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Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 23 Nov 2020, 16:05
by high tower 1
mickey1975 wrote: 22 Nov 2020, 13:48 Josh Warrington on James English podcast is good.
Find English a hard listen. It’s normally him fawning over ex crims

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 23 Nov 2020, 18:30
by coghaugen11
bennie wrote: 13 Nov 2020, 06:46
Controversial wrote: 12 Nov 2020, 09:04 I just listened to the Brian Schumacher one, interesting life but couldn’t help think that as nice a guy as he likes to portray himself as, there is no smoke without fire. Either that or he was just very unlucky.

I remember Brian as a bubbly life and soul type who wanted everyone to be happy and those types struggle to deal with the wrong 'uns and are capable of lashing out. Brian certainly never played up as an exciting amateur. He was always a bit chinny but you couldn't keep him down and he won plenty more than he lost, including a big win over Henry Maske in an international at Milton Keynes in 1983. There was talk of him going for the ABA title record of six when he came back from the Olympics a year later (he had two) but next thing he was pro with F rank Warren and looking good. (John Lyon later won eight ABA titles.)
Brian had height and reach, a fair dig and plenty of boxing skill but he loved a tear-up and that left him vulnerable. Johnny Nelson had him down in an eight-rounder in 1987, although Brian climbed up to win on points in the days when Nelson was too nervous to follow up, and his chin let him down again in two wars with former Olympic teammate Tony Wilson for the British light-heavyweight title and he began the climb down.
I had the misfortune to witness his very last fight in Birmingham in June 1990 against local man John Foreman. As Foreman was applying the finishing touches in the fourth round, I could see Schumacher talking to him, a Scouse wit to the very end. (Foreman then sneered dismissively at ringsider Roy Skeldon, who was giving him the thumbs up for his display, prompting Roy to label Foreman "a wanker" on local radio and he stopped him when they fought three months later.)
Like most boxers, Brian struggled with life after his career ended and the bubbly personality has long gone but his boxing career was never dull and well done to Tris Dixon for giving him the time.
Did Schumacher ever fight John Beckles in the ams?

Would like to of seen him v Mike Watson in 84.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 23 Nov 2020, 23:45
by margaret thatcher
what makes tris so much better than the other guys who interview the same boxers?

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 03:50
by high tower 1
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Nov 2020, 23:45 what makes tris so much better than the other guys who interview the same boxers?
Great rapport and an interesting mix of people. And it’s been every week for the past 2 years

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 06:16
by Coco
He lets them talk

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 06:25
by mickey1975
Coco wrote: 24 Nov 2020, 06:16 He lets them talk
That’s his strong point. Seems so simple as well.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 06:37
by bennie
coghaugen11 wrote: 23 Nov 2020, 18:30
bennie wrote: 13 Nov 2020, 06:46
Controversial wrote: 12 Nov 2020, 09:04 I just listened to the Brian Schumacher one, interesting life but couldn’t help think that as nice a guy as he likes to portray himself as, there is no smoke without fire. Either that or he was just very unlucky.

I remember Brian as a bubbly life and soul type who wanted everyone to be happy and those types struggle to deal with the wrong 'uns and are capable of lashing out. Brian certainly never played up as an exciting amateur. He was always a bit chinny but you couldn't keep him down and he won plenty more than he lost, including a big win over Henry Maske in an international at Milton Keynes in 1983. There was talk of him going for the ABA title record of six when he came back from the Olympics a year later (he had two) but next thing he was pro with F rank Warren and looking good. (John Lyon later won eight ABA titles.)
Brian had height and reach, a fair dig and plenty of boxing skill but he loved a tear-up and that left him vulnerable. Johnny Nelson had him down in an eight-rounder in 1987, although Brian climbed up to win on points in the days when Nelson was too nervous to follow up, and his chin let him down again in two wars with former Olympic teammate Tony Wilson for the British light-heavyweight title and he began the climb down.
I had the misfortune to witness his very last fight in Birmingham in June 1990 against local man John Foreman. As Foreman was applying the finishing touches in the fourth round, I could see Schumacher talking to him, a Scouse wit to the very end. (Foreman then sneered dismissively at ringsider Roy Skeldon, who was giving him the thumbs up for his display, prompting Roy to label Foreman "a wanker" on local radio and he stopped him when they fought three months later.)
Like most boxers, Brian struggled with life after his career ended and the bubbly personality has long gone but his boxing career was never dull and well done to Tris Dixon for giving him the time.
Did Schumacher ever fight John Beckles in the ams?

Would like to of seen him v Mike Watson in 84.

No, they never met. Beckles entered the ABA championships for the first time in 1983 at light-heavyweight. A year later, he did drop down to middleweight (Schumacher's weight) but ran into Michael Watson in the London semi-finals and was counted out on his feet in the first round. In 1985, Beckles was back up to light-heavyweight and stayed there for the remainder of his amateur career, winning a brace of ABA titles.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 09:21
by JC
The Paddy Fitzpatrick one was good. I think generally trainers are the most interesting guests.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 10:03
by THEBUTCH
Working my way through the Paddy Fitzpatrick interview at the moment. Enjoying it so far.

Going back to why Tris Dixon is particularly good at interviewing, I think it's because he not only lets the guest speak, but he seems to have the knack of getting them to speak....then allowing them to continue to talk. He sets things up really well.

I can't image just anyone being able to get Ronnie Davies to speak as freely as he did and also seemed to be enjoying the interview. I've haven't see that very often with Ronnie, he can be guarded....and I don't blame him.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 12:49
by coghaugen11
Coco wrote: 24 Nov 2020, 06:16 He lets them talk
Unlike, say, Adam Smith. Who will talk over

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 12:50
by coghaugen11
bennie wrote: 24 Nov 2020, 06:37
coghaugen11 wrote: 23 Nov 2020, 18:30
bennie wrote: 13 Nov 2020, 06:46


I remember Brian as a bubbly life and soul type who wanted everyone to be happy and those types struggle to deal with the wrong 'uns and are capable of lashing out. Brian certainly never played up as an exciting amateur. He was always a bit chinny but you couldn't keep him down and he won plenty more than he lost, including a big win over Henry Maske in an international at Milton Keynes in 1983. There was talk of him going for the ABA title record of six when he came back from the Olympics a year later (he had two) but next thing he was pro with F rank Warren and looking good. (John Lyon later won eight ABA titles.)
Brian had height and reach, a fair dig and plenty of boxing skill but he loved a tear-up and that left him vulnerable. Johnny Nelson had him down in an eight-rounder in 1987, although Brian climbed up to win on points in the days when Nelson was too nervous to follow up, and his chin let him down again in two wars with former Olympic teammate Tony Wilson for the British light-heavyweight title and he began the climb down.
I had the misfortune to witness his very last fight in Birmingham in June 1990 against local man John Foreman. As Foreman was applying the finishing touches in the fourth round, I could see Schumacher talking to him, a Scouse wit to the very end. (Foreman then sneered dismissively at ringsider Roy Skeldon, who was giving him the thumbs up for his display, prompting Roy to label Foreman "a wanker" on local radio and he stopped him when they fought three months later.)
Like most boxers, Brian struggled with life after his career ended and the bubbly personality has long gone but his boxing career was never dull and well done to Tris Dixon for giving him the time.
Did Schumacher ever fight John Beckles in the ams?

Would like to of seen him v Mike Watson in 84.

