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Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 09:04 Smith barely threw a punch. Great for Eubank. But you cannot possibly say he wasn't compromised.

All the people saying last night was what they were expecting for the first fight are being a little dishonest.

Nobody predicted that Eubank would win every round and that Smith's output would be so low.

Not at all, why? Smith was a light middleweight, Eubank was a big middleweight and both were around the same level - I expected Eubank to use his jab, movement, superior reach and movement to do what he did. What Smith did to him surprised me far more than what Eubank did last night.

stevec@france wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 09:01

Coco wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 08:54 One of the things about being a pro is sucking up injuries, almost everyone is carrying something

Look at the stick JC got, and FW only put up with it because Calzaghe was so good.

The likes of Smith tend to get frozen out if they don't fight.

He made the weight and was fit, you gotta fight

he wasnt fit to fight ...
And said so himself afterwards too much quick weight loss / couldnt move / his corner screaming instruction to throw and he couldnt .

Then he should have pulled out. - I don't see how the weight loss is a factor though when that was down to Smith to monitor that and didn't he talk about the second fight being at 157lbs? At the aftermath of the first fight, he was saying if there was a rematch then he might ask for it at that weight.

The back/feet then fine - have a third fight at 168lbs and then that will stop the alibis.

I think Junior is getting an unfair bit of stick here.

He is a decent level operator (not elite) who has maximised his earning potential. He works hard, typically conducts himself well and has been in some decent fights.

I get the criticism of his call outs and the constant messing around with trainers/styles - but overall British Boxing is better off for having him.

Last night he put it all together. I don’t think enough recognition is given to the fact that in addition to draining weight for Benn he lost his brother in the build up to the last fight.

It’s also to his credit that he never used that as an excuse.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 09:27 I think Junior is getting an unfair bit of stick here.

He is a decent level operator (not elite) who has maximised his earning potential. He works hard, typically conducts himself well and has been in some decent fights.

I get the criticism of his call outs and the constant messing around with trainers/styles - but overall British Boxing is better off for having him.

Last night he put it all together. I don’t think enough recognition is given to the fact that in addition to draining weight for Benn he lost his brother in the build up to the last fight.

It’s also to his credit that he never used that as an excuse.

Exactly, it was an excellent win for him last night.

Smith and Shalom should hang their heads.

Putting on huge PPV fight when they knew the condition, or lack of it, he was in.

Simply a cash out for Smith. We'll not see him again in a big fight unless they throw him a bone for a rubber match

Easy money at the bookies at least

gregregegg wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 07:49

rd350lc wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 07:41 Both of Smith's ankles looked dodgy.
Why wear those short cut boots?!

agree, coms were talking about his right ankle, i saw him roll his left a couple times. afterwards he mentoned dodgey ankles (not an injury just shit anckles).... Why not have super tight laced high ankle boots then... very weird all of it.

Groves did an interview this morning on this, advising all young boxers to invest in the full high top boots.

642368 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 10:03

gregregegg wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 07:49

rd350lc wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 07:41 Both of Smith's ankles looked dodgy.
Why wear those short cut boots?!

agree, coms were talking about his right ankle, i saw him roll his left a couple times. afterwards he mentoned dodgey ankles (not an injury just shit anckles).... Why not have super tight laced high ankle boots then... very weird all of it.

Groves did an interview this morning on this, advising all young boxers to invest in the full high top boots.

Good advice, Smith should know better.

Surely a candidate for worst PPV of all time. I wouldn't bother dissecting the undercard but even the main event was a farce with one man refusing to throw or engage most likely injured.

Time for Sky to leave Boxing and stop conning fans these PPVs and shows are a disgrace.

There’s been so many terrible PPVs, they’re almost never worth the money and haven’t been for years. Anyone who still pays for them at this point is a total sucker.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 07:47

MasterG wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 03:50

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑02 Sep 2023, 19:52
Not as nice as Magpie fish and chips.

Over priced food both restaurants.

I'm on about the chip shops. The Magpie one next to their main restaurant and Trenchers the other side of the swing bridge.

Yes I know what you mean. Both over priced because of a name that's gone back years. Trenchers was owned by the Foster family in the 80s. They don't run it now so the name is being used to sell food. Don't know anything about Magpie but again it's nothing flash.

MasterG wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 11:36

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 07:47

MasterG wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 03:50

Over priced food both restaurants.

I'm on about the chip shops. The Magpie one next to their main restaurant and Trenchers the other side of the swing bridge.

Yes I know what you mean. Both over priced because of a name that's gone back years. Trenchers was owned by the Foster family in the 80s. They don't run it now so the name is being used to sell food. Don't know anything about Magpie but again it's nothing flash.

The Magpie fish and chip shop isn't that pricey compared to other places on the coast.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 11:22 There’s been so many terrible PPVs, they’re almost never worth the money and haven’t been for years. Anyone who still pays for them at this point is a total sucker.

Always on YouTube within a couple of hours max anyway .

rd350lc wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 12:47

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 11:22 There’s been so many terrible PPVs, they’re almost never worth the money and haven’t been for years. Anyone who still pays for them at this point is a total sucker.

Always on YouTube within a couple of hours max anyway .

Thats where I watched it.

Annoying that he mentioned triple G and Brook. Would rather see him go after Lara or Janibek for a strap

Interesting to see if Eubank keeps the jab in his repertoire, surely he must, added so much more to his game

wrighty wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 14:12 Annoying that he mentioned triple G and Brook. Would rather see him go after Lara or Janibek for a strap

Yes , he would be competitive in both on last night's performance.

