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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 10:06
by THEHAMMER321
Thank you Frank and Rick for the kind words on my 44th birthday. :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 10:06
by CNorkusJr
Thanks Frank, I really never knew much about Jordan in his after-boxing life,other than his murder just appeared in the newspapers one day. I figured that the mob was retaliating after all those years.Maybe not.
What a troubled soul.


Hey Bennie- Got anything on the Khan-McCloskey fight coming up on the 16th.
In your neck of the woods I see.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 10:09
by CNorkusJr
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Thank you Frank and Rick for the kind words on my 44th birthday. :bow:
Oh ! to be 44 yrs old and in Las Vegas on my birthday. Good Luck "kid" ! :OhYes: :bow:
May you have many more too !!! :TU: :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 10:10
by THEHAMMER321
CNorkusJr wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Thank you Frank and Rick for the kind words on my 44th birthday. :bow:
Oh ! to be 44 yrs old and in Las Vegas on my birthday. Good Luck "kid" ! :OhYes: :bow:
May you have many more too !!! :TU: :TU:
Thanks Charlie. :TU: :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 10:11
by bennie
CNorkusJr wrote:Thanks Frank, I really never knew much about Jordan in his after-boxing life,other than his murder just appeared in the newspapers one day. I figured that the mob was retaliating after all those years.Maybe not.
What a troubled soul.


Hey Bennie- Got anything on the Khan-McCloskey fight coming up on the 16th.
In your neck of the woods I see.
McCloskey is unbeaten but a level below Khan, Charley, and a quick win wouldn't surprise me.

Happy birthday, Hammer.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 10:16
by THEHAMMER321
bennie wrote:
CNorkusJr wrote:Thanks Frank, I really never knew much about Jordan in his after-boxing life,other than his murder just appeared in the newspapers one day. I figured that the mob was retaliating after all those years.Maybe not.
What a troubled soul.


Hey Bennie- Got anything on the Khan-McCloskey fight coming up on the 16th.
In your neck of the woods I see.
McCloskey is unbeaten but a level below Khan, Charley, and a quick win wouldn't surprise me.

Happy birthday, Hammer.
Thanks Bennie. :TU: :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 12:22
by kikibalt
Flump wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote: Frank did the ref rule the last knockdown a slip or did he rule all of the knockdowns slips ? . :witzend:
Just the last one, he gave Moore the 8 count on the first two, on the third; Moore without the ref's help wouldn't have been able to get up on his own...damn ref picked moore up!!.... :witzend: ...I am still piss.... :OhYes:
Sorry if this makes you worse kikibalt but this was the Boxing News report of the fight, thought you might like to see it, apologies in advance if you didn't, sounds like quite a scrap.

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Thanks Flump, first time reading this article, I had forgotten the points deduction on Tony. But Collins left out the third time that Moore hit the canvas in the first round, oh well, that was a long time ago....

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 12:23
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Tony Baltazar (middle top row) and his 6th grade flag football team, Tony was the QB.

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Circa 1968

Tony and his raggedy tags team won the league championship 3 years in a row.
Frank, I love these old photos that you post of your sons, or the Simons photos. Lots of good local history in your family. :TU:
Thanks Randy, for your kind words... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 14:13
by Rick Farris
Crossing paths with a Champ, literally . . .


I have the week off and I'm taking full advantage of the chance to resume my cross-training hikes in the Hollywood Hills above where I live in Studio City.
I had a good one yesterday, and was on the trail again this morning at about 7am.
I'm rarely alone on the trail, as Fryman Canyon is a popular spot for athletes to do their hillside work, as well as a number of celebs with their personal trainers, etc.

There are always a lot of hot ladies on the trail, and this morning was no exception.
As I made my way up the hill, in the distance I see a couple jogging down, coming my way.
The first thing that caught my eye was an incredibly beautiful little blonde bouncing down the path, alongside a pretty big guy.
Out of respect for the guy, I took my best look from as distance and then looked ahead as they came close.

