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Finkel wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:36

ValMar wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:34

I can not agree. Wilder's basic weapon is his lethal punch power. Yesterday he has not been able to land one punch properly (and he has been hurt seriously in the third round). That's it.

Okay, I can admit I am perhaps being premature - I'm still drinking from watching the fight.
I guess we will call time on that particular conversation until his next fight.

ValMar wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:38

Finkel wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:20

Actually having watched the fight back.
The first knock down consisted of a lead left hook followed by a right. Wilder turned his back on the right, and Fury caught him across the top of the should blades. Wilder went down more off momentum than anything.

I think the ear shot was the next series of hooks a little later in the round.

I rewatched the fight this morning. It can not be clearly seen (I mean the first KD), but after this KD, Wilder has not been the same fighter, obviously. His legs have not obeyed his brain, surely.

BT sport (VPN) replayed the knock down, it was across his traps, then rode up to the back of the neck.
But I'm not disagreeing with you as such. I think he did take a shot to the ear in the 3rd that messed up his equilibrium for the rest of the fight.

Finkel wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:42

ValMar wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:38

I rewatched the fight this morning. It can not be clearly seen (I mean the first KD), but after this KD, Wilder has not been the same fighter, obviously. His legs have not obeyed his brain, surely.

BT sport (VPN) replayed the knock down, it was across his traps, then rode up to the back of the neck.
But I'm not disagreeing with you as such. I think he did take a shot to the ear in the 3rd that messed up his equilibrium for the rest of the fight.

Absolutely.............
My first association was - Ruiz vs. Joshua KD.

Rewatched this great fight. An outstanding performance by Fury. What a smart strategy he demonstrated. He was pressing forward with the superior jab, what was making Wilder uncomfortable. Wilder is used to lose rounds and target his money punch, but with Fury it was a different story. Fury was breaking Wilder down with his offence. Wilder was forced to throw all his best stuff early and Fury was neutrilizing Wilder with inside fighting. After the first KD Wilder was broken. Credit to Deontay for fighting until the end, yet I'm glad for The Gypsy King. Tyson is now back officially and inarguably.

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 12:20 Tyson is now back officially and inarguably.

I'm hopeful that all the threads about him ducking everyone are finally over...

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 12:24

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 12:20 Tyson is now back officially and inarguably.

I'm hopeful that all the threads about him ducking everyone are finally over...

His previous couple of fights were ducking only for casual fans or haters. It was obvious, that rematch was being marinated. Fighters don't duck other fighters and all of them are guided by their promoters.

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 12:28

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 12:24

I'm hopeful that all the threads about him ducking everyone are finally over...

His previous couple of fights were ducking only for casual fans or haters. It was obvious, that rematch was being marinated. Fighters don't duck other fighters and all of them are guided by their promoters.

Very clearly, but still over the heads of a few of our less astute posters (and a couple good ones...) flooding the boards over the past year. My suggestions that Fury was simply keeping busy to build the rematch were met with quite a few hoots...haven't heard back from them for a while

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 12:38

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 12:28

His previous couple of fights were ducking only for casual fans or haters. It was obvious, that rematch was being marinated. Fighters don't duck other fighters and all of them are guided by their promoters.

Very clearly, but still over the heads of a few of our less astute posters (and a couple good ones...) flooding the boards over the past year. My suggestions that Fury was simply keeping busy to build the rematch were met with quite a few hoots...haven't heard back from them for a while

Oh, yeah, after the first fight there was so many trash here in the comments about Fury. But what's up now, huh?

Blodhemn wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 02:15

punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 02:04

Fury has been for some time, but people love to overlook him. I agree, I’d still take DW over AJ.

One of the weirder things I've seen in fan reception is how nobody gave Fury credit for his easy time with Wlad, yet went nuts over AJ beating the already beaten.

I still don't give Fury any credit for Wlad. It wasn't a fight, it was a staring contest.

It's a big win on paper. Bigger on paper than it could ever be any other way for people that saw it.

ValMar wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:49

Finkel wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:42

BT sport (VPN) replayed the knock down, it was across his traps, then rode up to the back of the neck.
But I'm not disagreeing with you as such. I think he did take a shot to the ear in the 3rd that messed up his equilibrium for the rest of the fight.

Absolutely.............
My first association was - Ruiz vs. Joshua KD.

You're in denial.

He got beat up from the second round onwards

ewenhay wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:10

ValMar wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:49

Absolutely.............
My first association was - Ruiz vs. Joshua KD.

You're in denial.

He got beat up from the second round onwards

To be honest, I think Wilder won the second round.

ValMar wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:17

ewenhay wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:10

You're in denial.

He got beat up from the second round onwards

To be honest, I think Wilder won the second round.

I think Fury won every round. First was closest but his better work in the second half of the round edged it for me. Second round he stepped up the gas and from that point onwards Wilder was a dispirited and beaten man. Should have been stopped at the end of the 5th. He was done then

ewenhay wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:21

ValMar wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:17

To be honest, I think Wilder won the second round.

I think Fury won every round. First was closest but his better work in the second half of the round edged it for me. Second round he stepped up the gas and from that point onwards Wilder was a dispirited and beaten man. Should have been stopped at the end of the 5th. He was done then

The first and the second round were competitive. For me, Wilder was slightly beter fighter in the second round.
Anyway, Wilder has been done in the third round.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:09

Blodhemn wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 02:15

One of the weirder things I've seen in fan reception is how nobody gave Fury credit for his easy time with Wlad, yet went nuts over AJ beating the already beaten.

I still don't give Fury any credit for Wlad. It wasn't a fight, it was a staring contest.

It's a big win on paper. Bigger on paper than it could ever be any other way for people that saw it.

If only everyone could go out there and "outstare" Wlad like that. Fury confused Wlad and outboxed him. Wlad was a methodical boxer, who wouldn't do anything, if he was unsure in his safety and success. It was pure Fury's merit in putting Wlad in such position. If Wlad would be able to do something else, he would have done it. Fury worked from that point. He defeated Wlad with his weapon. By the way, I was watching it with a huge excitement just because it was something new: no one had ever seen Wlad being outboxed before. That was a great win for The Gypsy King.

Finkel wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:42

ValMar wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:38

I rewatched the fight this morning. It can not be clearly seen (I mean the first KD), but after this KD, Wilder has not been the same fighter, obviously. His legs have not obeyed his brain, surely.

BT sport (VPN) replayed the knock down, it was across his traps, then rode up to the back of the neck.
But I'm not disagreeing with you as such. I think he did take a shot to the ear in the 3rd that messed up his equilibrium for the rest of the fight.

I agree totally. Wilder never recovered from the shot to the ear. Still a great victory for the Gypsy King.

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:34

gilgamesh wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:09

I still don't give Fury any credit for Wlad. It wasn't a fight, it was a staring contest.

It's a big win on paper. Bigger on paper than it could ever be any other way for people that saw it.

If only everyone could go out there and "outstare" Wlad like that. Fury confused Wlad and outboxed him. Wlad was a methodical boxer, who wouldn't do anything, if he was unsure in his safety and success. It was pure Fury's merit in putting Wlad in such position. If Wlad would be able to do something else, he would have done it. Fury worked from that point. He defeated Wlad with his weapon. By the way, I was watching it with a huge excitement just because it was something new: no one had ever seen Wlad being outboxed before. That was a great win for The Gypsy King.

Yeah it was...on paper.

In real life it was one of the worst "fights" that ever took place in a Boxing ring.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:41

Finkel wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 10:42

BT sport (VPN) replayed the knock down, it was across his traps, then rode up to the back of the neck.
But I'm not disagreeing with you as such. I think he did take a shot to the ear in the 3rd that messed up his equilibrium for the rest of the fight.

I agree totally. Wilder never recovered from the shot to the ear. Still a great victory for the Gypsy King.

Yeah he looked a little off balance from that knockdown in the 3rd onward. I think he definitely had a busted ear drum, and that would throw your equilibrium off. He almost stopped throwing the right hand after a little while. I thought it was a good call for his people to stop the fight because he had just kinda become a punching bag with no answers in there.

Wilder's next few fights should be exciting as I imagine a lot more opponents will copy the 'ol "go right after him" strategy which will result in action one way or the other.

I thought it was very reminiscent of the first Joshua v Ruiz fight. Both champions finding their challengers more than a little problematic in the first two rounds, but each very much a part of a competitive contest. Then in the third round both took a shot to the side of the head that effectively ended the fight, even though both hung on for a few more rounds on sheer guts and determination.

Well done Tyson. You have again opened up the division to a host of new possibilities. It is no longer a closed shop. Well fought Wilder. No one could justifiably question your heart in the ring.

candyslim wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 14:12 I thought it was very reminiscent of the first Joshua v Ruiz fight. Both champions finding their challengers more than a little problematic in the first two rounds, but each very much a part of a competitive contest. Then in the third round both took a shot to the side of the head that effectively ended the fight, even though both hung on for a few more rounds on sheer guts and determination.

Well done Tyson. You have again opened up the division to a host of new possibilities. It is no longer a closed shop. Well fought Wilder. No one could justifiably question your heart in the ring.

I thought of Ruiz-Joshua 1 as well. AJ never recovered from the temple shot and Wilder never recovered from the ear shot but they both went on. It's like when Leonard hurt Hearns I believe in the 7th of their first fight, Tommy never completely recovered. I always thought the wild 4th round of Foreman-Lyle was because GF barely recovered from a hard right hand of Lyle's in the first round.

Ya similar fights, though of course this was already the rematch for fURY and Wilder so they already had time to adjust to one another

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:34

gilgamesh wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 13:09

I still don't give Fury any credit for Wlad. It wasn't a fight, it was a staring contest.

It's a big win on paper. Bigger on paper than it could ever be any other way for people that saw it.

If only everyone could go out there and "outstare" Wlad like that. Fury confused Wlad and outboxed him. Wlad was a methodical boxer, who wouldn't do anything, if he was unsure in his safety and success. It was pure Fury's merit in putting Wlad in such position. If Wlad would be able to do something else, he would have done it. Fury worked from that point. He defeated Wlad with his weapon. By the way, I was watching it with a huge excitement just because it was something new: no one had ever seen Wlad being outboxed before. That was a great win for The Gypsy King.

x2. Post Sanders Wlad fought scared. Fury outfoxed him. Was interesting to see Wlad resort to headbutts there.

Ive been saying for a couple years........to beat wilder , you have to take it to him , attack him , back him up. He wont know what to do.

Fury did just that.

Great job Gypsy King !!!!

The World Boxing Council have confirmed that both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder had passed all over their drug tests, that were administered by VADA [Voluntary Anti-Doping Association] and regulated by the WBC's Clean Boxing Program.

On February 22 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Fury stopped Wilder in seven rounds to capture the WBC heavyweight title.

"World Boxing Council heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, and Deontay Wilder, came out clean in the doping tests conducted by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association as part of the successful Clean Boxing Program. We want to thank both warriors and their respective teams for their willingness to sign up for the Clean Boxing Program and demonstrate that they are both exemplary athletes, who testify to their honesty and commitment to boxing," said the WBC as part of their official statement.

I'd have appreciated this fight even more if I'd known it was, you know... the last one.