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telboy66 wrote:Give the guy some respect he's always in condition & does have a ram rod jam that most have found difficult to get by, a couple of rounds eating that then the big hook comes over & it's usually good night, robotic the Klitschko's maybe but their records stand up well.If Haye can get inside the jab & the leading foot then his power may be enough but it's a very big ask

It doesn't matter, telboy. They are both bums. What merits respect?
Regardless of who wins, the result will be a bum defeating a bum.

Jake LaMotta & Joey LaMotta: 1945

Sugar Ray Robinson & Carmen Basilio: 1957

March 19, 1958: In the Illinois Boxing Commission's office, Carmen Basilio tries on the gloves that will be used in his March 25
bout with Sugar Ray Robinson, who observes with his co-manager, Harold 'Killer' Johnson, and Basilio's co-manager, John DeJohn.

The Face of a real fighter



Carmen Basillio

Rick Farris wrote:Lloyd Marshall vs. Freddie Mills . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Ptbswv ... re=related

There's a story behind this one, Rick. The King was introduced to the fighters in the ring before the fight. Marshall was so delighted he went out there and took apart poor Freddie.

Rick Farris wrote:

telboy66 wrote:Give the guy some respect he's always in condition & does have a ram rod jam that most have found difficult to get by, a couple of rounds eating that then the big hook comes over & it's usually good night, robotic the Klitschko's maybe but their records stand up well.If Haye can get inside the jab & the leading foot then his power may be enough but it's a very big ask

It doesn't matter, telboy. They are both bums. What merits respect?
Regardless of who wins, the result will be a bum defeating a bum.

That's very harsh, Rick, and most unlike you. Haye learned from defeat (as did Klitschko) and come back a better fighter - and is still improving. OK, the modern heavies would not have lived with those of the 1970s but no matter where you are, you do what you can, with what you have.

kikibalt wrote:

Jake LaMotta & Joey LaMotta: 1945

Great shot.

kikibalt wrote:

Sugar Ray Robinson & Carmen Basilio: 1957

Nice thumb in the eye from Basilio (or should I say, not nice).

Going to invite Connie out to breakfast, I know she will say "yes", just hoping that she will also say "I'll pay"...

Resurecting the less than great: One of my main hobbies is doing resaerch on old Norwegian pro fighters and writing short articles on themwho by no means were great and probably only a handfull of people today know ever existed.
Heres a answer to a mail abut one of them wich is the only writing ive done in english :

Ole Nesheim

He was born in the port city of Bergen and moved to Haugesund at a very young age where his parents ran a general store.
Nesheim apparently grew tired of the life of working in the store and went to sea , where he for some years worked in the north sea. One of the ships he worked on went down and he was saved only after a long swim.
After this he went of to sea again and sailed all over the world where he eventually landed in San Francisco. he stayed in san fr. and L.A for a while before heading to Brooklyn in the summer of 1930(probably to the norwegian colony of Ridgewood or in Bunker Hill). He started out as a wrestler shortly after arriving in the u.s but got some kind of a injury and turned to boxing.

In a newspaper interview the christmas of 1931 when he was visiting his parents in haugesund he stated that :''life is hard for proffesional boxers in america these days, i hope to get some fights here at home''.
After retiring from boxing he ran a carpenter shop with his father in Sandeid before a few years before his death he left for the U.S again and setlled in New York where he died 62 yo 1st of september 1967.
.......................................................
He will be my next subject a pretty obscure charascter in boxing history.

Panzerfaust wrote:Resurecting the less than great: One of my main hobbies is doing resaerch on old Norwegian pro fighters and writing short articles on themwho by no means were great and probably only a handfull of people today know ever existed.
Heres a answer to a mail abut one of them wich is the only writing ive done in english :

Ole Nesheim

He was born in the port city of Bergen and moved to Haugesund at a very young age where his parents ran a general store.
Nesheim apparently grew tired of the life of working in the store and went to sea , where he for some years worked in the north sea. One of the ships he worked on went down and he was saved only after a long swim.
After this he went of to sea again and sailed all over the world where he eventually landed in San Francisco. he stayed in san fr. and L.A for a while before heading to Brooklyn in the summer of 1930(probably to the norwegian colony of Ridgewood or in Bunker Hill). He started out as a wrestler shortly after arriving in the u.s but got some kind of a injury and turned to boxing.

