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Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:49
by diddy
Deep down, euros LOVE the controversial stoppage because it gives them a fake crutch and takes away from the fact that Kovalev was surely on his way to defeat. If thats a standing 8 count hes down 3 points on 2 cards heading into Round 9 in a fight where he was gassing badly. He was done. Stop with this nonsense. And this coming from a guy who started THIS thread stating he bet on Kovalev. I'm just being realistic.

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:50
by Best Coast
armageto wrote:
Blodhemn wrote:
armageto wrote:What was your card? I gather most range from 4-3 Ward to 4-3 Kovalev. In all honesty, I get sick of some of these idiots complaining about every US or black fighter, they know who they are. So no matter who won, I was a winner. Happy if Kovalev won for more excitement in the division or happy if Ward won so these idiots could shut the Hell up. Unfortunately, they still think Kovalev would have stormed back, dead tired, to secure a KO.

Case in point, I wanted Wlad to beat Joshua. Yet I still picked Joshua to win. Just because I root for one guy, doesn't mean I think he will win. Or not give him his props after a win.
But the "idiots" were right. I was getting sick of reading the prefight excuses, but they all turned out to be true. Posting a resounding "Haaaaa." doesn't look any more unbias than listening to RJJ commentate.

I scored it 5-2 Kovalev, giving Ward the opening round, which also could've gone to Kovalev. 4-3 Ward is off.
To each their own sir. I could see 4-3 Kovalev, I just think 5-2 is too high. What were the official scores, if given?
Someone said 2 judges had Ward up by 1 and another had Kovalev by 3.

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:50
by Maxime

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:50
by Leatherface
Deep down, euros LOVE the controversial stoppage because it gives them a fake crutch and takes away from the fact that Kovalev was surely on his way to defeat. If thats a standing 8 count hes down 3 points on 2 cards heading into Round 9 in a fight where he was gassing badly. He was done. Stop with this nonsense.
haha great way to stereotype people..

now reverse that and lets see who's thinking the Shots were legit?

hahah :clap:

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:50
by IKSRTFO
Leatherface wrote:
He wasn't getting wobbled by headshots in the first fight.
haha now it's multiple wobbles- idiot

dude took absolute best punch Andre has ever landed, and was still standing
And Ward took Kovalev best shots and won the fight.

Kovalev's not the destroyer everyone makes him out to be. FACE IT...FACE IT

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:51
by victor-romeo
diddy wrote:Deep down, euros LOVE the controversial stoppage because it gives them a fake crutch and takes away from the fact that Kovalev was surely on his way to defeat. If thats a standing 8 count hes down 3 points on 2 cards heading into Round 9 in a fight where he was gassing badly. He was done. Stop with this nonsense. And this coming from a guy who started THIS thread stating he bet on Kovalev. I'm just being realistic.
Do you think Kovalev got a fair deal in both these fights?

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:51
by greg
Best Coast wrote: Agreed! Kovalev was up on the cards but was fading fast and likely would not have made it past the 9th, even if he had been given a standing 8 count instead of the stoppage.
we'll never know it, what we know is that the fight was stopped right after Kovalev was repeatedly hit in the bollocks..

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:52
by Leatherface
And Ward took Kovalev best shots and won the fight.

Kovalev's not the destroyer everyone makes him out to be. FACE IT...FACE IT

and i called you an idiot, who made up MULTIPLE "headshots"


and you accepted it

SO FACE IT , FACE IT

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:52
by ValMar
I want to see Ward at CW, destroyed by Usyk or Briedis. I really want to see him KO'd. His dirty style has been killing boxing for years.
Kovalev passed his prime, I wrote about that last year, on this forum, and almost noone agreed with me.

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:53
by diddy
victor-romeo wrote:
diddy wrote:Deep down, euros LOVE the controversial stoppage because it gives them a fake crutch and takes away from the fact that Kovalev was surely on his way to defeat. If thats a standing 8 count hes down 3 points on 2 cards heading into Round 9 in a fight where he was gassing badly. He was done. Stop with this nonsense. And this coming from a guy who started THIS thread stating he bet on Kovalev. I'm just being realistic.
Do you think Kovalev got a fair deal in both these fights?
I had Kovalev winning the first fight by a point. Close fight. Not a robbery.

I had Kovalev AHEAD slightly tonight as well but could how badly he was fading.

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:53
by victor-romeo
all you can say to that video is wow..

