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Fray Bentos wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 11:41

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 04:28

Fray Bentos wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 03:18

A 10000 sell out crowd, no two ways about it, it is going to change boxing. If it gets rid of one sided fights and mismatches because all people want to see are two evenly matched fighters then that's good.

No-one wants to watch a 60-54 fight ever again - the sooner boxing realises this then the sooner the sport can be saved.

The answer then is to make pro fights more equal in ability, not overpay and idolise YouTube stars in place of them. All this does is create more and more fake celebrity grudge matches. For me if they want to do it then fine but when they start calling them great fighters and paying them life changing money it just feels like a big money spinning scam.

Yes, you agree with me hence your first point.

Secondly, people want evenly matched fights which is why folk tuned into watch Fury vs Paul instead of Mayweather fornicating around in the exhibition - more skill was shown in half a round of that fight than the whole eight rounds of Fury vs Paul but so what?

Who's calling them 'great fighters'? I haven't heard anyone say that about them.

If people want to pay money to watch them then what's wrong with that?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:04 people want even fights, true, and jake vs tommy was that

but that said, i have no doubt something like paul vs ksi would do huge numbers and paul would batter him. same goes for something like paul vs pewdipie. paul is a lot hotter right now than floyd is

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:20

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:04 people want even fights, true, and jake vs tommy was that

but that said, i have no doubt something like paul vs ksi would do huge numbers and paul would batter him. same goes for something like paul vs pewdipie. paul is a lot hotter right now than floyd is

But why all the fascination with Jake Paul fighting different people? I just don’t get it, he’s one bloke who’s rinsing everyone and laughing about it and he can’t even box.. He will just keep calling people out and generating millions for himself, he doesn’t care if he wins or looses, I’m sure we would all fight if we were getting paid 30 million or whatever he made.

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:20

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:04 people want even fights, true, and jake vs tommy was that

but that said, i have no doubt something like paul vs ksi would do huge numbers and paul would batter him. same goes for something like paul vs pewdipie. paul is a lot hotter right now than floyd is

But why all the fascination with Jake Paul fighting different people? I just don’t get it, he’s one bloke who’s rinsing everyone and laughing about it and he can’t even box.. He will just keep calling people out and generating millions for himself, he doesn’t care if he wins or looses, I’m sure we would all fight if we were getting paid 30 million or whatever he made.

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:03

Fray Bentos wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 11:41

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 04:28

The answer then is to make pro fights more equal in ability, not overpay and idolise YouTube stars in place of them. All this does is create more and more fake celebrity grudge matches. For me if they want to do it then fine but when they start calling them great fighters and paying them life changing money it just feels like a big money spinning scam.

Yes, you agree with me hence your first point.

Secondly, people want evenly matched fights which is why folk tuned into watch Fury vs Paul instead of Mayweather fornicating around in the exhibition - more skill was shown in half a round of that fight than the whole eight rounds of Fury vs Paul but so what?

Who's calling them 'great fighters'? I haven't heard anyone say that about them.

If people want to pay money to watch them then what's wrong with that?

Metaphorically speaking in terms of being great. Interviewers blowing smoke up them and talking about them like they are better than they are, the guy who interviewed Jake after the fight called him a great champ, eh? I don’t have a problem with them doing it but I just think when they are headlining, earning tons more money, getting global exposure and opportunities than real fighters something isn’t right. The sad thing is it will continue to get bigger, I know three middle aged women with teenage kids who paid the PPV for that, they’ve never paid for a fight in their lives but did because their kids wanted to watch it. I don’t blame them for doing it, who doesn’t want to earn life changing money for one fight but I think it will end up making the sport worse.

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:20

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:04 people want even fights, true, and jake vs tommy was that

but that said, i have no doubt something like paul vs ksi would do huge numbers and paul would batter him. same goes for something like paul vs pewdipie. paul is a lot hotter right now than floyd is

But why all the fascination with Jake Paul fighting different people? I just don’t get it, he’s one bloke who’s rinsing everyone and laughing about it and he can’t even box.. He will just keep calling people out and generating millions for himself, he doesn’t care if he wins or looses, I’m sure we would all fight if we were getting paid 30 million or whatever he made.

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:20

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:04 people want even fights, true, and jake vs tommy was that

but that said, i have no doubt something like paul vs ksi would do huge numbers and paul would batter him. same goes for something like paul vs pewdipie. paul is a lot hotter right now than floyd is

But why all the fascination with Jake Paul fighting different people? I just don’t get it, he’s one bloke who’s rinsing everyone and laughing about it and he can’t even box.. He will just keep calling people out and generating millions for himself, he doesn’t care if he wins or looses, I’m sure we would all fight if we were getting paid 30 million or whatever he made.

gregregegg wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 15:25

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:20

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:04 people want even fights, true, and jake vs tommy was that

but that said, i have no doubt something like paul vs ksi would do huge numbers and paul would batter him. same goes for something like paul vs pewdipie. paul is a lot hotter right now than floyd is

But why all the fascination with Jake Paul fighting different people? I just don’t get it, he’s one bloke who’s rinsing everyone and laughing about it and he can’t even box.. He will just keep calling people out and generating millions for himself, he doesn’t care if he wins or looses, I’m sure we would all fight if we were getting paid 30 million or whatever he made.

