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Paul & Randy, thanks for the congrats....

Art Aragon: Boxing's Controversial Golden Boy,
He was one of the most controversial fighters of his day. He made over a million dollers, beat three world champions, there were brushes with the law and trouble with women. Fans in Los Angeles either loved or hated him. He was called the "Golden Boy" and his remembered by many for the beating inflicted by Carmen Basilio when he was well past his prime.
"The only reason i lost to Basilio was because i was nervous. I started off very well. The bell rang, I went to the centre of the ring, I threw two left jabs, a hard left hook, a right and then an uppercut. And then Basilio came to the center of the ring." The jokes come all the time, but they don't tell the real story. The gate receipts he drew tell something about him.
Basilio-Aragon was a ten round non-title bout. two weeks earlier, in the late summer of 1958, the heavyweight champion of the world, Floyd Patterson, met unbeaten challenger Roy Harris in the same ring at L.A.'s Wrigley Field. Basilio-Aragon drew 20,565 customers, paying $232,644 more then the heavyweight title bout! He was that popular; and all the controversy only attracted more fans. A lot of them came to boo him. He didn't care. Aragon once described himself as "a stubborn, cocky, arrogant, supercilious know-it-all." He may well have been right. He made his share of enemies. But after one newspaper writer predicted before a fight, "The coffers will be overflowing with gold when Aragon fights tonight," he got the tag "Golden Boy." It stuck to him, despite everything else. "I started fighting when i was sixteen," says Aragon, "One day at work after school I beat up this guy. My boss came in and I thought he was going to fire me. Instead he took me down to the gym. My folks didn't know what I was doing. I was fighting professional while I was still in High School. I had to lie about my age to get a license. One night I came home with a black eye. I told my mother I got in a street fight and she beat the hell out of me. That was my first loss. See, she didn't even know I was a fighter. She wanted me to play the violin and do my homework. But that wasn't for me." In 114 bouts he was never counted out. He had 60 knockouts and 29 wins by decision. Up until 1956, four years before he quit, Aragon beat many of the best fighters of his time. Aragon signed to meet former middleweight champion Carmen Basilio for the largest purse of his career, $140,000 for a ten round bout in September, 1958. Six months earlier, Basilio had lost his title to Ray Robinson in Chicago. Aragon-Basilio was nationally televised, and newspaper reports say that Aragon actually stunned Basilio in one exchange, It was finally stopped in the eighth round. After the loss to Basilio, Aragon went on to fight in places like Fresno, Yuma, and Santa Monica, against lesser known opponents. The ghost of a once talented fighter came home to struggle with second raters. At the end of 1959 somebody answering to the name Reybon Stubbs won a easy decision over Aragon. In January, 1960, Aragon took an awful beating from Alvaro Gutierrez and was stopped in nine rounds. "I hit him as hard as I could, right on the chin. And down I went." The next day the "Golden Boy" announced his retirement. Thats the way it was with the "Golden Boy." Some loved him and some hated him. But they'll never forget him..

Paul, thanks for bringing all my Art Aragon memories back to life... ...Connie and I were ringside for his last fight... And I didn't hate him, always rooted for him to win....

A couple of Art Aragon photos....You might've already seen them before Paul..



Me with the Golden Boy....2007



The Golden Boy with his California State Championship belt

kikibalt wrote:Paul, thanks for bringing all my Art Aragon memories back to life... ...Connie and I were ringside for his last fight... And I didn't hate him, always rooted for him to win....

I hope you enjoy them Frank, great memories, there was only one "Golden Boy"..

kikibalt wrote:A couple of Art Aragon photos....You might've already seen them before Paul..



Me with the Golden Boy....2007



The Golden Boy with his California State Championship belt

Frank, Great photos, i bet Art was still making people laugh with his jokes as he got older, loved to have met him..

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:The Man From Laramie-with James Stewart is on right now on the Western channell. Classic movie

Watching it Randy...

Jack Elam is in the movie. He's one of my favorite old school character actor. They don't make them like that anymore. He came out in a TV Western in the early 1960's called The Dakotas. Remember that?

Randy, I just remember that Jack Elam has a small part in the "The Ring"....

Received this email today:

Emile Griffith seems to be making a Comeback !!!
Emile Griffith the former 6 time World Champion is doing a lot better, keep your

prayers coming in.