I suppose it's back to .

rd350lc wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 04:25

KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Sep 2023, 19:31

rd350lc wrote: ↑02 Sep 2023, 18:58 Good night of boxing all told there .

Shalom comes in for a lot of stick , deserves a break sometimes.

Not in my book.
Did you watch the whole card?
The chick fights? Clarke Vs Allen?
Alim?

No I didn't, Clarke was the one sided beat down I expected in reality but they both played their part in a dull affair , what did Allen actually land ?
Didn't watch the lasses, never do.
did you watch Marku , Cullen , Eubank ?
people will always find negative .

Well I just judged the whole card is all. I try and find positives. And on a PPV the whole card counts for those of us where the money is important and some sort of value is hoped for.
And the first two hours were pretty bad mate. And the gaps between fights were looong
So yeah, a couple of good ones on the card, but for a PPV, and based on the last couple of PPVs I've grudgingly paid for, it was a bit crap.

I enjoyed the card. PPVs are rarely VFM but £20 isn't much these days compared to cinema and so on. 3/4 hours of boxing. Gaps we too long I get. I really enjoyed the Cullen fight. Marku fight was good albeit short. Clarke fight was disappointing and quite frankly bizarre. And I was really surprised in a good way by Eubank.

wrighty wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 14:12 Annoying that he mentioned triple G and Brook. Would rather see him go after Lara or Janibek for a strap

Had he mentioned Lara or Janibek, the crowd wouldn’t have reacted.

The crowd last night are fully aware or Brook and GGG.

Eubank isn’t worried too much about belts. He’s a money man. He wants money fights.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 15:01

rd350lc wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 04:25

KiwiRider wrote: ↑02 Sep 2023, 19:31

Not in my book.
Did you watch the whole card?
The chick fights? Clarke Vs Allen?
Alim?

No I didn't, Clarke was the one sided beat down I expected in reality but they both played their part in a dull affair , what did Allen actually land ?
Didn't watch the lasses, never do.
did you watch Marku , Cullen , Eubank ?
people will always find negative .

Well I just judged the whole card is all. I try and find positives. And on a PPV the whole card counts for those of us where the money is important and some sort of value is hoped for.
And the first two hours were pretty bad mate. And the gaps between fights were looong
So yeah, a couple of good ones on the card, but for a PPV, and based on the last couple of PPVs I've grudgingly paid for, it was a bit crap.

Can only say Kiwi that I didn't pay for it and that probably puts a different perspective on it .
Don't know what it costs in your country, but the yanks get stung big time .

something dfinetly off about Smith last night but heh , Eubank can only beat whats in front of him ,Smith did'nt box anywhere near his abilities , but Eubank boxed a lot better than he has been recently , something just seemed wrong with smiths legs , like they were not working all wobbly , which makes it a hard ponderous slow slug for him ,, will we see number 3 .

"This is obviously Chris' night. I had my night in January," Smith said. "I'm not taking nothing away from Chris this time round. This is his night." ....but....but...but :lol:

rd350lc wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 15:50

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 15:01

rd350lc wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 04:25
No I didn't, Clarke was the one sided beat down I expected in reality but they both played their part in a dull affair , what did Allen actually land ?
Didn't watch the lasses, never do.
did you watch Marku , Cullen , Eubank ?
people will always find negative .

Well I just judged the whole card is all. I try and find positives. And on a PPV the whole card counts for those of us where the money is important and some sort of value is hoped for.
And the first two hours were pretty bad mate. And the gaps between fights were looong
So yeah, a couple of good ones on the card, but for a PPV, and based on the last couple of PPVs I've grudgingly paid for, it was a bit crap.

Can only say Kiwi that I didn't pay for it and that probably puts a different perspective on it .
Don't know what it costs in your country, but the yanks get stung big time .

Cost a slab, or 24 bottles of beer or 7 loaves or regular bread, or 3 people to the movies. So quite a bit.

I suspect Eubank was on the juice here.

Think its fair to say Eubank boxed very well , different boxer when he's not doing a RJJ impersonation ,, but unfortunatly it was diluted by the fact Smith boxed shit , thats if you could say he even boxed at all , has opposed to just going in there fumbling around on slow ponderous legs that would'nt work .

If theres any critism it should be thrown excatly where it deserves to be thrown , and thats at Smith , his camp and the promoter , its obvious to anyone with half a brain it was'nt weight loss it was an injury , he was getting hammered from the start even if it was weight loss and fatigue kicking in he would of been OK FOR THE FIRST FEW RNDS then died .

So to go in with an injury to a PPV , tells us winning was'nt his biggest concern a payday was , it also tells us that this promoter does'nt give a shit about the paying public , he puts a night of shite fights on , i mean look at the Allen fight , talk about showing up for a exhibition , but then cultimates it with a obviously injured fighter taking a hiding to save his show and get a payday .

Once again British boxing at its best ,, alls i can say is thank god for streams , and firesticks , so i don't ever pay for the shite , and whatsmore i don't feel bad about it , what would happen if all that stream , payed instead , would it generate more money and better fights , would it bollocks just generate bigger profits ,

I do pay for the occasional one but there always , fights i really don't want to risk a stream going down and are very very rarely british fights . boxing is in dire straights all my local pubs DO NOT put the fights on anymore , managers have told me they always run at a loss with boxing , MMA different story there on all the time