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kikibalt wrote:

Cholo wrote:

kikibalt wrote: And I am so old I saw all of them fight...

LOL Frank, i see Aragon starred in quite a few films, Art quote's in Off Limits that starred Bob Hope and Mickey Rooney he was supposed to pull a punch, but he broke Rooney's jaw..

Mickey Rooney and Art Aragon

Cholo wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Cholo wrote: LOL Frank, i see Aragon starred in quite a few films, Art quote's in Off Limits that starred Bob Hope and Mickey Rooney he was supposed to pull a punch, but he broke Rooney's jaw..

Mickey Rooney and Art Aragon

Thanks for the photo Frank, did you see the Basilio v Aragon fight at Wrigley Field in 1958, Art took a bit of beating i've seen footage of the fight and Art looked past his prime, but he still shook Basilio a couple of times..

Cholo wrote:
Mickey Rooney and Art Aragon
Thanks for the photo Frank, did you see the Basilio v Aragon fight at Wrigley Field in 1958, Art took a bit of beating i've seen footage of the fight and Art looked past his prime, but he still shook Basilio a couple of times..

Cholo wrote: Also Frank Off limits one of my favourite Bob Hope films, Bob at his best..

AlFrancis wrote:Thanks Rick, lovely story, you have some great memories. Did you see the Evan Armstrong's fight with Joe Medel by any chance? I believe it was a close fight and could of went either way. Dad met up with Evan a couple of years back. Dad also stayed in touch with Lionel and my mum visited him and his lovely wife Jenny only 18 months ago in Melbourne. Dad sent over a Liverpool football shirt for him with Rose emblazoned on the back. They sent each other video messages a couple of times over the years and dad met up with him and Fighting Harada back in 2004. I actually recorded a tribute from dad to Lionel only 2 days before dad passed. It was to celebrate Lionels induction as a living legend into the Australian Boxing Hall of Fame. The tribute was played on the big night after dad's death and I believe it was very moving for Lionel.
Thanks Charley I'll look at that site although I have got quite a few of dad's fight and uploaded all of the stuff that is on youtube. i've also got copies of dad's fights with Rudy Corona and Manny Elias.
Thanks for the welcome Scartissue, like you say we've met before on ESB.
Rick, I mentioned before that I met Alfonso Zamora and Carlos Zarate and I meant to ask them if they were ever in the gym together and sparred with Ruben when they were all with Cuyo Hernandez. I'd loved to of been a fly on the wall to see them sessions. Do you know anything about that?

kikibalt wrote:

Cholo wrote: Also Frank Off limits one of my favourite Bob Hope films, Bob at his best..

I don't believe that I've seen that movie...

Rick Farris wrote:

AlFrancis wrote:Thanks Rick, lovely story, you have some great memories. Did you see the Evan Armstrong's fight with Joe Medel by any chance? I believe it was a close fight and could of went either way. Dad met up with Evan a couple of years back. Dad also stayed in touch with Lionel and my mum visited him and his lovely wife Jenny only 18 months ago in Melbourne. Dad sent over a Liverpool football shirt for him with Rose emblazoned on the back. They sent each other video messages a couple of times over the years and dad met up with him and Fighting Harada back in 2004. I actually recorded a tribute from dad to Lionel only 2 days before dad passed. It was to celebrate Lionels induction as a living legend into the Australian Boxing Hall of Fame. The tribute was played on the big night after dad's death and I believe it was very moving for Lionel.
Thanks Charley I'll look at that site although I have got quite a few of dad's fight and uploaded all of the stuff that is on youtube. i've also got copies of dad's fights with Rudy Corona and Manny Elias.
Thanks for the welcome Scartissue, like you say we've met before on ESB.
Rick, I mentioned before that I met Alfonso Zamora and Carlos Zarate and I meant to ask them if they were ever in the gym together and sparred with Ruben when they were all with Cuyo Hernandez. I'd loved to of been a fly on the wall to see them sessions. Do you know anything about that?

