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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 14:16
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:"To Hell And Back" . . .

The WW2 exploits of Medal of Honor winner, Audie Murphy. Murphy played himself.
Art Aragon played "Sanchez" one of Murphy's fellow soldiers. Art And Audie became tight friends from then on.
The movie is a good one, but one I haven't seen in years. I need to find it, and watch it this weekend.
I saw Audie Murphy at the Main Street Gym in 1970. He was with a young amateur, Randy Shields that day. Murphy died in a plane crash soon after.
Rick,I met Murphy in China Lake the nite you guys fought there.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 14:17
by kikibalt
Image

Georgina Aragon

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 14:19
by kikibalt
Image

Art "Golden Boy" Aragon

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 14:20
by Expug
Rick Farris wrote:The Amazing Golden Boy . . .

It's been a half century since Art Aragon last fought, more than three years since he passed on.
Aragon fought in a great era, one of the toughest in boxing history. Great welterweights were everywhere.
Art didn't win a world title, but his personality and image made him much bigger than the men who wore the world title belts.
How many champs were as popular and controversial as Art Aragon? I can only think of one, Muhammad Ali.
Just as Ali's legend lives on, so does Art Aragon's. It's alive and well right here, and this is the appropriate place.
And, as mentioned,he did a great job in the acting roll of "Babe" in "Fat City".
The man had talent and charisma to spare.
How many of todays fighters could pull that off.
Most of todays fighters I could only see working in a production put on by "Ringling Brothers and Barnumum Bailey"

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 14:24
by Cholo
Rick Farris wrote:
Cholo wrote:I know i've said it before and i'll say it again, can't somebody do a documentary on the "Golden Boy"..... :witzend:

It's a big undertaking. I believe there is a place for such a film (?), but it would involve a great deal of time & money to do it right.
Somebody with a passion for boxing, who loves that special era, and somebody who knows how to market the film in a way that will make if financially feasable.
As a film maker and a fan of Aragon & the era, I think it would be great, but I'm not the one to do it.
To be honest, there are only a handful of people with the knowledge to do it right, and with each day that passes that handful gets smaller.
I agree, Paul, it would make a great documentary.
Rick, I understand it would be a big undertaking, but Art deserves it, he was such a colorful character in a golden era.... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 14:27
by Rick Farris
Expug wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:The Amazing Golden Boy . . .

It's been a half century since Art Aragon last fought, more than three years since he passed on.
Aragon fought in a great era, one of the toughest in boxing history. Great welterweights were everywhere.
Art didn't win a world title, but his personality and image made him much bigger than the men who wore the world title belts.
How many champs were as popular and controversial as Art Aragon? I can only think of one, Muhammad Ali.
Just as Ali's legend lives on, so does Art Aragon's. It's alive and well right here, and this is the appropriate place.
And, as mentioned,he did a great job in the acting roll of "Babe" in "Fat City".
The man had talent and charisma to spare.
How many of todays fighters could pull that off.
Most of todays fighters I could only see working in a production put on by "Ringling Brothers and Barnumum Bailey"

:lol: :OhYes:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 14:28
by Cholo
kikibalt wrote:Image

Georgina Aragon
Frank, Georgina pretty lady, Art did okay.... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 14:32
by Cholo
Expug wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:The Amazing Golden Boy . . .

It's been a half century since Art Aragon last fought, more than three years since he passed on.
Aragon fought in a great era, one of the toughest in boxing history. Great welterweights were everywhere.
Art didn't win a world title, but his personality and image made him much bigger than the men who wore the world title belts.
How many champs were as popular and controversial as Art Aragon? I can only think of one, Muhammad Ali.
Just as Ali's legend lives on, so does Art Aragon's. It's alive and well right here, and this is the appropriate place.
And, as mentioned,he did a great job in the acting roll of "Babe" in "Fat City".
The man had talent and charisma to spare.
How many of todays fighters could pull that off.
Most of todays fighters I could only see working in a production put on by "Ringling Brothers and Barnumum Bailey"
Yeah, "Fat City", Art said he shoud have had an Oscar for his part as "Babe", i agree great film..... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 15:36
by kikibalt
http://youtu.be/xlR5fQqdnyc

Roy Jones gets knockout

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 15:49
by Expug
Jones needs to shut it down.
What was Smoger doing there? he looked dangerously indescisive. Step in there.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 15:51
by kikibalt
Expug wrote:Jones needs to shut it down.
What was Smoger doing there? he looked dangerously indescisive. Step in there.
Smoger need to stop refereeing fight, he is going to get some killed..... :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 15:52
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
Expug wrote:Jones needs to shut it down.
What was Smoger doing there? he looked dangerously indescisive. Step in there.
Smoger need to stop refereeing fight, he is going to get some killed..... :witzend:
Another incompetent. :witzend:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 15:55
by Expug
Roy didnt look good after that fight. Smoger should not have let that last punch land. This pisses me off big time man.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 17:13
by kikibalt
Is this true?

Oscar De La Hoya has entered a California rehab facility

Retired boxing legend Oscar De La Hoya has entered a California rehab facility to be treated for a substance abuse problem, TMZ reported Saturday.

Sources told TMZ that De La Hoya checked into the rehab facility within the last few weeks. The name and location of the facility and the nature of his substance abuse problem were not immediately known.

