Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Randyman wrote:There's a guy who's in the market for a used motorcycle. He's shopping around, answering ads in the newspaper, and not having much luck. One day he comes across a beautiful classic Harley with a "for sale" sign on it. Upon inspection, he is amazed to find the bike in mint condition. He inquires about it with the owner:

"This bike is beautiful! I'll take it. But you gotta tell me how you keep it in such good shape. "Well," says the seller, "it's pretty simple. Just make sure that if the bike is outside and it's going to rain, rub Vaseline on the chrome. It protects it from the rain. In fact, since you're buying the bike I won't need my tube of Vaseline anymore. Here, you can have it." and he hands the buyer a tube of Vaseline.

So the guy buys the bike and off he goes, a happy biker. He takes the bike over to show his girlfriend. She's ecstatic (being a Harley fan).

That night, he decides to ride the bike over to his girlfriend's parents' house. It's the first time he's going to meet them and figures it will make a big impression. When the couple gets to the house, the girlfriend grabs her boyfriend's arm.

"Honey," she says, "I gotta tell you something about my parents before we go in. When we eat dinner, we don't talk. In fact, the person who says anything during dinner has to do the dishes."

"No problem," he says. And in they go.

The boyfriend is astounded. Right smack in the middle of the living room is a huge stack of dirty dishes. In the family room, another huge stack of dishes. Piled up the stairs, dirty dishes. In fact, everywhere he looks, dirty dishes. They sit down to dinner and, sure enough, no one says a word.

As dinner progresses, the boyfriend decides to take advantage of the situation. So he leans over and kisses his girlfriend. No one says a word. So he decides to reach over and fondle her breasts. He looks at her parents, but still they keep quiet.

So he stands up, grabs his girlfriend, strips her naked, and they make love right on the dinner table. Still, no one says a word.

"Her Mom's kinda cute", he thinks. So he grabs his girlfriend's Mom and has his way with her right there on the dinner table. Again, total silence.

Then, a few raindrops hit the window and the boyfriend realizes it's starting to rain. He figures he'd better take care of the motorcycle, so he pulls the Vaseline from his pocket. Suddenly the father stands up and shouts: "All right, all right! I'll do the damn dishes."
Randy, :lol: :lol:
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Rick Farris wrote:The memory of Jack Quarry's red head girlfriend brought this to mind . . .

"Scarlett"

Scarlett the Harlot, queen of the whores.
Pride of the Eastside, all covered in sores. :lol:
Rick, :lol:
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From The Ring, March 1958,
Ho, hum. Art Aragon, he's in again. This time it is manager trouble. Seems as how messers, Irving Berman and Mike Hirsch claim they have a "piece" of the Golden Boy, and they want $7,500 for there interest. Aragon's manager of record is Paul Caruso, the attorney who defended him in the mish-mash with Dick Goldstein.
What will happen? I dunno.
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From The Ring-April 1958,
A number of Los Angeles fight fans braved a heavy rainstorm to drive 60 miles to San Bernardino; the attraction, Art Aragon, erstwhile Golden Boy, vs Walter Tyler. It was Art's fourth "comeback" scrap: previous victims, Alex Cota, decision: Woody Winslow, San Diego, decision; Joe Abasta, Tucson, KO 6.
Not to keep you in suspense; Aragon, 154, knocked out Tyler, 155, in the 8th round of a bloody, one-sided brawl.
The heavy rain hurt attendance, beyond doubt: still there were 2,926 fans on hand, and the gross gate of $7,027 attests to the Golden Boy's perennial popularity at the box-office.
Tyler got off to a flying start, took the first round by a nice margin. He used a sharp left jab to redden Art's shnozz, scored with a couple of hard rights. But just before the bell ended the round, Aragon nailed him with a vicious left hook to the body.
Tyler didn't fare to badly in the next two heats, either; he landed more punches then Aragon , but it was obvious that Art's wallops packed more steam then the youngster's. Anyway, in round 5, Aragon opened up with all batteries; his left hooks had Tyler wheeling and reeling. By the end of round 7, Tyler was splashing blood all over the joint, gushing gore freely from the shnozz.
Aragon mercifully ended hostilities in the 8th, when a left to the body and a right to the chin sent Tyler, face first, to the deck. Referee Mushy Callahan counted him out.
As far as the fight had gone, Callahan had Aragon in front by the score of 69-62; most of the L.A. newspaper boys gave Art an even greater margin.
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Image

Cal Eaton handing over a $60,000 check to Carmen Basilio, that being Basilio purse for Art Aragon fight....
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kikibalt wrote:Image

Cal Eaton handing over a $60,000 check to Carmen Basilio, that being Basilio purse for Art Aragon fight....
One night at Flores Gym . . .

Johnny Flores was talking about meeting Carmen Basilio when the champ was in town to fight Art Aragon.
Johnny said that Basilio had a face only a mother could love.
He said a reporter commented about Carmen being ugly and Basilio growled back, "I'm fighter, what's your excuse?" :lol:
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Well said by Carmen. :TU:
Reminds me of Gene Fullmer saying that boxing made him better looking.
Or, Chuck Wepner saying that he was six feet tall when he started boxing,but wound up six foot five after all the uppercuts. :wink:
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Insider Notebook: Victor Ortiz, Golden Boy, Chavez, More

Insider Notebook: Victor Ortiz, Golden Boy, Chavez, More
By Robert Morales/Boxing Scene

Although Manny Pacquiao agreed to a settlement regarding his defamation lawsuit against Golden Boy Promotions executives Oscar de La Hoya and Richard Schaefer, the same is not true for Floyd Mayweather, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Roger Mayweather.

The five were named in the suit filed in December 2009 in Nevada District Court. It claimed remarks they made suggested Pacquiao was using performance enhancing drugs.

"The lawsuit, just for purposes of clarity here, continues against all the other parties," Pacquiao's hot-shot attorney, Daniel Petrocelli, said Wednesday. "All the Mayweathers. It was resolved only with respect to the Golden Boy parties."

Petrocelli was asked whose idea it was to come to the settlement with De La Hoya and Schaefer.

"I don't feel like discussing how we got there because there is a confidentiality agreement," Petrocelli said.

The settlement, reached Tuesday, came with a statement from de la Hoya and Schaefer that basically said they were sorry if their remarks were taken to mean that they believed Pacquiao was on PEDs.

"Manny was satisfied with the terms and Golden Boy issued the public statement," Petrocelli said.

Petrocelli would not say if money was involved in the agreement.

"I don't want to get into any of the terms," he said.

Petrocelli wasn't shy about the case that remains against the Mayweathers, however.

"The Mayweather people have made even more defamatory statements about him (Pacquiao), so those will be part of the lawsuit in court. We are in discovery right now and we will be trying to get a trial date in the near future," Petrocelli said.

SCHAEFER RESPONDS

It was May 16 that Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy, and Arum sat down to iron out an agreement that would allow Juan Manuel Marquez to fight Pacquiao a third time without any interference from Golden Boy, which had been promoting Marquez and still had the right to match any offer Marquez received.

Like Tuesday's settlement, there was a confidentiality clause, so details were not disclosed. But Schaefer on Wednesday did confirm what Arum told BS.com after that May 16 meeting.

“At the end of the mediation, when we came to an agreement, we shook hands and said we are both going to make an effort that we are not going to let it get to that again," Schaefer said of the rift that resulted in the two companies not doing business since Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton in May 2009.

"All this is behind us now. I can definitely see our two companies working together again where there is a demand and people want to see a fight."

Schaefer was asked if Tuesday's settlement in the defamation suit solidified all that.

"Correct," he said.

There were two things Schaefer was able to say about that mediation for Marquez-Pacquiao III, which is slated for Nov. 12.

One, Golden Boy will have nothing to do with that promotion and two, Marquez is completely gone from Golden Boy.

OSCAR’S REHABILITATION

de la Hoya voluntarily checked into a rehabilitation clinic for substance abuse roughly a month ago and Schaefer said his boss remains there. Schaefer, however, would not divulge any details of De La Hoya's stay.

"I can't really make any public statements," he said, "because I don't think that would be my place. I think that would be Oscar's place, when he can."

Schaefer did say that he expects De La Hoya to win this battle, the way he won so many others inside the ring.

"Knowing his accomplishments, to achieve in life what he has achieved, I'm confident he will win this as well," Schaefer said.

PRAISE FOR HOPKINS

Schaefer couldn't say enough about the experience of Bernard Hopkins becoming the oldest world champion at 46 with his exciting decision over Jean Pascal last month in Canada.

"The fans are just amazing, amazing boxing fans," Schaefer said of the more than 17,500 who took in the fight at Bell Centre in Montreal. "Very passionate and very knowledgeable and very fair. It was the biggest boxing crowd in history in Canada."

Schaefer said Hopkins, who fights for Golden Boy, gave a "tremendous performance. I think it gives all of us who are close to 50 some hope. With proper diet and discipline, anything is possible and I think that is what Bernard showed us."

ORTIZ TO POSSIBLY RETURN IN SEPTEMBER

Schaefer was asked when we might next see newly crowned welterweight champion Victor Ortiz, who fought very well when he won the title with a unanimous decision over Andre Berto in April.

"We hope to have him back in September," Schaefer said. "I'm working on a couple of things, literally two. I don't really have more to say at this point because I'm working on that and it would be counterproductive to say what they are."

ROACH, CHAVEZ JR. SPEAK ON SATURDAY’S TITLE FIGHT

Freddie Roach and Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. fought during the same era, yet until earlier this month they had never spoken – though Roach said he tried to converse with Chavez.

"I would say hi to him and he would just walk by me," said Roach, who will be in Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.'s corner Saturday when he challenges Sebastian Zbik for his middleweight world title at Staples Center in Los Angeles. "I always thought his dad was the meanest guy in the world and just didn't like anybody. But he's doing real well now, he's cleaned his act up. He was happy, he was happy for Manny (Pacquiao) at the last fight. He shook my hand afterwards, we had a nice discussion.

"He didn't know that I was a big fan of his. I'm telling him about his fights and where they were and so forth. It was a great conversation."

One that almost had to take place, Roach said.

"It was something that we needed to make the son more comfortable in the direction I'm pointing in because, you know, the son still wants to be his dad," Roach said. "But I'm trying to make him a better boxer, actually, because he has the height and reach advantages that his dad didn't.

"And his dad was an inside fighter and so forth and I think Julio Jr. is too tall to be an inside fighter and he should use his boxing ability on the outside a little bit more and that's what we're working on."

Roach said young Chavez has been a model pupil.

"His boxing ability's getting a lot better," Roach said. "He knows his stuff pretty well. He's measuring distance a lot better, he's using angles a lot better. He's a real good student; he listens very well. He tries really hard."

ZBIK SEEKS RESPECT

When Zbik enters the ring against Chavez it will be his first fight in the United States. Only four of his 30 fights have been outside of his native Germany, for that matter. During a workout last week at Fortune Boxing Gym in Hollywood, Zbik was asked about the importance of winning a fight that could give him some fame in the U.S. Although most non-American fighters say it is imperative to get noticed in America, Zbik has other fish to fry.

"It's not the most important thing for me," Zbik said. "At first, I'm here to win the fight. When I win the fight here, I'm very famous in Germany because it was 80 years ago when Max Schmeling won the last championship fight, so we can make history in Germany."

Schmeling was the last German to win a major world-title fight in the United States when he defended the heavyweight championship with a 15th-round technical knockout of Young Stribling on July 3, 1931 at Municipal Stadium in Cleveland.

Zbik proved to have quite an engaging personality as he played host to a handful of reporters. It showed when he was asked to describe himself as a fighter.

"I'm not a knockout (guy). When I say with 10 knockouts in 30 fights I'm a knockout guy, nobody will believe me."

Zbik laughed, and the room roared.

SANCHEZ: RIOS-ANTILLON HOULD BE ACTION PACKED

Abel Sanchez was in Urbano Antillon's corner last December in Anaheim, Calif. when Antillon challenged Humberto Soto for his lightweight world title at Honda Center. It was an incredible, give-and-take, hard-hitting fight that ended in a unanimous decision for Soto, only because Antillon had a point deducted in the fifth round for a low blow; otherwise, it would have been a majority draw with Soto nevertheless retaining his belt.

Well, five weeks from Saturday - on July 9 at Home Depot Center in Carson, Calif. - Antillon is going to try again for his first major title when he tries to wrest away the belt belonging to Brandon Rios. Sanchez expects another ring war.

"People remember the fight Urbano had against Soto and they know his style and he's not going to change from one fight to another fight," said Sanchez, who trains Antillon and others out of his sprawling training camp in Big Bear, Calif. "Brandon is the kind of fighter who comes forward, too. He's going to try and be in your face, so I can't see it going any other way.

"I can't see it not being in the middle of the ring and banging and, hopefully, the guy that took better care of himself in the gym is going to be victorious. I think it's going to be better than the Soto fight."

Showtime, which will carry the Top Rank Inc. fight, would love that.

SANCHEZ ALSO IN GOMEZ’ CORNER

Highly touted junior welterweight Frankie Gomez (9-0, 7 KOs) of East Los Angeles recently brought Sanchez into his corner, replacing Ronnie Rivota.

"They approached me, the manager," Sanchez said, in reference to Hector Ibarra. "And Golden Boy approached me. I told them I would work with him for a couple of weeks to see how we get along. That was three or four months ago. He's a good kid. He just needs to find his way. He has a lot of talent.

"It's just a matter of him keeping sharp and making sure that he understands he has a great opportunity with Golden Boy. They have a big machine pushing him."

Gomez, just 19, has been aloof with the media. When he does interviews, he acts like he's not crazy about doing them, like he really doesn't want to. This, of course, is not good for a young fighter trying to make a name for himself. Sanchez intimated there might be some shyness involved.

"I'm going to start taking him to schools and talking to kids," he said. "Just so he lets words roll."

Robert Morales covers boxing for the Los Angeles Daily News, Long Beach Press-Telegram, and BS.com
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This was my last look at the great Julio Cesar Chavez . . .
Phoenix - July, 2000



"The Lion in Winter"
by Rick Farris


Boxing and controversy were holding hands long before the Marquis of Queensbury laid down the ground rules. Generally, controversy surfaces sometime after the opening bell. However, from the moment it was announced that WBC Jr. Welterweight Champ Kostya Tszyu would defend his title against 38-year-old Julio Cesar Chavez, controversy flourished. Even today, three days after the fight the controversy continues.

The Tszyu-Chavez title fight would be my first live coverage assignment and I had a special interest in it. I had been in the house the night Chavez made his Los Angeles debut at the Olympic Auditorium more than seventeen years ago, and again the following year, when he won his first world title. Now I would be present for what I expected to be the once great champion's final fight.

I had hoped to catch Chavez working out at the Madison Gym in Phoenix where today I train boxers. However, my schedule interfered with the chance of seeing Chavez during the week he conducted his final workouts in Phoenix. I didn't see the former champ until the friday afternoon weigh-in at the Airport Hilton Hotel in Phoenix.

When I arrived at the Hotel I saw a lot of old friends and familiar faces from my era in Los Angeles boxing. Marty Denkin, who was scheduled to judge the bout was sitting in the lobby with another L.A. based official, Chuck Hassett. A group of amateur boxers representing several Phoenix area gyms were standing by hoping to get a glimpse of Chavez when he entered the building. Arizona boxing commissioner John Montano was having a discussion in the corner with one of the promoters and Jimmy Lennon Jr. crossed the room on his way to the restaurant. Kostya Tszyu had quietly slipped into the media room where the weigh-in would be held and quickly checked his weight on the scale. After stepping off the scale he disappeared. About ten minutes later a commotion could be heard coming from the lobby and it marked the entrance of one of the greatest Mexican boxers ever, Julio Cesar Chavez. Chavez was quickly surrounded by the media. Anxious reporters and camera crews positioned themselves close to the former champion and began asking questions. Chavez sat down in the lobby and talked with the media but not with the strength that he once projected.