Alan, I saw Evan Armstrong fight Chucho Casillo on the undercard of Rose-Medel title fight in 1968. I recall that Ruben Olivares made his U.S. debut that night with a KO over Bernabe Fernandez. Armstrong had fought Medel a few months previous in Mexico, and Castillo beat him up pretty bad before the fight ended in the second round. That was the only time I saw Armstrong fight. As for Zarate, Zamora and Olivares, I know that by the time he Z boys were making headlines in L.A. Olivares was already fighting featherweights. Also, Zamora had left the stable of Cuyo Hernandez by the time he fought in Los Angeles, and was trained by his father. There was a lot of jealousy relating to Zarate, Zamora and Hernandez. I heard the two Z boys did box together when under Hernandez guidance, and I had the pleasure of attending their great fight at the Forum years later. There was a lot of bad blood between the two boxers, and after the fight, Zamora's father got into a fight with Cuyo Hernandez in the ring. I remember Raul Cruz when he was a top bantam, and later as his career went downhill. He fought our pal Danny "Little Red" Lopez on the downside of that career. Manny Elias is a legend in Arizona, and was a helluva good bantam durring a long career. Rudy Corona fought for years in Mexico and thruout the world. I knew him from his many fights in L.A. and the Main Street Gym. Here is a little Rudy Corona trivia: his real name is Trinidad Lopez Amado. I remember learning that back in the 60's and have never forgotten.

AlFrancis wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

AlFrancis wrote:Thanks Rick, lovely story, you have some great memories. Did you see the Evan Armstrong's fight with Joe Medel by any chance? I believe it was a close fight and could of went either way. Dad met up with Evan a couple of years back. Dad also stayed in touch with Lionel and my mum visited him and his lovely wife Jenny only 18 months ago in Melbourne. Dad sent over a Liverpool football shirt for him with Rose emblazoned on the back. They sent each other video messages a couple of times over the years and dad met up with him and Fighting Harada back in 2004. I actually recorded a tribute from dad to Lionel only 2 days before dad passed. It was to celebrate Lionels induction as a living legend into the Australian Boxing Hall of Fame. The tribute was played on the big night after dad's death and I believe it was very moving for Lionel.
Thanks Charley I'll look at that site although I have got quite a few of dad's fight and uploaded all of the stuff that is on youtube. i've also got copies of dad's fights with Rudy Corona and Manny Elias.
Thanks for the welcome Scartissue, like you say we've met before on ESB.
Rick, I mentioned before that I met Alfonso Zamora and Carlos Zarate and I meant to ask them if they were ever in the gym together and sparred with Ruben when they were all with Cuyo Hernandez. I'd loved to of been a fly on the wall to see them sessions. Do you know anything about that?

Alan, I saw Evan Armstrong fight Chucho Casillo on the undercard of Rose-Medel title fight in 1968. I recall that Ruben Olivares made his U.S. debut that night with a KO over Bernabe Fernandez. Armstrong had fought Medel a few months previous in Mexico, and Castillo beat him up pretty bad before the fight ended in the second round. That was the only time I saw Armstrong fight. As for Zarate, Zamora and Olivares, I know that by the time he Z boys were making headlines in L.A. Olivares was already fighting featherweights. Also, Zamora had left the stable of Cuyo Hernandez by the time he fought in Los Angeles, and was trained by his father. There was a lot of jealousy relating to Zarate, Zamora and Hernandez. I heard the two Z boys did box together when under Hernandez guidance, and I had the pleasure of attending their great fight at the Forum years later. There was a lot of bad blood between the two boxers, and after the fight, Zamora's father got into a fight with Cuyo Hernandez in the ring. I remember Raul Cruz when he was a top bantam, and later as his career went downhill. He fought our pal Danny "Little Red" Lopez on the downside of that career. Manny Elias is a legend in Arizona, and was a helluva good bantam durring a long career. Rudy Corona fought for years in Mexico and thruout the world. I knew him from his many fights in L.A. and the Main Street Gym. Here is a little Rudy Corona trivia: his real name is Trinidad Lopez Amado. I remember learning that back in the 60's and have never forgotten.

