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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:50
by jamamb
well i would say fury and wilder should both beat ruiz handily, but then again thats what we all thouht about aj and hed already beaten guys seemingly better then ruiz
crazy sh!t can happen
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:51
by boxing_rocks
oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:45
Yeah, I think AJ was exposed more than Ruiz is now some world beater. We've seen enough of Ruiz to know what he is about. AJ is sort of an enigma right now for me. I don't know what to make of him just yet. He's way more vulnerable than people thought.
Wilder was exposed multiple times. Can Fury handle pressure of a hungry fast opponent for 12 rounds?
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:51
by Neil Gee
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:47
Fury would be running and jabbing, but Ruiz is fast enough to get inside where he has chances.
Fury's a lot slippier and defensively cuter than AJ is
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:51
by sturm vogel
SenorPipino wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:39
After he was knocked down again in the 7th, Joshua checked out mentally.
His confidence was shot and you could look at his face and see he was thinking "no mas."
Joshua dug down deep against Klitschko when he encountered adversity but he couldn't pass a gut check tonight.
I wonder if he can regain that confidence in the future or if Ruiz ruined him.
Saw the same thing you did. He came in looking bored and calm, and showed a lack of will to win.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:53
by oogiebe
diddy wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:48
People are going to go nuts over a result but need to evaluate the events that took place to get there. This wasnt Ruiz exposing Joshua over the course of the fight. This was AJ recklessly endangering himself by getting in extended wild exchanges in order to secure a KO, in turn eating a massive shot that would turn the fight upside down and he would never recover from. It took his legs away immediately. Thats what can happen to your body when you dont take an opponent seriously in training. He may look like Adonis but I seriously doubt his cardio was on point in this camp. Against fighters he respects AJ is never getting that reckless and putting himself in such a dangerous position. Understand this.
Don't kid yourself. AJ exposed his chin, which isn't very good. He also has no idea what to do when he's hurt. Ruiz isn't such a massive hitter. It was a combination of several things this evening. Go back and watch. He didn't eat any one massive shot. He got stunned and then got hit over and over again. Stunned by a punch no greater than what Ruiz hit Parker with or many other of his opponents. The myth is simply busted. Long live the king.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:54
by boxing_rocks
Neil Gee wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:51
Fury's a lot slippier and defensively cuter than AJ is
Can he slip for 12 rounds under pressure?
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:54
by sturm vogel
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:51
Wilder was exposed multiple times. Can Fury handle pressure of a hungry fast opponent for 12 rounds?
Fury already proved he can. With his deep war chest of skills, his albatross reach, and his invincible will, Ruiz would get banged and turned and dizzy for 12 rounds.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:55
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:55
by jamamb
who is the king
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:55
by TheBeast
i have never seen someone take a loss so well, props to him... again i think th pressure being lifted off him with that loss will help him now
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:55
by jamamb
aj never got a gift in his pro career
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:56
by punchoutsb
jamamb wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:55
who is the king
Fury always was.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:56
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:55
who is the king
For the next few days it's Ruiz. He beat the man tonight. Then all the threads will turn to what's next.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:57
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:57
by dagilechia
Fury's #1 to me now though
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:58
by SenorPipino
It looks like some of the British fans are a wee bit salty over the unhappy ending.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:58
by Neil Gee
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:54
Can he slip for 12 rounds under pressure?
Even if he doesn't look at the way he got up against Wilder, his chin is better than AJs
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:58
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:59
by ironbeard
jamamb wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:55
who is the king
Ruiz Jr. is the king, period.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 01 Jun 2019, 23:59
by Evander
I declare a national day of mourning.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 00:00
by SenorPipino
Was there an automatic rematch clause in the contract in the event of a Ruiz win?
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 00:01
by Evander
Joshua seems to reckon there was.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 00:01
by oogiebe
SenorPipino wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 00:00
Was there an automatic rematch clause in the contract in the event of a Ruiz win?
Good question. I would think the champ always gets the rematch clause. And is it immediate, or can Ruiz fight someone else first.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 00:02
by punchoutsb
ironbeard wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019, 23:59
Ruiz Jr. is the king, period.
Is Parker the emperor then?
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. - June 1, 2019
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 00:02
by SenorPipino
Evander wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 00:01
Joshua seems to reckon there was.
He better ask Hearn if he's uncertain. If he's still on speaking terms with his promoter.