As I watched Chavez talk to the media I could see that this was not the same man I had watched win the W.B.C. Jr. Lightweight title sixteen years earlier. The Chavez I saw knockout Mario Martinez was 21 years old and had that hungry look in his eyes. The Chavez I saw in the lobby of the Hotel looked uncomfortable, almost irritated. The only confidence projected that afternoon came from a loyal group of young followers that somehow believed that there hero could pull off a miracle. "Vamos Rumbo A La Victoria" were the words emblazoned on the back of their T-Shirts. They had come to win.

Chavez's behavior in the days leading up to the fight indicated to me that he was in trouble. Last week he became upset when learning that Willy Wise, the welterweight who had defeated him last September, would be appearing on the undercard. Chavez demanded that the promoter drop Wise from the card or he would not fight. The request was honored. This is something that Chavez would have never done a few years ago. However, as I said, this was not the same Chavez.

A few minutes later Chavez stood and headed for the media room where the weigh-in was scheduled to take place in less than twenty minutes. Chavez and his handlers headed directly toward the scale to check his weight. Chavez stripped to his briefs and stepped onto the scale. After finding his weight to be exactly 140 lbs. Chavez nodded seriously and slipped into a robe provided by one of his team members. Every move the great Mexican made after entering the room was followed by loud cheering from the spectators. It was obvious they had come to see Chavez.

In a matter of seconds the room was packed wall-to-wall. Former World Champ Danny Romero shook hands and posed for pictures with many of the young fans who had come to watch the festivities. Hector Camacho Jr. smiled and flexed his muscles as photographers snapped pictures. It wasn't long before the official weigh-in would take place and after weighing the other boxers on the card Commissioner John Montano called Chavez to the scale. "Julio Cesar Chavez . . .140 pounds", Montano announced. The spectators cheered. A minute later Montano called for the champion to be weighed. "Kostya Tszyu, 139 1/2 pounds". The crowd booed but Tszyu just smiled and confidently flexed his muscles for the media before stepping down. The champion was about as popular with the predominantly Mexican crowd as Lee Harvey Oswald was with the American public on November 22, 1963.

Chavez never smiled, aside from a weak effort after his weight was announced. He was obviously upset over the events leading up to the fight. In addition to the Wise incident, Chavez was angry that Senator John McCain had attempted to stop the fight from taking place. Fearing that Chavez could be seriously hurt by Tszyu, McCain had petitioned Arizona Governor Jane Hull to step in. However, the fight would go on and Chavez considered the Senator's efforts an insult. Adding to the insult was the fact that Las Vegas was refusing to take action on the bout, citing that Chavez was anywhere from a 40 to 100-to-1 underdog. Chavez trained hard and vowed to prove them wrong. After the weigh-in, Tszyu told the press he would stop Chavez in two rounds while Chavez said he would knockout Tszyu within eight. I looked closely into the dark gamecock eyes of Chavez as he made the prediction and nothing gave me the impression that he believed what he was saying.

Early the next evening I arrived at Phoenix's Veteran's Memorial Coliseum a couple of hours before the title fight was to start. It had been 112 degrees
that day and those who had bought tickets parked their cars and hurried across the parking lot to escape the heat. "Thank God for air conditioning" was all I could think about upon entering the cool Coliseum. I had arrived about halfway thru a prelim featuring former World Champ Robert Garcia. As Garcia pounded his opponent I wanted to get with the boxing people. Thanks to my press credentials and familiar face among the boxing crowd I was able to go just about anywhere I wanted.