Great stuff Rick I'm loving this. Like I said before Zamora, Zarate and Herrera were at Cardiff recently together and I did ask Alfonso if he and Carlos were now friends, I've seen the fight and the afters with his father and Cuyo Hernandez. He just smiled at me and said Alan we've been friends since we were kids. I think they've definitely buried the hatchet. it's great hearing about Manny Elias and Rudy Corona. Elias drew with Jofre in 65 in Brazil and I know Corona gave Rose a tough fight. Great name, why did he ever change it. Danny Lopez was a hero of mine as a kid growing up, what a brave man and hard as nails. The Ayala fight is one of my all time favourites. Another of my favourites is Alberto Davila, beautiful boxer, any inside info on him?
How do you upload photos on here Rick? I've got some good ones.

Rick Farris wrote:Another Albert Davila memory . . .

Recently Frank Baltazar and I posted memories of a junior amateur boxing event that was held in Las Vegas in 1967.
The matches were held in the afternoon at an auto race track, before a destruction derby kind of event booked for the evening.
The Baltazar boys lost, I lost, a couple kids I rode in with lost. I remember one L.A. kid that won, Albert Davila. And he won big.
Los Angeles may have lost some fights, but it was an L.A. guy voted "Boxer of the Night" . . . Albert Davila.

Chuck1052 wrote:Rick, I felt that I was almost alone in being a fan of Alberto Davila at the time he was a professional boxer. He certainly didn't have much of a following in the L.A. area. But I loved to see Davila in action because he had such a beautiful boxing style and knew exactly what to do at almost every moment when he was in the ring. It was really fun seeing Davila box very aggressive fighters, enabling him to display many of his skills to great effect.

Davila's second bout with Frankie Duarte certainly was memorable, but his two bouts with Lupe Pintor really stand out in my mind. I saw their first bout in person at the Forum. Pintor was aggressive with Davila giving him a boxing lesson and winning the decision after ten rounds. At work, I saw their second bout on television, a fifteen-rounder with Pintor's title on the line. In a great bout, Davila boxed beautifully and won the first seven rounds, but Pintor came back during the last eight rounds and won a narrow decision.

- Chuck Johnston

kikibalt wrote:

Ric, that's Sugar Ramos with Joe Rafiu King
July 13, 1963, Mexico City...WBC Featherweight title fight

Ric wrote:How about this photo of Eddie Machen and Mike DeJohn from this fight?

Chuck1052 wrote:Rick, I felt that I was almost alone in being a fan of Alberto Davila at the time he was a professional boxer. He certainly didn't have much of a following in the L.A. area. But I loved to see Davila in action because he had such a beautiful boxing style and knew exactly what to do at almost every moment when he was in the ring. It was really fun seeing Davila box very aggressive fighters, enabling him to display many of his skills to great effect.

Davila's second bout with Frankie Duarte certainly was memorable, but his two bouts with Lupe Pintor really stand out in my mind. I saw their first bout in person at the Forum. Pintor was aggressive with Davila giving him a boxing lesson and winning the decision after ten rounds. At work, I saw their second bout on television, a fifteen-rounder with Pintor's title on the line. In a great bout, Davila boxed beautifully and won the first seven rounds, but Pintor came back during the last eight rounds and won a narrow decision.

- Chuck Johnston

Cholo wrote:Rick, I remember Tony Cerda jr he fought Mark Kaylor a couple of times, if i remember rightly he won on DQ in the first fight
after Kaylor KO'D him after the bell, the 2nd fight was on the undercard of Witherspoon v Bruno at Wembley Stadium in 1986, i think he was stopped in 6 in that one, didn't he also fight Wilfred Benitez..

kikibalt wrote:

Ric wrote:How about this photo of Eddie Machen and Mike DeJohn from this fight?

Notice the Flores gloves?...Don't make anymore since Ray Flores died...