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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 19:04
by Rick Farris
CNorkusJr wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:"Little Brother" . . .


I took the day off work. I did it because I didn't feel like going, something I'd have never done when I was young.
I'm working with a few guys I broke in with, my buddies, we take care of each other.
The great thing is several of their sons are also working with us, the next generation. These kids grew up hearing our names, we get respect.

When you grow up in Burbank, you live close to many people who work in the film industry, cameramen, make-up artists, lighting techs, grips, actors, writers, etc.
Burbank is home to generations of film professionals, as well as the Warner Brothers Studios, Walt Disney Studios/ABC Headquarters, Universal Studios is located in Burbank's Toluca Lake area, NBC Studios where the "The Tonight Show" is taped several days a week, and the Columbia Studios Ranch facility. People like to live close to their work, and Burbank is the true Media Center of Southern Cal, as well as the rest of the world. Unlike most cities in Southern Cal, Burbank has no budget problems, it has movie studios.

The TV series, "The Wonder Years" was filmed on the street I grew up on. The "Arnold family" home location was directly across the street from my mothers house.
My mother said the location reps would pay all of the neighbors a $100 to park their cars in the garage instead of on the street or driveway. The series was a period production and the newer model cars would compromise the time period. The series was set in the late 60's (which would have been the time I lived there), but it was early 90's when the series was filmed.

My grandmother's home, on Catalina Street, was located in the middle of the block between Oak St. and Verdugo, a small 2 bedroom house on a big lot where I spent most my time as a kid. Around the corner on Oak St., about 3 blocks down is a small 2 bedroom home on a corner across fron Stevenson Elementary School. This was where actor/director Ron Howard grew up. We'd see him in the neighborhood, usually with his parents and younger brother, Clint. Clint was himself a child star of the series, "Gentle Ben". They boys were raised conservativly, and Ron Howard attended Burbank schools when not on the set. He married his high school girlfriend, attended USC Film School with George Lukas, Spielberg, etc. Ron Howard was unpretentious, drove a VW Beetle, stayed in the neighborhood until his late 20's. There was Happy Days, American Graffiti, The Shootist, and now he is an A List director/producer. One of the best film makers on the planet.

Little brother Clint, as a kid, was a cute little boy, and a brilliant actor. Before getting his own series, he appeared in an episode of the "Twilight Zone" and got great reviews.
Clint Howard was suddenly one of those hot kid actors, but unlike his brother, that's where things would end.
Teen years made the cute kid an awkward looking charactor, and he rarely worked. In recent years he's been seen in speaking rolls in all of his brother Ron's films, but that's about it.
Today we crossed paths again, as we did decades back, when he and Ron were at the slot car track (always with both mom and dad, charactor actor Rance Howard. In the early 60's, the slot car track was one of my boyhood haunts. It's where I got into a lot of fights, in the alley behind. Lots of trouble before I stepped into a junior golden gloves ring.

I once played Ronny Howard one-on-one when he challenged me to game of basketball. He and I were the only kids on the Verdugo Park Gym floor, but that was the only time I spoke with him directly, until I worked with him years later on "Far & Away". He was a year younger than me, both about the same size. He beat me in that game by two points. Today I saw Clint at a local spa where I go for saunas. It's in our old neighborhood. I live about 15 minutes away in Studio City, Clint tells me he lives just a few blocks away, same neighborhood where we grew up. We commented on the relaxation and benefits of our sauna visits. You pull the tag line running across the ceiling and water is sprayed onto the hot rocks, creating steam in a better way than when pumped thru pipes. It's where I go to escape, clean out the toxins. "I'm not a rich man," Clint Howard remarked, "but I can afford a few bucks for this once a week. A great way to regenerate myself."
His brother Ron is wealthy beyond belief. Two brothers, same direction, different destinations.

Clint was right about the benefits of "The Burbank Spa". I've been doing this since my 20's, regardless of my good habits or bad, I don't go long with out visiting my friends from Finland. It's a real Finnish Spa, and I've known the family for about twenty years now, used to date one of the sisters.
It's where I go to sweat the devil out. :twisted: :OhYes:

This Sunday I'm going to take Don Fraser to the Burbank Spa. It's going to sweat the devil out of Don, as well. :lol:
Great story Rick, I assume the "wonder Years" house was for exterior shots only and all interior stuff was in studio,not the house across from your moms. They would tie up the whole block for hours if they did,right ? Did the Arnold family shoot any scenes right on that block ? must have been real neat for the "regular" neigjhbors.
I use to watch that show with my first wife because,like yourself, We grew up in that time period also. They did a good job with the story line portayel for those years.

