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Rick Farris wrote:GSBA Lunch . . .

Hey Frank, now that I'll be off work for awhile, I'd like to arrange to preview Alan Swyer's "Boxeo" at a Tuesday event.
Swyer contacted me, and offered the opportunity for me to preview the documentary to our friends, so long as not posted on the internet.
It's a way for some who were interviewed to get a first look.
It will pack the house, I know a lot of people who will attend for the first time. Many who were interviewed. They'll need more than one server that day.
I mentioned this to Don Fraser a few weeks back, and will run the idea past the Montalvo's.
It will be released later this year on HBO, so the GSBA event will preview the documentary prior to it's release date.
A nice gesture by Academy Award winner, Alan Swyer, to the boxing community that helped him create this film.

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:GSBA Lunch . . .

Hey Frank, now that I'll be off work for awhile, I'd like to arrange to preview Alan Swyer's "Boxeo" at a Tuesday event.
Swyer contacted me, and offered the opportunity for me to preview the documentary to our friends, so long as not posted on the internet.
It's a way for some who were interviewed to get a first look.
It will pack the house, I know a lot of people who will attend for the first time. Many who were interviewed. They'll need more than one server that day.
I mentioned this to Don Fraser a few weeks back, and will run the idea past the Montalvo's.
It will be released later this year on HBO, so the GSBA event will preview the documentary prior to it's release date.
A nice gesture by Academy Award winner, Alan Swyer, to the boxing community that helped him create this film.

Just let me know when and I'll be there....

kikibalt wrote:BOXING / EARL GUSTKEY : At 74, Flores Remains Guiding Light of Amateur Division in Southland

April 13, 1991|EARL GUSTKEY

Before World War II, there lived in Los Angeles a promising amateur featherweight named Johnny Flores.

Couldn't miss, folks said. He had already won some amateur tournaments when war came. Flores wound up as an Army infantryman, landing at Salerno, Italy.

Early one morning in 1944, Flores and five comrades sought refuge from German artillery fire in a small, abandoned farmhouse. But as the Germans began targeting the house, the six soldiers prepared to flee.

As they ran from the house, a round exploded directly above them. Five died instantly. By the time they got Flores to a field hospital, he was bleeding profusely from 33 shrapnel holes in his body.

But Johnny Flores survived. They gave him the purple heart, silver star and bronze star. He spent years recovering from his wounds, and never was able to resume boxing.

Instead, he turned to coaching young boxers, directing troubled kids into boxing gyms, organizing amateur boxing shows. Today, at 74, he still carries little chunks of steel in his body.

And in L.A., he is Mr. Amateur Boxing.

This week, he has been the major domo at something like his 750th amateur boxing tournament at the Lincoln Park Recreation Center gym. Tonight the finals of the 1991 Los Angeles Golden Gloves tournament will be fought.

Flores has no idea how many events he has run, or how many kids stayed out of trouble because he kept them in boxing gyms. So let's call it hundreds, in both cases.

Over the years, he has trained noteworthy pros, among them Jerry Quarry, Dwight Hawkins and Ruben Navarro. He has also seen countless promising prospects wash out along the way.

One boxer he has watched closely in this week's tournament is novice super-heavyweight David Luster, a 6-foot-4, 228-pound former linebacker at San Diego State. At 27, Luster began the tournament with only five amateur bouts.

Luster won Wednesday night, and will seek the L.A. Golden Gloves title tonight. If he wins, he will be on the L.A. team challenging the San Diego winners April 20. The North-South California Championships are April 27. Both the L.A.-San Diego and North-South events are at Lincoln Park.

Those winners will advance to the national Golden Gloves championships in Des Moines, Iowa, May 6-12.

Luster figures he is making up for a lack of experience by having picked Mercer Smith as his trainer. It was Smith who found Henry Tillman in a California Youth Authority boxing class and took him to a gold medal at the Los Angeles Olympics.

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Frank, it's 6:15am . . . You up?

I was up at 2:00 AM., Having a hard time lately....

Hope you feel better, Frank.

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:GSBA Lunch . . .

Hey Frank, now that I'll be off work for awhile, I'd like to arrange to preview Alan Swyer's "Boxeo" at a Tuesday event.
Swyer contacted me, and offered the opportunity for me to preview the documentary to our friends, so long as not posted on the internet.
It's a way for some who were interviewed to get a first look.
It will pack the house, I know a lot of people who will attend for the first time. Many who were interviewed. They'll need more than one server that day.
I mentioned this to Don Fraser a few weeks back, and will run the idea past the Montalvo's.
It will be released later this year on HBO, so the GSBA event will preview the documentary prior to it's release date.
A nice gesture by Academy Award winner, Alan Swyer, to the boxing community that helped him create this film.

Just let me know when and I'll be there....

I hope so, I need you to work the DVD player.

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Just let me know when and I'll be there....

I hope so, I need you to work the DVD player.

The last couple of times that I've tried using the DVD player there, it has not worked.

CNorkusJr wrote:Being that this is West Coast Forum- I thought you might like to see these.

In 1955, after my father fought Ezz Charles in NYC, he changed mgrs/trainers.
Marty Sampson bought his contract.
Marty Sampson had a distinguished middlewt career in the 30's & 40's my dad told me. He was ranked by Ring Magazine in the 1930's.
Later on he became a mgr & trainer to many boxers,my dad included. He was at his helm when my father fought Archie Moore in San Francisco-the two pictures you see below taken in San Fran. And the 2nd Charlie Powell fight in San Diego.
He also was in his corner for Joe Rowan and Willie Pastrano.

CNorkusJr wrote:I am having trouble identifying 3 boxers in the picture below -they may not be boxers-but most likely in the boxing game. Taken about 1957-1958 in Miami Beach,Fla. maybe somebody here can see if they recognize these men.
Any assistance greatly appreciated Charlie N

Rick Farris wrote:Arcel on Dempsey . . .

Ray Arcel considers Jack Dempsey the greatest heavyweight champ of all.
I just played a great audio interview with Arcel conducted by Barry Tompkins, that was sent to me by John Bardelli.
Arcel believed that the current heavyweights (at the time of the recording in the 90's) would have all lost to Dempsey, this includes Muhammad Ali.
Arcel saw them all up close and personal, so did Mel Epstein. Both of these old school trainers agree that Dempsey was the best they ever saw.
I've never believed Ali to be anything near "The Greatest" heavyweight of all times, but I credit him for tremendous courage and charactor.

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CNorkusJr wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Arcel on Dempsey . . .

Ray Arcel considers Jack Dempsey the greatest heavyweight champ of all.
I just played a great audio interview with Arcel conducted by Barry Tompkins, that was sent to me by John Bardelli.
Arcel believed that the current heavyweights (at the time of the recording in the 90's) would have all lost to Dempsey, this includes Muhammad Ali.
Arcel saw them all up close and personal, so did Mel Epstein. Both of these old school trainers agree that Dempsey was the best they ever saw.
I've never believed Ali to be anything near "The Greatest" heavyweight of all times, but I credit him for tremendous courage and charactor.

Dempsey was a Great Fighter, his record speaks for itself.
He would have done well against todays fighters because of his size too.

CNorkusJr wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Arcel on Dempsey . . .

Ray Arcel considers Jack Dempsey the greatest heavyweight champ of all.
I just played a great audio interview with Arcel conducted by Barry Tompkins, that was sent to me by John Bardelli.
Arcel believed that the current heavyweights (at the time of the recording in the 90's) would have all lost to Dempsey, this includes Muhammad Ali.
Arcel saw them all up close and personal, so did Mel Epstein. Both of these old school trainers agree that Dempsey was the best they ever saw.
I've never believed Ali to be anything near "The Greatest" heavyweight of all times, but I credit him for tremendous courage and charactor.

Dempsey was a Great Fighter, his record speaks for itself.
He would have done well against todays fighters because of his size too.

Cholo wrote:

CNorkusJr wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Arcel on Dempsey . . .

Ray Arcel considers Jack Dempsey the greatest heavyweight champ of all.
I just played a great audio interview with Arcel conducted by Barry Tompkins, that was sent to me by John Bardelli.
Arcel believed that the current heavyweights (at the time of the recording in the 90's) would have all lost to Dempsey, this includes Muhammad Ali.
Arcel saw them all up close and personal, so did Mel Epstein. Both of these old school trainers agree that Dempsey was the best they ever saw.
I've never believed Ali to be anything near "The Greatest" heavyweight of all times, but I credit him for tremendous courage and charactor.

