Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

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[margaret thatcher]

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[maverick23]

Macklin was picking it up to be fair, I thought he kept trying to steer Smith into noticing all the work Ava was doing, but Smith just plowed on with saying how amazing Kelly was doing.

I was watching the Dazn coverage and it was very poor.

Sky weren’t any better.

I thought Sky were fine tonight. Macklin read the fights fairly well and whilst Smith will never be a great commentator, he wasn’t too bad tonight.

Only criticism was them not giving Charlton as much credit as they should have done.

[joshj909]

Have to say Kelly is unlucky getting two cuts from an elbow and a clash of heads. It's unclear how much they affected him but the body shots definitely took their toll.

[brilo33]

Have to say Kelly is unlucky getting two cuts from an elbow and a clash of heads. It's unclear how much they affected him but the body shots definitely took their toll.

nasty cut on the back of the head. that amount of blood pouring down your shoulder does effect you no doubt about it, looked horrible

[samwbr]

Conor Benn sells a fight doesn't he !

He is creating a myth of his own career to date tonight.

[margaret thatcher]

the cut was in a weird place no doubt. funny cuz gavin gwyne had one literally on the back of his head the other night

those ones around the head seem to bleed a lot, although on the positive side they dont go into your eye

[Coco]

Tough to see Kelly coming back from this, devastating result really.

Good corner work from Booth stopping him getting beat up, but unless the Englishman can significantly improve at a higher weight it's tough to see him at above domestic standard.

[garethhop]

Conor Benn sells a fight doesn't he !

He is creating a myth of his own career to date tonight.

Didnt he say that Jamoye was a world champion?

[brilo33]

the cut was in a weird place no doubt. funny cuz gavin gwyne had one literally on the back of his head the other night

those ones around the head seem to bleed a lot, although on the positive side they dont go into your eye

funny i said the same thing gg looked terrible nasty againgst mccomb looked like affected him at first , you cant say that ammount of your own blood prouing from your head doesnt affect ya, i dont like seeing my own blood i get faint

[brilo33]

Tough to see Kelly coming back from this, devastating result really.

Good corner work from Booth stopping him getting beat up, but unless the Englishman can significantly improve at a higher weight it's tough to see him at above domestic standard.

iam not sure his style was all wrong in that fight, he is good enough to change , he should be more back foot fighter counter

[coneye]

I Think a lot of these sort of fights are lost in the gym and the prep ,,,, More and more you see the fighters being trained and conditioned , by non boxing people who think there boxing people , dietisc'ns , strenghth coaches , ect , and then the celebrity trainer throws in his pearls of wisdom , and they forget the whole basics of boxing is , HAVE A FIGHT ,,, whilst they spensd there time in air conditioned gyms , on running machines , eating lettuce ,, these mexicans , especielly are training for what it is , a hard fight , , and win by being tougher and hitting harder ,,, celebrity trainers think rowing in a machine , eating cucumber sandwhiches and losing weight to be big but weak is the key ..

For me quite a lot , get there through hard work and learning of there ameteur coaches , and then don't develop when they leave them and go with celebrity trainers , full of wisdom and knoledge they read in a book

[Coco]

Never liked the idea of posh gyms, my former gyms tended to be glorified huts! Space to skip, a ring and few bags and that's it, forget about running water!

[brilo33]

I Think a lot of these sort of fights are lost in the gym and the prep ,,,, More and more you see the fighters being trained and conditioned , by non boxing people who think there boxing people , dietisc'ns , strenghth coaches , ect , and then the celebrity trainer throws in his pearls of wisdom , and they forget the whole basics of boxing is , HAVE A FIGHT ,,, whilst they spensd there time in air conditioned gyms , on running machines , eating lettuce ,, these mexicans , especielly are training for what it is , a hard fight , , and win by being tougher and hitting harder ,,, celebrity trainers think rowing in a machine , eating cucumber sandwhiches and losing weight to be big but weak is the key ..