I received a call from Emile’s son Luis, and
he told me that he is talking and even joking with the nurses. This is
wonderful news, as a few weeks ago, Emile just stared at you with no reaction.
Luis also told me that his blood work is back to normal, as well as his liver,
heart and kidneys.
Emile has been a longtime member of Ring 8 and the New Jersey Boxing Hall of
Fame. He was Inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame, the World
Boxing Hall of Fame, Ring Magazine Boxing Hall of Fame, as well as the New
Jersey Boxing Hall of Fame. Not only did he box more Main Events at Madison
Square Garden then any other boxer But he also boxed more Championship rounds

then any boxer in the history of our sport.

We still must keep him in our prayers as now he has to build up his strength.

If you care to visit him or send a card, here’s where Emile is at:
Nassau Extended Care Facility
1 Greenwich St
Hempstead, NY 11550
Room 435A – West Wing

Also, if you want to help Emile out, with Hospital expenses etc., you can send
your donation to the following address. Every little bit counts.


Luis R. Griffith c/o Emile Griffith
150 Washington st. apt 6J
Hempstead, N.Y. 11550


If you have any questions, please contact his son at:

luis rodrigo <[email protected]>


Thanks, Henry Hascup

The original article along with some excellent videos can be found here:
http://www.boxing.com/the_mexicans_its_ ... blood.html

The Mexicans—It’s in the Blood
By Michael Schmidt on June 10, 2011


There will only ever be one Ruben Olivares. He was one of a kind.

Olivares, a true champion, always so accomodating and always so gracious at these Hall of Fame events, sits with a relaxed smile on his face…


It’s Friday night at the annual International Boxing Hall of Fame Induction Weekend, 2011, and I am at the “Rusty Rail Party House” for “Mexican Fiesta Night.” Last year at this time it was “Madison Square Garden Night” and we all sat captivated as George Chuvalo, in staccato-like fashion, listed name after name of Madison Square Garden legends and what it meant to him to be at The Garden that first time when they turned all the lights down and shone one bright light to each fighter. Who could ever forget Chuvalo vs. Patterson, The Ring magazine Fight of the Year? Chuvalo, now in his 70s, continues to soldier on, and is still a wonderfully articulate Iron Man. This year is a celebration of the Mexican Iron Man.

I sit thinking about the faces, the visages of Carlos Zarate, Ricardo “El Finito” Lopez (if that nickname does not spell out to you what kind of ring night you would be in for with Lopez, well maybe you are in the wrong place with the wrong guy), and Julio Cesar Chavez. Due to flight difficulties neither Lopez or Pipino Cuevas have yet arrived.

I think as well of Ruben Olivares. It was if the “Fabulous Forum” was made for Olivares. Olivares finished with over 100 fights against the likes of Bobby Chacon, Danny Lopez, Art Hafey, Alexis Arguello, “Chuco” Castillo, Jesus Pimentel, Lionel Rose, and a legion of other great fighters. Olivares, a true champion, always so accomodating and always so gracious at these Hall of Fame events, sits with a relaxed smile on his face, relaxed I suspect in knowing just how very very great he was in applying his craft. He jokingly warms over the crowd by stating, in reference to his fight with the great Arguello, “After I was knocked down the second time the referee said ‘Do you want to continue?’ and I said ‘Sure, next week!”’

It has been a long day and my mind wonders for a moment to filmmaker Sergio Leone’s For a Few Dollars More. These champions still look like they could punch the lights out of anything coming their way. These are tough faces, from tough places; tough guys through and through. My mind wonders a little more before the festivities start. I am still thinking of spaghetti westerns and violence. Perhaps it’s those faces. Or perhaps in my exhaustion it’s the fact that I am sitting beside my good friend, the “other Mike.” We won’t use last names here as the “other Mike” designs little goodies for the U.S Defense Department.

I recall another old spaghetti western, The Mercenary I believe it was called. Early on in the movie the male lead catches a gambling dice cheat. Mr Cheat is forced to eat his own dice and our male lead says, “When you get them back, I suggest you don’t use them again!” Zarate, Lopez, Chavez, Olivares….swallow leather and swallow it deep and often. While Meldrick Taylor and Alfonso Zamora were no cheats, but were rather great fighters, the tools of their trade, their dice, boxing gloves in kind, were never to be used again at the same level after their respective bouts with Chavez and Zarate. Indeed, I remember watching the “Z” bombs on TV back in the 1970s. I was convinced that Zamora was the Second Coming of Olivares. In hindsight, of course, that was silly, as there will only ever be one Olivares. The “Z” bombs entered the ring with a combined 67 wins and 66 knockouts without a loss. In the background the TV audio was playing the recently produced cover remake of “Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood” by the band Santa Esmeralda, with a Big Latin Beat. Well, there was a Big Latin Beat when Zarate destroyed Zamora, even though Zamora’s career faded rapidly after that. He rode off into the Mexican sunset, as it were, done before he reached the age of 30.

If you were to take these four greats—Zarate, Lopez, Chavez, and Olivares—and combined their mutual records, before any of them lost a fight you would be looking at an amazing 252 wins and three draws! Zarate, Lopez, and Olivares are all from Mexico City. Zarate, Lopez, Chavez, with their pugilistic bloodlines, have sons carrying on the tradition with Zarate Jr., Alonso Lopez, Chavez Jr. and Omar Chavez. If you add the young prodigies into the mix you can bump that record, before any lost, to 342wins and five draws. In fact, the sons of the fathers have yet to lose. It’s in the blood, all those fights, all that violence, all that pride and honour. Viva El Campeon del Mundo! To Salvador Sanchez, to “El Maestro” Miguel Canto, to Ramos, Sugar, Mando, to Morales who also attended here tonight, to Vincente Saldivar, to “Gato” Gonzalez, to The Mexicans, we salute you. Let the Fiesta begin! My Tecate please. Could it be any better than here in Canastota with these great champions Friday night? Others at the Hall to salute to the Great Mexican Champions include Marvellous Marvin Hagler, Ken Norton, and John Stracey. Nacho Beristain, the man who helped teach many champions to paint the canvas red, is also here and will be inducted in the Hall of Fame this weekend.

Boxing is dead my ass!

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Watching it Randy...

Jack Elam is in the movie. He's one of my favorite old school character actor. They don't make them like that anymore. He came out in a TV Western in the early 1960's called The Dakotas. Remember that?

Randy, I just remember that Jack Elam has a small part in the "The Ring"....

I put together this montage video of the 2011 International Boxing Hall of Fame Inductees. I was bored today and needed to keep busy.

http://youtu.be/i7SlD9BPFIw

Just watched it randy well put together but could been even better without stallone, after all it is a boxing hall of fame

telboy66 wrote:Just watched it randy well put together but could been even better without stallone, after all it is a boxing hall of fame

Thanks! While I certainly respect your opinion I do disagree with you on Stallone's induction. He was inducted as an observer, the same as a writer or artist. Leroy Neiman never fought in the ring, he was an artist, yet when he was inducted in 2007, no one had a problem with it. Boxing could not have a better friend than Sylvester Stallone. If the IBHOF would have inducted Rocky Balboa as a fighter, that would be a problem, and I think that is how some people are taking it.

I wrote my thoughts on this when it was first announced that Stallone was being inducted. You can read it here: http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2010/12 ... -into.html

Babe McCoy On Art Aragon,
"When Art comes in with his bag, he comes to fight. Everybody looks the same to him when he has gloves on. He tries to kill you with every punch. If he wins, it's a good fight. If he loses, it's good for a rematch. When he gets licked-which isn't very often-he becomes a better drawing card then ever. Something always seems to happen before an Aragon fight, after it, or between rounds, to make it a memorable one."

Randyman wrote:

telboy66 wrote:Just watched it randy well put together but could been even better without stallone, after all it is a boxing hall of fame

Thanks! While I certainly respect your opinion I do disagree with you on Stallone's induction. He was inducted as an observer, the same as a writer or artist. Leroy Neiman never fought in the ring, he was an artist, yet when he was inducted in 2007, no one had a problem with it. Boxing could not have a better friend than Sylvester Stallone. If the IBHOF would have inducted Rocky Balboa as a fighter, that would be a problem, and I think that is how some people are taking it.