As they approached, I gave myself one glance up at the little beauty and then looked over at the guy jogging beside her.
He glanced down at me and I suddenly recognized the face.
I nodded and said, "You're a great fighter. I've enjoyed watching you."
A smile came to his face, "Thanks, buddy!" We continued on our seperate ways..

You never know who you are likely run into when hiking Fryman.
The guy jogging with the hot blonde was MMA Star, Chuck Lidell.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 14:41
by raylawpc
Rick Farris wrote:Crossing paths with a Champ, literally . . .


I have the week off and I'm taking full advantage of the chance to resume my cross-training hikes in the Hollywood Hills above where I live in Studio City.
I had a good one yesterday, and was on the trail again this morning at about 7am.
I'm rarely alone on the trail, as Fryman Canyon is a popular spot for athletes to do their hillside work, as well as a number of celebs with their personal trainers, etc.

There are always a lot of hot ladies on the trail, and this morning was no exception.
As I made my way up the hill, in the distance I see a couple jogging down, coming my way.
The first thing that caught my eye was an incredibly beautiful little blonde bouncing down the path, alongside a pretty big guy.
Out of respect for the guy, I took my best look from as distance and then looked ahead as they came close.

As they approached, I gave myself one glance up at the little beauty and then looked over at the guy jogging beside her.
He glanced down at me and I suddenly recognized the face.
I nodded and said, "You're a great fighter. I've enjoyed watching you."
A smile came to his face, "Thanks, buddy!" We continued on our seperate ways..

You never know who you are likely run into when hiking Fryman.
The guy jogging with the hot blonde was MMA Star, Chuck Lidell.
Did they look something like this?

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According to my MMA expert son, the girl is Heidi Northcott, who was formerly Jose Conseco's main squeeze.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 16:47
by Rick Farris
raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Crossing paths with a Champ, literally . . .


I have the week off and I'm taking full advantage of the chance to resume my cross-training hikes in the Hollywood Hills above where I live in Studio City.
I had a good one yesterday, and was on the trail again this morning at about 7am.
I'm rarely alone on the trail, as Fryman Canyon is a popular spot for athletes to do their hillside work, as well as a number of celebs with their personal trainers, etc.

There are always a lot of hot ladies on the trail, and this morning was no exception.
As I made my way up the hill, in the distance I see a couple jogging down, coming my way.
The first thing that caught my eye was an incredibly beautiful little blonde bouncing down the path, alongside a pretty big guy.
Out of respect for the guy, I took my best look from as distance and then looked ahead as they came close.

As they approached, I gave myself one glance up at the little beauty and then looked over at the guy jogging beside her.
He glanced down at me and I suddenly recognized the face.
I nodded and said, "You're a great fighter. I've enjoyed watching you."
A smile came to his face, "Thanks, buddy!" We continued on our seperate ways..

You never know who you are likely run into when hiking Fryman.
The guy jogging with the hot blonde was MMA Star, Chuck Lidell.
Did they look something like this?

Image

According to my MMA expert son, the girl is Heidi Northcott, who was formerly Jose Conseco's main squeeze.
That's likely her, but I'm not certain? We were in the hills, they were jogging down the path toward me.
The one I saw today was small, very curvy, sexy, pretty face. She was huffing & puffing, looked good. What you'd expect to see with a champ. :OhYes:
Pretty women are common on Fryman, but an MMA legend is special.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 17:37
by kikibalt
Cholo wrote:Does anybody know how Chico Vejar is doing these day's, I've been watching Audie Murphy's World In My Corner where Vejar played the part of Al Carelli, also in the film were Cisco Andrade and Art Aragon.....
Paul, can't say that I know anything about what Vejar is up to now days..

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 17:41
by CNorkusJr
THEHAMMER321 wrote:
bennie wrote:
CNorkusJr wrote:Thanks Frank, I really never knew much about Jordan in his after-boxing life,other than his murder just appeared in the newspapers one day. I figured that the mob was retaliating after all those years.Maybe not.
What a troubled soul.


