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Posted: **03 Nov 2018, 07:17**

If they start jabbing I think Wilder has the better jab.

Breland has been saying for years that in the gym, Wilder can box well.
Yet come fight night he swings for the fences.
Could be a more disciplined Wilder here.

Posted: **03 Nov 2018, 07:23**

hard to know, hes hardly shown a jab as more then a pawing setup for the right, he did jab stiv the first time but i have little doubt fury wouldve too

trainers talk there guys up all the time

Posted: **03 Nov 2018, 20:20**

Posted: **04 Nov 2018, 05:44**

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2018, 17:45

What podcast?

Posted: **04 Nov 2018, 06:00**

adamwillan wrote: ↑04 Nov 2018, 05:44
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2018, 17:45
What podcast?

Rogan's.

Posted: **04 Nov 2018, 16:27**

PredatorHayds wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 07:17 If they start jabbing I think Wilder has the better jab.

Breland has been saying for years that in the gym, Wilder can box well.
Yet come fight night he swings for the fences.
Could be a more disciplined Wilder here.

I think Wilder needs to come in and go for the points win. He can win this on points for me. Fury is going to fight not to be KO'd. The worse thing Wilder can do is sit around waiting for one shot. If he just keeps his jab hand extended somewhat and pops out the jab all night, Fury is just going to move around and pose and threaten but not commit. It's all about how wilder approaches it. He can make himself look terrible in this fight if he comes in with no discipline. Some fights you just have to take the boring win and move on. He will get the KO against Joshua. I don't think he'll have to go looking for it too much in that one. If he goes looking for it here he will be on the receiving end of some shots and some clowning to go with it.

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 10:13**

Some rumours about tyson and joe sparring, not true, joe is a class act, has helped massively in preparation, and he is a force to be reckoned with. Nobody got knocked out.
Rumours = false

— Ben Davison (@BenDavison_) November 4, 2018

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 11:12**

What rumours?

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 11:16**

Wa1nuts wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 11:12 What rumours?

The rumour was that Fury knocked out Joyce in sparring.

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 11:33**

the only person who got knocked out when fury and joyce sparred was joshua

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 12:57**

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 11:16
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 11:12 What rumours?
The rumour was that Fury knocked out Joyce in sparring.

I doubt many would have believed it anyway

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 13:18**

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 11:16
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 11:12 What rumours?
The rumour was that Fury knocked out Joyce in sparring.

Not a chance,Fury couldn't even knock himself out never mind Joyce

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 14:46**

bigjack wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 13:18
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 11:16
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 11:12 What rumours?
The rumour was that Fury knocked out Joyce in sparring.
Not a chance,Fury couldn't even knock himself out never mind Joyce

didn't he have a good go once ?

In all seriousness, when did Fury last stop someone ? And I don't count the last 2 pantomime shows .

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 15:08**

rd350lc wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 14:46
bigjack wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 13:18
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 11:16

The rumour was that Fury knocked out Joyce in sparring.
Not a chance,Fury couldn't even knock himself out never mind Joyce
didn't he have a good go once ?

In all seriousness, when did Fury last stop someone ? And I don't count the last 2 pantomime shows .

Christian Hammer nearly 4 years ago,doesn't ko people though,more like a wearing down job.

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 15:33**

bigjack wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 15:08
rd350lc wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 14:46
bigjack wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 13:18

Not a chance,Fury couldn't even knock himself out never mind Joyce
didn't he have a good go once ?

In all seriousness, when did Fury last stop someone ? And I don't count the last 2 pantomime shows .
Christian Hammer nearly 4 years ago,doesn't ko people though,more like a wearing down job.

And if he doesn't find a groove early he's going to be in a whole world of trouble against Wilder .

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 17:59**

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Nov 2018, 16:27
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 07:17 If they start jabbing I think Wilder has the better jab.

Breland has been saying for years that in the gym, Wilder can box well.
Yet come fight night he swings for the fences.
Could be a more disciplined Wilder here.

I think Wilder needs to come in and go for the points win. He can win this on points for me. Fury is going to fight not to be KO'd. The worse thing Wilder can do is sit around waiting for one shot. If he just keeps his jab hand extended somewhat and pops out the jab all night, Fury is just going to move around and pose and threaten but not commit. It's all about how wilder approaches it. He can make himself look terrible in this fight if he comes in with no discipline. Some fights you just have to take the boring win and move on. He will get the KO against Joshua. I don't think he'll have to go looking for it too much in that one. If he goes looking for it here he will be on the receiving end of some shots and some clowning to go with it.

You're a big Wilder believer with these predictions............outboxes Fury and KOs Joshua...............even though he is basically crap.

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 18:01**

rd350lc wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 15:33 And if he doesn't find a groove early he's going to be in a whole world of trouble against Wilder .

Agree with this, Wilder is dangerous early and Fury needs to establish his groove. I think he will, and win by late stoppage

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 18:02**

Fury is also winning the mind games easily in the pressers. He is great at this, as he showed against Vlad.

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 18:16**

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for wilders mind to get in his way.

Posted: **05 Nov 2018, 19:08**

dr_devious wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 17:59
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Nov 2018, 16:27
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 07:17 If they start jabbing I think Wilder has the better jab.

Breland has been saying for years that in the gym, Wilder can box well.
Yet come fight night he swings for the fences.
Could be a more disciplined Wilder here.

I think Wilder needs to come in and go for the points win. He can win this on points for me. Fury is going to fight not to be KO'd. The worse thing Wilder can do is sit around waiting for one shot. If he just keeps his jab hand extended somewhat and pops out the jab all night, Fury is just going to move around and pose and threaten but not commit. It's all about how wilder approaches it. He can make himself look terrible in this fight if he comes in with no discipline. Some fights you just have to take the boring win and move on. He will get the KO against Joshua. I don't think he'll have to go looking for it too much in that one. If he goes looking for it here he will be on the receiving end of some shots and some clowning to go with it.
You're a big Wilder believer with these predictions............outboxes Fury and KOs Joshua...............even though he is basically crap.

Fury is pretty crap mate. Pathetic fight vs Wlad, another crap fighter who Lewis would have done quicker than he did his brother Vitali.

This isn't a good era. We have a robotic Joshua holding belts, a stinker in Fury and a wild amateur in Wilder. All would have lost to Vitali even.

Lets not act like Fury or Joshua are miles better than Wilder. It's probably the worst state the heavyweight division has been in for quite a long time.

Posted: **06 Nov 2018, 05:16**

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 19:08
dr_devious wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 17:59
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Nov 2018, 16:27

I think Wilder needs to come in and go for the points win. He can win this on points for me. Fury is going to fight not to be KO'd. The worse thing Wilder can do is sit around waiting for one shot. If he just keeps his jab hand extended somewhat and pops out the jab all night, Fury is just going to move around and pose and threaten but not commit. It's all about how wilder approaches it. He can make himself look terrible in this fight if he comes in with no discipline. Some fights you just have to take the boring win and move on. He will get the KO against Joshua. I don't think he'll have to go looking for it too much in that one. If he goes looking for it here he will be on the receiving end of some shots and some clowning to go with it.
You're a big Wilder believer with these predictions............outboxes Fury and KOs Joshua...............even though he is basically crap.

Fury is pretty crap mate. Pathetic fight vs Wlad, another crap fighter who Lewis would have done quicker than he did his brother Vitali.

This isn't a good era. We have a robotic Joshua holding belts, a stinker in Fury and a wild amateur in Wilder. All would have lost to Vitali even.

Lets not act like Fury or Joshua are miles better than Wilder. It's probably the worst state the heavyweight division has been in for quite a long time.

I agree with the general sentiment of this.

There are some interesting fights out there making it competitive but the top level is very poor. 3 big guys with lots of weaknesses

Posted: **06 Nov 2018, 11:28**

Actually there's a metaphysical explanation of an unpcoming Fury's victory over Wilder.

Look at the magic of the numbers. Mike Tyson was 37-0-0, 33 KOs before facing Douglas and he was knocked out. Golovkin had 37-0-0, 33 KOs before facing Canelo and he was taken even both 0s by Canelo. Foreman had 40-0 before facing Ali and he was KOed. Now Wilder has the same 40-0 before facing Fury.

Wilder is in a big trouble. Mysterious force of numbers is against him. Like the curse of 37-0-0, 33 KOs spread from Mike Tyson to his middleweight analogue, the curse of 40-0 will spread from the one murderous HW puncher to his modern analogue. Bronze Bomber is destined to lose and get his 3rd place again. This time after Joshua and, of course, The Gypsy King!

40-1 is on the way!

Posted: **06 Nov 2018, 11:56**

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 19:08
dr_devious wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 17:59
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Nov 2018, 16:27

I think Wilder needs to come in and go for the points win. He can win this on points for me. Fury is going to fight not to be KO'd. The worse thing Wilder can do is sit around waiting for one shot. If he just keeps his jab hand extended somewhat and pops out the jab all night, Fury is just going to move around and pose and threaten but not commit. It's all about how wilder approaches it. He can make himself look terrible in this fight if he comes in with no discipline. Some fights you just have to take the boring win and move on. He will get the KO against Joshua. I don't think he'll have to go looking for it too much in that one. If he goes looking for it here he will be on the receiving end of some shots and some clowning to go with it.
You're a big Wilder believer with these predictions............outboxes Fury and KOs Joshua...............even though he is basically crap.

Fury is pretty crap mate. Pathetic fight vs Wlad, another crap fighter who Lewis would have done quicker than he did his brother Vitali.

This isn't a good era. We have a robotic Joshua holding belts, a stinker in Fury and a wild amateur in Wilder. All would have lost to Vitali even.

Lets not act like Fury or Joshua are miles better than Wilder. It's probably the worst state the heavyweight division has been in for quite a long time.

Agree this era is crap but Vlad definitely wasn't and I don't think Fury is either although he isn't good on they eye. Joshua is robotic but a very big unit that is hard to budge, and Wilder is a big puncher but is boxing technique is crap at top level.

Posted: **06 Nov 2018, 15:10**

I like this era, a lot. There's the big three, all of whom have different strengths and weaknesses and the fights between them are all pick ems. It's fascinating. Plus, the supporting pack of Whyte, Chizza, Pulev, PEDetkin, Parker, Miller etc is well balanced and exciting.

Yes the quality is a bit lacking but... finally...it's interesting! After the boredom of the Klitschko years and the utter dross of the mid 2000s (Chagaev, Ibragimov, Valuev, Liakovich, Briggs), this is the best heavyweight division we've had in a long time.

Posted: **06 Nov 2018, 19:29**

Quantrax wrote: ↑06 Nov 2018, 15:10 I like this era, a lot. There's the big three, all of whom have different strengths and weaknesses and the fights between them are all pick ems. It's fascinating. Plus, the supporting pack of Whyte, Chizza, Pulev, PEDetkin, Parker, Miller etc is well balanced and exciting.

Yes the quality is a bit lacking but... finally...it's interesting! After the boredom of the Klitschko years and the utter dross of the mid 2000s (Chagaev, Ibragimov, Valuev, Liakovich, Briggs), this is the best heavyweight division we've had in a long time.

I'm with you mate

I think the heavyweight scene is great at the moment

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