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Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:10
by ReggieDiggs
Great defensive performance by Floyd tonight. Seemed like he barely got hit. Legs were not shot obviously as many suggest after the fight with Miguel. Looking forward to Floyd's next fight. Still the biggest guy in boxing & puts on the biggest shows.

Random Predictions after tonites fight for Floyd.
No way Floyd fights in September. Didn't think that was going to happen before this fight. Really don't think it happen now with this hand injury.
Small chance he fights Saul next.
Solid chance he'll fight Devon Alexander next (or Kell if he gets back in line again for Devon & beats Devon).
If Floyd somehow makes a serious attempt at this 6 fight in 30month deal he's not gonna retire undefeated.
I'll be slightly surprised if this fight did 1million buys on PPV. Really surprised if it did more than 1.25mill.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:11
by Joe Boxer
Evander wrote:If they can't challenge themselves as boxers at least challenge yourselves as fight fans and demand more.
:TU:

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:12
by world ranked
Him vs Devon Alexander can't see that I could see Amir Khan before that.
What selling point does that fight have to have anyone think its worth buying.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:16
by dickbelden
is not devon alexander decidedly better than amir khan?

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:17
by ReggieDiggs
Blodhemn wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:
Tanzio wrote:Damn, the whining by so many of you bitches. Appreciate the talent. FMJ did his thing, after all of the drama and layoffs, he got the job done.
Hardcore boxing fans are some of the worst sports fans & just biggest assholes around...this sh!t is standard. Guy loses a fight & he sucks. Great fighters put on a master class of boxing skills & their boring. Virtually every boxer "has beaten no one". Its silly sh!t.
If only you were this supportive of Wladimir. :doh:
Cmon man. 9/10 anti-Wlad comments I make are in "Wlad is the #2 greatest HW of all time" type dipsh!t threads. That other 1/10 anti-Wlad comment is about his opponents being hyped usually which are quite often pretty stupid ass threads too you gotta admit.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:19
by world ranked
dickbelden wrote:is not devon alexander decidedly better than amir khan?
Its not better its the sale of the fight. Devon won't see too many PPV.
Even though England fans knows Amir has no chance they'll still
by the PPV so the B side actually bring number to the table. Devon
may not be as known as Judah when he fought Mayweather.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:22
by ReggieDiggs
dickbelden wrote:is not devon alexander decidedly better than amir khan?
Well Devon hasn't been KTFO twice. Nor dropped by a journeyman in his last fight. I'm not saying Amir is out of the running (I think if Floyd is gonna make a run at this 6 fight deal Amir is probably on the potential future opponent list), but the brother is gonna have to win a fight of semi importance before he's on the table again & not be life & death with random mfers thats for sure. Devon gots a belt. Devon has only lost to Tim. Devon & Danny Garcia are higher on the Floyd sweepstakes list than Amir right now, I'd assume that was obvious.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:26
by world ranked
ReggieDiggs wrote:
dickbelden wrote:is not devon alexander decidedly better than amir khan?
Well Devon hasn't been KTFO twice. Nor dropped by a journeyman in his last fight. I'm not saying Amir is out of the running (I think if Floyd is gonna make a run at this 6 fight deal Amir is probably on the potential future opponent list), but the brother is gonna have to win a fight of semi importance before he's on the table again & not be life & death with random mfers thats for sure. Devon gots a belt. Devon has only lost to Tim. Devon & Danny Garcia are higher on the Floyd sweepstakes list than Amir right now, I'd assume that was obvious.
I disagree because neither brings anything to table as the B-side and their not really competive fight imo. I
think because has a fans in the UK he brings another audience. I doubt fans would be happy with blown 140
guys and that's including Khan. He just brings more to the table than any of those.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:28
by gilgamesh
ReggieDiggs wrote:
dickbelden wrote:is not devon alexander decidedly better than amir khan?
Well Devon hasn't been KTFO twice. Nor dropped by a journeyman in his last fight. I'm not saying Amir is out of the running (I think if Floyd is gonna make a run at this 6 fight deal Amir is probably on the potential future opponent list), but the brother is gonna have to win a fight of semi importance before he's on the table again & not be life & death with random mfers thats for sure. Devon gots a belt. Devon has only lost to Tim. Devon & Danny Garcia are higher on the Floyd sweepstakes list than Amir right now, I'd assume that was obvious.
Yeah I figure there's a strong chance Devon gets the call next time out.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:29
by dickbelden
i would like to see a khan vs prescott rematch. the way tunney hunted down greb after greb beat him.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:30
by Blodhemn
ReggieDiggs wrote: Cmon man. 9/10 anti-Wlad comments I make are in "Wlad is the #2 greatest HW of all time" type dipsh!t threads. That other 1/10 anti-Wlad comment is about his opponents being hyped usually which are quite often pretty stupid ass threads too you gotta admit.
Please homie, all you do is post about how shitty the HW's are. Pianeta had as much of a shot to beat Wlad as Guerrero did with Money da May.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:43
by ReggieDiggs
world ranked wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:
dickbelden wrote:is not devon alexander decidedly better than amir khan?
Well Devon hasn't been KTFO twice. Nor dropped by a journeyman in his last fight. I'm not saying Amir is out of the running (I think if Floyd is gonna make a run at this 6 fight deal Amir is probably on the potential future opponent list), but the brother is gonna have to win a fight of semi importance before he's on the table again & not be life & death with random mfers thats for sure. Devon gots a belt. Devon has only lost to Tim. Devon & Danny Garcia are higher on the Floyd sweepstakes list than Amir right now, I'd assume that was obvious.
I disagree because neither brings anything to table as the B-side and their not really competive fight imo. I
think because has a fans in the UK he brings another audience. I doubt fans would be happy with blown 140
guys and that's including Khan. He just brings more to the table than any of those.
Show me a competitive Floyd fight at 147? Floyd wipes his ass with everyone at 147.

