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mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 10:25

maverick23 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 10:18

mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 09:56
Me and my son.

That’ll be class. Are you going to drive it? I floated it to some mates but none were overly interested (a couple didn’t have a clue who Dubois was!). We did Klitschko vs Haye and Fury but all of have young kids now so harder to get away.

I’m flying direct from East Midlands. Under £100 for 3 nights at The Ibis at the stadium for us both.

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 11:16

jameswilson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 09:20

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 08:50 I liked Daniels demeanour & he actually opened his mouth and spoke quite confidently.

Oh well that’s ok then.

Would you prefer that he looked like a terrified man child?

big lennox wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 11:25

mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 10:25

maverick23 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 10:18

That’ll be class. Are you going to drive it? I floated it to some mates but none were overly interested (a couple didn’t have a clue who Dubois was!). We did Klitschko vs Haye and Fury but all of have young kids now so harder to get away.

I’m flying direct from East Midlands. Under £100 for 3 nights at The Ibis at the stadium for us both.

That is a fantastic deal. What a great occasion and memory for your son to have. Should be a great atmosphere on fight night.

jameswilson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 12:15

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 11:16

jameswilson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 09:20

Oh well that’s ok then.

Would you prefer that he looked like a terrified man child?

Are those the only two options?

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 13:59

jameswilson wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 12:15

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 11:16

Would you prefer that he looked like a terrified man child?

Are those the only two options?

We are not going to get much off a presser- I was just happy to see him look relatively relaxed and ready for work

deadpan wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 09:52 Wroclaw is a great place too. Krakow minus the stags.

polecateddy wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 05:48 Is it going to be one of those demonstrations of levels in boxing, with Usyk just boxing Dubios’ ears off? Or a demonstration of power, where the cruiserweight moving up gets run over eventually. For my money, Dubios probably is no better than long forgotten 90’s dangermen like Derrick Jefferson, and will get well beaten.

stevec@france wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 11:02 DDD has been badly managed by warren - should never have been in with Joyce it was way too soon in his career and the lerena fight was a farce - now he is ready to beat Usyk ???
Warren didnt even bother to go to the PR show yesterday and sent a TV presenter to represent his side .

stevec@france wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 11:02 DDD has been badly managed by warren - should never have been in with Joyce it was way too soon in his career and the lerena fight was a farce - now he is ready to beat Usyk ???
Warren didnt even bother to go to the PR show yesterday and sent a TV presenter to represent his side .

stevec@france wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 11:02 DDD has been badly managed by warren - should never have been in with Joyce it was way too soon in his career and the lerena fight was a farce - now he is ready to beat Usyk ???
Warren didnt even bother to go to the PR show yesterday and sent a TV presenter to represent his side .

gregregegg wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 16:53

stevec@france wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 11:02 DDD has been badly managed by warren - should never have been in with Joyce it was way too soon in his career and the lerena fight was a farce - now he is ready to beat Usyk ???
Warren didnt even bother to go to the PR show yesterday and sent a TV presenter to represent his side .

Was a decent favourite in the Joyce fight. Took a loss, has fought no one scary since, picked up a “world title” fucked about and now he is getting a couple of million and a punchers chance at 3 belts… in a fight where even if he gets absolutely destroyed no one will hold against him and he can absolutely rebuild and go again…. I think DDD has been very well managed.

gregregegg wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 16:53

stevec@france wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 11:02 DDD has been badly managed by warren - should never have been in with Joyce it was way too soon in his career and the lerena fight was a farce - now he is ready to beat Usyk ???
Warren didnt even bother to go to the PR show yesterday and sent a TV presenter to represent his side .

Was a decent favourite in the Joyce fight. Took a loss, has fought no one scary since, picked up a “world title” fucked about and now he is getting a couple of million and a punchers chance at 3 belts… in a fight where even if he gets absolutely destroyed no one will hold against him and he can absolutely rebuild and go again…. I think DDD has been very well managed.

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2023, 01:53

gregregegg wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 16:53

stevec@france wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 11:02 DDD has been badly managed by warren - should never have been in with Joyce it was way too soon in his career and the lerena fight was a farce - now he is ready to beat Usyk ???
Warren didnt even bother to go to the PR show yesterday and sent a TV presenter to represent his side .

Was a decent favourite in the Joyce fight. Took a loss, has fought no one scary since, picked up a “world title” fucked about and now he is getting a couple of million and a punchers chance at 3 belts… in a fight where even if he gets absolutely destroyed no one will hold against him and he can absolutely rebuild and go again…. I think DDD has been very well managed.

I get all of that and financially he’s been well manoeuvred since the Joyce loss. The fight against Bogdan Dinu for the WBA interim in the fight straight after Joyce was a master stroke.

However his opposition pre Joyce didn’t properly prepare him and I’d say the same now for the Usyk fight. Pre Joyce it was mostly unknown guys with pretty records but who were well out of their depth. Gorman was the only test but he’d been struggling with a poorly child in the run up which wouldn’t have helped him. Since Joyce, whilst I didn’t mind the Lerena none of them would be in a genuine world’s top 20 and now he’s facing one of the very best, if not the best.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 12:47

big lennox wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 11:25

mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2023, 10:25
I’m flying direct from East Midlands. Under £100 for 3 nights at The Ibis at the stadium for us both.

That is a fantastic deal. What a great occasion and memory for your son to have. Should be a great atmosphere on fight night.

Cheers. Yes, should be a good one, I love trying new places.

gregregegg wrote: ↑12 Jul 2023, 02:37

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2023, 01:53

gregregegg wrote: ↑11 Jul 2023, 16:53

Was a decent favourite in the Joyce fight. Took a loss, has fought no one scary since, picked up a “world title” fucked about and now he is getting a couple of million and a punchers chance at 3 belts… in a fight where even if he gets absolutely destroyed no one will hold against him and he can absolutely rebuild and go again…. I think DDD has been very well managed.

I get all of that and financially he’s been well manoeuvred since the Joyce loss. The fight against Bogdan Dinu for the WBA interim in the fight straight after Joyce was a master stroke.

However his opposition pre Joyce didn’t properly prepare him and I’d say the same now for the Usyk fight. Pre Joyce it was mostly unknown guys with pretty records but who were well out of their depth. Gorman was the only test but he’d been struggling with a poorly child in the run up which wouldn’t have helped him. Since Joyce, whilst I didn’t mind the Lerena none of them would be in a genuine world’s top 20 and now he’s facing one of the very best, if not the best.

in hindsite all thats true. But....

-At the time gorman was kinda rated at time... Bookies had DDD only a 60-40 favorite.
-At the time bookies had DDD a solid favotire vs joyce... Bookies had DDD an 80-20 favorite.
so its hard to say he was undercooked for joyce when not many people saw it untill afterwards

AS for being underprepared for usyk.... they tried. kevin lerena was a supurb pick if your trying to prepare for usyk.... 6,1 225lb southpaw.... its just that fight went weird so they didnt get much of the benifit (other than the camp).... so sure he probably isnt ready but his managment got him a smart prep fight but unfortunatly the mando got called bit early for them, but cant turn it down.... (ps it is very very likely that no version of DDD would ever be prepared for usyk...)

The good thing about being a bit undercooked for this usyk fight is, it should keep him raw, and if he loses he should be able to get back to world levle by the time usyk and Fury vacate or retire...