Ron Howard, like Tom Hanks nowadays,whatever those two do is instant Gold for the industry. I like Hanks in his work with covering WW II stuff now.
1969, the "Real" Wonder Years on University Ave.

I never worked on the show or was around when it filmed during the early to mid 90's.
However, an old girlfriend who was Fred Savich's make-up artist said they also shot the interior of the home.
They would tie the street up for at least three days of each episodes seven day shooting schedule.
The neighbors were paid not to do gardening or park cars on the street on the days they filmed.
No one seemed to mind. If they filmed on the street several times during a month, that's a lot of extra cash for a little inconvenience. The film company was considerate.
After the series ended, the owners of the house completely remodled it, so it is no longer recognizable.
Today it is a huge two-story house on a street of mostly single story homes. I drove up the street awhile back, things had changed a bit.
The home my parents once owned was relandscaped which gave it a different look, but it was all the same.

Forty-two years ago, about this time in 1969. The Quarry family got into a brawl with another family at El Monte Legion.
I went home that night to this house. 1969, a month later my 22-year-old cousin, an Army Captain, was killed in Viet Nam.
I went to Kansas City that year for the Golden Gloves, as well as San Diego for AAU Natl's.
Life was good, something like what they showed. The Charles Manson gang went on a killing spree, and in the same month Olivares won the bantam title and Rocky Marciano died in a plane crash in an Iowa corn field. I was 17. Boxing was great in L.A. back then. Really great, Frank remembers. :TU: :OhYes:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 20:00
by kikibalt
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 21:55
by THEHAMMER321
Where is the coffee crew ? .

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 22:15
by Rick Farris
Did the Arnold family shoot any scenes right on that block?
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All of the exteriors. The homes in the background were the set. If you saw the actors doing a "walk & talk" on the sidewalk, this is where it was filmed.
I didn't watch the show, but I did check it out a couple of times. I could see my mother's home in some of the cuts, or part of it.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 22:19
by Rick Farris
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Where is the coffee crew ? .
Paul . . . You are either too early, or too late?
Frank is probably out like a light and I will be soon.
Now if you are up before 4am manana, I'll be checking in with my first cup.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 22:25
by Rick Farris
Ron Howard, like Tom Hanks nowadays,whatever those two do is instant Gold for the industry. I like Hanks in his work with covering WW II stuff now.
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Yes, anything they do makes money. Spider Man ends for me in four weeks.
Looks like I'll be starting my next feature in June, which is another Star Trek feature film.
Like every Star Trek Movie or TV production, it will be shot entirely on stage at Paramount Studios.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 23:15
by CNorkusJr
Rick Farris wrote:Ron Howard, like Tom Hanks nowadays,whatever those two do is instant Gold for the industry. I like Hanks in his work with covering WW II stuff now.
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Yes, anything they do makes money. Spider Man ends for me in four weeks.
Looks like I'll be starting my next feature in June, which is another Star Trek feature film.
Like every Star Trek Movie or TV production, it will be shot entirely on stage at Paramount Studios.
Thank You Rick, I find this stuff interesting. You had a nice run with this Spiderman movie.
Good Luck on the Star Trek feature. Keep us posted during the summer.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 02:19
by bennie
Flump wrote:
scartissue wrote:
Flump wrote:As this now legendary thread started with Ernie Indian Red Lopez I though you might be interested in some articles that appeared in the British Boxing News just before the John H Stracey fight in London in 1974. Keep going guys, it's been an education, inside and outside the ropes.

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Flump, thanks for posting this. I used to love reading Boxing News. Subscribed to it for years, but after Harry Mullan passed away it just never seemed the same under Claude Abrams. Perhaps the same editorial policies and such didn't jive with him. I gave it a year under Claude and let it lapse. I always loved the way BN writers would break a fight down and boldly make a prediction on a fight's outcome. This was great on Lopez-Stracey. Do you have a collection dating back?

Scartissue
Scartissue, I'm afraid a lot of my collection has been lost in house moves etc but I'm trying to pick up some stuff where possible, if there's anything else of West Coast interest I'll post it.

You're right about Claude Abrams, I remember a year or so before Mullan left BN Abrams' writing suddenly became more flamboyant and bold, then I realised why as Mullan was seemingly eased out of the door, Bennie would be better placed to know if there was anything underhand going on. Mullan and his staff in the 70's and 80's were talented, honest and produced a great paper. Abrams once proclaimed Roy Jones Jr as the greatest fighter of all time. I think I'll leave it at that....
Flump, did you use to post as Lamphey?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 07:54
by Rick Farris
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Where is the coffee crew ? .

4:53am . . .

Where are our kept men???
Must be nice to sleep in? I wouldn't know anymore. :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 07:56
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Where is the coffee crew ? .
Paul . . . You are either too early, or too late?
Frank is probably out like a light and I will be soon.
Now if you are up before 4am manana, I'll be checking in with my first cup.
Yes, I was out like a light. But now I am working on my second cup of joe.... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 07:57
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Where is the coffee crew ? .

4:53am . . .

Where are the "kept men"???
Being "kept".... :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 07:58
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Where is the coffee crew ? .
Paul . . . You are either too early, or too late?
Frank is probably out like a light and I will be soon.
Now if you are up before 4am manana, I'll be checking in with my first cup.
Yes, I was out like a light. But now I am working on my second cup of joe.... :TU:
Hey Frank! I'm finishing my first cup.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 08:00
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote: Paul . . . You are either too early, or too late?
Frank is probably out like a light and I will be soon.
Now if you are up before 4am manana, I'll be checking in with my first cup.
Yes, I was out like a light. But now I am working on my second cup of joe.... :TU:
Hey Frank! I'm finishing my first cup.
The first one always taste better, doesn't it????

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 08:03
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote: Yes, I was out like a light. But now I am working on my second cup of joe.... :TU:
Hey Frank! I'm finishing my first cup.
The first one always taste better, doesn't it????
:OhYes: Have a good day. It's going to be in the 90's today.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 08:05
by kikibalt
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(L-to-R) Tony Baltazar, my dad, Aurelio Baltazar and me
Circa 1970

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 08:07
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote: Hey Frank! I'm finishing my first cup.
The first one always taste better, doesn't it????
:OhYes: Have a good day. It's going to be in the 90's today.
You too. It was hot in La Puente yesterday, it will be hotter today we're told.... :OhYes:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 08:19
by Flump
Flump, thanks for posting this. I used to love reading Boxing News. Subscribed to it for years, but after Harry Mullan passed away it just never seemed the same under Claude Abrams. Perhaps the same editorial policies and such didn't jive with him. I gave it a year under Claude and let it lapse. I always loved the way BN writers would break a fight down and boldly make a prediction on a fight's outcome. This was great on Lopez-Stracey. Do you have a collection dating back?

Scartissue[/quote]

Scartissue, I'm afraid a lot of my collection has been lost in house moves etc but I'm trying to pick up some stuff where possible, if there's anything else of West Coast interest I'll post it.

You're right about Claude Abrams, I remember a year or so before Mullan left BN Abrams' writing suddenly became more flamboyant and bold, then I realised why as Mullan was seemingly eased out of the door, Bennie would be better placed to know if there was anything underhand going on. Mullan and his staff in the 70's and 80's were talented, honest and produced a great paper. Abrams once proclaimed Roy Jones Jr as the greatest fighter of all time. I think I'll leave it at that....[/quote]

Flump, I don't think it was so much under-handed as it was that Harry had gotten very sick with his cancer and announced he would be stepping down. He passed away shortly thereafter. However the baton was passed I don't know, but it lost something in the transition. If you have any more issues from that era, I would love to read what BN reported on the 1st Napoles-Muniz fight and Rodolfo Gonzalez' title fights with Carmona-Navarro-Puddu. Thanks, dude. Those reports on Lopez-Stracey were terrific.

Scartissue[/quote]

I'll see what I can turn up Scartissue, like I say a lot of my collection has gone or didn't go back so far, but I'm in the process of hopefully re-building it, nostalgia is a wonderful thing!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 08:22
by Flump
bennie wrote:
Flump wrote:
scartissue wrote: Flump, thanks for posting this. I used to love reading Boxing News. Subscribed to it for years, but after Harry Mullan passed away it just never seemed the same under Claude Abrams. Perhaps the same editorial policies and such didn't jive with him. I gave it a year under Claude and let it lapse. I always loved the way BN writers would break a fight down and boldly make a prediction on a fight's outcome. This was great on Lopez-Stracey. Do you have a collection dating back?

Scartissue
Scartissue, I'm afraid a lot of my collection has been lost in house moves etc but I'm trying to pick up some stuff where possible, if there's anything else of West Coast interest I'll post it.

You're right about Claude Abrams, I remember a year or so before Mullan left BN Abrams' writing suddenly became more flamboyant and bold, then I realised why as Mullan was seemingly eased out of the door, Bennie would be better placed to know if there was anything underhand going on. Mullan and his staff in the 70's and 80's were talented, honest and produced a great paper. Abrams once proclaimed Roy Jones Jr as the greatest fighter of all time. I think I'll leave it at that....
Flump, did you use to post as Lamphey?
Not me I'm afraid Bennie, I'm a one name guy.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 09:02
by kikibalt
Flump wrote:
"nostalgia is a wonderful thing!"
For some of us oldies, that's all we have left.... :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 09:25
by bennie
Flump wrote:
bennie wrote:
Flump wrote: Scartissue, I'm afraid a lot of my collection has been lost in house moves etc but I'm trying to pick up some stuff where possible, if there's anything else of West Coast interest I'll post it.

You're right about Claude Abrams, I remember a year or so before Mullan left BN Abrams' writing suddenly became more flamboyant and bold, then I realised why as Mullan was seemingly eased out of the door, Bennie would be better placed to know if there was anything underhand going on. Mullan and his staff in the 70's and 80's were talented, honest and produced a great paper. Abrams once proclaimed Roy Jones Jr as the greatest fighter of all time. I think I'll leave it at that....
Flump, did you use to post as Lamphey?
Not me I'm afraid Bennie, I'm a one name guy.
There was a clued-up Welsh poster called Lamphey who told me he lost a lot of old BNs in house moves and divorces, etc, which is why I wondered. He doesn't post any more, sadly.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 12:39
by Cholo
kikibalt wrote:
Flump wrote:
"nostalgia is a wonderful thing!"
For some of us oldies, that's all we have left.... :lol:
Yeh, but you guy's were lucky you saw those old fights at the olympic and hollywood legion
Me i only read about them, too young.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 12:53
by BOXERJOSH
Cholo wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Flump wrote:
"nostalgia is a wonderful thing!"
For some of us oldies, that's all we have left.... :lol:
Yeh, but you guy's were lucky you saw those old fights at the olympic and hollywood legion
Me i only read about them, too young.
It was an era of boxing in L.A. that will never be repeated...the best fights were at the Olympic Auditorium! Thursday nights at the Olympic left me with no voice on Friday morning from all the cheering and screaming for my favorite fighter to win. :box: :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 13:21
by scartissue
Flump wrote:Flump, thanks for posting this. I used to love reading Boxing News. Subscribed to it for years, but after Harry Mullan passed away it just never seemed the same under Claude Abrams. Perhaps the same editorial policies and such didn't jive with him. I gave it a year under Claude and let it lapse. I always loved the way BN writers would break a fight down and boldly make a prediction on a fight's outcome. This was great on Lopez-Stracey. Do you have a collection dating back?

Scartissue
Scartissue, I'm afraid a lot of my collection has been lost in house moves etc but I'm trying to pick up some stuff where possible, if there's anything else of West Coast interest I'll post it.

You're right about Claude Abrams, I remember a year or so before Mullan left BN Abrams' writing suddenly became more flamboyant and bold, then I realised why as Mullan was seemingly eased out of the door, Bennie would be better placed to know if there was anything underhand going on. Mullan and his staff in the 70's and 80's were talented, honest and produced a great paper. Abrams once proclaimed Roy Jones Jr as the greatest fighter of all time. I think I'll leave it at that....[/quote]

Flump, I don't think it was so much under-handed as it was that Harry had gotten very sick with his cancer and announced he would be stepping down. He passed away shortly thereafter. However the baton was passed I don't know, but it lost something in the transition. If you have any more issues from that era, I would love to read what BN reported on the 1st Napoles-Muniz fight and Rodolfo Gonzalez' title fights with Carmona-Navarro-Puddu. Thanks, dude. Those reports on Lopez-Stracey were terrific.

Scartissue[/quote]

I'll see what I can turn up Scartissue, like I say a lot of my collection has gone or didn't go back so far, but I'm in the process of hopefully re-building it, nostalgia is a wonderful thing![/quote]

Thanks, Flump, much appreciated.

Scartissue

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 13:46
by kikibalt
BOXERJOSH wrote:
Cholo wrote:
kikibalt wrote: For some of us oldies, that's all we have left.... :lol:
Yeh, but you guy's were lucky you saw those old fights at the olympic and hollywood legion
Me i only read about them, too young.
It was an era of boxing in L.A. that will never be repeated...the best fights were at the Olympic Auditorium! Thursday nights at the Olympic left me with no voice on Friday morning from all the cheering and screaming for my favorite fighter to win. :box: :TU:
Back when I started going to the Olympic (late '40's) fite nite was on Tuesday nights, In the mid-'50's it was moved to Thursday nights....The legion was on Fridays, then moved to Saturdays....

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 31 Mar 2011, 15:34
by Panzerfaust
RIP Gil Clancy :(