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:53
by IKSRTFO
Leatherface wrote:
And Ward took Kovalev best shots and won the fight.

Kovalev's not the destroyer everyone makes him out to be. FACE IT...FACE IT

and i called you an idiot, who made up MULTIPLE "headshots"


and you accepted it

SO FACE IT , FACE IT
Ward TKO Kovalev

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:54
by greg
if that doesn't qualify for stoppage, I don't know what does :stop:

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:54
by Best Coast
diddy wrote:Deep down, euros LOVE the controversial stoppage because it gives them a fake crutch and takes away from the fact that Kovalev was surely on his way to defeat. If thats a standing 8 count hes down 3 points on 2 cards heading into Round 9 in a fight where he was gassing badly. He was done. Stop with this nonsense. And this coming from a guy who started THIS thread stating he bet on Kovalev. I'm just being realistic.
You're right. Ward was up on 2 cards by 1 point & the 10-8 round would have given him an insurmountable lead because Kovalev was fading fast and was far too faded to close that gap, even if he lasted the full 12 (which is highly unlikely).

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:54
by victor-romeo
diddy wrote:
victor-romeo wrote:
diddy wrote:Deep down, euros LOVE the controversial stoppage because it gives them a fake crutch and takes away from the fact that Kovalev was surely on his way to defeat. If thats a standing 8 count hes down 3 points on 2 cards heading into Round 9 in a fight where he was gassing badly. He was done. Stop with this nonsense. And this coming from a guy who started THIS thread stating he bet on Kovalev. I'm just being realistic.
Do you think Kovalev got a fair deal in both these fights?
I had Kovalev winning the first fight by a point. Close fight. Not a robbery.

I had Kovalev AHEAD slightly tonight as well but could how badly he was fading.
Ok, thats honest , but do you think there was bias by judges first fight or weeks second fight?

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:54
by Impractical Poster
People are pissed off in here!

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:54
by Leatherface
I had Kovalev AHEAD slightly tonight as well but could how badly he was fading.
fading so bad, he won the previous 2 rounds leading up to the final

yeah , makes sense

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:54
by armageto
Best Coast wrote:
armageto wrote:
Blodhemn wrote: But the "idiots" were right. I was getting sick of reading the prefight excuses, but they all turned out to be true. Posting a resounding "Haaaaa." doesn't look any more unbias than listening to RJJ commentate.

I scored it 5-2 Kovalev, giving Ward the opening round, which also could've gone to Kovalev. 4-3 Ward is off.
To each their own sir. I could see 4-3 Kovalev, I just think 5-2 is too high. What were the official scores, if given?
Someone said 2 judges had Ward up by 1 and another had Kovalev by 3.

Well, at least I'm not alone in Ward by one. Blodhemn had the Kovalev scorecard, so I guess we were both accurate!

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:56
by IKSRTFO
Ya'll on this board more hurt by the stoppage than Kovalev is. Kovalev looked unsure if he even wanted a rematch.

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:56
by gilgamesh
I had it 4-3 Kovalev at the time of the stoppage. Ward was DEFINITELY winning the 8th however so it was about to be even if not for the f*cky stoppage.

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:56
by Leatherface
People are pissed off in here!
after the first controversy of the night boxing looked stupid

after 2 back to back-- black eye for the sport

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:57
by victor-romeo
IKSRTFO wrote:Ya'll on this board more hurt by the stoppage than Kovalev is. Kovalev looked unsure if he even wanted a rematch.
He had just been punched in the head once hard and the nuts 3 or 4 times, english was his second language he didn't know what the fk to say..

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:57
by armageto
Leatherface wrote:
I had Kovalev AHEAD slightly tonight as well but could how badly he was fading.
fading so bad, he won the previous 2 rounds leading up to the final

yeah , makes sense
I didn't think Kovalev won the previous 2 rounds. By the looks of him, it seemed he was fading. Most of the fight he seemed a bit slower and lethargic from the first fight. Which he faded in too and vowed he corrected.

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:57
by Leatherface
Kovalev looked unsure if he even wanted a rematch.
not sure if you even watched the fight

he said in ring and at press conference he wanted a third fight

Re: Ward vs Kovalev 2 RBR Discussion

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 00:58
by Leatherface
I didn't think Kovalev won the previous 2 rounds. By the looks of him, it seemed he was fading. Most of the fight he seemed a bit slower and lethargic from the first fight. Which he faded in too and vowed he corrected.
you gave Ward the 5th and 6th?

Now I've really heard everything