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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 07:08
by Tuan_Jim
Everyone seems to have forgotten, perhaps understandably, Klitschko's nine year reign. This is a man who was afraid to take chances against seriously awful opponents - but now he's going to pick apart Anthony Joshua? I'm not hypnotised by the Sky/Hearn hype, but it's obvious Joshua in terms of attitude, fitness and power is leagues above Tony Thompson, Sam Peter, Ruslan Chagaev, and rest of Klitschko's fatty hordes. He was petrified of a Tyson Fury counter, as he was Ibragimov and Haye, but he's going to remain calm and composed with Joshua's fists cocked and ready to fly? It would be very odd for a man to alter his MO this late in his career.

I'm sure his plan is to brilliantly pick apart and punish Joshua, but at 41 versus a man his own size he won't be so evasive and I see him being put to sleep before he can execute any strategy. The number of power shots he throws might be very few.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 07:10
by banjo
£50 pounds on Joshua to end it in 3 or less.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 07:14
by Bard of Boxrec
Tuan_Jim wrote:Everyone seems to have forgotten, perhaps understandably, Klitschko's nine year reign. This is a man who was afraid to take chances against seriously awful opponents - but now he's going to pick apart Anthony Joshua? I'm not hypnotised by the Sky/Hearn hype, but it's obvious Joshua in terms of attitude, fitness and power is leagues above Tony Thompson, Sam Peter, Ruslan Chagaev, and rest of Klitschko's fatty hordes. He was petrified of a Tyson Fury counter, as he was Ibragimov and Haye, but he's going to remain calm and composed with Joshua's fists cocked and ready to fly? It would be very odd for a man to alter his MO this late in his career.

I'm sure his plan is to brilliantly pick apart and punish Joshua, but at 41 versus a man his own size he won't be so evasive and I see him being put to sleep before he can execute any strategy. The number of power shots he throws might be very few.
:TU:

Just wAnt to say thank you to Tyson fury for getting people to bet on wlad. Joshua by stoppage is now a very nice 4/6. Probably just going to go large on the stoppage and use that as a hedge on betting the first few for josh. Maybe first 4.

Also, keep it up on this poll guys :lol: great work!

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 07:16
by Andrew
Tuan_Jim wrote:Everyone seems to have forgotten, perhaps understandably, Klitschko's nine year reign. This is a man who was afraid to take chances against seriously awful opponents - but now he's going to pick apart Anthony Joshua? I'm not hypnotised by the Sky/Hearn hype, but it's obvious Joshua in terms of attitude, fitness and power is leagues above Tony Thompson, Sam Peter, Ruslan Chagaev, and rest of Klitschko's fatty hordes. He was petrified of a Tyson Fury counter, as he was Ibragimov and Haye, but he's going to remain calm and composed with Joshua's fists cocked and ready to fly? It would be very odd for a man to alter his MO this late in his career.

I'm sure his plan is to brilliantly pick apart and punish Joshua, but at 41 versus a man his own size he won't be so evasive and I see him being put to sleep before he can execute any strategy. The number of power shots he throws might be very few.

It's hard to disagree with this.

But then look at who Joshua has fought. His best win is Dillian Whyte who is British level. Went life and death with Delboy who couldn't land a glove on a 2nd gear Tyson Fury.

Wlad could have have 5 years out and dismantled Dillian Whyte in 6 and Vitali could have a 2 month camp right now and do the same.

That's the intrigue no one has a clue. We will know very early I think.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 09:18
by boxingknockout
Naandrew wrote:
Tuan_Jim wrote:Everyone seems to have forgotten, perhaps understandably, Klitschko's nine year reign. This is a man who was afraid to take chances against seriously awful opponents - but now he's going to pick apart Anthony Joshua? I'm not hypnotised by the Sky/Hearn hype, but it's obvious Joshua in terms of attitude, fitness and power is leagues above Tony Thompson, Sam Peter, Ruslan Chagaev, and rest of Klitschko's fatty hordes. He was petrified of a Tyson Fury counter, as he was Ibragimov and Haye, but he's going to remain calm and composed with Joshua's fists cocked and ready to fly? It would be very odd for a man to alter his MO this late in his career.

I'm sure his plan is to brilliantly pick apart and punish Joshua, but at 41 versus a man his own size he won't be so evasive and I see him being put to sleep before he can execute any strategy. The number of power shots he throws might be very few.

It's hard to disagree with this.

But then look at who Joshua has fought. His best win is Dillian Whyte who is British level. Went life and death with Delboy who couldn't land a glove on a 2nd gear Tyson Fury.

Wlad could have have 5 years out and dismantled Dillian Whyte in 6 and Vitali could have a 2 month camp right now and do the same.

That's the intrigue no one has a clue. We will know very early I think.
Good points from both posters. There are als rumours of (as yet) unsubstantiated stories of Joshua having a weak chin.

The stat that really stands out for me though is: Joshua - 44 to rounds (none against a world class opponent.) Wlad - 358 rounds, many more rounds against world class opponents than Joshua has even boxed (58, just counting Povetkin, Fury (albeit a loss), Haye and Peter.)

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 09:30
by Benelio
Counter-puncher wrote:
Benelio wrote: [*]Wlad done 12 rounds at a high pace in the past.
]
really? I must have missed that one.
Haye, Povetkin ... even Jennings and Wach.

Using the Wach fight as an example, he threw an average of 58 punches per round for 12 rounds. In the Jennings fight he threw an average of 45 punches per round over 12 rounds.

In the Breazeale fight, Joshua threw an average of 48 punches per round for just 7 rounds.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 09:34
by boxingknockout
Benelio wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
Benelio wrote: [*]Wlad done 12 rounds at a high pace in the past.
]
really? I must have missed that one.
Haye, Povetkin ... even Jennings and Wach.

Using the Wach fight as an example, he threw an average of 58 punches per round for 12 rounds. In the Jennings fight he threw an average of 45 punches per round over 12 rounds.

In the Breazeale fight, Joshua threw an average of 48 punches per round for just 7 rounds.
Good data gathering! :TU:

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 09:42
by Oiky
Yea Benelio good informative poster :TU:

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 09:44
by Counter-puncher
Benelio wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
Benelio wrote: [*]Wlad done 12 rounds at a high pace in the past.
]
really? I must have missed that one.
Using the Wach fight as an example, he threw an average of 58 punches per round for 12 rounds. In the Jennings fight he threw an average of 45 punches per round over 12 rounds.

In the Breazeale fight, Joshua threw an average of 48 punches per round for just 7 rounds.
Nice one,thanks, I did miss those :TU:

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 10:11
by Tuan_Jim
Benelio wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
Benelio wrote: [*]Wlad done 12 rounds at a high pace in the past.
]
really? I must have missed that one.
Haye, Povetkin ... even Jennings and Wach.

Using the Wach fight as an example, he threw an average of 58 punches per round for 12 rounds. In the Jennings fight he threw an average of 45 punches per round over 12 rounds.

In the Breazeale fight, Joshua threw an average of 48 punches per round for just 7 rounds.
But Breazeale was throwing back, Wach and Jennings weren't. I don't think any of this will have any bearing on tonight.

Also, do you really think he was fighting Povetkin at a fast pace? He initiated something like 300+ holds. He was actively spoling Povetkin's pace, which was hardly Manila in its ferocity.

The only sprightly, fast-paced fights I can recall Wlad engaging in were Puritty, TOS and Brewster, two of which were KO losses, the other a looming KO loss called off just in time.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 10:30
by BitPlayer
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTeOlNXDjRh

Tyson Fury wished good luck to Joshua.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 10:58
by Ezzard
In light of Brezeale's gutsy win over Ugonoh...does anyone think maybe that victory should be upgraded at least a little?

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 10:59
by Oiky
BitPlayer wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/BTeOlNXDjRh

Tyson Fury wished good luck to Joshua.
Fair play :TU:

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 11:18
by jamesmcdonnell
BitPlayer wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/BTeOlNXDjRh

Tyson Fury wished good luck to Joshua.
Is tyson in hospital? He sounds rougg as a badgers tadger.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 11:20
by lefty
banjo wrote:£50 pounds on Joshua to end it in 3 or less.
What odds?

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 11:20
by jamesmcdonnell
Tuan_Jim wrote:Everyone seems to have forgotten, perhaps understandably, Klitschko's nine year reign. This is a man who was afraid to take chances against seriously awful opponents - but now he's going to pick apart Anthony Joshua? I'm not hypnotised by the Sky/Hearn hype, but it's obvious Joshua in terms of attitude, fitness and power is leagues above Tony Thompson, Sam Peter, Ruslan Chagaev, and rest of Klitschko's fatty hordes. He was petrified of a Tyson Fury counter, as he was Ibragimov and Haye, but he's going to remain calm and composed with Joshua's fists cocked and ready to fly? It would be very odd for a man to alter his MO this late in his career.

I'm sure his plan is to brilliantly pick apart and punish Joshua, but at 41 versus a man his own size he won't be so evasive and I see him being put to sleep before he can execute any strategy. The number of power shots he throws might be very few.
Terrified if haye??

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 11:21
by Bard of Boxrec
How on earth was haye/wlad a fast pace? They stared at each other for 12. Wlad sucked slightly less.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 11:27
by lefty
The last time I can really remember Wlad going at a high pace was the first Brewster fight, and Wlad gassed out. I cant even remember how many years ago that was now either.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 11:33
by Bard of Boxrec
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/BTeOlNXDjRh

Tyson Fury wished good luck to Joshua.
Is tyson in hospital? He sounds rougg as a badgers tadger.
Seems just as mentally unstable as ever too - "do the business on that Ukrainian prick!

Then, "good luck boys, may the best man win!"

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 11:37
by lefty
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/BTeOlNXDjRh

Tyson Fury wished good luck to Joshua.
Is tyson in hospital? He sounds rougg as a badgers tadger.
Ive heard him sound like that before. I dont know if he's got something wrong with his vocal cords. Should probably get it looked at.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 11:48
by jamesmcdonnell
IT wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/BTeOlNXDjRh

Tyson Fury wished good luck to Joshua.
Is tyson in hospital? He sounds rougg as a badgers tadger.
Ive heard him sound like that before. I dont know if he's got something wrong with his vocal cords. Should probably get it looked at.
Looked like a hospital bed to me.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 11:49
by Tanzio
IT wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/BTeOlNXDjRh

Tyson Fury wished good luck to Joshua.
Is tyson in hospital? He sounds rougg as a badgers tadger.
Ive heard him sound like that before. I dont know if he's got something wrong with his vocal cords. Should probably get it looked at.
. . . and cut back on the crack.

Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 12:18
by jamesmcdonnell
Tanzio wrote:
IT wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Is tyson in hospital? He sounds rougg as a badgers tadger.
Ive heard him sound like that before. I dont know if he's got something wrong with his vocal cords. Should probably get it looked at.
. . . and cut back on the crack.
First thing i thought. Ive known a few rock heads and they all have that gravelly dry voice.

Re: Round-By-Round - Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 13:01
by wesshaw1985
PPV due to start anytime now...

Re: Round-By-Round - Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko - April 29th 2017

Posted: 29 Apr 2017, 13:02
by Boxerbeetle
wesshaw1985 wrote:PPV due to start anytime now...
Start a new thread ffs, there's already 14 pages on this one :witzend: :doh: