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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 07:30
by The Gratest
Ruiz jr is 6ft 2". Fury is 6ft 9". For a boxer who monopolises his height to great effect, I just don't see how Fury can motivate himself to take on a fighter who's even shorter than his wife.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 08:08
by joshj909
The Gratest wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 07:30 Ruiz jr is 6ft 2". Fury is 6ft 9". For a boxer who monopolises his height to great effect, I just don't see how Fury can motivate himself to take on a fighter who's even shorter than his wife.
Perhaps Paris can be Tyson's gatekeeper. If you can beat Paris then you're worthy of facing Tyson.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 08:44
by The Gratest
joshj909 wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 08:08
The Gratest wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 07:30 Ruiz jr is 6ft 2". Fury is 6ft 9". For a boxer who monopolises his height to great effect, I just don't see how Fury can motivate himself to take on a fighter who's even shorter than his wife.
Perhaps Paris can be Tyson's gatekeeper. If you can beat Paris then you're worthy of facing Tyson.
A life-sized cardboard cutout in each gym should suffice.
"If you are as tall as Paris, then you may fight The Gypsy King!".

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 08:52
by Ambling Alp II
We are just 8 days away from Fury-Usyk!

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 08:55
by The Gratest
:lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 10:37
by Ruthless-RKO
Ambling Alp II wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 08:52 We are just 8 days away from Fury-Usyk!
Imagine that was actually the case..

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 11:34
by tonyevs
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 07:10
tonyevs wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 07:03 It was only last year Fury did his infamous deadline to face AJ .. knowing Furys ploys of avoiding risky fights (as later evidenced against Usyk) then that there is now a fact Mick :TU:
It’s a waste of time arguing with someone who believes Ruiz win over AJ isn’t worth mentioning and doesn’t see Wlad or Wilder as risky fights…
You living in the past Mick.
It was almost 8 yrs since Fury fought Wlad ... almost 5 since he first faced Wilder too.

Those risky fights were even before Ruiz beat AJ .. and even longer since AJ easily beat Ruiz in the rematch.

Live in the now Mick :TU:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 13:13
by mickey1975
tonyevs wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 11:34
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 07:10
tonyevs wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 07:03 It was only last year Fury did his infamous deadline to face AJ .. knowing Furys ploys of avoiding risky fights (as later evidenced against Usyk) then that there is now a fact Mick :TU:
It’s a waste of time arguing with someone who believes Ruiz win over AJ isn’t worth mentioning and doesn’t see Wlad or Wilder as risky fights…
You living in the past Mick.
It was almost 8 yrs since Fury fought Wlad ... almost 5 since he first faced Wilder too.

Those risky fights were even before Ruiz beat AJ .. and even longer since AJ easily beat Ruiz in the rematch.

Live in the now Mick :TU:
18 months since Wilder 3. Are you saying Wilder is an easy fight nowadays?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 14:21
by tonyevs
One things for sure is that Wilder, no matter how crude he is .. no matter how he telegraphs his right hand. He never fails to send Fury to the canvas.

So I guess for Fury Wilder will always present a risk. For any other top heavyweight it's hard to say because Wilder hasn't fought any :OhYes:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 14:57
by Frostieballs
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 13:13
tonyevs wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 11:34
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 07:10
It’s a waste of time arguing with someone who believes Ruiz win over AJ isn’t worth mentioning and doesn’t see Wlad or Wilder as risky fights…
You living in the past Mick.
It was almost 8 yrs since Fury fought Wlad ... almost 5 since he first faced Wilder too.

Those risky fights were even before Ruiz beat AJ .. and even longer since AJ easily beat Ruiz in the rematch.

Live in the now Mick :TU:
18 months since Wilder 3. Are you saying Wilder is an easy fight nowadays?
I won’t say he’s an easy fight - but I would say he’s only a European level test.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 15:46
by mickey1975
tonyevs wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 14:21 One things for sure is that Wilder, no matter how crude he is .. no matter how he telegraphs his right hand. He never fails to send Fury to the canvas.

So I guess for Fury Wilder will always present a risk. For any other top heavyweight it's hard to say because Wilder hasn't fought any :OhYes:
He’s stopped everyone else he has fought and was champion of the world for years, mate….

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 17:20
by joshj909
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 15:46
tonyevs wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 14:21 One things for sure is that Wilder, no matter how crude he is .. no matter how he telegraphs his right hand. He never fails to send Fury to the canvas.

So I guess for Fury Wilder will always present a risk. For any other top heavyweight it's hard to say because Wilder hasn't fought any :OhYes:
He’s stopped everyone else he has fought and was champion of the world for years, mate….
Who even worth mentioning did he stop?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 17:22
by mickey1975
joshj909 wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 17:20
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 15:46
tonyevs wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 14:21 One things for sure is that Wilder, no matter how crude he is .. no matter how he telegraphs his right hand. He never fails to send Fury to the canvas.

So I guess for Fury Wilder will always present a risk. For any other top heavyweight it's hard to say because Wilder hasn't fought any :OhYes:
He’s stopped everyone else he has fought and was champion of the world for years, mate….
Who even worth mentioning did he stop?
I think it's all been mentioned, debated etc to death on here so won't bother, mate.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 21 Apr 2023, 18:16
by margaret thatcher
mandatory mention that bermane stiverne and dom breazeale are still among the best 3 guys he's beaten in almost 50 fights :lol:

the power is obviously major, but jeeezus that is one padded win column

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 22 Apr 2023, 03:38
by tonyevs
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 15:46
tonyevs wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 14:21 One things for sure is that Wilder, no matter how crude he is .. no matter how he telegraphs his right hand. He never fails to send Fury to the canvas.

So I guess for Fury Wilder will always present a risk. For any other top heavyweight it's hard to say because Wilder hasn't fought any :OhYes:
He’s stopped everyone else he has fought and was champion of the world for years, mate….

Wilder is practically a heavyweight Buck Smith .. without as many quality fighters on his record, mate :bow:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 22 Apr 2023, 07:46
by mickey1975
tonyevs wrote: 22 Apr 2023, 03:38
mickey1975 wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 15:46
tonyevs wrote: 21 Apr 2023, 14:21 One things for sure is that Wilder, no matter how crude he is .. no matter how he telegraphs his right hand. He never fails to send Fury to the canvas.

So I guess for Fury Wilder will always present a risk. For any other top heavyweight it's hard to say because Wilder hasn't fought any :OhYes:
He’s stopped everyone else he has fought and was champion of the world for years, mate….

Wilder is practically a heavyweight Buck Smith .. without as many quality fighters on his record, mate :bow:
Intentionally trolling doesn’t suit you, stick to the unintentional, mate.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 30 Apr 2023, 15:07
by Ambling Alp II
Can't find anything on yesterday's fight. We have been waiting forever for this fight, it finally comes and the media ignores it?
So who won, Fury or Usyk?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 30 Apr 2023, 15:43
by big lennox
Ambling Alp II wrote: 30 Apr 2023, 15:07 Can't find anything on yesterday's fight. We have been waiting forever for this fight, it finally comes and the media ignores it?
So who won, Fury or Usyk?
Sadly the Uysk fight didn't happen, but Fury had Wembley booked and was going to fight last night with or without Uysk as an opponent. Strange that there has been no news*. Presumably Fury won because no man born from his mother can beat him and all other opponents are just dossers and sausages.

*It was probably Chisora again

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 30 Apr 2023, 15:49
by margaret thatcher
instead of a fight, fury and wilder held a joint 'night with', titled 'make love not war' where they made out with one another in front of a very hot and heavy crowd of supporters

word is that the next event might have andy ruiz added in for a 3 way

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 30 Apr 2023, 16:04
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 30 Apr 2023, 16:26
by big lennox
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Apr 2023, 16:04
Thankfully, we had the World Snooker Championship semi finals to watch instead, where all four opponents acquitted themselves so well, and delivered epic encounters. Proper sportsmen.

Meanwhile, Fury can't ever seem to agree terms with his closest competitors. With the exception of a couple of UK journalists, most fans, casuals and international journalists have lost interest in Fury, and lost confidence in his willingness to take part in meaningful fights where there is some jeapardy.

I think Dan Rafael's tweet reflects this shift in position.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 01 May 2023, 03:32
by mickey1975
big lennox wrote: 30 Apr 2023, 16:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Apr 2023, 16:04
Thankfully, we had the World Snooker Championship semi finals to watch instead, where all four opponents acquitted themselves so well, and delivered epic encounters. Proper sportsmen.

Meanwhile, Fury can't ever seem to agree terms with his closest competitors. With the exception of a couple of UK journalists, most fans, casuals and international journalists have lost interest in Fury, and lost confidence in his willingness to take part in meaningful fights where there is some jeapardy.

I think Dan Rafael's tweet reflects this shift in position.
So do you think he will have to drop down to an arena, like AJ, if he fights this summer? Presumably The Copperbox or York Hall if almost everyone has deserted him.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 01 May 2023, 05:14
by big lennox
mickey1975 wrote: 01 May 2023, 03:32
big lennox wrote: 30 Apr 2023, 16:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Apr 2023, 16:04
Thankfully, we had the World Snooker Championship semi finals to watch instead, where all four opponents acquitted themselves so well, and delivered epic encounters. Proper sportsmen.

Meanwhile, Fury can't ever seem to agree terms with his closest competitors. With the exception of a couple of UK journalists, most fans, casuals and international journalists have lost interest in Fury, and lost confidence in his willingness to take part in meaningful fights where there is some jeapardy.

I think Dan Rafael's tweet reflects this shift in position.
So do you think he will have to drop down to an arena, like AJ, if he fights this summer? Presumably The Copperbox or York Hall if almost everyone has deserted him.

Will he even fight in July?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 01 May 2023, 09:03
by mickey1975
No idea, hence the ‘if’.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 29 April 2023?

Posted: 13 May 2023, 10:15
by Ruthless-RKO