Dempsey was a Great Fighter, his record speaks for itself.
He would have done well against todays fighters because of his size too.

Couldn't see him beating Ali, if Gene Tunney could outbox him, Ali of the late sixties was awesome, don't think we saw the best of Ali, because of Vietnam. Another thing Dempsey stayed clear of the better fighter's of his era, Harry Wills for one..

Rick Farris wrote:

Cholo wrote:

CNorkusJr wrote: Dempsey was a Great Fighter, his record speaks for itself.
He would have done well against todays fighters because of his size too.

Couldn't see him beating Ali, if Gene Tunney could outbox him, Ali of the late sixties was awesome, don't think we saw the best of Ali, because of Vietnam. Another thing Dempsey stayed clear of the better fighter's of his era, Harry Wills for one..

Harry Wills was a big, slow heavyweight, the kind Dempsey destroyed.
Dempsey did not avoid Wills, it was Tex Rickard. Dempsey would fight anybody.
The Color line of the era got in the way of this match.
Also, the Dempsey that lost to Tunney had been inactive for nearly three years.
Ali was easy to hit with a hook. Ali of the 60's fought smaller, older heavyweights who werepretty much flat footed.
During the three years of Ali's hiatus he stayed in shape boxing exhibitions, unlike Dempsey who made movies and lived a Hollywood lifestyle.
When matched with Frazier, we got a better idea of how Ali would do with a prime heavyweight with some ability.
I agree 100% with Arcel. Ray Arcel was a known for his ability to read boxers, and a brilliant stratigist. He also saw both fighters fight and train in person.
Tunney was brilliant, and lucky to have caught Dempsey a step off. Still, in reality, it has been proven that Dempsey should have been the first heavyweight to regain the title, and by KO. The "Long Count" prevented that. On another note, you bring up Tunney. What a brilliant boxer he was, huh? Dempsey is considered a "puncher", but in shape, Dempsey had great boxing skills. Much goes back to his best defense being a good offense. It never made sense to some that Gene Fullmer could dominate a Sugar Ray Robinson. Granted Ray was getting long in the tooth, but Fullmer had a style that was bad for Robinson, as crude as it looked. In 4 fights, Robinson only won the second. Fullmer beat him twice, one draw, in a match Don Fraser did the PR. I know we can't match fighters of different eras, so I'll stop this. We can agree to disagree on this one, Paul. And we'll never know for sure?

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Frank, it's 6:15am . . . You up?

I was up at 2:00 AM., Having a hard time lately....

Rick Farris wrote:Arcel on Dempsey . . .

Ray Arcel considers Jack Dempsey the greatest heavyweight champ of all.
I just played a great audio interview with Arcel conducted by Barry Tompkins, that was sent to me by John Bardelli.
Arcel believed that the current heavyweights (at the time of the recording in the 90's) would have all lost to Dempsey, this includes Muhammad Ali.
Arcel saw them all up close and personal, so did Mel Epstein. Both of these old school trainers agree that Dempsey was the best they ever saw.
I've never believed Ali to be anything near "The Greatest" heavyweight of all times, but I credit him for tremendous courage and charactor.

Panzerfaust wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Frank, it's 6:15am . . . You up?

I was up at 2:00 AM., Having a hard time lately....

God bless Frank, hope you start feeling better soon

Panzerfaust wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Arcel on Dempsey . . .

Ray Arcel considers Jack Dempsey the greatest heavyweight champ of all.
I just played a great audio interview with Arcel conducted by Barry Tompkins, that was sent to me by John Bardelli.
Arcel believed that the current heavyweights (at the time of the recording in the 90's) would have all lost to Dempsey, this includes Muhammad Ali.
Arcel saw them all up close and personal, so did Mel Epstein. Both of these old school trainers agree that Dempsey was the best they ever saw.
I've never believed Ali to be anything near "The Greatest" heavyweight of all times, but I credit him for tremendous courage and charactor.

Rick, is this interview available online? and is it long?
Ive only read a little bit from interviews of him where he talks boxing and found it to be gold