For me quite a lot , get there through hard work and learning of there ameteur coaches , and then don't develop when they leave them and go with celebrity trainers , full of wisdom and knoledge they read in a book

but booth aint some amuture coache though , and he has lots of knoledge,also has had world champs in different weights but he deffo got that wrong , and i like booth

[NoScoutingReports]

Sharp start from Kelly but he buckled badly under educated pressure from Avanesyan, some great short shots with both hands after initially struggling a little to find his range. As soon as Josh started to stay in one spot while posturing to suggest Ava wasn't hurting him I knew he was in real bother. Ava has proved he is a good finisher before and tonight was no different, pleased for him.

Shout out to Charlton in the fight before, outsized hugely in there but showed serious balls in the face of a number of big shots.

[margaret thatcher]

Sharp start from Kelly but he buckled badly under educated pressure from Avanesyan, some great short shots with both hands after initially struggling a little to find his range. As soon as Josh started to stay in one spot while posturing to suggest Ava wasn't hurting him I knew he was in real bother. Ava has proved he is a good finisher before and tonight was no different, pleased for him.

Shout out to Charlton in the fight before, outsized hugely in there but showed serious balls in the face of a number of big shots.

ya ava was doing some wide swinging and missing early but then started to focus more on those short shots and to up his body work, it paid off pretty quick as kelly wasnt nearly as effective at avoiding those

its one thing fighters should do more of when they are facing some quick guy whose tough to hit in the head, start going to the body because it's much harder to jerk out of the way and the shots you miss are also a lot less obvious than swinging and missing at the head

[NoScoutingReports]

Sharp start from Kelly but he buckled badly under educated pressure from Avanesyan, some great short shots with both hands after initially struggling a little to find his range. As soon as Josh started to stay in one spot while posturing to suggest Ava wasn't hurting him I knew he was in real bother. Ava has proved he is a good finisher before and tonight was no different, pleased for him.

Shout out to Charlton in the fight before, outsized hugely in there but showed serious balls in the face of a number of big shots.

ya ava was doing some wide swinging and missing early but then started to focus more on those short shots and to up his body work, it paid off pretty quick as kelly wasnt nearly as effective at avoiding those

Absolutely. Liked the composure of Ava a lot, wasn't flustered in the slightest despite Kelly's quick start. Solid fighter.

[coneye]

I Think a lot of these sort of fights are lost in the gym and the prep ,,,, More and more you see the fighters being trained and conditioned , by non boxing people who think there boxing people , dietisc'ns , strenghth coaches , ect , and then the celebrity trainer throws in his pearls of wisdom , and they forget the whole basics of boxing is , HAVE A FIGHT ,,, whilst they spensd there time in air conditioned gyms , on running machines , eating lettuce ,, these mexicans , especielly are training for what it is , a hard fight , , and win by being tougher and hitting harder ,,, celebrity trainers think rowing in a machine , eating cucumber sandwhiches and losing weight to be big but weak is the key ..

For me quite a lot , get there through hard work and learning of there ameteur coaches , and then don't develop when they leave them and go with celebrity trainers , full of wisdom and knoledge they read in a book

but booth aint some amuture coache though , and he has lots of knoledge,also has had world champs in different weights but he deffo got that wrong , and i like booth

Correct me then ,, Who has Booth trained from day 1 , who has he brought up through the ameteurs , or even any fighter with no ameteur experience , straight into pro's and become a winner ,,, Give any celbrity coach , David Haye , or Josh Taylor , and it will be easy to keep him winning with the right promoter behind you , Its when the fights start becoming 50-50 fights against tough overseas opponents , who refuse to read the script , THATS when you need boxing knoledge , over the ability to organise a team of dietiscns , strenght coaches ect , ect .

So give me say two lads , he coached from beginning to ABA champs he brought up from scratch , who then went on to kick ass in the pro's ,, and he's not the only one..