Hey Bennie- Got anything on the Khan-McCloskey fight coming up on the 16th.
In your neck of the woods I see.
McCloskey is unbeaten but a level below Khan, Charley, and a quick win wouldn't surprise me.

Happy birthday, Hammer.
Thanks Bennie. :TU: :TU:
Thanks Bennie. So I take $200 and bet on Tomasz Adamek (43-1,28 KOs) to KO Kevin McBride (35-8-1,29 Kos) on 4/09/2011 in New Jersey- then roll over the winnings on Khan over McClosky for an early end to their card in Manchester. Sounds good. :lol: :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 17:53
by CNorkusJr
raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Crossing paths with a Champ, literally . . .


I have the week off and I'm taking full advantage of the chance to resume my cross-training hikes in the Hollywood Hills above where I live in Studio City.
I had a good one yesterday, and was on the trail again this morning at about 7am.
I'm rarely alone on the trail, as Fryman Canyon is a popular spot for athletes to do their hillside work, as well as a number of celebs with their personal trainers, etc.

There are always a lot of hot ladies on the trail, and this morning was no exception.
As I made my way up the hill, in the distance I see a couple jogging down, coming my way.
The first thing that caught my eye was an incredibly beautiful little blonde bouncing down the path, alongside a pretty big guy.
Out of respect for the guy, I took my best look from as distance and then looked ahead as they came close.

As they approached, I gave myself one glance up at the little beauty and then looked over at the guy jogging beside her.
He glanced down at me and I suddenly recognized the face.
I nodded and said, "You're a great fighter. I've enjoyed watching you."
A smile came to his face, "Thanks, buddy!" We continued on our seperate ways..

You never know who you are likely run into when hiking Fryman.
The guy jogging with the hot blonde was MMA Star, Chuck Lidell.
Did they look something like this?

Image

According to my MMA expert son, the girl is Heidi Northcott, who was formerly Jose Conseco's main squeeze.
I dont know Tom. For a Non-fan of MMA & UFC you sure have alot of info and pictures at your disposal. :lol: :OhYes: Rumor has it you wear a "Two Men Enter,One Man Leaves" with "UFC cage" on the back Tee shirt around town.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 17:58
by CNorkusJr
Nigel Collins sounds very familiar. Did he cover boxing in NYC during the 70's and 80's anyone know ?. Seems I ran into him somewhere along the line-I cant put my finger on it though.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 18:12
by AlFrancis
Hello, I haven't posted on here before but I just wanted to say what a great thread. I'm the son of Alan Rudkin and I want to say thanks for all the kind words said about dad. It's 6 months now since he passed but it's still a great comfort

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 18:14
by Rick Farris
CNorkusJr wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Crossing paths with a Champ, literally . . .


I have the week off and I'm taking full advantage of the chance to resume my cross-training hikes in the Hollywood Hills above where I live in Studio City.
I had a good one yesterday, and was on the trail again this morning at about 7am.
I'm rarely alone on the trail, as Fryman Canyon is a popular spot for athletes to do their hillside work, as well as a number of celebs with their personal trainers, etc.

There are always a lot of hot ladies on the trail, and this morning was no exception.
As I made my way up the hill, in the distance I see a couple jogging down, coming my way.
The first thing that caught my eye was an incredibly beautiful little blonde bouncing down the path, alongside a pretty big guy.
Out of respect for the guy, I took my best look from as distance and then looked ahead as they came close.

As they approached, I gave myself one glance up at the little beauty and then looked over at the guy jogging beside her.
He glanced down at me and I suddenly recognized the face.
I nodded and said, "You're a great fighter. I've enjoyed watching you."
A smile came to his face, "Thanks, buddy!" We continued on our seperate ways..

You never know who you are likely run into when hiking Fryman.
The guy jogging with the hot blonde was MMA Star, Chuck Lidell.
Did they look something like this?

Image

According to my MMA expert son, the girl is Heidi Northcott, who was formerly Jose Conseco's main squeeze.
I dont know Tom. For a Non-fan of MMA & UFC you sure have alot of info and pictures at your disposal. :lol: :OhYes: Rumor has it you wear a "Two Men Enter,One Man Leaves" with "UFC cage" on the back Tee shirt around town.
:lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 18:19
by Rick Farris
AlFrancis wrote:Hello, I haven't posted on here before but I just wanted to say what a great thread. I'm the son of Alan Rudkin and I want to say thanks for all the kind words said about dad. It's 6 months now since he passed but it's still a great comfort

Your father was a helluva fighter!
I grew up following his career from the States, mosty thru The Ring magazine articles, etc.
I then met him briefly, when he was in L.A. to challenege Ruben Olivares for the bantam title.
I have also discussed him with another English boxer (from Liverpool) who currently lives in L.A. but who knew him, Allen Syers.
Anything you wish to share here relating to your father would be most appreciated.

-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 18:21
by Rick Farris
CNorkusJr wrote:Nigel Collins sounds very familiar. Did he cover boxing in NYC during the 70's and 80's anyone know ?. Seems I ran into him somewhere along the line-I cant put my finger on it though.

He's Editor of The Ring Magazine today, and a couple other boxing publications.
I'm sure he's the guy you remember, Charlie.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 21:49
by raylawpc
Rick Farris wrote:
CNorkusJr wrote:
raylawpc wrote: Did they look something like this?

Image

According to my MMA expert son, the girl is Heidi Northcott, who was formerly Jose Conseco's main squeeze.
I dont know Tom. For a Non-fan of MMA & UFC you sure have alot of info and pictures at your disposal. :lol: :OhYes: Rumor has it you wear a "Two Men Enter,One Man Leaves" with "UFC cage" on the back Tee shirt around town.
:lol:
Well, actually, I couldn't remember which MMA guy was Liddell, so I googled him and, when I pulled up his photos, I saw this one with the blonde and thought Rick would get a kick out of it.

My two sons each has one of those shirts.

But I repeat (in case you didn't hear me the last time I said it), I AM NOT AN MMA FAN!! :witzend: :wink: :witzend: :wink: :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 22:16
by Randyman
Paul, :TU: happy birthday my friend, all the best to you! :box:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 22:23
by Randyman
AlFrancis wrote:Hello, I haven't posted on here before but I just wanted to say what a great thread. I'm the son of Alan Rudkin and I want to say thanks for all the kind words said about dad. It's 6 months now since he passed but it's still a great comfort
Condolences again on your dad, six months is still fresh. Feel free to post about your father here or anything else you want. we cover almost every subject under the sun, including food. Welcome aboard :TU:

Randy :box:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 22:26
by Randyman
raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
CNorkusJr wrote: I dont know Tom. For a Non-fan of MMA & UFC you sure have alot of info and pictures at your disposal. :lol: :OhYes: Rumor has it you wear a "Two Men Enter,One Man Leaves" with "UFC cage" on the back Tee shirt around town.
:lol:
Well, actually, I couldn't remember which MMA guy was Liddell, so I googled him and, when I pulled up his photos, I saw this one with the blonde and thought Rick would get a kick out of it.

My two sons each has one of those shirts.

But I repeat (in case you didn't hear me the last time I said it), I AM NOT AN MMA FAN!! :witzend: :wink: :witzend: :wink: :witzend:
Boxing is my sport and I don't follow MMA/UFC but I gotta respect any man that can step up to the plate in their own discipline and become a champion. :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 22:37
by Bobbin & Weavin
kikibalt wrote:The Catastrophist: The Troubled World of Don Jordan

AUTHOR: Carlos Acevedo/Fanside


“Chaos” is the only suitable word to describe the career of Don Jordan. Fifty years after he first won the welterweight title, Jordan remains a mystery without a solution. Not only did Jordan bewilder spectators with his desultory performances, he also mystified trainers, sports writers, police officers, mobsters, and historians, few of whom have bothered to trace a career that reads more like a case study than the narrative of a boxer. Welterweight champion only long enough to make two defenses and accidentally TKO nefarious Frankie Carbo, Jordan left behind a legacy as befuddling as that of Iron Eyes Cody or D.B. Cooper. Like many fighters in the 1950s, Jordan was dogged by ties to mobsters, but it was his own instability that ultimately led to his spectacular crash.

Donald Lee Jordan was born on June 22, 1934, in Los Angeles to a sprawling family estimated to have had anywhere from between 18 to 22 children. Son of a former amateur boxer, Jordan revealed his wild side early, running with street gangs as a teenager and spending time in various reformatories. “ I wasn’t a tough kid,” Jordan once told Lee Greene. “I was real quiet. I just had one big fault. I liked to fight.” His nickname, “Geronimo,” was earned during his stint gang banging in the Russian Flats section of Boyle Heights in East L.A. Jordan dropped out of high school, married at age sixteen, and decided to put his fists to better use.

After a short stint in the amateurs, Jordan turned pro as a lightweight in California in 1953. A converted southpaw with a snappy jab and a busy left hook, Jordan won the State lightweight title less than two years after his debut, defeating Joe Miceli, Art Ramponi and former champion Lauro Salas on his way to a 20-2 record.

In 1955 Jordan lost two decisions to buzzsaw Art Aragon, and subsequently fell into a slump, dropping six of his next twelve fights. Although he managed to beat another ex-champion in faded Paddy Demarco, Jordan lost decisions to Jimmy Carter, Orlando Zulueta, Joey Lopes, LC Morgan, and, for the California State welterweight title, Charley “Tombstone” Smith. A slew of knockover fights in Mexico, where his fluent Spanish and ring finesse made him a popular draw, put Jordan back on track, and when he returned to Los Angeles he hooked up with a used car salesman named Don Nesseth, who turned Jordan over to trainer Eddie Futch and Jackie McCoy for development. An improved Jordan soon ran off a hot streak that included decisions over Isaac Logart and Gaspar Ortega.

Even with his career gathering momentum, Jordan was unable to curb his reckless nature. Bad habits, the kind that sabotage athletic pursuits, were modus vivendi for Jordan. “Not only did Jordan drink but he was a chain cigarette smoker,” recalled Jackie McCoy. “Not many fighters do that. This guy never stopped smoking. But somehow he won the welterweight title.” Jordan, however, did not draw the line at Martinis and Marlboros. In one of the strangest stories to ever come across police blotters involving a boxer, Jordan was arrested on November 8, 1958, for firing arrows from a 60-inch target bow at two women after a dispute. Jordan was booked for assault with a deadly weapon. A belligerent and obviously blotto Jordan could easily have been charged with resisting arrest as well. “While being questioned by detectives,” reported The Los Angeles Times, “Jordan tried to grab the bow and arrow after threatening to shoot the officers and a newspaper reporter-photographer team.” Charges were later dropped, but in time other problems, the kind endemic to boxing in the 1950s, would arise.

When Nesseth asked Jackie Leonard, matchmaker at the Hollywood Legion, to approach IBC viceroy Truman Gibson for big fight exposure for Jordan, he unknowingly set off a chain of events that would eventually change the course of boxing history. No sooner was Gibson in the mix than Jordan was matched up with rugged Virgil Akins for a shot at the welterweight championship. Akins, who won the vacant title by annihilating Vince Martinez in 1958, would be making his first defense against Jordan. Hard-punching “Honeybear” was considered “inconsistent,” one of several euphemisms tossed around boxing in the 1950s, but as a fighter with friends in low places, it is nearly impossible to say how much of his hit-and-miss career was legitimate and how much was not. On December 4, 1958, Jordan plastered the 3-1 favorite over 15 dirty rounds before 7,344 fans at the Olympic Auditorium to win the welterweight championship. His unexpected victory would have dramatic repercussions.

It is hard to imagine someone as erratic as Jordan–who was arrested for possession of marijuana only three weeks after winning the world title–causing the downfall of Frankie Carbo, but truth, as they say, is stranger than fiction. When Nesseth refused to give Carbo a “cut” of Jordan after the Akins match, “Mr. Gray,” along with malignant sidekick Blinky Palermo, resorted to threats. Threats gave way to action, and Jackie Leonard, mistakenly thought by Carbo to be a willing go-between for his underworld shenanigans with Jordan, was beaten senseless by unknown assailants for taking his jitters to authorities. Several arrests, indictments, and trials later, Carbo and Palermo were convicted of conspiracy and extortion for their schemes involving Jordan, and were each sentenced to long bids in prison. The mob stranglehold on boxing had been loosened, courtesy of a prizefighter for whom collateral damage was merely second nature. Even as Carbo and Palermo stewed on the witness stand, Jordan was partying with Mickey Cohen, posterboy of L.A. gangster chic, and drawing the enraged scrutiny of the California State Athletic Commission.

In 1959 Jordan defeated Akins in a rematch at the Kiel Auditorium in St. Louis and then made his second–and last–title defense a few months later against former sparring partner Denny Moyer in a dull and sparsely attended bout in Portland. For the Moyer fight Jordan, who often trained like a man with hypersomnia, weighed in at 148 and ½ pounds and had to sweat down to the limit. ”We never knew what kind of shape he would be for a fight,” Jackie McCoy told Dave Anderson. “Eddie Futch used to train him. When he was getting ready for a fight with Gaspar Ortega he came down with a terrible cold. I thought we should call off the fight, but Futch said, ‘No, he might show up in worse shape.’ Jordan, amazingly, finished strong and won.”

For the next few months Jordan alternated between night crawling through Los Angeles, battling his now ex-wife Stella in court, and testifying to grand juries about racketeers. Finally, the impulsive Jordan decided to make his own career moves. Against the advice of his managers–and with McCoy seeing his cut reduced to training fees only–Jordan went on a short winter tour of South America, where unknown Luis Federico Thompson promptly knocked him out in Argentina. Jordan blamed his first stoppage loss on a mysterious “virus” that might actually have been a combination of mononucleosis and Jake Leg.

Humiliated, Jordan returned to Los Angeles to recover over the holidays. Before long, however, he found himself in one rumpus after another. First, he was suspended by the California State Athletic Commission after refusing to appear for a physical without explanation; then he was arrested on a DWI charge after crashing into two parked cars; next Jack Urch of the Athletic Commission pointed the finger of suspicion directly at “The Geronimo Kid” by bluntly stating, “We want to know why Jordan persists on palling around with Mickey Cohen;” finally, Jordan incurred the wrath of the NBA when he preposterously agreed to a “tune-up” bout with journeyman Candy McFarland less than two weeks before a scheduled defense against Benny Paret. At odds with his brain trust and full of near-surrealist irrationality, Jordan turned down a $12,500 television date with Don Fullmer to face McFarland at Baltimore Stadium for under $1,400.

On May 16, 1960, after a rain delay of two days, McFarland, undistinguished but earnest, cuffed Jordan into a stupor over 10 rounds and copped an easy decision. “It was the best kind of work out I could have got,” Jordan blithely told the press. Oddsmakers immediately installed him as a 3-1 underdog against Paret.

By this time Jordan was considered not only a “cheese champ,” but serious trouble as well. Nevada state boxing commissioner Jim Deskin, vexed by the loose cannon about to step into the Las Vegas Convention Center, assigned a security detail of police detectives to stakeout the Jordan training camp. On May 27, 1960, in the first nationally televised bout from Las Vegas, Paret pounded Jordan over fifteen monotonous rounds. “As early as the fifth round…” reported Sports Illustrated, “it was clear that Don Jordan had lost everything but courage.” And courage was not nearly enough for the 4,805 spectators who booed intermittently as Paret churned away at a champion who could have doubled as a Penitente that night.

Never one for damage control, Jordan compounded his troubles by signing over his entire $85,000 purse for the Paret bout to co-managers Jackie McCoy and Don Nesseth in order to hook up with Las Vegas-based hotel impresario Kirk Kerkorian. “I’d fight ten times for nothing to get rid of Nesseth,” Jordan snarled. Kerkorian, a former amateur boxer, knew little about the labyrinthine world of prizefighting, and, it could be said, his signing of Jordan proved it. With lawyers hounding him for alimony payments, Jordan decided that he would need a little incentive to step into the ring and held promoters ransom for $2,000 in the dressing room. He got the payoff, but that was the last time Don Jordan had things his own way in the topsy-turvy world of boxing.

Over the next two years Jordan would hit the skids running and would win only 2 of his last 11 fights. The boxer with graceful footwork, snappy combinations, and a precision jab seemed to vanish overnight. Other than Carmen Basilio, Tony DeMarco, and Ludwig Lightburn, Jordan suffered his humiliating freefall at the hands of one middling pug after another. Finally, on October 5, 1962, Jordan hit bedrock after being “stopped” in the first round by Battling Torres at the Olympic Auditorium, where Jordan had won the welterweight title less than four years earlier. The California State Athletic Commission immediately suspected a fix and suspended him for life. Don Jordan, only 28 at the time of the Torres fiasco, never fought again. His final record stands at 51-23-1-1.

Today Don Jordan is all but forgotten. If he is remembered at all it is for the sudden tailspin that sent him crashing from welterweight champion to complete washout in less than two years. Why did such a talented boxer unravel so suddenly? Was it the drinking, the carousing, the smoking? Certainly other fighters—from Abe Attell to Harry Greb—burned candles at both ends without sputtering out so quickly. Did the strange virus he claimed was responsible for his loss to Luis Federico Thompson linger on and effect his performances? Or was it merely hard luck? The kind of luck a rough and tumble man like Jordan might believe was the only kind he could expect?

In 1973, over a decade removed from his short-lived and tumultuous heyday, Jordan earned more notoriety after a bizarre interview with Peter Heller. Akin to some of the jailhouse ramblings of Charles Manson, the former welterweight champion of the world claimed, among other things, to have been a paid assassin as a child in the Dominican Republic and to have been a factotum for the underworld throughout his career. One outlandish claim follows another until, finally, the question of veracity becomes moot. His answers are “true” insofar as they function as dark correlatives to his fractured psyche. “Winning the championship was the most awful experience of my life,” Jordan told Heller. “Believe me, it was awful. It was not a thrill to me. I was involved in certain situations, activities not to my advantage, shall we say. I was involved in certain things; to win was not as thrilling as I thought it would be as a fighter. When I lost it I was happy. I was more happy losing it than winning it.”

Boxers, like recently paroled felons, often have difficulty adjusting to the “outside” when their careers are over, and, in this respect, Jordan was no different. He struggled with alcoholism, divorced for a second time, and found it difficult to make a living. “I went from job to job,” he told The Los Angeles Times, “I was a swamper in a produce market, a machinist in the shipyards and a carpet layer. I found there were more people in public against me than there were when I was fighting.”

A few steady years working for Douglas Aircraft in Santa Monica were followed by a stint as a longshoreman in Wilmington. It was there, in the rugged waterfront district of Southern California, that Jordan was savagely beaten during a robbery on September 30, 1996. Two thugs attacked Jordan in broad daylight and left him for dead in a parking lot. Jordan lingered in a coma for nearly five months before dying on February 13, 1997. He was 62 years old. Two men suspected of the murder were later released due to insufficient evidence. His senseless and tragic death was a fitting exclamation point to the unruly life of a boxer who once muttered the bleakest of aphorisms: “But all man knows when he fights he must lose.”
We certainly don't lack for interesting stories in our sport do we gentlemen?
Bruce :OhYes:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 05 Apr 2011, 23:16
by CNorkusJr
Stop pulling your hair out Tom, just funnin' with ya'. :bow:

Though MMA & UFC is not my cup of tea either, you make a good point Randy- any man who
excels in his element or sport, more to him and my respect.