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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 29 Aug 2023, 18:14
by Steveh583
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:05
Steveh583 wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 12:38 Fury’s too big and knows how to use his size, unlike AJ. Plus he’s an underrated body Puncher. He may even make It look easy. Usyk will certainly have faced nothing like it at heavyweight. Starting to think people overplay Usyk heavyweight campaign. Yeah he turned over AJ, but he was ripe for the picking
what's the closest fury has fought to someone like usyk? stylistically otto wallin maybe? that was a very rough night for him, certainly more than dubois was for usyk
Steve Cunningham maybe in stature/speed.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 29 Aug 2023, 18:16
by margaret thatcher
ya, kinda like a poor man's orthodox usyk, and he dropped fury on his butt and certainly had his moments. otter also tore fury's face up horribly and hurt him

seems to be a thing for fury to have more issues with these types. i think the first guy who dropped him was the same height as usyk too, rather than some giant

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 29 Aug 2023, 18:18
by Redback Rasta
Steveh583 wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:14
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:05
Steveh583 wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 12:38 Fury’s too big and knows how to use his size, unlike AJ. Plus he’s an underrated body Puncher. He may even make It look easy. Usyk will certainly have faced nothing like it at heavyweight. Starting to think people overplay Usyk heavyweight campaign. Yeah he turned over AJ, but he was ripe for the picking
what's the closest fury has fought to someone like usyk? stylistically otto wallin maybe? that was a very rough night for him, certainly more than dubois was for usyk
Steve Cunningham maybe in stature/speed.
That Cunningham fight was 10 years ago.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 29 Aug 2023, 18:19
by margaret thatcher
Redback Rasta wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:18
Steveh583 wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:14
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:05

what's the closest fury has fought to someone like usyk? stylistically otto wallin maybe? that was a very rough night for him, certainly more than dubois was for usyk
Steve Cunningham maybe in stature/speed.
That Cunningham fight was 10 years ago.
true, maybe in his pre boar days. i wonder why he chose boar over eggs

although otter wasnt over 10 years ago, it was the last southpaw he faced and he nearly got his face torn off. maybe just maybe a quick, mobile southpaw style is difficult for him

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 29 Aug 2023, 18:29
by Redback Rasta
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:19
Redback Rasta wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:18
Steveh583 wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:14
Steve Cunningham maybe in stature/speed.
That Cunningham fight was 10 years ago.
true, maybe in his pre boar days. i wonder why he chose boar over eggs

although otter wasnt over 10 years ago, it was the last southpaw he faced and he nearly got his face torn off. maybe just maybe a quick, mobile southpaw style is difficult for him
118-110, 117-111 and 116-112 :TU:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 29 Aug 2023, 18:30
by margaret thatcher
Redback Rasta wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:29
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:19
Redback Rasta wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:18

That Cunningham fight was 10 years ago.
true, maybe in his pre boar days. i wonder why he chose boar over eggs

although otter wasnt over 10 years ago, it was the last southpaw he faced and he nearly got his face torn off. maybe just maybe a quick, mobile southpaw style is difficult for him
118-110, 117-111 and 116-112 :TU:
ya, dropping 4 rounds, having his face absolutely torn up, and being hurt by a pound shop usyk. seems like the nandrolone king might have some southpaw issues just as much as usyk has any body shot or giant issues. that's why they gotta fight the fights, so we can see how it would really play out

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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 29 Aug 2023, 18:38
by Redback Rasta
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:30
Redback Rasta wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:29
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:19

true, maybe in his pre boar days. i wonder why he chose boar over eggs

although otter wasnt over 10 years ago, it was the last southpaw he faced and he nearly got his face torn off. maybe just maybe a quick, mobile southpaw style is difficult for him
118-110, 117-111 and 116-112 :TU:
ya, dropping 4 rounds, having his face absolutely torn up, and being hurt by a pound shop usyk. seems like the nandrolone king might have some southpaw issues just as much as usyk has any body shot or giant issues. that's why they gotta fight the fights, so we can see how it would really play out
Only one judge awarded Wallin 4 rounds. One of the other judges only awarded him 2.

It sure is hard getting traction for your hate when it is the undefeated heavyweight champion you are directing it at. Keep trying though, it is amusing :lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 29 Aug 2023, 18:43
by margaret thatcher
Redback Rasta wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:38
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:30
Redback Rasta wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:29

118-110, 117-111 and 116-112 :TU:
ya, dropping 4 rounds, having his face absolutely torn up, and being hurt by a pound shop usyk. seems like the nandrolone king might have some southpaw issues just as much as usyk has any body shot or giant issues. that's why they gotta fight the fights, so we can see how it would really play out
Only one judge awarded Wallin 4 rounds. One of the other judges only awarded him 2.

It sure is hard getting traction for your hate when it is the undefeated heavyweight champion you are directing it at. Keep trying though, it is amusing :lol:
no hate, just presenting the idea that fury has issues with southpaws, as evidenced through his tough night with fringe contender southpaw otter wallin. he was horrifically busted up, struggled to land clean, and was hurt in the final round. lots of people gave wallin 4 or more rounds by the way: https://eyeonthering.com/boxing/tyson-f ... tto-wallin

it's also amusing to see you ragging on conor benn while fanboying for king nandrolone :lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 29 Aug 2023, 18:44
by Redback Rasta
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:43
Redback Rasta wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:38
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Aug 2023, 18:30

ya, dropping 4 rounds, having his face absolutely torn up, and being hurt by a pound shop usyk. seems like the nandrolone king might have some southpaw issues just as much as usyk has any body shot or giant issues. that's why they gotta fight the fights, so we can see how it would really play out
Only one judge awarded Wallin 4 rounds. One of the other judges only awarded him 2.