I think its happenning a lot , , and showing , that theres too much envisise on these conditioning coaches and being big at weights , whilst really there just big and half starved , and physiclly weaker

[brilo33]

I Think a lot of these sort of fights are lost in the gym and the prep ,,,, More and more you see the fighters being trained and conditioned , by non boxing people who think there boxing people , dietisc'ns , strenghth coaches , ect , and then the celebrity trainer throws in his pearls of wisdom , and they forget the whole basics of boxing is , HAVE A FIGHT ,,, whilst they spensd there time in air conditioned gyms , on running machines , eating lettuce ,, these mexicans , especielly are training for what it is , a hard fight , , and win by being tougher and hitting harder ,,, celebrity trainers think rowing in a machine , eating cucumber sandwhiches and losing weight to be big but weak is the key ..

For me quite a lot , get there through hard work and learning of there ameteur coaches , and then don't develop when they leave them and go with celebrity trainers , full of wisdom and knoledge they read in a book

but booth aint some amuture coache though , and he has lots of knoledge,also has had world champs in different weights but he deffo got that wrong , and i like booth

Correct me then ,, Who has Booth trained from day 1 , who has he brought up through the ameteurs , or even any fighter with no ameteur experience , straight into pro's and become a winner ,,, Give any celbrity coach , David Haye , or Josh Taylor , and it will be easy to keep him winning with the right promoter behind you , Its when the fights start becoming 50-50 fights against tough overseas opponents , who refuse to read the script , THATS when you need boxing knoledge , over the ability to organise a team of dietiscns , strenght coaches ect , ect .

So give me say two lads , he coached from beginning to ABA champs he brought up from scratch , who then went on to kick ass in the pro's ,, and he's not the only one..

I think its happenning a lot , , and showing , that theres too much envisise on these conditioning coaches and being big at weights , whilst really there just big and half starved , and physiclly weaker

none ,dont make him a celebrity coach though, i get where your coming from, maybe kelly should of stayed with his original gym in sunderland learning his basics before going with booth , i agree acutaly if you mean these fighters are leaving to early learning more adavanced stuff when they should really be getting the basics down ,

[coneye]

but booth aint some amuture coache though , and he has lots of knoledge,also has had world champs in different weights but he deffo got that wrong , and i like booth

Correct me then ,, Who has Booth trained from day 1 , who has he brought up through the ameteurs , or even any fighter with no ameteur experience , straight into pro's and become a winner ,,, Give any celbrity coach , David Haye , or Josh Taylor , and it will be easy to keep him winning with the right promoter behind you , Its when the fights start becoming 50-50 fights against tough overseas opponents , who refuse to read the script , THATS when you need boxing knoledge , over the ability to organise a team of dietiscns , strenght coaches ect , ect .

So give me say two lads , he coached from beginning to ABA champs he brought up from scratch , who then went on to kick ass in the pro's ,, and he's not the only one..

I think its happenning a lot , , and showing , that theres too much envisise on these conditioning coaches and being big at weights , whilst really there just big and half starved , and physiclly weaker

none ,dont make him a celebrity coach though, i get where your coming from, maybe kelly should of stayed with his original gym in sunderland learning his basics before going with booth , i agree acutaly if you mean these fighters are leaving to early learning more adavanced stuff when they should really be getting the basics down ,

Yep but i think here lies the problem , they don't learn much , they just get changes a lot from what they already do well ,, I listen to the likes of Ben Davidson ,, he loves to give out his in depth knoledge on boxing to whatever u tube reporter who wants to stick a camera in his face while he gives his best Brad Pitt impresion and educates us all .

Yet when it came to Fury , it took a basic get down to it coach, to advise Fury to do what a lot of experienced coaches knew against Wilder , and that was ,, simply put ,, use your streghth use your size , , keep away from his right hand , push him back and belt him . ... Same with this fight Ava and Kelly ,,, keep it basic , keep the pressure on , and work the body , some guys you can look at and see there big , but weight drained and will struggle has it goes on , and more importanly , quite often you don't even have to know the boxer , you just study his coach and you know EXCATLY what you are gonna get w

[brilo33]

Correct me then ,, Who has Booth trained from day 1 , who has he brought up through the ameteurs , or even any fighter with no ameteur experience , straight into pro's and become a winner ,,, Give any celbrity coach , David Haye , or Josh Taylor , and it will be easy to keep him winning with the right promoter behind you , Its when the fights start becoming 50-50 fights against tough overseas opponents , who refuse to read the script , THATS when you need boxing knoledge , over the ability to organise a team of dietiscns , strenght coaches ect , ect .

So give me say two lads , he coached from beginning to ABA champs he brought up from scratch , who then went on to kick ass in the pro's ,, and he's not the only one..

I think its happenning a lot , , and showing , that theres too much envisise on these conditioning coaches and being big at weights , whilst really there just big and half starved , and physiclly weaker

none ,dont make him a celebrity coach though, i get where your coming from, maybe kelly should of stayed with his original gym in sunderland learning his basics before going with booth , i agree acutaly if you mean these fighters are leaving to early learning more adavanced stuff when they should really be getting the basics down ,

Yep but i think here lies the problem , they don't learn much , they just get changes a lot from what they already do well ,, I listen to the likes of Ben Davidson ,, he loves to give out his in depth knoledge on boxing to whatever u tube reporter who wants to stick a camera in his face while he gives his best Brad Pitt impresion and educates us all .

Yet when it came to Fury , it took a basic get down to it coach, to advise Fury to do what a lot of experienced coaches knew against Wilder , and that was ,, simply put ,, use your streghth use your size , , keep away from his right hand , push him back and belt him . ... Same with this fight Ava and Kelly ,,, keep it basic , keep the pressure on , and work the body , some guys you can look at and see there big , but weight drained and will struggle has it goes on , and more importanly , quite often you don't even have to know the boxer , you just study his coach and you know EXCATLY what you are gonna get w

yea i get what your saying and think there is a lot a truth in that i just read the first post wrong but when i statred writting the next one i got what you were saying , i think it is also management moving boxers on to quick ones that they think they can market big, yea i get and agree what your saying now

[coneye]

none ,dont make him a celebrity coach though, i get where your coming from, maybe kelly should of stayed with his original gym in sunderland learning his basics before going with booth , i agree acutaly if you mean these fighters are leaving to early learning more adavanced stuff when they should really be getting the basics down ,

Yep but i think here lies the problem , they don't learn much , they just get changes a lot from what they already do well ,, I listen to the likes of Ben Davidson ,, he loves to give out his in depth knoledge on boxing to whatever u tube reporter who wants to stick a camera in his face while he gives his best Brad Pitt impresion and educates us all .

Yet when it came to Fury , it took a basic get down to it coach, to advise Fury to do what a lot of experienced coaches knew against Wilder , and that was ,, simply put ,, use your streghth use your size , , keep away from his right hand , push him back and belt him . ... Same with this fight Ava and Kelly ,,, keep it basic , keep the pressure on , and work the body , some guys you can look at and see there big , but weight drained and will struggle has it goes on , and more importanly , quite often you don't even have to know the boxer , you just study his coach and you know EXCATLY what you are gonna get w

yea i get what your saying and think there is a lot a truth in that i just read the first post wrong but when i statred writting the next one i got what you were saying , i think it is also management moving boxers on to quick ones that they think they can market big, yea i get and agree what your saying now

I think management has a lot to do with it , and promoters looking for there stars ,,, which is all fair enough , but i do find it laughable , that a fella can take a kid from 10 years of age , up to top level , then there manager and promoter feel the need to push him to change to a coach who has'nt brought along even 1 ABA champ ....

[gregregegg]

Josh Kelly likes to fight in bursts and be flashy with tons of movement. Avanesyan had the perfect gamplan i thought, sure he would mabey slightly lose on the flashy moments, but strait after he would be right in front of him, moving him back hitting body and head.. He engaged when kelly wanted to rest, and after a few rounds josh wilted.