In a newspaper interview the christmas of 1931 when he was visiting his parents in haugesund he stated that :''life is hard for proffesional boxers in america these days, i hope to get some fights here at home''.
After retiring from boxing he ran a carpenter shop with his father in Sandeid before a few years before his death he left for the U.S again and setlled in New York where he died 62 yo 1st of september 1967.
.......................................................
He will be my next subject a pretty obscure charascter in boxing history.

Panzerfaust wrote:Resurecting the less than great: One of my main hobbies is doing resaerch on old Norwegian pro fighters and writing short articles on themwho by no means were great and probably only a handfull of people today know ever existed.
Heres a answer to a mail abut one of them wich is the only writing ive done in english :

Ole Nesheim

He was born in the port city of Bergen and moved to Haugesund at a very young age where his parents ran a general store.
Nesheim apparently grew tired of the life of working in the store and went to sea , where he for some years worked in the north sea. One of the ships he worked on went down and he was saved only after a long swim.
After this he went of to sea again and sailed all over the world where he eventually landed in San Francisco. he stayed in san fr. and L.A for a while before heading to Brooklyn in the summer of 1930(probably to the norwegian colony of Ridgewood or in Bunker Hill). He started out as a wrestler shortly after arriving in the u.s but got some kind of a injury and turned to boxing.

In a newspaper interview the christmas of 1931 when he was visiting his parents in haugesund he stated that :''life is hard for proffesional boxers in america these days, i hope to get some fights here at home''.
After retiring from boxing he ran a carpenter shop with his father in Sandeid before a few years before his death he left for the U.S again and setlled in New York where he died 62 yo 1st of september 1967.
.......................................................
He will be my next subject a pretty obscure charascter in boxing history.

Remy, thanks for sharing that. Sometimes the most obscure fighters have the most exciting story.

Randy

Photo Courtesy of Showtime Boxing


Saturday night, at the Palms Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada, Brandon Rios did what challengers are supposed to do, he went out and took the title from the champion, Miguel Acosta. In what turned out to be the toughest fight of his career, Rios hung in there after a rough start, made adjustments, came back and stopped Acosta in the 10th round.

In the first few rounds Rios had trouble with Acosta’s speed and range and was hurt more than once, but with dogged perseverance and determination he continued to stalk Acosta, resolute in his belief that he would find a way. Acosta, just as determined showed why he had not lost since 2003, in his last 19 fights. He was out boxing Rios, keeping him at a distance and at times he was out slugging him. When the middle rounds began Rios tightened up his defense, closed the gap and took the fight inside. It paid off. In the six Rios caught the champion with a left and a right but it was a stiff jab that sent him down.

Up until the first knockdown Acosta was in control of the fight. After the knockdown he seemed desperate and it showed in his face and in the way he was fighting. The tide had turned. Rios punching power was beginning to have an affect.

After the knockdown in the eighth, a left hook that caught Acosta as he was backing out of an exchange, the conclusion seemed inevitable. Acosta, a worthy champion, was hurt and Rios was not letting up. Still, it’s a fight and anything can happen. Acosta, showing a champion’s heart fought back but his punches had lost their snap and he was unable to keep Rios at a distance.

The end came in the 10th round when Acosta was caught by a series of punches and crumbled in the corner causing referee Joe Cortez to stop the fight. Brandon Rios was the new WBA Lightweight Champion.

Rios answered any and all questions that may have been asked of him. He showed a huge heart in Saturday night’s fight. He’s no quitter. Even when things were not going his way he never wavered. In boxing we call that Stick-to-it-ive-ness. Rios showed plenty of that. He beat a real champion in Acosta. After the fight there was no arrogance, justifiable pride, yes but no arrogance. He was just happy to be the new champ.

On the co-main event Tony DeMarco and Reyes Sanchez gave the fans at the Heartland Event Center in Grand Island, Nebraska, their monies worth, going the distance in a hard fought battle, with DeMarco getting the win. Sanchez, like Brandon Rios against Acosta, never let up, never stopped trying and he gave DeMarco all he could handle. For most of the fight though, DeMarco remained in control. Things might have been different if Sanchez actually had a punch.

The night belonged to Rios and with this victory, the lightweight division is really heating up. With fellow lightweight champions Juan Manuel Marquez, Humberto Soto and Miguel Vaqzuez all looming as potential opponents, and with guys like John Molina, Robert Guerrero and former champions and legends Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales in the midst, the future looks bright for Rios and the lightweight division.