I wrote my thoughts on this when it was first announced that Stallone was being inducted. You can read it here: http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2010/12 ... -into.html

Randy, as much as I personally dislike Stallone (he's not well liked by film crews), I agree with what you are saying.
Sylvester Stallone is not a boxer, and he would never venture into a ring, his claim to fame is creating the highest grossing boxing flick in history. Rocky has well out grossed true boxing films such as the Raging Bull, etc. Everybody knows who "Rocky Balboa" is, not as many know who Jake LaMotta was. Sad but true. There is no need for me to share what film techs, like myself, think of pompus actors, like Stallone. Seeing the warm charactor of Rocky Balboa really proves that Stallone is a great actor, because he is able to hide one of the most repulsive, egotistical personalities in Hollywood.

As the former Chairman of the WBHOF selection committee, would I have petitioned for Stallone's WBHOF induction in the same "observer" catagory?
Yes I would, without question. I would do it not for Stallone's contribution to boxing (which was nothing), I would do it for his celebriity power. I'd do it becasue I know it would help sell tables, people like to be around celebrities and I would use his fame anyway I could to benefit our organization.

The IBHOF has a strong class this year, basicly the same group as the WBHOF would have inducted last year.
In poor economic times, Stallone's appearance should "boost the gate" and if they are smart they will focus a lot of cameras on "Rocky & Tyson", play that angle.
I have no flowery memories of guys like Sylvester Stallone, however, his brother Frank is a pretty good guy.
My friend Reb Brown just starred in a low budget movie with Frank. They filmed it in the south and just finished production a month ago. Reb and Stallone hit it off and had a great time discussing boxing. Frank Stallone is a boxing historian of sorts, and was interested in attending this year's CBHOF event with Reb. Reb will be in Arizona on that weekend, and I have not followed up by calling Frank and inviting him, but Reb said he wanted to go and gave me his number. I met Frank in the late 70's, and we boxed together once at the "Left Hook Gym" in the S.F. Valley during the Actors strike in 1978. Frank told me he had boxed amateur in Florida, and was a pretty good boxer. My table is full so I will likely wait and invite Frank to attend next year, when Reb will be present. I think Frank Stallone is dating Jackie Kallan, one of my former WBHOF associates, so he may be going to the event anyway.

Randy, I know you sparred with Monroe Brooks at the Main Street Gym in background action for Rocky's gym scenes. An unforgetable day, no question.
Monroe Brooks was one of my favorite boxers in the mid-70's. Did you ever work with him when you were training? I didn't know Monroe Brooks, but I met him just before his fight with Bruce Curry at the Olympic. I was disappointed when he lost that fight. Do you have any memories of Monroe Brooks?

On my way to see another doctor, how come doctor's keep wanting to see me??...

Rick Farris wrote:

Randyman wrote:

telboy66 wrote:Just watched it randy well put together but could been even better without stallone, after all it is a boxing hall of fame

Thanks! While I certainly respect your opinion I do disagree with you on Stallone's induction. He was inducted as an observer, the same as a writer or artist. Leroy Neiman never fought in the ring, he was an artist, yet when he was inducted in 2007, no one had a problem with it. Boxing could not have a better friend than Sylvester Stallone. If the IBHOF would have inducted Rocky Balboa as a fighter, that would be a problem, and I think that is how some people are taking it.

I wrote my thoughts on this when it was first announced that Stallone was being inducted. You can read it here: http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2010/12 ... -into.html

Randy, as much as I personally dislike Stallone (he's not well liked by film crews), I agree with what you are saying.
Sylvester Stallone is not a boxer, and he would never venture into a ring, his claim to fame is creating the highest grossing boxing flick in history. Rocky has well out grossed true boxing films such as the Raging Bull, etc. Everybody knows who "Rocky Balboa" is, not as many know who Jake LaMotta was. Sad but true. There is no need for me to share what film techs, like myself, think of pompus actors, like Stallone. Seeing the warm charactor of Rocky Balboa really proves that Stallone is a great actor, because he is able to hide one of the most repulsive, egotistical personalities in Hollywood.

As the former Chairman of the WBHOF selection committee, would I have petitioned for Stallone's WBHOF induction in the same "observer" catagory?
Yes I would, without question. I would do it not for Stallone's contribution to boxing (which was nothing), I would do it for his celebriity power. I'd do it becasue I know it would help sell tables, people like to be around celebrities and I would use his fame anyway I could to benefit our organization.

The IBHOF has a strong class this year, basicly the same group as the WBHOF would have inducted last year.
In poor economic times, Stallone's appearance should "boost the gate" and if they are smart they will focus a lot of cameras on "Rocky & Tyson", play that angle.
I have no flowery memories of guys like Sylvester Stallone, however, his brother Frank is a pretty good guy.
My friend Reb Brown just starred in a low budget movie with Frank. They filmed it in the south and just finished production a month ago. Reb and Stallone hit it off and had a great time discussing boxing. Frank Stallone is a boxing historian of sorts, and was interested in attending this year's CBHOF event with Reb. Reb will be in Arizona on that weekend, and I have not followed up by calling Frank and inviting him, but Reb said he wanted to go and gave me his number. I met Frank in the late 70's, and we boxed together once at the "Left Hook Gym" in the S.F. Valley during the Actors strike in 1978. Frank told me he had boxed amateur in Florida, and was a pretty good boxer. My table is full so I will likely wait and invite Frank to attend next year, when Reb will be present. I think Frank Stallone is dating Jackie Kallan, one of my former WBHOF associates, so he may be going to the event anyway.

Rick, There's some film of Frank Stallone sparring with Carlos Palomino on the set of Rocky, on youtube, have you seen it?..

Cholo wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

Randyman wrote: Thanks! While I certainly respect your opinion I do disagree with you on Stallone's induction. He was inducted as an observer, the same as a writer or artist. Leroy Neiman never fought in the ring, he was an artist, yet when he was inducted in 2007, no one had a problem with it. Boxing could not have a better friend than Sylvester Stallone. If the IBHOF would have inducted Rocky Balboa as a fighter, that would be a problem, and I think that is how some people are taking it.

I wrote my thoughts on this when it was first announced that Stallone was being inducted. You can read it here: http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2010/12 ... -into.html

Randy, as much as I personally dislike Stallone (he's not well liked by film crews), I agree with what you are saying.
Sylvester Stallone is not a boxer, and he would never venture into a ring, his claim to fame is creating the highest grossing boxing flick in history. Rocky has well out grossed true boxing films such as the Raging Bull, etc. Everybody knows who "Rocky Balboa" is, not as many know who Jake LaMotta was. Sad but true. There is no need for me to share what film techs, like myself, think of pompus actors, like Stallone. Seeing the warm charactor of Rocky Balboa really proves that Stallone is a great actor, because he is able to hide one of the most repulsive, egotistical personalities in Hollywood.

As the former Chairman of the WBHOF selection committee, would I have petitioned for Stallone's WBHOF induction in the same "observer" catagory?
Yes I would, without question. I would do it not for Stallone's contribution to boxing (which was nothing), I would do it for his celebriity power. I'd do it becasue I know it would help sell tables, people like to be around celebrities and I would use his fame anyway I could to benefit our organization.

The IBHOF has a strong class this year, basicly the same group as the WBHOF would have inducted last year.
In poor economic times, Stallone's appearance should "boost the gate" and if they are smart they will focus a lot of cameras on "Rocky & Tyson", play that angle.
I have no flowery memories of guys like Sylvester Stallone, however, his brother Frank is a pretty good guy.
My friend Reb Brown just starred in a low budget movie with Frank. They filmed it in the south and just finished production a month ago. Reb and Stallone hit it off and had a great time discussing boxing. Frank Stallone is a boxing historian of sorts, and was interested in attending this year's CBHOF event with Reb. Reb will be in Arizona on that weekend, and I have not followed up by calling Frank and inviting him, but Reb said he wanted to go and gave me his number. I met Frank in the late 70's, and we boxed together once at the "Left Hook Gym" in the S.F. Valley during the Actors strike in 1978. Frank told me he had boxed amateur in Florida, and was a pretty good boxer. My table is full so I will likely wait and invite Frank to attend next year, when Reb will be present. I think Frank Stallone is dating Jackie Kallan, one of my former WBHOF associates, so he may be going to the event anyway.

Rick, There's some film of Frank Stallone sparring with Carlos Palomino on the set of Rocky, on youtube, have you seen it?..

No, Paul. To be honest, not much interested in watching him spar, especially background in a movie.

John Leichty coincidence?

I just learned that this year's CBHOF Inductee John Liechty and I both worked as bouncers together along with actor Reb Brown back in 1975, before I went to work in the film industry.
The place was an Irish pub in Manhatten Beach, "Brennan's". Brown worked there while breaking in as an actor.
Those were wild days, especially on St. Patricks day!.
On a couple of occasions we had former lightweight contender Jimmy Robertson working with us.
I knew John looked familiar, but I just assumed it was from boxing, but I didn't know him from boxing.
We did our fighting together, tossing out A-holes.

Rick Farris wrote:John Leichty coincidence?

I just learned that this year's CBHOF Inductee John Liechty and I both worked as bouncers together along with actor Reb Brown back in 1975, before I went to work in the film industry.
The place was an Irish pub in Manhatten Beach, "Brennan's". Brown worked there while breaking in as an actor.
Those were wild days, especially on St. Patricks day!.
On a couple of occasions we had former lightweight contender Jimmy Robertson working with us.
I knew John looked familiar, but I just assumed it was from boxing, but I didn't know him from boxing.
We did our fighting together, tossing out A-holes.

Rick Farris wrote:

Cholo wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:
Randy, as much as I personally dislike Stallone (he's not well liked by film crews), I agree with what you are saying.
Sylvester Stallone is not a boxer, and he would never venture into a ring, his claim to fame is creating the highest grossing boxing flick in history. Rocky has well out grossed true boxing films such as the Raging Bull, etc. Everybody knows who "Rocky Balboa" is, not as many know who Jake LaMotta was. Sad but true. There is no need for me to share what film techs, like myself, think of pompus actors, like Stallone. Seeing the warm charactor of Rocky Balboa really proves that Stallone is a great actor, because he is able to hide one of the most repulsive, egotistical personalities in Hollywood.

As the former Chairman of the WBHOF selection committee, would I have petitioned for Stallone's WBHOF induction in the same "observer" catagory?
Yes I would, without question. I would do it not for Stallone's contribution to boxing (which was nothing), I would do it for his celebriity power. I'd do it becasue I know it would help sell tables, people like to be around celebrities and I would use his fame anyway I could to benefit our organization.

The IBHOF has a strong class this year, basicly the same group as the WBHOF would have inducted last year.
In poor economic times, Stallone's appearance should "boost the gate" and if they are smart they will focus a lot of cameras on "Rocky & Tyson", play that angle.
I have no flowery memories of guys like Sylvester Stallone, however, his brother Frank is a pretty good guy.
My friend Reb Brown just starred in a low budget movie with Frank. They filmed it in the south and just finished production a month ago. Reb and Stallone hit it off and had a great time discussing boxing. Frank Stallone is a boxing historian of sorts, and was interested in attending this year's CBHOF event with Reb. Reb will be in Arizona on that weekend, and I have not followed up by calling Frank and inviting him, but Reb said he wanted to go and gave me his number. I met Frank in the late 70's, and we boxed together once at the "Left Hook Gym" in the S.F. Valley during the Actors strike in 1978. Frank told me he had boxed amateur in Florida, and was a pretty good boxer. My table is full so I will likely wait and invite Frank to attend next year, when Reb will be present. I think Frank Stallone is dating Jackie Kallan, one of my former WBHOF associates, so he may be going to the event anyway.

Rick, There's some film of Frank Stallone sparring with Carlos Palomino on the set of Rocky, on youtube, have you seen it?..

No, Paul. To be honest, not much interested in watching him spar, especially background in a movie.

Rick, It's a filmed sparring session, not background..

Then again Rick, I've just watched it again, it's a crap sparring session..

Cholo wrote:Then again Rick, I've just watched it again, it's a crap sparring session..

It was 1980, during a Screen Actors Guild strike in our industry, that Frank Stallone asked me if I'd "like to move around with him in the ring." This was at Ray Notaro's "Left Hook Gym" in Reseda. Notaro was a friend/trainer of Stallone for the Rocky pictures. I was just a bored, 28-year-old out-of-work film tech trying to stay in shape. He was bigger than I was, but a very inexperienced boxer who claimed to have fought amateur in Florida. He showed me that he could box a little bit, but I was respectful to not take advantage of him. He did not know how to protect the right side of his body and I remember giving him a little tap in the liver area. I didn't throw a hard punch, but he needed a moment to catch his breath. If he was working out with Palomino, well, Carlos had to be taking it very easy, like he would any inexperienced person. However, I was impressed that Frank had a lot more humility than his brother. I've been told he really knows his boxing and one day I'm certain we'll cross paths again.