It sure is hard getting traction for your hate when it is the undefeated heavyweight champion you are directing it at. Keep trying though, it is amusing :lol:
no hate, just presenting the idea that fury has issues with southpaws, as evidenced through his tough night with otter wallin. lots of people gave wallin 4 or more rounds by the way: https://eyeonthering.com/boxing/tyson-f ... tto-wallin

it's also amusing to see you ragging on conor benn while fanboying for king nandrolone :lol:
:lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 02:54
by big lennox
Before the Uysk vs Dubois fight, Frank said the winner will go on and challenge Fury early next year: " that will happen"



Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 02:59
by tonyevs
Who actually believes a word old fish-eyes says?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 03:50
by BigDoofus
big lennox wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 02:54 Before the Uysk vs Dubois fight, Frank said the winner will go on and challenge Fury early next year: " that will happen"


Usyk pulled out “injured” last year.
Let’s hope his horrific gonads injury doesn’t prevent it again.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 03:54
by The Gratest
Dangerous sport is boxing. Even the training can be treacherous. Remember when Fury rolled his ankle on a wild boar testicle someone had left lying on the floor when training for the Wlad rematch?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 04:34
by big lennox
BigDoofus wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 03:50
big lennox wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 02:54 Before the Uysk vs Dubois fight, Frank said the winner will go on and challenge Fury early next year: " that will happen"


Usyk pulled out “injured” last year.
Let’s hope his horrific gonads injury doesn’t prevent it again.
In fairness, last August, Fury mentioned boxing Chisora again. End result he boxed Chisora again.

Last year, Fury also talked about fighting Ngannou. End result he is fighting Ngannou next.

He's also mentioned Jones. So, Jones to follow Ngannou?

Who is your money on, Fury or Ngannou? Do you think it will be a close fight?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 09:00
by TheLeprechaun
Usyk wins. Fury is the most overrated boxer in heavyweight history.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 13:52
by Nightmare Roy
TheLeprechaun wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 09:00 Usyk wins. Fury is the most overrated boxer in heavyweight history.
Fury is decent, but when you hear Simon Jordan and co saying he this generational great and people saying he's the greatest ever it's just ridiculous, whats it based on? He's had handful of world title fights, and beat two world level fighters.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 13:57
by tonyevs
Nightmare Roy wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 13:52
TheLeprechaun wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 09:00 Usyk wins. Fury is the most overrated boxer in heavyweight history.
Fury is decent, but when you hear Simon Jordan and co saying he this generational great and people saying he's the greatest ever it's just ridiculous, whats it based on? He's had handful of world title fights, and beat two world level fighters.
Two world level fighters.

One of whom was knocking 40 yrs old and at the very end of a very long career. And another guy who is world level only because the contemporary quality of heavyweights is so bad.

Its very hard to imagine heavyweight world title level getting any worse ... but unfortunately it appears to be doing so. We mocked Tommy Morrison, Herbie Hides and Nik Valuev ... yet Morrison and Hide were a lot better to watch than most heavies today, and the guy lots say is the best heavyweight has a fight record probably worse than Nik Valuevs soon enough.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 14:35
by big lennox
A good article by Thomas Hauser:

" Well-run sports deliver the events that fans want, when they want them. Too often boxing does neither."

" But the bottom line is that Fury wouldn't sign on the dotted line. And Uysk was forced to fight a mandatory"

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/hauser ... -division/

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 14:42
by Nightmare Roy
big lennox wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 14:35 A good article by Thomas Hauser:

" But the bottom line is that Fury wouldn't sign on the dotted line. And Uysk was forced to fight a mandatory"

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/hauser ... -division/
Good read but when I read paragraph 5 Usyk's quotes, I read it in Borats voice and now it's just going around and around in my head.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 17:00
by BigDoofus
big lennox wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 14:35 A good article by Thomas Hauser:

" Well-run sports deliver the events that fans want, when they want them. Too often boxing does neither."

" But the bottom line is that Fury wouldn't sign on the dotted line. And Uysk was forced to fight a mandatory"

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/hauser ... -division/
A good article? Did Usyk sign on the dotted line or flee to Poland during negotiations?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 17:06
by jwfg
BigDoofus wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 17:00
big lennox wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 14:35 A good article by Thomas Hauser:

" Well-run sports deliver the events that fans want, when they want them. Too often boxing does neither."

" But the bottom line is that Fury wouldn't sign on the dotted line. And Uysk was forced to fight a mandatory"

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/hauser ... -division/
A good article? Did Usyk sign on the dotted line or flee to Poland during negotiations?
Why wasn't Fury available to fight in April?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 17:09
by margaret thatcher
I wonder who is going to pay fury the half a billion he's demanded

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 17:11
by jwfg
margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 17:09 I wonder who is going to pay fury the half a billion he's demanded
I wonder which charity he won't give it to?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 17:13
by margaret thatcher
:OhYes:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Who wins?

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 17:23
by The Gratest
BigDoofus wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 17:00
big lennox wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 14:35 A good article by Thomas Hauser:

" Well-run sports deliver the events that fans want, when they want them. Too often boxing does neither."

" But the bottom line is that Fury wouldn't sign on the dotted line. And Uysk was forced to fight a mandatory"

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/hauser ... -division/
A good article? Did Usyk sign on the dotted line or flee to Poland during negotiations?
Still in meltdown mode? :doh: :lol: :lol: