handsofstone wrote: ↑28 Oct 2022, 02:55
Michael Grant vs Andrew Golota
Geez that fight had the worst of both fighters. A real head scratcher with the 'foul pole' giving up first sign of adversity after practically dominating the vulnerable Grant.
Yeh standard practice for Golota, dropped Grant twice in the 1st and surely must've been well ahead on the cards before Grant found a breakthrough in the 10th, sent Golota down , he got up but didn't want no more, so another quit, a strange strange fighter
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 29 Oct 2022, 09:58
by Ambling Alp II
It was a fun fight to watch until, the ending. both guys had some ability but some limitations as well. Guess you have to give Grant some credit for not giving up. Major quit job by Golota.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 29 Oct 2022, 11:42
by handsofstone
Golota is probably the maddest man in boxing ever, in a sport full of mad men, what he done in both Bowe fights still baffles me
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 29 Oct 2022, 12:49
by DrDuke
handsofstone wrote: ↑29 Oct 2022, 11:42
Golota is probably the maddest man in boxing ever, in a sport full of mad men, what he done in both Bowe fights still baffles me
I won't call him literally mad, he just wasn't enough hard mentally to overcome huge advercity, so he fouled or quitted often when he was in trouble.
handsofstone wrote: ↑29 Oct 2022, 11:42
Golota is probably the maddest man in boxing ever, in a sport full of mad men, what he done in both Bowe fights still baffles me
I won't call him literally mad, he just wasn't enough hard mentally to overcome huge advercity, so he fouled or quitted often when he was in trouble.
Yeh while I agree, he was doing great against Bowe but still found a way to get out
handsofstone wrote: ↑29 Oct 2022, 11:42
Golota is probably the maddest man in boxing ever, in a sport full of mad men, what he done in both Bowe fights still baffles me
I won't call him literally mad, he just wasn't enough hard mentally to overcome huge advercity, so he fouled or quitted often when he was in trouble.
Yeh while I agree, he was doing great against Bowe but still found a way to get out
They pleaded with him in the corner, no more body shots. Just didn't register.
I won't call him literally mad, he just wasn't enough hard mentally to overcome huge advercity, so he fouled or quitted often when he was in trouble.
Yeh while I agree, he was doing great against Bowe but still found a way to get out
They pleaded with him in the corner, no more body shots. Just didn't register.
What's your thoughts on why Golota did what he did? I just can't fathom it, it wasn't as if he was taking a trimming like Tyson was taking in the Holyfield rematch
Yeh while I agree, he was doing great against Bowe but still found a way to get out
They pleaded with him in the corner, no more body shots. Just didn't register.
What's your thoughts on why Golota did what he did? I just can't fathom it, it wasn't as if he was taking a trimming like Tyson was taking in the Holyfield rematch
I don't know, but the fact that he did it twice you'd have to think he's a few bricks short. Imagine how his team must have worked on him before the second fight and then he does it again. To me it ranks as one of the strangest things in boxing and that says a lot.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 31 Oct 2022, 15:58
by handsofstone
Andrew Golota vs Orlin Norris
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 31 Oct 2022, 21:03
by oogiebe
handsofstone wrote: ↑31 Oct 2022, 15:58
Andrew Golota vs Orlin Norris
handsofstone wrote: ↑31 Oct 2022, 15:58
Andrew Golota vs Orlin Norris
Never watched that one.
You haven't missed much, routine 10 round UD for Golota
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 01 Nov 2022, 02:55
by margaret thatcher
golota was a headjob, these guys just dont think like us so it's hard to figure them out. it wasnt just his quitting fights either, strange guy in general in his personal life too
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 02 Nov 2022, 16:48
by handsofstone
Chris Byrd vs Andrew Golota
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 03 Nov 2022, 01:08
by DrDuke
handsofstone wrote: ↑02 Nov 2022, 16:48
Chris Byrd vs Andrew Golota
Great fight. Golota came out prepared and motivated, but Byrd just was too slick for him. Different times I scored it in all possible ways.
handsofstone wrote: ↑02 Nov 2022, 16:48
Chris Byrd vs Andrew Golota
Great fight. Golota came out prepared and motivated, but Byrd just was too slick for him. Different times I scored it in all possible ways.
