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Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:05
by HeavyHitters
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:03
diddy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:02
If you think Wilder won that fight you are utterly clueless about how to score boxing. Wilder won 3 rounds....4 is the most you can possibly stretch to. That would give him a draw. You cant rationally get to 5 rounds for Wilder, let alone SEVEN.
Punches are what get you points in Boxing. Not showboating, and clowning around. If Fury had fought like he did in the 6th and 7th early on then he'd have won, but he didn't. He played around like an idiot.
Exactly!! I score points for boxing skills and hard landing shots, and being the aggressor, not for showboating, dancing around and acting like a douche bag.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:06
by Mexi-Box
Anyone, anyone who scored this fight for Wilder should stop watching this sport. It was a clear Fury win. You can't give Wilder more than 3 rounds. Wilder was missing all damn night. He clearly needed a stoppage. Credit to him. He almost stopped Fury, but he obviously needed a stoppage to win that fight.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:06
by dagilechia
it was so easy to score, Wilder did nothing except of knockdowns, he won only knockdown rounds and maybe one more (round 4 as far as i remember) round but it would be already generous for him. even Klitschko did better vs Fury, except of knockdowns of course.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:07
by dickbelden
there will absolutely b a rematch & should b !
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:07
by punchoutsb
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:03
diddy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:02
If you think Wilder won that fight you are utterly clueless about how to score boxing. Wilder won 3 rounds....4 is the most you can possibly stretch to. That would give him a draw. You cant rationally get to 5 rounds for Wilder, let alone SEVEN.
Punches are what get you points in Boxing. Not showboating, and clowning around. If Fury had fought like he did in the 6th and 7th early on then he'd have won, but he didn't. He played around like an idiot.
Punches are not the only thing that get you points in boxing, but in order for them to get you points they need to land. One guy clearly controlled this fight for all but two moments, it wasn't DW.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:07
by dagilechia
HeavyHitters wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:05
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:03
diddy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:02
If you think Wilder won that fight you are utterly clueless about how to score boxing. Wilder won 3 rounds....4 is the most you can possibly stretch to. That would give him a draw. You cant rationally get to 5 rounds for Wilder, let alone SEVEN.
Punches are what get you points in Boxing. Not showboating, and clowning around. If Fury had fought like he did in the 6th and 7th early on then he'd have won, but he didn't. He played around like an idiot.
Exactly!! I score points for boxing skills and hard landing shots, and being the aggressor, not for showboating, dancing around and acting like a douche bag.
what skills Wilder showed in this fight? he got clowned
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:08
by HeavyHitters
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:06
it was so easy to score, Wilder did nothing except of knockdowns, he won only knockdown rounds and maybe one more (round 4 as far as i remember) round but it would be already generous for him. even Klitschko did better vs Fury, except of knockdowns of course.
What are you smoking? Klitschko did almost nothing in their fight.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:08
by Quantrax
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 01:52
Wilder was one of the most hated fighters in boxing and after this fight he will be even more hated
Which is weird because he's a KO specialist, has plenty of swag and bling but is a really nice guy and a family man outside of the ring.
I don't understand why has hasn't connected with fans, he seems ideal for an American audience, even with his ....ahem.... unorthodox style. I really like the guy.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:08
by ironbeard
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:00
By the way, that was NOT the version of Fury that beat Klitschko. Fury looked horrible here, but Wilder just plain sucks. Credit to Fury for getting up, though. I almost shat myself.
I don't think Fury beats Joshua unless he somehow finds that magic again.
“Wilder sucks.” Yeah, I am the biased one. What a load of crap. Wilder out boxed, and out punched Fury.
Again, respect to Fury for coming back and making it the distance.
Honestly though, it was like if he made the distance people were going to argue he won. The absolute blind prejudice against Wilder is just amazing.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:09
by dagilechia
HeavyHitters wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:08
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:06
it was so easy to score, Wilder did nothing except of knockdowns, he won only knockdown rounds and maybe one more (round 4 as far as i remember) round but it would be already generous for him. even Klitschko did better vs Fury, except of knockdowns of course.
What are you smoking? Klitschko did almost nothing in their fight.
and what Wilder did in rounds 1-8, 10-11?
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:09
by HeavyHitters
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:07
HeavyHitters wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:05
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:03
Punches are what get you points in Boxing. Not showboating, and clowning around. If Fury had fought like he did in the 6th and 7th early on then he'd have won, but he didn't. He played around like an idiot.
Exactly!! I score points for boxing skills and hard landing shots, and being the aggressor, not for showboating, dancing around and acting like a douche bag.
what skills Wilder showed in this fight? he got clowned
Clowned? Which fighter was lying on his back two times?!
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:09
by gilgamesh
punchoutsb wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:07
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:03
diddy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:02
If you think Wilder won that fight you are utterly clueless about how to score boxing. Wilder won 3 rounds....4 is the most you can possibly stretch to. That would give him a draw. You cant rationally get to 5 rounds for Wilder, let alone SEVEN.
Punches are what get you points in Boxing. Not showboating, and clowning around. If Fury had fought like he did in the 6th and 7th early on then he'd have won, but he didn't. He played around like an idiot.
Punches are not the only thing that get you points in boxing, but in order for them to get you points they need to land. One guy clearly controlled this fight for all but two moments, it wasn't DW.
BS. Nobody clearly controlled sh*t in the first 4 rounds. Wilder threw more meaningful punches in those early rounds, Fury put his hands behind his back and played games. I'm not impressed. Clearly you guys are.