Jake Paul built his way to being a masssive online presence… he could make 10 million taking a shit… and even in that position he properly commited to boxing. That’s why it’s him.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:32

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:20

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:04 people want even fights, true, and jake vs tommy was that

but that said, i have no doubt something like paul vs ksi would do huge numbers and paul would batter him. same goes for something like paul vs pewdipie. paul is a lot hotter right now than floyd is

But why all the fascination with Jake Paul fighting different people? I just don’t get it, he’s one bloke who’s rinsing everyone and laughing about it and he can’t even box.. He will just keep calling people out and generating millions for himself, he doesn’t care if he wins or looses, I’m sure we would all fight if we were getting paid 30 million or whatever he made.

i have no idea tbh..........i guess his formula just works with the 'influencer' fan base

tbf to him, i do kinda respect what he's done in boxing for a guy who was a youtuber who didnt start until like 20. and i dont mind a jake paul circus every now and then, but what i find grating is the proliferation of these misfits types events where theyre becoming more and more frequent

ashall2 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 04:19Watched 6 rounds of it on YouTube. Utter dross. Appalling standard and a split decision was predictable to set up a rematch... ‘this time the judges won’t be needed’ bla bla.

They’ll be amicable for a week then Team Paul will start claiming they were robbed, the beef will start again and it will be ‘this time it’s personal, this time I’m going to make sure it doesn’t go to a decision’ etc.

veriton wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 23:46 I like Jake Paul and I'm interested in what he does. He talks well and has shown dedication to boxing, including a risky fight with Fury.

Maywather v Pacquiao and Spence v Crawford show how badly wrong boxing can go. I'm going to lump Hatton v Witter into that too but plenty of other examples. At least these influences, like the women, are actually fighting each other.

dookus wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 18:30

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:32

Controversial wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:20

But why all the fascination with Jake Paul fighting different people? I just don’t get it, he’s one bloke who’s rinsing everyone and laughing about it and he can’t even box.. He will just keep calling people out and generating millions for himself, he doesn’t care if he wins or looses, I’m sure we would all fight if we were getting paid 30 million or whatever he made.

i have no idea tbh..........i guess his formula just works with the 'influencer' fan base

tbf to him, i do kinda respect what he's done in boxing for a guy who was a youtuber who didnt start until like 20. and i dont mind a jake paul circus every now and then, but what i find grating is the proliferation of these misfits types events where theyre becoming more and more frequent

I can't stand how much they get paid compared with actual professional boxers

KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 01:50

dookus wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 18:30

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 14:32

i have no idea tbh..........i guess his formula just works with the 'influencer' fan base

tbf to him, i do kinda respect what he's done in boxing for a guy who was a youtuber who didnt start until like 20. and i dont mind a jake paul circus every now and then, but what i find grating is the proliferation of these misfits types events where theyre becoming more and more frequent

I can't stand how much they get paid compared with actual professional boxers

It erks me too. Some of these guys have been grafting in the ring since primary school, giving up partying, being drug tested right through teens etc

Controversial wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 04:01 I saw John Fury was asked about the winner takes all contract and he refused to talk about it and went into his hard man routine trying to intimidate the interviewer, for all their tough talk and promises to sign it, it seems like they bottled it

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 04:07

Controversial wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 04:01 I saw John Fury was asked about the winner takes all contract and he refused to talk about it and went into his hard man routine trying to intimidate the interviewer, for all their tough talk and promises to sign it, it seems like they bottled it

To be fair dont blame them, anything could have happened, dodgey decisions or injuries or genuinely losing

Controversial wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 04:17

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 04:07

Controversial wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 04:01 I saw John Fury was asked about the winner takes all contract and he refused to talk about it and went into his hard man routine trying to intimidate the interviewer, for all their tough talk and promises to sign it, it seems like they bottled it

To be fair dont blame them, anything could have happened, dodgey decisions or injuries or genuinely losing

Yeah but then don’t make all the promises under the sun, you have my word as head of the Fury clan blah blah blah and then intimidate someone when they ask about it afterwards.

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 06:45 Tommy didn't want anything to do with the winner takes all scenario, it was his dad that stepped in and said they'd do it. Paul sent over the contract and Tommy refused to sign it.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 07:11 Fury was the ‘B’ fighter, he’d have been mad to agree to winner takes all against a massive celeb like Jake Paul. I’m still honestly surprised he was given the decision, was fully expecting dodgy scorecards.

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 06:45 Tommy didn't want anything to do with the winner takes all scenario, it was his dad that stepped in and said they'd do it. Paul sent over the contract and Tommy refused to sign it.