Congratulations to Brandon Rios for winning the WBA Lightweight title with an exciting 10th knockout over champion Miguel Acosta and Kudos to Showtime Boxing and Bob Arum for a great fight and great matchmaking.

kikibalt wrote:The Face of a real fighter



Carmen Basillio

They don't come any tougher than Basilio. It had to be a nightmare to look across the ring to see Carmen Basilio in the opposite corner.

Panzerfaust wrote:Resurecting the less than great: One of my main hobbies is doing resaerch on old Norwegian pro fighters and writing short articles on themwho by no means were great and probably only a handfull of people today know ever existed.
Heres a answer to a mail abut one of them wich is the only writing ive done in english :

Ole Nesheim

He was born in the port city of Bergen and moved to Haugesund at a very young age where his parents ran a general store.
Nesheim apparently grew tired of the life of working in the store and went to sea , where he for some years worked in the north sea. One of the ships he worked on went down and he was saved only after a long swim.
After this he went of to sea again and sailed all over the world where he eventually landed in San Francisco. he stayed in san fr. and L.A for a while before heading to Brooklyn in the summer of 1930(probably to the norwegian colony of Ridgewood or in Bunker Hill). He started out as a wrestler shortly after arriving in the u.s but got some kind of a injury and turned to boxing.

In a newspaper interview the christmas of 1931 when he was visiting his parents in haugesund he stated that :''life is hard for proffesional boxers in america these days, i hope to get some fights here at home''.
After retiring from boxing he ran a carpenter shop with his father in Sandeid before a few years before his death he left for the U.S again and setlled in New York where he died 62 yo 1st of september 1967.
.......................................................
He will be my next subject a pretty obscure charascter in boxing history.

Great start Remy. Gotta be proud of your home turf.See if you can find out if he is buried in the NY. City area and what cemetary. I'll try and locate grave and take pictures for you.

Good morning all , went out last night for dinner last night at the Las Vegas Hilton , ate at Benihana's Japanese restaurant where they cook in front of you , I highly recommend it to anyone coming out to Vegas , stopped at the Wildfire casino on the way home for a drink at the bar , saw Tony Tucker , he was at the bar with a couple of people , I am pretty sure he lives here now because I have seen him in different casinos several times.

bennie wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Lloyd Marshall vs. Freddie Mills . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Ptbswv ... re=related

There's a story behind this one, Rick. The King was introduced to the fighters in the ring before the fight. Marshall was so delighted he went out there and took apart poor Freddie.

Interesting, Bennie. Marshall was one of those great black light-heavies of his era, along with Jack Chase, Holman Williams, etc. guys who never got a break.
I also found interesting Mills friendship with the Kray's, which may have something to do with his death?

Randyman wrote:Photo Courtesy of Showtime Boxing


Saturday night, at the Palms Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada, Brandon Rios did what challengers are supposed to do, he went out and took the title from the champion, Miguel Acosta. In what turned out to be the toughest fight of his career, Rios hung in there after a rough start, made adjustments, came back and stopped Acosta in the 10th round.

In the first few rounds Rios had trouble with Acosta’s speed and range and was hurt more than once, but with dogged perseverance and determination he continued to stalk Acosta, resolute in his belief that he would find a way. Acosta, just as determined showed why he had not lost since 2003, in his last 19 fights. He was out boxing Rios, keeping him at a distance and at times he was out slugging him. When the middle rounds began Rios tightened up his defense, closed the gap and took the fight inside. It paid off. In the six Rios caught the champion with a left and a right but it was a stiff jab that sent him down.

Up until the first knockdown Acosta was in control of the fight. After the knockdown he seemed desperate and it showed in his face and in the way he was fighting. The tide had turned. Rios punching power was beginning to have an affect.

After the knockdown in the eighth, a left hook that caught Acosta as he was backing out of an exchange, the conclusion seemed inevitable. Acosta, a worthy champion, was hurt and Rios was not letting up. Still, it’s a fight and anything can happen. Acosta, showing a champion’s heart fought back but his punches had lost their snap and he was unable to keep Rios at a distance.

The end came in the 10th round when Acosta was caught by a series of punches and crumbled in the corner causing referee Joe Cortez to stop the fight. Brandon Rios was the new WBA Lightweight Champion.