Whatever floats your boat I guess. I prefer fighting from my fighters.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:10
by dagilechia
ironbeard wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:08
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:00
By the way, that was NOT the version of Fury that beat Klitschko. Fury looked horrible here, but Wilder just plain sucks. Credit to Fury for getting up, though. I almost shat myself.
I don't think Fury beats Joshua unless he somehow finds that magic again.
“Wilder sucks.” Yeah, I am the biased one. What a load of crap. Wilder out boxed, and out punched Fury.
Again, respect to Fury for coming back and making it the distance.
Honestly though, it was like if he made the distance people were going to argue he won. The absolute blind prejudice against Wilder is just amazing.
WILDER OUTBOXED AND OUTPUNCHED FURY? REALLY????
Fury probably landed 2x more that Wilder (and he landed at least as clean as Wilder, probably cleaner)
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:11
by HeavyHitters
Quantrax wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:08
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 01:52
Wilder was one of the most hated fighters in boxing and after this fight he will be even more hated
Which is weird because he's a KO specialist, has plenty of swag and bling but is a really nice guy and a family man outside of the ring.
I don't understand why has hasn't connected with fans, he seems ideal for an American audience, even with his ....ahem.... unorthodox style. I really like the guy.
I agree. I just think he needs to drop the "bomb squad" yell.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:11
by dagilechia
HeavyHitters wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:09
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:07
HeavyHitters wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:05
Exactly!! I score points for boxing skills and hard landing shots, and being the aggressor, not for showboating, dancing around and acting like a douche bag.
what skills Wilder showed in this fight? he got clowned
Clowned? Which fighter was lying on his back two times?!
the one that clearly won 10 out of 12 rounds
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:11
by Mexi-Box
ironbeard wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:08
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:00
By the way, that was NOT the version of Fury that beat Klitschko. Fury looked horrible here, but Wilder just plain sucks. Credit to Fury for getting up, though. I almost shat myself.
I don't think Fury beats Joshua unless he somehow finds that magic again.
“Wilder sucks.” Yeah, I am the biased one. What a load of crap. Wilder out boxed, and out punched Fury.
Again, respect to Fury for coming back and making it the distance.
Honestly though, it was like if he made the distance people were going to argue he won. The absolute blind prejudice against Wilder is just amazing.
He learned nothing from getting outboxed by C- Szpilka. Yes, he does suck. You are obviously blind if you thought he won that fight. I can't fix stupid, sorry.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:12
by ironbeard
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:07
HeavyHitters wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:05
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:03
Punches are what get you points in Boxing. Not showboating, and clowning around. If Fury had fought like he did in the 6th and 7th early on then he'd have won, but he didn't. He played around like an idiot.
Exactly!! I score points for boxing skills and hard landing shots, and being the aggressor, not for showboating, dancing around and acting like a douche bag.
what skills Wilder showed in this fight? he got clowned
You are a clown. Wilder won more rounds and did more damage and knocked his opponent down twice.
The dude sticking his tongue out and laying on his back was the clown and clowned in that ring.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:13
by dagilechia
ironbeard wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:12
dagilechia wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:07
HeavyHitters wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:05
Exactly!! I score points for boxing skills and hard landing shots, and being the aggressor, not for showboating, dancing around and acting like a douche bag.
what skills Wilder showed in this fight? he got clowned
You are a clown. Wilder won more rounds and did more damage and knocked his opponent down twice.
The dude sticking his tongue out and laying on his back was the clown and clowned in that ring.
maybe i'm a clown but Stevie Wonder scores fights better than You.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:14
by Bard of Boxrec
The problem I have is that the best possible result I can see for Wilder is 115-111 for FURY which means Deontay gets three rounds.
I'd have to watch it again but I don't believe I could find another round for Wilder. Which one can you give him?
I guess there were some close ones early? Maybe one of those, but two?
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:14
by Bullza
You could see it in Wilders face as soon as the fight ended that he knew he'd lost.
That was the face of a man who knew full well he'd been outclassed.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:14
by marvelous marv
You really cant score a fight off of a TV screen. You have to hear the shots land.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:14
by HeavyHitters
If there is a 2nd fight to between Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury, I would hope that Deontay comes in around 225 to 230 next time. He seems too emaciated at 212.
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:16
by nmhz
Its a shame the scorecards are so far apart on big fights like this. There should be a better way to score boxing evenly with the judges
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:16
by dagilechia
Bullza wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:14
You could see it in Wilders face as soon as the fight ended that he knew he'd lost.
That was the face of a man who knew full well he'd been outclassed.
This
Re: Round-by-Round: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury - December 1, 2018
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:16
by punchoutsb
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:09
punchoutsb wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:07
gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:03
Punches are what get you points in Boxing. Not showboating, and clowning around. If Fury had fought like he did in the 6th and 7th early on then he'd have won, but he didn't. He played around like an idiot.
Punches are not the only thing that get you points in boxing, but in order for them to get you points they need to land. One guy clearly controlled this fight for all but two moments, it wasn't DW.
BS. Nobody clearly controlled sh*t in the first 4 rounds. Wilder threw more meaningful punches in those early rounds, Fury put his hands behind his back and played games. I'm not impressed. Clearly you guys are.
Whatever floats your boat I guess. I prefer fighting from my fighters.
Threw...not landed. I don't like all the clowning either, but making a guy miss is one of the points of boxing. Fury did that all night long but for two moments. He decided where the fight happened and how the fight happened.