No, they never met. Beckles entered the ABA championships for the first time in 1983 at light-heavyweight. A year later, he did drop down to middleweight (Schumacher's weight) but ran into Michael Watson in the London semi-finals and was counted out on his feet in the first round. In 1985, Beckles was back up to light-heavyweight and stayed there for the remainder of his amateur career, winning a brace of ABA titles.
Beckles v Schumacher, Douglas or Benn would've been immense but just missed

Or Watson v Schumacher or Douglas

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 12:51
by coghaugen11
Beckles was doing well internationally beating Russians in Russia and Steve Collins in Dublin

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 22:14
by bennie
coghaugen11 wrote: 24 Nov 2020, 12:51 Beckles was doing well internationally beating Russians in Russia and Steve Collins in Dublin

Yes, he concentrated on representing England (at under 19 level) and the NABCs, which he won, before entering the ABAs for the first time in 1983. He sparked the likes of Tee Jay and Derek Angol in the ABAs.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 22:16
by bennie
coghaugen11 wrote: 24 Nov 2020, 12:50
bennie wrote: 24 Nov 2020, 06:37
coghaugen11 wrote: 23 Nov 2020, 18:30

Did Schumacher ever fight John Beckles in the ams?

Would like to of seen him v Mike Watson in 84.

No, they never met. Beckles entered the ABA championships for the first time in 1983 at light-heavyweight. A year later, he did drop down to middleweight (Schumacher's weight) but ran into Michael Watson in the London semi-finals and was counted out on his feet in the first round. In 1985, Beckles was back up to light-heavyweight and stayed there for the remainder of his amateur career, winning a brace of ABA titles.
Beckles v Schumacher, Douglas or Benn would've been immense but just missed

Or Watson v Schumacher or Douglas

Benn and Rod Douglas fought twice in the unpaid ranks, with a win apiece.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 05:28
by THEBUTCH
Another enjoyable Pod to listen to with the Paddy Fitzpatrick interview.

Lots of interesting boxing stories and I'd always thought it was Groves who ditched Paddy, however, it was Paddy who contacted George to say they'd gone as far as they can together after the Badou Jack fight

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 05:42
by high tower 1
Who’d want to be a trainer ??

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 05:58
by mickey1975
THEBUTCH wrote: 25 Nov 2020, 05:28 Another enjoyable Pod to listen to with the Paddy Fitzpatrick interview.

Lots of interesting boxing stories and I'd always thought it was Groves who ditched Paddy, however, it was Paddy who contacted George to say they'd gone as far as they can together after the Badou Jack fight
So he says. I’m sure Groves tells a different story.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 07:24
by Controversial
I started the Sugar Hill Steward one last night, hardly Mr Personality is he, what do you remember about your time as a police officer 'I can't really remember', any dangerous situations as an officer 'I can't remember', do you have any good Kronk gym sparring war stories. 'I can't really remember', who did you see training at Kronk 'I can't really remember', where does the nickname Sugar come from 'my grandmother, she gave us all nicknames' what was Mannys 'I don't know' :roll: :lol:

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 17:22
by THEBUTCH
Some pods on the list I just wouldn't even bother with and that would be one of them. Emmanuel Steward he ain't!

Dodson, Smith and Bellew I'll skip and a few others, but there's so many quality interviews to get through.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 17:28
by THEBUTCH
mickey1975, whenever I've heard Groves on the Buncey & Costello pods and they've touched on this I've always come away with the impression that it was George who terminated the partnership.

Paddy mentioned he sent Groves a text to congratulate him after he beat Chudinov....but didn't hear back.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 17:30
by Stanny Onis
They are too long imo, most are 2 hours.

About 45 mins would be perfect for me

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 17:39
by Controversial
Stanny Onis wrote: 25 Nov 2020, 17:30 They are too long imo, most are 2 hours.

About 45 mins would be perfect me

Just listen in stages, I put them on when walking to station or play in car and then go back to them

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 17:49
by mickey1975
Smigga one is good.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 03 Dec 2020, 19:20
by Deserter
Three hour interview with George Groves is simply brilliant. Best one yet IMO. I know he divides opinion on this forum but his insights and honesty make this absolute gold. Essential listening if you're a boxing fan IMO.

Re: Boxing Life Stories - I'm calling it now

Posted: 03 Dec 2020, 21:22
by king_cham
Groves one is very good, Richard Towers episodes were excellent as well. Tris has natural ability with interviewing