Yeh never scored but could've went either way, draw seemed a fair result, Golota boxed a cool composed fight for 12 rounds and was the bigger stronger guy and looked to impose himself on the much smaller Byrd who landed some nice sharp counters on the southpaw backfoot and done a good job defensively
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 03 Nov 2022, 16:44
by handsofstone
John Ruiz vs Andrew Golota
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 03 Nov 2022, 21:09
by oogiebe
handsofstone wrote: ↑03 Nov 2022, 16:44
John Ruiz vs Andrew Golota
handsofstone wrote: ↑03 Nov 2022, 16:44
John Ruiz vs Andrew Golota
Can't imagine that was a good watch.
Horrendous pal, Golota did drop Ruiz twice in the 2nd although only first was legit, he walked Ruiz onto a sweet right hand counter, cut across the chin and put him down nicely, not long after Ruiz got up Golota pushed him down and whacked him on back of head while down and ref inexplicably gave another count, Ruiz then lost a point in 4th for hitting Golota on blindside, after that it was a wrestling holding mauling mess, mostly initiated by Ruiz who would jab/grab, hook/grab, cross/grab, Golota wasn't much better and he was more guilty of leaning over Ruiz, the ref was constantly involved splitting them, no idea why he never took any points off, the holding never stopped, Ruiz ran out a close UD winner to retain his World Heavyweight title, near impossible to score
handsofstone wrote: ↑03 Nov 2022, 16:44
John Ruiz vs Andrew Golota
Can't imagine that was a good watch.
Horrendous pal, Golota did drop Ruiz twice in the 2nd although only first was legit, he walked Ruiz onto a sweet right hand counter, cut across the chin and put him down nicely, not long after Ruiz got up Golota pushed him down and whacked him on back of head while down and ref inexplicably gave another count, Ruiz then lost a point in 4th for hitting Golota on blindside, after that it was a wrestling holding mauling mess, mostly initiated by Ruiz who would jab/grab, hook/grab, cross/grab, Golota wasn't much better and he was more guilty of leaning over Ruiz, the ref was constantly involved splitting them, no idea why he never took any points off, the holding never stopped, Ruiz ran out a close UD winner to retain his World Heavyweight title, near impossible to score
I could never watch Ruiz. My fav Ruiz fight which I can watch over and over is Tua.
Horrendous pal, Golota did drop Ruiz twice in the 2nd although only first was legit, he walked Ruiz onto a sweet right hand counter, cut across the chin and put him down nicely, not long after Ruiz got up Golota pushed him down and whacked him on back of head while down and ref inexplicably gave another count, Ruiz then lost a point in 4th for hitting Golota on blindside, after that it was a wrestling holding mauling mess, mostly initiated by Ruiz who would jab/grab, hook/grab, cross/grab, Golota wasn't much better and he was more guilty of leaning over Ruiz, the ref was constantly involved splitting them, no idea why he never took any points off, the holding never stopped, Ruiz ran out a close UD winner to retain his World Heavyweight title, near impossible to score
I could never watch Ruiz. My fav Ruiz fight which I can watch over and over is Tua.
That's the difference between boxing in the 1990s and 1970s. In the 1970s, there would have been a Tua-Ruiz rematch. Ruiz had no desire for vengeance. Another reason not to watch him. Did I mention his style was quite dull?
Horrendous pal, Golota did drop Ruiz twice in the 2nd although only first was legit, he walked Ruiz onto a sweet right hand counter, cut across the chin and put him down nicely, not long after Ruiz got up Golota pushed him down and whacked him on back of head while down and ref inexplicably gave another count, Ruiz then lost a point in 4th for hitting Golota on blindside, after that it was a wrestling holding mauling mess, mostly initiated by Ruiz who would jab/grab, hook/grab, cross/grab, Golota wasn't much better and he was more guilty of leaning over Ruiz, the ref was constantly involved splitting them, no idea why he never took any points off, the holding never stopped, Ruiz ran out a close UD winner to retain his World Heavyweight title, near impossible to score
I could never watch Ruiz. My fav Ruiz fight which I can watch over and over is Tua.
Watching Toney box Ruiz's ears off for twelve rounds isn't too unpleasant a watch.
That's the difference between boxing in the 1990s and 1970s. In the 1970s, there would have been a Tua-Ruiz rematch. Ruiz had no desire for vengeance. Another reason not to watch him. Did I mention his style was quite dull?