Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now
Posted: 23 Nov 2020, 16:05
Find English a hard listen. It’s normally him fawning over ex crims
Find English a hard listen. It’s normally him fawning over ex crims
Did Schumacher ever fight John Beckles in the ams?bennie wrote: ↑13 Nov 2020, 06:46Controversial wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 09:04 I just listened to the Brian Schumacher one, interesting life but couldn’t help think that as nice a guy as he likes to portray himself as, there is no smoke without fire. Either that or he was just very unlucky.
I remember Brian as a bubbly life and soul type who wanted everyone to be happy and those types struggle to deal with the wrong 'uns and are capable of lashing out. Brian certainly never played up as an exciting amateur. He was always a bit chinny but you couldn't keep him down and he won plenty more than he lost, including a big win over Henry Maske in an international at Milton Keynes in 1983. There was talk of him going for the ABA title record of six when he came back from the Olympics a year later (he had two) but next thing he was pro with F rank Warren and looking good. (John Lyon later won eight ABA titles.)
Brian had height and reach, a fair dig and plenty of boxing skill but he loved a tear-up and that left him vulnerable. Johnny Nelson had him down in an eight-rounder in 1987, although Brian climbed up to win on points in the days when Nelson was too nervous to follow up, and his chin let him down again in two wars with former Olympic teammate Tony Wilson for the British light-heavyweight title and he began the climb down.
I had the misfortune to witness his very last fight in Birmingham in June 1990 against local man John Foreman. As Foreman was applying the finishing touches in the fourth round, I could see Schumacher talking to him, a Scouse wit to the very end. (Foreman then sneered dismissively at ringsider Roy Skeldon, who was giving him the thumbs up for his display, prompting Roy to label Foreman "a wanker" on local radio and he stopped him when they fought three months later.)
Like most boxers, Brian struggled with life after his career ended and the bubbly personality has long gone but his boxing career was never dull and well done to Tris Dixon for giving him the time.
Great rapport and an interesting mix of people. And it’s been every week for the past 2 yearsmargaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020, 23:45 what makes tris so much better than the other guys who interview the same boxers?
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020, 18:30Did Schumacher ever fight John Beckles in the ams?bennie wrote: ↑13 Nov 2020, 06:46Controversial wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 09:04 I just listened to the Brian Schumacher one, interesting life but couldn’t help think that as nice a guy as he likes to portray himself as, there is no smoke without fire. Either that or he was just very unlucky.
I remember Brian as a bubbly life and soul type who wanted everyone to be happy and those types struggle to deal with the wrong 'uns and are capable of lashing out. Brian certainly never played up as an exciting amateur. He was always a bit chinny but you couldn't keep him down and he won plenty more than he lost, including a big win over Henry Maske in an international at Milton Keynes in 1983. There was talk of him going for the ABA title record of six when he came back from the Olympics a year later (he had two) but next thing he was pro with F rank Warren and looking good. (John Lyon later won eight ABA titles.)
Brian had height and reach, a fair dig and plenty of boxing skill but he loved a tear-up and that left him vulnerable. Johnny Nelson had him down in an eight-rounder in 1987, although Brian climbed up to win on points in the days when Nelson was too nervous to follow up, and his chin let him down again in two wars with former Olympic teammate Tony Wilson for the British light-heavyweight title and he began the climb down.
I had the misfortune to witness his very last fight in Birmingham in June 1990 against local man John Foreman. As Foreman was applying the finishing touches in the fourth round, I could see Schumacher talking to him, a Scouse wit to the very end. (Foreman then sneered dismissively at ringsider Roy Skeldon, who was giving him the thumbs up for his display, prompting Roy to label Foreman "a wanker" on local radio and he stopped him when they fought three months later.)
Like most boxers, Brian struggled with life after his career ended and the bubbly personality has long gone but his boxing career was never dull and well done to Tris Dixon for giving him the time.
Would like to of seen him v Mike Watson in 84.
Beckles v Schumacher, Douglas or Benn would've been immense but just missedbennie wrote: ↑24 Nov 2020, 06:37coghaugen11 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020, 18:30Did Schumacher ever fight John Beckles in the ams?bennie wrote: ↑13 Nov 2020, 06:46
I remember Brian as a bubbly life and soul type who wanted everyone to be happy and those types struggle to deal with the wrong 'uns and are capable of lashing out. Brian certainly never played up as an exciting amateur. He was always a bit chinny but you couldn't keep him down and he won plenty more than he lost, including a big win over Henry Maske in an international at Milton Keynes in 1983. There was talk of him going for the ABA title record of six when he came back from the Olympics a year later (he had two) but next thing he was pro with F rank Warren and looking good. (John Lyon later won eight ABA titles.)
Brian had height and reach, a fair dig and plenty of boxing skill but he loved a tear-up and that left him vulnerable. Johnny Nelson had him down in an eight-rounder in 1987, although Brian climbed up to win on points in the days when Nelson was too nervous to follow up, and his chin let him down again in two wars with former Olympic teammate Tony Wilson for the British light-heavyweight title and he began the climb down.
I had the misfortune to witness his very last fight in Birmingham in June 1990 against local man John Foreman. As Foreman was applying the finishing touches in the fourth round, I could see Schumacher talking to him, a Scouse wit to the very end. (Foreman then sneered dismissively at ringsider Roy Skeldon, who was giving him the thumbs up for his display, prompting Roy to label Foreman "a wanker" on local radio and he stopped him when they fought three months later.)
Like most boxers, Brian struggled with life after his career ended and the bubbly personality has long gone but his boxing career was never dull and well done to Tris Dixon for giving him the time.
Would like to of seen him v Mike Watson in 84.
No, they never met. Beckles entered the ABA championships for the first time in 1983 at light-heavyweight. A year later, he did drop down to middleweight (Schumacher's weight) but ran into Michael Watson in the London semi-finals and was counted out on his feet in the first round. In 1985, Beckles was back up to light-heavyweight and stayed there for the remainder of his amateur career, winning a brace of ABA titles.
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2020, 12:51 Beckles was doing well internationally beating Russians in Russia and Steve Collins in Dublin
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2020, 12:50Beckles v Schumacher, Douglas or Benn would've been immense but just missedbennie wrote: ↑24 Nov 2020, 06:37coghaugen11 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2020, 18:30
Did Schumacher ever fight John Beckles in the ams?
Would like to of seen him v Mike Watson in 84.
No, they never met. Beckles entered the ABA championships for the first time in 1983 at light-heavyweight. A year later, he did drop down to middleweight (Schumacher's weight) but ran into Michael Watson in the London semi-finals and was counted out on his feet in the first round. In 1985, Beckles was back up to light-heavyweight and stayed there for the remainder of his amateur career, winning a brace of ABA titles.
Or Watson v Schumacher or Douglas
So he says. I’m sure Groves tells a different story.THEBUTCH wrote: ↑25 Nov 2020, 05:28 Another enjoyable Pod to listen to with the Paddy Fitzpatrick interview.
Lots of interesting boxing stories and I'd always thought it was Groves who ditched Paddy, however, it was Paddy who contacted George to say they'd gone as far as they can together after the Badou Jack fight
Stanny Onis wrote: ↑25 Nov 2020, 17:30 They are too long imo, most are 2 hours.
About 45 mins would be perfect me