bassey (twice)
Danny Valdez
Felix Cervantes
Cisco Andrade
Mario Diaz
Sugar Ramos

Davey Moore was unbeaten in Los Angeles until his very last bout, when he lost his title and his life to Sugar Ramos.
It was 1963, I was 11. I remember reading of Moore's death, remember the irony of Emile Griffith fighting that night.
A year previous, Benny Paret died after his bout with Griffith.
The Moore- Ramos fight card would be the only one in the history of L.A.'s Dodger Stadium.
Less than a year after it had opened, Dodger Stadium hosted the Moore-Ramos card.
After the death of Davey Moore, L.A. Dodgers president Walter O'Malley said that Dodger Stadium would never again host boxing.
48 years have passed since the Davey Moore-Sugar Ramos card. And as the late Walter O'Malley promised, "no more boxing."

The original date for the fights at Dodgers Stadium was a week before the fights actually took place. A week before that ill fated night Connie and I were sitting ringside in a down pour of rain when in the 11th hour a decision was made to postpone the fights. A week later, give or take a day the fights were held and we all know the out come of that tragic night.
Killed in auto accident on his way home from the fights that night was Hank Weaver, Hank was the ringside TV announcer for the Hollywood Legion Stadium fights in the early 1950's, he also had a short segment on TV before the fights, "Under The Pepper Trees", where he would interview fighters and fans as they came into the Stadium.
Would the out come been different for Moore and Weaver had the fights been held on the original date? we'll never know, will we?.

Panzerfaust wrote:I met Joseph Nsubuga who fought both Duran and Moore once in Oslo a few years back,Unfortunatly he didnt seem to be doing very well. :(

He did put up a pretty decent effort against Duran though

Duff threw him in a bit with Duran. Nsubuga was one of those strong, willing Africans, and men who walked into Duran didn't have a prayer.

Rick Farris wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Way late Paul....

You must have forgot, you aren't the only ''kept man'' on the thread, you got more experience but I am closing in fast.

For the "Kept Man" . . .

Well Paul, all "Kept Men" on this thread (and wanna be's like myself and Randy) will be at the CBHOF lunch.
According to the "Kept Man" manuel, it's a must. Any man (within five hours of LA) who can't make it to the 2011 CBHOF lunch, will never be "Kept".
See you in June amigo, and the wives will all be there!
You'll have two complimentary tickets waiting at the "Fritzie Zivic" table, with Remy & his lady (and maybe son?), Brian (ExPug) and wife, myself & Monica, Frank & Randy will be close, and Tom Ray, and a guy who helped start this thread, Roger Esty. And if we are real lucky, Dan Hanley & Pops.
I'm having my cousin come in from Florida to shoot still photos.
And I'll have a cameraman & sound man, and a room set-up like a studio for the weekend.
And a couple interviewers for lunch, hand held camera stuff.
We have a few special boxers being inducted, and some notable California boxing personalities.
In the house will be some great boxing legends.
One guy who was big here was light-heavy top ten contender, Ray "Windmill" White. The "Clown Prince" of boxing.
White fought, and beat, some of the best 175 pounders of his era. He was a real good man, personally.
The same can be said for my personal favorite, Dwight Hawkins. He was so very good! That's all I can say.
The rest is just icing on a historically correct cake.
Paul, now that we understand you don't have to worry about "taking time off work", and being a "kept man", you'll be free to come, and bring mamma!

Looking forward to meeting you, June 25th!

This year I will be there, I think what I will do is take the kids on vacation leaving here on Friday and getting a motel near Disneyland or Knottsberry farm for the weekend and on Saturday morning drop them off at one of the amusement parks while I go to the CBHOF Lunch and then joining them later, as for mamma it could take some doing for me to get her to attend, many times in the past when I took the kids to California on vacation, I gave her a break from the kids and she just stayed home, so I don't know if she will even come with us,but you can count me in for being at the CBHOF this year.

bennie wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Regarding the more recent Davey Moore, many people unfairly criticized his managers after his loss to Duran, but I remember the whole scenario very well, Duran had lost to Kirkland Laing and in his next fight looked very ordinary against Jimmy Batten winning a decision, then he beat Pipino Cuevas,going into the fight with Cuevas both men were considered washed up, and the odds on the fight with Moore were, Davey Moore 3 to 1 favorite, so in actuality most people picked Moore to win,and the people who picked Duran were doing so out of sentimentality , so know Duran goes out and gives Davey Moore a beating and people start criticizing Moore's managers for throwing him to the wolves a 12 fight novice they cried, if anybody was calling the fight a mismatch prefight it was people saying Duran was over the hill and how the bigger stronger faster younger Moore would prove to swift for him,a fickle bunch boxing fans are.

You could get 3/1 on Duran before the Moore fight.

Betting Duran . . .

I drove to Las Vegas specificly to bet that fight. As Bennie said, odds were 3-1 favoring Moore.
At Bally's I bet Duran at +250. $1000 turned into $3500.
I only did that twice in my life. The other time was when Iran Barkley was 3-1 over Duran.
I made the exact same bet with the same pay off, several years later.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote: You must have forgot, you aren't the only ''kept man'' on the thread, you got more experience but I am closing in fast.

For the "Kept Man" . . .

Well Paul, all "Kept Men" on this thread (and wanna be's like myself and Randy) will be at the CBHOF lunch.
According to the "Kept Man" manuel, it's a must. Any man (within five hours of LA) who can't make it to the 2011 CBHOF lunch, will never be "Kept".
See you in June amigo, and the wives will all be there!
You'll have two complimentary tickets waiting at the "Fritzie Zivic" table, with Remy & his lady (and maybe son?), Brian (ExPug) and wife, myself & Monica, Frank & Randy will be close, and Tom Ray, and a guy who helped start this thread, Roger Esty. And if we are real lucky, Dan Hanley & Pops.
I'm having my cousin come in from Florida to shoot still photos.
And I'll have a cameraman & sound man, and a room set-up like a studio for the weekend.
And a couple interviewers for lunch, hand held camera stuff.
We have a few special boxers being inducted, and some notable California boxing personalities.
In the house will be some great boxing legends.
One guy who was big here was light-heavy top ten contender, Ray "Windmill" White. The "Clown Prince" of boxing.
White fought, and beat, some of the best 175 pounders of his era. He was a real good man, personally.
The same can be said for my personal favorite, Dwight Hawkins. He was so very good! That's all I can say.
The rest is just icing on a historically correct cake.
Paul, now that we understand you don't have to worry about "taking time off work", and being a "kept man", you'll be free to come, and bring mamma!

Looking forward to meeting you, June 25th!

This year I will be there, I think what I will do is take the kids on vacation leaving here on Friday and getting a motel near Disneyland or Knottsberry farm for the weekend and on Saturday morning drop them off at one of the amusement parks while I go to the CBHOF Lunch and then joining them later, as for mamma it could take some doing for me to get her to attend, many times in the past when I took the kids to California on vacation, I gave her a break from the kids and she just stayed home, so I don't know if she will even come with us,but you can count me in for being at the CBHOF this year.

Great, Paul! It'll be a good time.

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Davey Moore's opponents in Los Angeles . . .

Victor Quijano
Fili Nava
Vince Delgado
Lauro Salas
Kid Anahuac
Pajarito Moreno
Hogan "Kid " Bassey (twice)
Danny Valdez
Felix Cervantes
Cisco Andrade
Mario Diaz
Sugar Ramos

Davey Moore was unbeaten in Los Angeles until his very last bout, when he lost his title and his life to Sugar Ramos.
It was 1963, I was 11. I remember reading of Moore's death, remember the irony of Emile Griffith fighting that night.
A year previous, Benny Paret died after his bout with Griffith.
The Moore- Ramos fight card would be the only one in the history of L.A.'s Dodger Stadium.
Less than a year after it had opened, Dodger Stadium hosted the Moore-Ramos card.
After the death of Davey Moore, L.A. Dodgers president Walter O'Malley said that Dodger Stadium would never again host boxing.
48 years have passed since the Davey Moore-Sugar Ramos card. And as the late Walter O'Malley promised, "no more boxing."

The original date for the fights at Dodgers Stadium was a week before the fights actually took place. A week before that ill fated night Connie and I were sitting ringside in a down pour of rain when in the 11th hour a decision was made to postpone the fights. A week later, give or take a day the fights were held and we all know the out come of that tragic night.
Killed in auto accident on his way home from the fights that night was Hank Weaver, Hank was the ringside TV announcer for the Hollywood Legion Stadium fights in the early 1950's, he also had a short segment on TV before the fights, "Under The Pepper Trees", where he would interview fighters and fans as they came into the Stadium.
Would the out come been different for Moore and Weaver had the fights been held on the original date? we'll never know, will we?.

Interesting news, Frank.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote: You must have forgot, you aren't the only ''kept man'' on the thread, you got more experience but I am closing in fast.

For the "Kept Man" . . .

Well Paul, all "Kept Men" on this thread (and wanna be's like myself and Randy) will be at the CBHOF lunch.
According to the "Kept Man" manuel, it's a must. Any man (within five hours of LA) who can't make it to the 2011 CBHOF lunch, will never be "Kept".
See you in June amigo, and the wives will all be there!
You'll have two complimentary tickets waiting at the "Fritzie Zivic" table, with Remy & his lady (and maybe son?), Brian (ExPug) and wife, myself & Monica, Frank & Randy will be close, and Tom Ray, and a guy who helped start this thread, Roger Esty. And if we are real lucky, Dan Hanley & Pops.
I'm having my cousin come in from Florida to shoot still photos.
And I'll have a cameraman & sound man, and a room set-up like a studio for the weekend.
And a couple interviewers for lunch, hand held camera stuff.
We have a few special boxers being inducted, and some notable California boxing personalities.
In the house will be some great boxing legends.
One guy who was big here was light-heavy top ten contender, Ray "Windmill" White. The "Clown Prince" of boxing.
White fought, and beat, some of the best 175 pounders of his era. He was a real good man, personally.
The same can be said for my personal favorite, Dwight Hawkins. He was so very good! That's all I can say.
The rest is just icing on a historically correct cake.
Paul, now that we understand you don't have to worry about "taking time off work", and being a "kept man", you'll be free to come, and bring mamma!

Looking forward to meeting you, June 25th!

This year I will be there, I think what I will do is take the kids on vacation leaving here on Friday and getting a motel near Disneyland or Knottsberry farm for the weekend and on Saturday morning drop them off at one of the amusement parks while I go to the CBHOF Lunch and then joining them later, as for mamma it could take some doing for me to get her to attend, many times in the past when I took the kids to California on vacation, I gave her a break from the kids and she just stayed home, so I don't know if she will even come with us,but you can count me in for being at the CBHOF this year.

Good!, you get to buy the booze...

Welsh "Rock" Gavin Rees looks likely to make the first defence of his British lightweight title against Liverpool's John Watson, the man he stopped in 11 thrilling rounds to lift the belt a couple of months ago in Newport.
Rees, a former world light-welterweight champion from Joe Calzaghe's hometown of Newbridge, survived a rocky middle-round period to outlast the previously unbeaten Watson, who deserves a second go for the fight he put up. Watson was just 13-0 going in, conceding masses of experience, but he hurt the home man with uppercuts in the seventh round and proved that today's crop of Liverpool fighters are a special breed indeed, much like the Philly fighters of the 1970s or those red and gold Kronk boys a decade later. Success breeds success, and while Watson eventually lost of course, stopped under fire on the ropes, he will have 'grown' from the whole experience, although you still favour the cute, underrated Rees to get past him again.
Rees is a man who seems to have been around forever yet he is still only 30, just three years older than Watson would you believe. At 34-1 (16), the champion's only defeat came to classy Ukrainian Andreas Kotelnik up at light-welterweight (stopped in 12) and he looks remarkably strong and fresh at lightweight, where there are some attractive matches in the offing for him.
Firstly, he needs to deal with Watson, and I can see Rees boxing and punching his way to a hard-earned decision.

Rick Farris wrote:Teddy Bentham . . .

Charlie, I know you are a little younger than me, but do you remember Teddy Bentham from New York?
He trained some great fighters such as Carlos Ortiz, and later my stablemate, Jerry Quarry.
He was in my corner once as a second for Johnny Flores. Teddy was close with Main Street Gym owner, Howie Steindler, in L.A.
Bentham passed away shortly after the incident with the Model-A.
He was found dead several days later in Foy's home.

I dont remember meeting Teddy Bentham, Rick. In 1966, I was 9 years old and my father wanted to bring me to the Jerry Quarry-Tony Alongi fight in Madison Sq Garden.
This would have been my first pro fight card I ever attended. I have been to gyms with my father beforehand, and I guess he figured it would be time for me to go.
My mother put up quite a battle with my dad about this. First, if I'm not mistaken, I think New York, (dont quote me on this) had a law barring youngsters from attending fights.But my father knew that he could get me in with him. But the bigger arguement came from my mother as what was going to happen to me AFTER the fights. My dad usually went with the boxing crowd afterward to PJ Clarkes or Toots Shors, or Gallaghers Steak House to hoist a few.My dad said we would come right home but we knew better. Instead, a month later, I attended my first fight card about 20 minutes from our house here on Long Island. Freeport Stadium,a primarily used demolition/stock car race track, but was transformed over to outdoor boxing on some Friday nights. It was a Bobby Cassidy-Vinnie Martinez(Not to be confused with Vince Martinez of New Jersey Fame) Main Event.
I first met Jerry Quarry in 1974 while he worked out in Westbury, Long Island under a tent. I think I posted on this story before. He was facing either Larry Alexander in the Nassau Coliseum, or Joe Frazier in the Garden for their second fight there.I was finishing up High School then and my father let me stay home one day to go see Quarry train. Mr Bentham had passed away by then and Gil Clancy had Jerry then.
There was no mention of Mr Bentham,as far as I can remember,but my dad would have known him for sure. Carlos Ortiz was a longtime family friend of my dads and saw each other frequently. No doubt Mr Bentham and my dad crossed paths here in New York.

Carlos and my dad. L-R Carlos (61-7-1) ,Terry Young (69-29-5),Hy Levine(business man), Charley (33-19), LuLu Costantino (102-28-6)

Just got back from the manudo place....

Teddy Brenner
From Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Teddy Brenner got his start in boxing arranging fights in New Brunswick, New Jersey, for Irving Cohen shortly after World War II. In 1947, he was hired as assistant matchmaker at Madison Square Garden. After the Garden had a falling out with the Boxing Managers' Guild, and lost its booking rights, Brenner moved to the Laurel Garden in Newark, New Jersey.

Brenner would return to various roles in New York City during the 1950s working as assistant matchmaker at the Garden again, as well as matchmaking and promoting at Coney Island Velodrome, Long Beach Stadium, and finally at Eastern Parkway Arena. It was at Eastern Parkway where he was able to establish himself, with the help of the Dumont television network's broadcast of his Monday night shows. All told Brenner made 156 television main events during his run at Eastern Parkway.

Eastern Parkway Arena was struggling to stay afloat due to declining attendance and ratings, so Brenner shifted to the other remaining New York club, the St. Nicholas Arena. He would work there until 1959, when the IBC was broken up.

After this, Brenner became the matchmaker at Madison Square Garden, a position he would hold for over nineteen years, until 1973. Here he would book his most famous fight, the first meeting between Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier.

In 1973, with the retirement of Harry Markson, he took over as the president of Madison Square Garden Boxing, Inc. He was fired as president in 1978 by Sonny Werblin, after he declined to do business with Don King. In 1980, he was hired as an advisor by Bob Arum and Top Rank Boxing.

Rick Farris wrote:

bennie wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Regarding the more recent Davey Moore, many people unfairly criticized his managers after his loss to Duran, but I remember the whole scenario very well, Duran had lost to Kirkland Laing and in his next fight looked very ordinary against Jimmy Batten winning a decision, then he beat Pipino Cuevas,going into the fight with Cuevas both men were considered washed up, and the odds on the fight with Moore were, Davey Moore 3 to 1 favorite, so in actuality most people picked Moore to win,and the people who picked Duran were doing so out of sentimentality , so know Duran goes out and gives Davey Moore a beating and people start criticizing Moore's managers for throwing him to the wolves a 12 fight novice they cried, if anybody was calling the fight a mismatch prefight it was people saying Duran was over the hill and how the bigger stronger faster younger Moore would prove to swift for him,a fickle bunch boxing fans are.

You could get 3/1 on Duran before the Moore fight.

Betting Duran . . .

I drove to Las Vegas specificly to bet that fight. As Bennie said, odds were 3-1 favoring Moore.
At Bally's I bet Duran at +250. $1000 turned into $3500.
I only did that twice in my life. The other time was when Iran Barkley was 3-1 over Duran.
I made the exact same bet with the same pay off, several years later.

Rick, I was saying in my writing I stated Moore was 3 to 1, I think when Bennie replied he was asking me if you could get 3 to 1,the reason I say this is we were online at the same time this morning.

kikibalt wrote:Just got back from the manudo place....

Did you have 2 bowls to make up for last week.

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Just got back from the manudo place....

Did you have 2 bowls to make up for last week.

No, just one with a hard taco on the side.....

CNorkusJr wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Teddy Bentham . . .

Charlie, I know you are a little younger than me, but do you remember Teddy Bentham from New York?
He trained some great fighters such as Carlos Ortiz, and later my stablemate, Jerry Quarry.
He was in my corner once as a second for Johnny Flores. Teddy was close with Main Street Gym owner, Howie Steindler, in L.A.
Bentham passed away shortly after the incident with the Model-A.
He was found dead several days later in Foy's home.

I dont remember meeting Teddy Bentham, Rick. In 1966, I was 9 years old and my father wanted to bring me to the Jerry Quarry-Tony Alongi fight in Madison Sq Garden.
This would have been my first pro fight card I ever attended. I have been to gyms with my father beforehand, and I guess he figured it would be time for me to go.
My mother put up quite a battle with my dad about this. First, if I'm not mistaken, I think New York, (dont quote me on this) had a law barring youngsters from attending fights.But my father knew that he could get me in with him. But the bigger arguement came from my mother as what was going to happen to me AFTER the fights. My dad usually went with the boxing crowd afterward to PJ Clarkes or Toots Shors, or Gallaghers Steak House to hoist a few.My dad said we would come right home but we knew better. Instead, a month later, I attended my first fight card about 20 minutes from our house here on Long Island. Freeport Stadium,a primarily used demolition/stock car race track, but was transformed over to outdoor boxing on some Friday nights. It was a Bobby Cassidy-Vinnie Martinez(Not to be confused with Vince Martinez of New Jersey Fame) Main Event.
I first met Jerry Quarry in 1974 while he worked out in Westbury, Long Island under a tent. I think I posted on this story before. He was facing either Larry Alexander in the Nassau Coliseum, or Joe Frazier in the Garden for their second fight there.I was finishing up High School then and my father let me stay home one day to go see Quarry train. Mr Bentham had passed away by then and Gil Clancy had Jerry then.
There was no mention of Mr Bentham,as far as I can remember,but my dad would have known him for sure. Carlos Ortiz was a longtime family friend of my dads and saw each other frequently. No doubt Mr Bentham and my dad crossed paths here in New York.

Carlos and my dad. L-R Carlos (61-7-1) ,Terry Young (69-29-5),Hy Levine(business man), Charley (33-19), LuLu Costantino (102-28-6)

Charlie . . . That was great what you shared about Quarry, and your dad. Your dad and Teddy surely knew each other.
One thing I truly appreciate was seeng Carlos Ortiz at WBHOF banquets. He and his wife Maria were always there.
In 2007, Dan Hanley and I got a great interview with Ortiz on camera.
It was really cool, and we will preview the interview in a week or two along with an Armando Muniz interview we also did that day.
Man, Ortiz is just a kid in that photo!

An increasingly rare event in British boxing is the rematch, but Tony Bellew, one of the most honest fighters you could ever wish to meet bucks the trend when he gives Ovill McKenzie an immediate return for the vacant British light-heavyweight title next month at York Hall (February 19).
F rank Warren promotes.
Bellew climbed off the floor twice to stop McKenzie in eight rounds in Liverpool just last month but the stoppage looked premature from Preston referee Phil Edwards with the fight still very much up for grabs. The bone of contention is that, while Bellew was given the chance to continue after those two knockdowns, the second one a heavy knockdown, McKenzie was given no such chance after he clambered up from a knockdown in that eighth round, referee Edwards waving it off immediately.
McKenzie, who goes by the nickname of "The Upsetter", called out Bellew in the aftermath and while you should always be careful what you wish for, the Derby man is strong, seasoned and sharp enough to put up another excellent showing. Will he win? No, because he came as close as he ever will to winning the first time, dropping the unbeaten Bellew with right hands in the first and second rounds but admiring his work too much and allowing the heavy handed Bellew back into the fight. It was a big left hook that floored McKenzie in the end, but he did deserve a chance to continue, in my opinion, and continue he does next month.
However, the unbeaten Bellew looks likely to punch his way to the points.

Rick Farris wrote:

bennie wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:Regarding the more recent Davey Moore, many people unfairly criticized his managers after his loss to Duran, but I remember the whole scenario very well, Duran had lost to Kirkland Laing and in his next fight looked very ordinary against Jimmy Batten winning a decision, then he beat Pipino Cuevas,going into the fight with Cuevas both men were considered washed up, and the odds on the fight with Moore were, Davey Moore 3 to 1 favorite, so in actuality most people picked Moore to win,and the people who picked Duran were doing so out of sentimentality , so know Duran goes out and gives Davey Moore a beating and people start criticizing Moore's managers for throwing him to the wolves a 12 fight novice they cried, if anybody was calling the fight a mismatch prefight it was people saying Duran was over the hill and how the bigger stronger faster younger Moore would prove to swift for him,a fickle bunch boxing fans are.

You could get 3/1 on Duran before the Moore fight.