Rios answered any and all questions that may have been asked of him. He showed a huge heart in Saturday night’s fight. He’s no quitter. Even when things were not going his way he never wavered. In boxing we call that Stick-to-it-ive-ness. Rios showed plenty of that. He beat a real champion in Acosta. After the fight there was no arrogance, justifiable pride, yes but no arrogance. He was just happy to be the new champ.

On the co-main event Tony DeMarco and Reyes Sanchez gave the fans at the Heartland Event Center in Grand Island, Nebraska, their monies worth, going the distance in a hard fought battle, with DeMarco getting the win. Sanchez, like Brandon Rios against Acosta, never let up, never stopped trying and he gave DeMarco all he could handle. For most of the fight though, DeMarco remained in control. Things might have been different if Sanchez actually had a punch.

The night belonged to Rios and with this victory, the lightweight division is really heating up. With fellow lightweight champions Juan Manuel Marquez, Humberto Soto and Miguel Vaqzuez all looming as potential opponents, and with guys like John Molina, Robert Guerrero and former champions and legends Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales in the midst, the future looks bright for Rios and the lightweight division.

Congratulations to Brandon Rios for winning the WBA Lightweight title with an exciting 10th knockout over champion Miguel Acosta and Kudos to Showtime Boxing and Bob Arum for a great fight and great matchmaking.

Rios did hang tough and pulled out a victory over a guy who outscored him in the early going.
There are still some fairly competent lightweights in the world, but I don't consider Rios one of them.
Nice coverage of the fights, Randy. Well written.

kikibalt wrote:The Face of a real fighter



Carmen Basillio

A thing of beauty is a joy forever.
He sure ruined a saturday night for Art Aragon about a half century ago.

Rick Farris wrote:A Jerry Quarry finish to a unbeaten KO slugger, Mac Foster . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SoIWuKS ... re=related

My favorite mid-to-late 60's L.A. product was Jerry Quarry. Number two, Mando Ramos.

Rick this was probably Quarry's most impressive performance along with the Ron Lyle fight , these fights show how good of a counter puncher Jerry was and also what a great chin he had to take the best shots these guys had to offer despite giving up a significant amount of weight to these big men.

Charlie Norkus

Jacob Javits Convention Center


Ronny

This where James and Ronny are at.

Panzerfaust wrote:Resurecting the less than great: One of my main hobbies is doing resaerch on old Norwegian pro fighters and writing short articles on themwho by no means were great and probably only a handfull of people today know ever existed.
Heres a answer to a mail abut one of them wich is the only writing ive done in english :

Ole Nesheim

He was born in the port city of Bergen and moved to Haugesund at a very young age where his parents ran a general store.
Nesheim apparently grew tired of the life of working in the store and went to sea , where he for some years worked in the north sea. One of the ships he worked on went down and he was saved only after a long swim.
After this he went of to sea again and sailed all over the world where he eventually landed in San Francisco. he stayed in san fr. and L.A for a while before heading to Brooklyn in the summer of 1930(probably to the norwegian colony of Ridgewood or in Bunker Hill). He started out as a wrestler shortly after arriving in the u.s but got some kind of a injury and turned to boxing.

In a newspaper interview the christmas of 1931 when he was visiting his parents in haugesund he stated that :''life is hard for proffesional boxers in america these days, i hope to get some fights here at home''.
After retiring from boxing he ran a carpenter shop with his father in Sandeid before a few years before his death he left for the U.S again and setlled in New York where he died 62 yo 1st of september 1967.
.......................................................
He will be my next subject a pretty obscure charascter in boxing history.

Remy, I look forward to your story on Ole Nesheim.

kikibalt wrote:

THEHAMMER321 wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Morning Rick. I think Paul is still at the tables in Vegas......

Hey guys glad to be back, was in Laughlin Nevada for a week, Frank you were half right I was at the tables, wrong venue though , how have you guys been, didn't do much gambling though mostly relaxed and went out for a nice dinner every night and stayed in the hotel room and read a lot, gonna go back to bed, talk to you all when I wake up.

Hell, Paul!!, you might just as well stayed in Vegas. Vegas/Laughlin is pretty much the same, you should had come to L.A, I would have taken you to E.L.A where a white boy can really relax...

Frank do they have a taco bell there ?

For Frank



Thee Midniters - Whittier Blvd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdKdC6bRtos