Devon holds a title at 147. Floyd fights champions. That is exactly what Devon is. Amir is barely holding his own with f#cking journeymen these days. I agree Amir is the guy who could sell bigger at his peak cuz Devon gots the personality of a cardboard box, but not when Amir is getting nearly taken out by Julio Diaz & is on a pretty sh!tty overall run in his last several fights. Amir needs a big W, Amir needs a belt to be a viable pick in the Floyd sweepstakes. One thing I'll say about Floyd's choices of opponents is he tends to pick guys at high points in their career. Amir is definitely not at a high point in his career & I don't think he's getting a fight with Floyd if his stock doesn't start rising again. Floyd takes sh!t for his opposition, but look at his last several opponents. They usually aren't getting KTFO in their last title fight or dropped by journeymen right before getting a Floyd fight. Amir won't be either.

I think with Angel's big mouth & Danny's pretty record fans would eat up that fight & quickly forget or not care Danny is moving up to 147. That fight might be the 2nd biggest fight that can actually be made (cuz Manny is with TR) for Floyd cuz of all the hype that fight will end up getting with Angel's rants & Floyd's retorts or rants of his own.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:46
by SaadOffTheDeck
Anyone that can't see the brilliance in Floyd is blind. He was really uncomfortable for about five minutes then he completely schooled Guerrero. I'm not a Floyd fan, but fornicating :TU: ; the mans a genius.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:46
by ReggieDiggs
Blodhemn wrote:Please homie, all you do is post about how shitty the HW's are.
:zzz:

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:53
by Blodhemn
:zzz: :zzz:
One for your post and another for this fight. Congrats to Floyd for making a Wlad fight look entertaining by comparison.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 01:58
by Boxing Writer
Blodhemn wrote:Congrats to Floyd for making a Wlad fight look entertaining by comparison.
:TU: :OhYes:

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 02:33
by gilgamesh
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Anyone that can't see the brilliance in Floyd is blind. He was really uncomfortable for about five minutes then he completely schooled Guerrero. I'm not a Floyd fan, but effing :TU: ; the mans a genius.
I was talking to my friend about that earlier. We were talking about how to possibly beat Floyd and basically what it would be is a fighter would have to come into fights with multiple gameplans, because whatever your plan is, even if it's working and your giving Floyd problems for 2 or 3 rounds, he's going to figure you out and adjust to you, and the only way you're gonna be able to stay in the fight is to adjust too.

There's no ONE way to beat Floyd. You have to have a Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, and Plan D.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 03:20
by Evander
Doubt they could sell it as a rematch.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 03:22
by gilgamesh
Evander wrote:Doubt they could sell it as a rematch.
What a Guerrero rematch? I don't think anybody would be interested outside of Guerrero himself...even he probably wouldn't really be all that interested.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 03:30
by Evander
As much as Guerrero charged in he kept on getting caught.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 03:35
by Evander
For much of the time that's what happened.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 04:48
by Evander
It seemed predictable.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 05:14
by Diamond WEAPON
gilgamesh wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Anyone that can't see the brilliance in Floyd is blind. He was really uncomfortable for about five minutes then he completely schooled Guerrero. I'm not a Floyd fan, but effing :TU: ; the mans a genius.
I was talking to my friend about that earlier. We were talking about how to possibly beat Floyd and basically what it would be is a fighter would have to come into fights with multiple gameplans, because whatever your plan is, even if it's work and your giving Floyd problems for 2 or 3 rounds, he's going to figure you out and adjust to you, and the only way you're gonna be able to stay in the fight is to adjust too.

There's no ONE way to beat Floyd. You have to have a Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, and Plan D.
Yup. Too many of these guys around his weight class either only fight one way or get stuck fighting one way. Cotto gave him trouble precisely because he kept making Floyd readjust and adapt. He jabbed and danced around Floyd and made Floyd stalk, then he crowded and cut the ring off on him with his weight and power.

Bradley's ability to fight in several styles is why I would give him the best shot of anyone at 147 but his being with TR and being about to face a reawakened beast in Marquez pretty much shutters those ideas.

The guys with styles I could see troubling Mayweather (Gonzalez, Rigondeaux, Mikey Garcia, Mares, and Ward) are nowhere near his weight class.

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 05:20
by Evander
What Gonzalez ... The one fighting Ricky Burns ?

Re: Mayweather/Guerrero and Undercard RBR.

Posted: 05 May 2013, 05:25
by Evander
Mayweather maintains his P4P crown.