Betting Duran . . .

I drove to Las Vegas specificly to bet that fight. As Bennie said, odds were 3-1 favoring Moore.
At Bally's I bet Duran at +250. $1000 turned into $3500.
I only did that twice in my life. The other time was when Iran Barkley was 3-1 over Duran.
I made the exact same bet with the same pay off, several years later.

Barkley fought a great fight, possibly his best ever, but it still wasn't enough.

bennie wrote:An increasingly rare event in British boxing is the rematch, but Tony Bellew, one of the most honest fighters you could ever wish to meet bucks the trend when he gives Ovill McKenzie an immediate return for the Commonwealth light-heavyweight title next month at York Hall (February 19).
F rank Warren promotes.
Bellew, the champion, climbed off the floor twice to stop McKenzie in eight rounds in Liverpool just last month but the stoppage looked premature from Preston referee Phil Edwards with the fight still very much up for grabs. The bone of contention is that, while Bellew was given the chance to continue after those two knockdowns, the second one a heavy knockdown, McKenzie was given no such chance after he clambered up from a knockdown in that eighth round, refereee Edwards waving it off immediately.
McKenzie, who goes by the nickname of "The Upsetter", called out Bellew in the aftermath and while you should always be careful what you wish for, the Derby man is strong, seasoned and sharp enough to put up another excellent showing. Will he win? No, because he came as close as he ever will to winning the first time, dropping the unbeaten Bellew with right hands in the first and second rounds but admiring his work too much and allowing the heavy handed Bellew back into the fight. It was a big left hook that floored McKenzie in the end, but he did deserve a chance to continue, in my opinion, and continue he does next month.
However, the unbeaten Bellew looks likely to punch his way to the points.

It happens all through boxing history the house fighter gets the chance to recover but as soon as his opponent shows the slightest distress the fight gets stopped. This has the makings of a good fight I feel Bellew will have learned more from their 1st fight & will win comfortably

Check out the Klits in this:

http://www.boxingfutures.com/opinion/01 ... hkos-movie

Carlos Ortiz is a true gentleman. The handful of times I have been with him and my dad,you couldn't have spoken to a better guy. It's one of those things that it was hard to believe that he was a real brawler in the ring and he definetly exudes that "Champion" aura about him. It is wonderful to hear that he makes most of the WBHOF events.
Here is a more recent photo than the last-probably about 1988- at the Downtown athletic Club.My dad and Carlos. I took this photo and he signed it the following year for us.

bennie wrote:Check out the Klits in this:

http://www.boxingfutures.com/opinion/01 ... hkos-movie

Bennie, I never laughed so hard. This is really great stuff they produced over there.
The impression that I have of the Klitschkos' is of a no nonsense kind of atitude. I attended the Vlad K- Ibragmov fight here in the Garden. All the interviews that they had of Vlad was sullen and straight forward in nature. It looked like he had no personality whats so ever.
Maybe he doesnt like the USA, I dont know as he fights here rarely, and his sharpest critics I think are American, so he looks too stern when he is depicted here.

To see him in this light and with an obvious sense of humor-well, its just different.
I read a story not long ago, that he held a press conference in Grand Central Station here in New York. It is a rather large building that sees 100,000 people pass through its doors on there way to out-of-state destinations by trains.The news programs showed a 20 second snippet of the boxing announcement. They said when the cameras were off. about 250 people had amass around the podium, and Vlad walked right over to a few children and began to speak with them as he crouched down. They said he was a very affable guy and smiled alot. Of course, they made no mention of this in the papers or news clips.

I enjoyed this piece you sent Bennie.Thank You.
After Thomas Adamek dispatched Vinnie Maddalone in Dec., Thomas said he wanted Vlad next. But if Vlad didnt want to fight him then David Haye would be in order if he wants that too. Adamek, a natural Lt-Heavy moved up to Heavy but still has speed in his punches. He had a bad time getting past Mike Grant when he moved up to Heavy for the first time as Grants reach kept Thomas at bay. Grant lost the fight in the early rds to Adamek. My opinion that Vlad would manhandle Adamek easily on height and reach alone.

It will be 83 degrees in L.A. today. Beautiful day.

Rick Farris wrote:It will be 83 degrees in L.A. today. Beautiful day.

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:It will be 83 degrees in L.A. today. Beautiful day.

Good morning, Frank.
I'm not computor literate and I can't find a file that has some WBHOF photos of Carlos Ortiz.
Monica rearranged all of the folders, files, etc. and now I can't find anything.