The 1992 Olympic Gold Medal winner has been active on Twitter in recent weeks.
On Friday, De La Hoya wrote, "Take a deep breathe and let out all that anger that makes you hate.it really is going to be o.k." and "Stop finding excuses not to live. life is controlled by what you make of it and not of what it makes of you."

De La Hoya had a career record of 39-6 and held several championship belts before retiring in 2009.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:17
by kikibalt
kikibalt wrote:Image

Art "Golden Boy" Aragon in training camp for his 1951 title fight vs Jimmy Carter

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Art on the left

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Art with Benny Conyers (L), don't know who the other guy is.
Audie Aragon: The guy in the photo with Benny Conyers is my father's step father Eddie Gallegos a famous Flamenco guitar player

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 21:07
by kikibalt
Hollywood Legion Stadium

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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 23:09
by Rick Farris
Hopkins-Pascal . . .

After posting about Art Aragon it's difficult to regress to contemporary boxing, but tonight we have a 46-year-old attempting to become the oldest boxer to ever win a world title.
I've never been a Bernard Hopkins fan, but he really was a standout compared to the weak lot being shoved down our throats by cable execs.
Pascal? He's a pretty good example of a contemp pretender, so I hope Bernard takes honors of geriatric superiority and whips the boring lad.
C'mon Bernard, show 'em that some of us old fu_ks can still get it up. :lol:
I think you can do it! Well, they are about to enter the ring, so . . .

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 21 May 2011, 23:21
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:Hollywood Legion Stadium

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Today it's a Balley's Fitness Center, on El Centro Street, just south of Hollywood Blvd.
But everytime I pass this legendary part of West Coast boxing history, I think about a man who was a part of the history.
He was the Legions PR man, then their matchmaker, then the promoter. He was a part of the "Goden Boy's" history.
We have been blessed here by Hap Navarro, I'm honored to be his friend. I love Hap Navarro. God Bless you, Hap. Happy 92nd!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 22 May 2011, 00:28
by Rick Farris
Congratulations Bernard Hopkins! :bow: :bow:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 22 May 2011, 05:33
by THEHAMMER321
Good morning all, how has everyone on here been, look forward to seeing everybody next month, for the last six years I played internet poker but the government shutdown April 15th changed all that, and that has been the reason for my absence on here as I know play in the casinos daily and will most likely come out to California a week early next month for the CBHOF luncheon to play a little poker at the bicycle club or the commerce. :TU: :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 22 May 2011, 07:04
by Cholo
Frank, I wonder if Don Fraser remembers this,
To stimulate interest in the Aragon-Danny Giovanelli fight at Hollywood Legion Stadium in March 1956, Don Fraser, the enterprising publicity man for the Stadium, facetiously signed Harvey Knox as Aragon's trainer.
Knox is the stepfather of the transient football star, Ronnie Knox. Harvey is known as quite a headline grabber himself, and the combination of Harvey and Art, however short-lived, unquestionably was the fastest talking team ever to set foot in a boxing ring.
After Art knocked out Giovanelli in the ninth round, the boxing writers covering the fight crowded into Aragon's dressing room to see who, Art or Harvey, was going to have the last word. Surrounded by so many newspapermen, Art and Harvey became dizzy with inspiration. Art said, "Harvey's a hell of a straight man, isn't he?" Harvey suddenly got into an argument with one of the sportswriters, Bud Furillo of the Los Angeles Herald-Express, for whom he had developed a dislike during the previous football season. Furillo said to Harvey, "You call yourself a second ? you don't even make a good third" Whereupon Harvey led with his right and socked Furillo on the jaw.
After other writers had seperated the two combatants, Aragon said in disgust, "That's Harvey -always trying to steal the glory." :lol: :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 22 May 2011, 07:39
by kikibalt
Cholo wrote:Frank, I wonder if Don Fraser remembers this,
To stimulate interest in the Aragon-Danny Giovanelli fight at Hollywood Legion Stadium in March 1956, Don Fraser, the enterprising publicity man for the Stadium, facetiously signed Harvey Knox as Aragon's trainer.
Knox is the stepfather of the transient football star, Ronnie Knox. Harvey is known as quite a headline grabber himself, and the combination of Harvey and Art, however short-lived, unquestionably was the fastest talking team ever to set foot in a boxing ring.
After Art knocked out Giovanelli in the ninth round, the boxing writers covering the fight crowded into Aragon's dressing room to see who, Art or Harvey, was going to have the last word. Surrounded by so many newspapermen, Art and Harvey became dizzy with inspiration. Art said, "Harvey's a hell of a straight man, isn't he?" Harvey suddenly got into an argument with one of the sportswriters, Bud Furillo of the Los Angeles Herald-Express, for whom he had developed a dislike during the previous football season. Furillo said to Harvey, "You call yourself a second ? you don't even make a good third" Whereupon Harvey led with his right and socked Furillo on the jaw.
After other writers had seperated the two combatants, Aragon said in disgust, "That's Harvey -always trying to steal the glory." :lol: :lol:
I'll call Don and ask him if he remember that. I remember the Knox's real good.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 22 May 2011, 07:47
by Panzerfaust
Eder Jofre at age 75 still going strong : http://mais.uol.com.br/view/eder-jofre- ... 70E0A11307

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 22 May 2011, 07:48
by Panzerfaust
@ Rick, loved the Mel Epstein memories :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 22 May 2011, 08:41
by Panzerfaust
Does anyone have a write up of the first Dwight Hawkins-Jose Becerra fight?? must have been a bit of a surprise how it turned out.. :box: