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Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 02:25
by Andrew

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 02:27
by mickey1975
It is on YouTube, can't see the logic in it. But Meaty Mick had Froch on streams and prime time for years... I've always backed Peter, but he's looking daft in all this.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 02:37
by Andrew
mickey1975 wrote:It is on YouTube, can't see the logic in it. But Meaty Mick had Froch on streams and prime time for years... I've always backed Peter, but he's looking daft in all this.
I think YouTube for fights is actually a great idea if you can get it to work financially.

Not right for this certainly not PPV.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 02:50
by nitro5912
Naandrew wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:It is on YouTube, can't see the logic in it. But Meaty Mick had Froch on streams and prime time for years... I've always backed Peter, but he's looking daft in all this.
I think YouTube for fights is actually a great idea if you can get it to work financially.

Not right for this certainly not PPV.
It can work for big names, potentially as an alternative to sky PPV for example.

But for this, it will flop. Just look at the replies to the hennesy tweet.

Itv 4 showing the world series of boxing for free or this fight on youtube.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 02:58
by dirk2686
What if you don't have a smart tv? Are you then forced to watch it on a laptop?

Why can't Hennessy just do a cheap deal with a free to air channel? Haye sticking fights on Dave was a good move really. Hughie isn't anywhere near PPV standard.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 03:14
by crusader
so was peter loling at us because they got it on youtube? or am i missing something?

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 03:14
by watsupdoc87
Surprised nobody tried this before. Could be a flop or a huge success long-term. :bag:

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 03:16
by mattienelsen12
watsupdoc87 wrote:Surprised nobody tried this before. Could be a flop or a huge success long-term. :bag:
Bellator did in the Uk for their PPV, it was a HUGE flop, literally around 3K people were watching it.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 03:18
by watsupdoc87
mattienelsen12 wrote:
watsupdoc87 wrote:Surprised nobody tried this before. Could be a flop or a huge success long-term. :bag:
Bellator did in the Uk for their PPV, it was a HUGE flop, literally around 3K people were watching it.
I mean on a consistent basis and take a few initial losses before it could and I mean could take off :bag:

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 03:48
by Boxerbeetle
They can't even generate enough interest to come close to selling out the venue, so not sure why they think there's going to be any interest in PPV. Fvcking amateurs.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 03:56
by KiwiRider
:brick:

What the F.
At least Parker has his pay in escrow already.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 04:04
by adamwillan
But think about the marketing power they will have through YouTube. I'm assuming YouTube will be able to advertise the show to anyone who watches boxing/sport or whatever.

Depends if YouTube are behind it or is just a platform for Hennessey.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 04:09
by sweetscience
embarrasing.... blind loyalty / stupidity not sure which

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 04:09
by Boxerbeetle
adamwillan wrote:But think about the marketing power they will have through YouTube. I'm assuming YouTube will be able to advertise the show to anyone who watches boxing/sport or whatever.

Depends if YouTube are behind it or is just a platform for Hennessey.
YouTube won't give a toss about it, I doubt they have any involvement at all apart from providing the platform.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 05:10
by adamwillan
Boxerbeetle wrote:
adamwillan wrote:But think about the marketing power they will have through YouTube. I'm assuming YouTube will be able to advertise the show to anyone who watches boxing/sport or whatever.

Depends if YouTube are behind it or is just a platform for Hennessey.
YouTube won't give a toss about it, I doubt they have any involvement at all apart from providing the platform.
Which would mean this will go very badly. ITV and SBO have proven they make it work by being able to shove the product down casuals faces at every opportunity.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 05:16
by JimJim2009
I imagine this is pure desperation. If it was a viable option he should have gone with it from the start. Bottom line is he can't get it on TV.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 05:16
by adamwillan
sweetscience wrote:embarrasing.... blind loyalty / stupidity not sure which
If that is in relation to me don't talk nonsense. YouTube will have more users than any tv station, massive marketing power if used correctly. Didn't suggest that they would.

And blind loyalty to Hennessey, seriously....

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 05:38
by Mark Lloyd
JimJim2009 wrote:I imagine this is pure desperation. If it was a viable option he should have gone with it from the start. Bottom line is he can't get it on TV.
Spot on. I realise that Hennessey is useless but a salesman needs a product and sadly Hughie just isn't an easy product to sell. He is a seemingly skilful but dull boxer with no punch or personality. He is certainly not the flag bearer for new media. This is more ground swallowingly embarrassing than ground breaking and no broadcaster wants to take the risk that either the fight is called off or possibly even worse that the fight happens and is extremely dull.

Some women with stalkers have more followers than Hughie Fury and this will be a new low for PPV sport.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 06:38
by sweetscience
adamwillan wrote:
sweetscience wrote:embarrasing.... blind loyalty / stupidity not sure which
If that is in relation to me don't talk nonsense. YouTube will have more users than any tv station, massive marketing power if used correctly. Didn't suggest that they would.

And blind loyalty to Hennessey, seriously....
no it was directed at Fury :doh:

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 07:11
by veriton
poor Mick, you really wouldn't want to be him right now...must be tearing his hair out.

next thing you know, he'll be putting a wig on, tucking his todger between his legs and calling himself Michaela

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 07:30
by Mimmy
Will rhis be free to watch on youtube as im not familiar with a paying youtube channel.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 07:31
by sweetscience
mimmy123 wrote:Will rhis be free to watch on youtube as im not familiar with a paying youtube channel.
its a tenner

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 08:30
by bripez
sweetscience wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Will rhis be free to watch on youtube as im not familiar with a paying youtube channel.
its a tenner
I thought it was a good idea till I got to the bit that they would be charging!

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 08:41
by jameswilson
Mark Lloyd wrote:
JimJim2009 wrote:I imagine this is pure desperation. If it was a viable option he should have gone with it from the start. Bottom line is he can't get it on TV.
Spot on. I realise that Hennessey is useless but a salesman needs a product and sadly Hughie just isn't an easy product to sell. He is a seemingly skilful but dull boxer with no punch or personality. He is certainly not the flag bearer for new media. This is more ground swallowingly embarrassing than ground breaking and no broadcaster wants to take the risk that either the fight is called off or possibly even worse that the fight happens and is extremely dull.

Some women with stalkers have more followers than Hughie Fury and this will be a new low for PPV sport.
Hennessy at one point had Carl Froch who had just won the WBC title against Jean Pascal in an entertaining fight live on ITV 1 on a Saturday night. And after that he couldn't sort proper TV deals out for his fights against Taylor and Kessler etc. Taylor was shown a day later on ITV 4 and Kessler on Primetime. How in gods name can you not get ITV, Sky, Channel 5 etc etc etc to not pick fights like that up.

I reckon if Hennessy was given a cure for all the diseases in the World he could be sent into a hospital and fail to sell it.

Re: Is the Fury v Parker going to be a hard sell?

Posted: 05 Sep 2017, 08:47
by Mimmy
sweetscience wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Will rhis be free to watch on youtube as im not familiar with a paying youtube channel.
its a tenner
A chuffin tenner for an easy piratable stream. My god.