After locating my seat I went directly to the dressing room area located behind giant curtains shielding that part of the arena from the crowd. I passed by the Showtime crew who were running a sound check on Bobby Czyz as he and Steve Albert prepared themselves for their ringside commentator roles later on. As I passed by the security reps guarding the dressing room area, I saw my friend Richard Rodriguez, owner of the Madison Gym where Chavez had finished his training for this fight. I asked Rodriguez how Chavez had looked in the gym during the previous week and he answered, "He looked good. He's in good shape". That's all Rodriguez could offer. I then spot America Presents promoter Dan Goossen who was standing in the back outside the dressing room area with Jimmy Lennon Jr. I knew that Goossen would be too busy to talk about the fight so I just said hello and asked him if his brother Joe was around. "Joe couldn't make it", Dan said, "He usually does all the work but I guess it will be just me tonight" he said smiling. Goossen had good reason to be happy, the event was a near sellout.

As I made my way toward the dressing rooms I saw Sugar Ray Leonard enter surrounded by several security guards who would usher him to his ringside seat. A few minutes later Johnny Tapia walked in holding hands with his wife. Tapia had a mischievous smile on his face and clowned with a few friends he'd met. I have to give Johnny credit, he sure knows how to work a crowd. Throughout the evening I saw Tapia shaking hands and posing for pictures with fans. I doubt he ever sat down. And as usual there were many other boxing celebs on hand such as Fernando Vargas, Danny Romero and Zab Judah, who had come to check out Kostya Tszyu, a man whom he will face in the ring one day. When Don King emerged from the dressing room area with four giant body guards the crowd greeted him with boos.

After Garcia had won a ten round decision, Vassily Jirov the IBF Cruiserweight Champ took on a cagey Phoenix veteran named Earl Butler. Butler was not expected to last long but it was Jirov who was lucky to finish the first round on his feet. About halfway thru the opening round Butler discovered that Jirov could be hit with right cross and caught the champ flush on the chin with one. Jirov staggered and struggled to remain on his feet. Before the round ended he'd caught several more and wobbled to his corner after the bell. However, in the second round Jirov went to work and and knocked out Butler.

After the Jirov fight I wondered back to the dressing room area where Hector Camacho Jr. was being boosted up onto a large wooden horse on wheels. Camacho had intended to make his ring entrance riding a real horse down the aisle but the Phoenix Fire Dept. said "No way". Instead, Camacho would make his entrance on the back of the wooden horse pulled down the aisle by anassistant. As Camacho awaited the cue for his entrance, he sat patiently on the wooden horse with his pretty young wife standing just below him carrying their baby in her arms. I spoke briefly with Ted Morton, Camacho's American representative whom I had met several years back. Needless to say, Morton was very excited about his unbeaten young fighter. After watching Camacho stop Phillip Holiday in a less than exciting bout I returned to the dressing area where I was able to casually slip inside the dressing room of Chavez. I just acted like I belonged there and quietly stood to the side watching the Mexican legend as he warmed up shadow boxing. He broke a sweat but didn't appear ready to me for action to me. An official prompted Team Chavez that it was about time for the once brilliant champion to head down to the ring. A second tied Chavez robe while another rubbed his shoulders. About this time a group of about a dozen young members of Team Chavez along with his handlers surrounded Julio and began to chant a pre-fight cheer, something to raise the fighters spirit before the match. When they finished, Cristobal Rosas, the great Mexican trainer who had once worked with the late Salvador Sanchez, gave Chavez a hug and kissed him on the forehead. Rosas had once trained Chavez and was Julio's special guest for the fight. They exchanged a few words in Spanish and then Julio headed out. Before reaching the curtain leading to the arena Chavez, surrounded by the most loyal entourage I have ever seen, stood waiting for the final cue to walk down the aisle. Gathered before Chavez was a large Mariachi band that would play as he entered the ring. A moment later Don King and his escorts appeared and King hugged Chavez. King, never one to miss an opportunity to be seen, stood behind Chavez with his hands on the former champion's shoulders. King would accompany Chavez for his last walk down the aisle. I looked closely into the face of Chavez and didn't see the look of a man who had held world titles for more than twelve years during his brilliant career. I saw a man who knew his great pride was about to suffer.

A Showtime official gave the Chavez delegation the signal, in Spanish, that it was time. "Tiempo" he shouted. Long before Chavez walked thru the curtain and began his walk down the aisle the crowd exploded. "CHAVEZ, CHAVEZ, CHAVEZ!", they chanted. As Chavez slowly made his way to the ring the flashes from cameras created a strobe light effect around the Coliseum and the sound of Mariachi music was drowned out by the thunderous ovation from the audience. I have seen a lot of title fights and dozens of great champions over the years but nothing compared to the excitement that took place when Chavez entered the ring Saturday night. You would think that Chavez was the champion and Tszyu was an unpopular challenger. When Tszyu entered the ring a few minutes later he was greeted with boos.

Chavez did his best but had little to offer. On a couple of occasions he was able to land solid blows but they had no effect on the talented Russian. In the sixth round the great Julio Cesar Chavez hit the canvas for only the second time in his career. He made it to his feet and desperately tried to fight back but within seconds referee Bobby Ferrara had no choice but to stop the fight.

Too many years have separated Chavez from the skills that made him great, however, the legend will never die. When the disappointment of Chavez's fans turned to anger, the beer started to fly. Growing up in Los Angeles I know how Mexican fans react when their favorite loses. Long before Jimmy Lennon announced the winner of the fight I was safely tucked away in the press room waiting for the post fight press conference.

Chavez announced his retirement after the fight and I hope he was serious. Even so, the controversy continued when he refused to take the drug test following the fight. Many would assume that this suggests Chavez had taken an illegal substance prior to the match. However, nothing I saw in the eyes or behavior of the great Chavez indicated he had. I think one of the greatest Mexican boxers in history had been insulted enough and just wanted to get out of the place. Chavez has earned his place in boxing history, what could a bit more controversy hurt.
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Oscar De La Hoya would be better by going to the rehab center that singer Amy Winehouse uses.
She claims to be cured after spending 4 days there-again ! :lol: :lol:
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My cousin, Army Captain Michael Lee Woodside, was killed in Viet Nam in 1969. He was 22.
Below is what appears under his name on the virtual wall containing the names of those who died in Viet Nam.
He is my family's hero. :bow: Love & miss you, Mike.
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A Note from The Virtual Wall:

Two men died when their OH-6A (tail number 67-16025) was shot down while conducting a low level search in bad weather for a downed AH-1G:
1LT Billy Gene Creech, pilot, A Btry, 377th Arty Rgt
CPT Michael Lee Woodside, observer, HHB, 2nd Bn, 320th Arty Rgt
The AH-1G (tail number 67-15845, A/4/77th Arty) had been shot down earlier in the day while conducting an attack. The two crewmen, CPT John T. McDonnell and 1LT Ronald Greenfield, had not been located at the time Creech and Woodside went down. Although Greenfield was picked up on 07 March, Captain McDonnell was not recovered.

In addition to the Silver Star, awarded for valor in combat, Captain Woodside received the Army's highest award for personal courage in a non-combat situation: he was awarded the Soldier's Medal for entering a burning village and rescuing three Vietnamese children.

Captain Woodside received his commission through the Fort Sill Artillery Officer Candidate School with Class 1967-04. At least two of his classmates also died in Vietnam:

1LT Stephen L. Beck, 13 Sep 1968, HHC, 1st Inf Div
1LT Fred Z. Washburn, 02 Oct 1968, 71ST AHC
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Feeling any better, Frank?
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Rick Farris wrote:Feeling any better, Frank?
No, now I have a cold, like somebody said; it needs to run its course.... :witzend:
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Rick Farris wrote:My cousin, Army Captain Michael Lee Woodside, was killed in Viet Nam in 1969. He was 22.
Below is what appears under his name on the virtual wall containing the names of those who died in Viet Nam.
He is my family's hero. :bow: Love & miss you, Mike.
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A Note from The Virtual Wall:

Two men died when their OH-6A (tail number 67-16025) was shot down while conducting a low level search in bad weather for a downed AH-1G:
1LT Billy Gene Creech, pilot, A Btry, 377th Arty Rgt
CPT Michael Lee Woodside, observer, HHB, 2nd Bn, 320th Arty Rgt
The AH-1G (tail number 67-15845, A/4/77th Arty) had been shot down earlier in the day while conducting an attack. The two crewmen, CPT John T. McDonnell and 1LT Ronald Greenfield, had not been located at the time Creech and Woodside went down. Although Greenfield was picked up on 07 March, Captain McDonnell was not recovered.

In addition to the Silver Star, awarded for valor in combat, Captain Woodside received the Army's highest award for personal courage in a non-combat situation: he was awarded the Soldier's Medal for entering a burning village and rescuing three Vietnamese children.

Captain Woodside received his commission through the Fort Sill Artillery Officer Candidate School with Class 1967-04. At least two of his classmates also died in Vietnam:

1LT Stephen L. Beck, 13 Sep 1968, HHC, 1st Inf Div
1LT Fred Z. Washburn, 02 Oct 1968, 71ST AHC
A Captain in The Airborne Rangers.
Incredible acts of Bravery and Humanity.
May they all Rest in Peace knowing a job Well Done.
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Carmen Basilio training for the Art Aragon fight...1958

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kikibalt wrote:Carmen Basilio training for the Art Aragon fight...1958

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Frank, Great photos, have you any of the "Golden Boy" training for the Basilio fight.. :TU:
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Paul, I posted some about two weeks ago.....
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Frank, Art's sparring partners for the Basilio fight were Dewitt Lewis, Charley Sawyer, Eddie Gilbert and Larry Wright, do you remember any of them? :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:Paul, I posted some about two weeks ago.....
Frank, Yes those were of the fight a Wrigley Field, have you any of art training for the fight, i think he trained at Gilman Hot Springs, Calif..
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Cholo wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Paul, I posted some about two weeks ago.....
Frank, Yes those were of the fight a Wrigley Field, have you any of art training for the fight, i think he trained at Gilman Hot Springs, Calif..

Speaking of Gilman Hot Springs, I was there at the Massacre Canyon Inn briefly with Ruben Navarro in 1971.
The entire grounds, golf course and all, is now a Scientology retreat. :o Nothing is sacred in the world of boxing. :witzend:
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Cholo wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Paul, I posted some about two weeks ago.....
Frank, Yes those were of the fight a Wrigley Field, have you any of art training for the fight, i think he trained at Gilman Hot Springs, Calif..
The ones I was thinking about were when he was training for the Jimmy Carter fight...No I don't have any of Aragon training for the Basilio fight...not sure that he trained for that fight... :lol:
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Frank, More on the "Golden Boy",
"I knew Jane Russell pretty good and when she was doing Gentleman Prefer Blondes she told me to go to Marilyn's dressing room and introduce myself. Bein' a dumb fighter i just opened the door and there she was, sitting in a chair, naked. Nothing on. Of course, like a schmuck, i covered my eyes but she just giggled and put a robe on. I was more embarrassed then she was. Even though i covered my eyes pretty quick, I'll never forget that. Seeing Marilyn Monroe naked."
I've seen a photo of Art and Marilyn on the the internet, outside of her dressing room, lucky Art.. :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:
Cholo wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Paul, I posted some about two weeks ago.....
Frank, Yes those were of the fight a Wrigley Field, have you any of art training for the fight, i think he trained at Gilman Hot Springs, Calif..
The ones I was thinking about were when he was training for the Jimmy Carter fight...No I don't have any of Aragon training for the Basilio fight...not sure that he trained for that fight... :lol:
Frank, :lol: :lol:
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Cholo wrote:Frank, Art's sparring partners for the Basilio fight were Dewitt Lewis, Charley Sawyer, Eddie Gilbert and Larry Wright, do you remember any of them? :TU:
I remember Charley Sawyer, he was Joe Kelly's fighter. He fought Art and that fight smelled to high heaven... :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:
Cholo wrote:Frank, Art's sparring partners for the Basilio fight were Dewitt Lewis, Charley Sawyer, Eddie Gilbert and Larry Wright, do you remember any of them? :TU:
I remember Charley Sawyer, he was Joe Kelly's fighter. He fought Art and that fight smelled to high heaven... :lol:
Frank, :lol: was Art in trouble again.. :lol:
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