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CNorkusJr wrote:Too bad we all dont live close by together. As a group, we could go get a big kid out of reform school or somewhere and train him ourselves to be the next Heavyweight Champ.!!!


Rule # 1 Too many cooks can spoil the broth.

We can all spend an hour a week with him, and by Friday, the poor kid would be so mixed up in stances and upper cuts that he would want us to put back in reform school.

An even better idea would be to pool our resources together and open an old school boxing gym.

Charley, thanks for stopping by my website and posting (on Don Fraser). Appreciate that.

Frank, hope that everything goes well for you.

- Chuck Johnston

Thank You Randy, 2001 was a horror for all of our nation.
You would have been very proud to witness our nation as all America seemed to have come to New York to assist us here in New York. Canada and other countries as well sent us firefighters to help us. Thousands of emergency workers, on their own time and expense came to New York. Many, Many had the forethought to bring their dress uniforms with them.

After 2 days at the WTC site, all lower Manhattan was cut off access to all but firefighters and police,ambulance workers and residents. Check points on each street leading into the area was set up. Most residents left to live elsewhere, some stayed but food and amenities were very limited.

Emergency workers from different states came in to assist. Fire Depts from New Jersey and Long Island literally drove their dept's spare fire trucks into New York and literally dropped off the keys at various firehouses saying "Bring it back when your done with it".
More than 33% of the entire FDNY fleet of trucks and chiefs cars and ambulances were destroyed or severely damaged by the collapse of the various bldgs.(Several hundred vehicles).Fire fighters lived in the firehouses with us, and the tourist trade had many hotel vacancies caused by cancellations were filled by emergency workers and red cross.Relocated residents too.

Firefighters with dress uniforms supplemented our ranks at funerals and memorial services.
When a fire fighter dies in the line of duty, it is not uncommon for upwards of 10,000 firefighters and police to fill our ranks at the service lining the streets in front the church or house of worship for a proper show of respect to the family. Quite moving.

During 9-11 period our ranks were stretched to the max. With depleted manpower and upwards of 4-5 services held on a rare day throughout the NY-NJ area, we were lucky to get 1,000 emergency workers at the various services. Other depts members helped fill those ranks to close to 5,000 on average per service at a critical time.

Since 2003, when things began to quiet down memorial service wise, (people are still being identified to this date by DNA), my union-the Uniformed Firefighters Assoc of New York(UFA)
now foots a bill to send 6 firefighters in uniform to all funerals in the US that involved a professional firefighters line of duty death. The time off (vac time) by the firefighter to go comes at his expense as the city wont give him time. 6 different members volunteer each time. This practice will go on in pertuity.If feasable, many more go on their time and expense.

About 2006, 9 members of the Charlestown, SC Fire Dept lost their lives in a auto dealership fire. We read that a proper fire dept band was not available to them.
Just about every New York City Fire Dept Bagpipe and drums member got in their cars and drove to attend this event. The funeral and memorial service was held enmasse in the Charleston SC Convention Center- 12,000 seat arena. THe service is on youtube with the FDNY band marching in.

I'll post it.

It was a particular trying time for our nation , but also a unforgettable experience as our Nation came to rescue us in all sorts of needs that had to be filled. I am a PROUD AMERICAN and I'm sure we are all proud too..

Randyman wrote:Charley, thanks for stopping by my website and posting (on Don Fraser). Appreciate that.

Don is a very Special Man.

The Charleston FD service with FDNY Band coming in.

http://youtu.be/gQcR-NgML3U
and
http://youtu.be/jTVYO9wPVeI

They also went on lead the procession in the street and split up to put a couple of bagpipers and drum sets at the gravesites services.

CNorkusJr wrote:Thank You Randy, 2001 was a horror for all of our nation.
You would have been very proud to witness our nation as all America seemed to have come to New York to assist us here in New York. Canada and other countries as well sent us firefighters to help us. Thousands of emergency workers, on their own time and expense came to New York. Many, Many had the forethought to bring their dress uniforms with them.

After 2 days at the WTC site, all lower Manhattan was cut off access to all but firefighters and police,ambulance workers and residents. Check points on each street leading into the area was set up. Most residents left to live elsewhere, some stayed but food and amenities were very limited.

Emergency workers from different states came in to assist. Fire Depts from New Jersey and Long Island literally drove their dept's spare fire trucks into New York and literally dropped off the keys at various firehouses saying "Bring it back when your done with it".
More than 33% of the entire FDNY fleet of trucks and chiefs cars and ambulances were destroyed or severely damaged by the collapse of the various bldgs.(Several hundred vehicles).Fire fighters lived in the firehouses with us, and the tourist trade had many hotel vacancies caused by cancellations were filled by emergency workers and red cross.Relocated residents too.

Firefighters with dress uniforms supplemented our ranks at funerals and memorial services.
When a fire fighter dies in the line of duty, it is not uncommon for upwards of 10,000 firefighters and police to fill our ranks at the service lining the streets in front the church or house of worship for a proper show of respect to the family. Quite moving.

During 9-11 period our ranks were stretched to the max. With depleted manpower and upwards of 4-5 services held on a rare day throughout the NY-NJ area, we were lucky to get 1,000 emergency workers at the various services. Other depts members helped fill those ranks to close to 5,000 on average per service at a critical time.

Since 2003, when things began to quiet down memorial service wise, (people are still being identified to this date by DNA), my union-the Uniformed Firefighters Assoc of New York(UFA)
now foots a bill to send 6 firefighters in uniform to all funerals in the US that involved a professional firefighters line of duty death. The time off (vac time) by the firefighter to go comes at his expense as the city wont give him time. 6 different members volunteer each time. This practice will go on in pertuity.If feasable, many more go on their time and expense.

About 2006, 9 members of the Charlestown, SC Fire Dept lost their lives in a auto dealership fire. We read that a proper fire dept band was not available to them.
Just about every New York City Fire Dept Bagpipe and drums member got in their cars and drove to attend this event. The funeral and memorial service was held enmasse in the Charleston SC Convention Center- 12,000 seat arena. THe service is on youtube with the FDNY band marching in.

I'll post it.

It was a particular trying time for our nation , but also a unforgettable experience as our Nation came to rescue us in all sorts of needs that had to be filled. I am a PROUD AMERICAN and I'm sure we are all proud too..

Charley, thank you for that first hand account. Awe inspiring. I give all praise to the Fire Departments, Police Departments, Emergency services and to all those that dedicate their lives in service to their nation, as well as the Armed Forces. There is a special place in heaven for all of you.

Yes, I am proud to be an American but when I read something like this it just reinforces that pride. I am really looking forward to shaking your hand next year and meeting your family.

CNorkusJr wrote:The Charleston FD service with FDNY Band coming in.

http://youtu.be/gQcR-NgML3U
and
http://youtu.be/jTVYO9wPVeI

They also went on lead the procession in the street and split up to put a couple of bagpipers and drum sets at the gravesites services.

Had ti turn it off. The bagpipes and drums always gets to me. Thanks for the link.

Joe Louis Humanitarian Award

kikibalt wrote:Joe Louis Humanitarian Award

Never saw this Frank. It is an exceptional post. Thank You.
Is this medal & honor yours ?

CNorkusJr wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Joe Louis Humanitarian Award

Never saw this Frank. It is an exceptional post. Thank You.
Is this medal & honor yours ?

Yes Charlie, I was awarded the Joe Louis Humanitarian Award three years ago.

kikibalt wrote:

CNorkusJr wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Joe Louis Humanitarian Award

Never saw this Frank. It is an exceptional post. Thank You.
Is this medal & honor yours ?

Yes Charlie, I was awarded the Joe Louis Humanitarian Award three years ago.

Sweet medal Frank where do you keep it?

Panzerfaust wrote:
Sweet medal Frank where do you keep it?

It hanging on the wall with other awards.

Our sons Bobby and Frankie with Connie and I. The medal hangs on my neck, right after it was awarded to me.
Connie also was given an award, the "Tender Heart" award, the tender heart award is given to the women...
for putting up with us men, who pay more attention to boxing than we do to them...

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

Panzerfaust wrote: Tom, after that devestating loss to Manuels special, I have decided to take a step back in class and fight the Kid Hollenbeck's for the remainder of my career , but the best of luck to you pall If youre coming out for the CBHOF ill join in on the fun and maybe K.O a Hollenbeck on the undercard

The Big Event - Tom vs. Manuel . . .

Coming up in LA during the years of George Parnassus, I came to appreciate the International flavor of his promotions.
You had Olivares from Mexico, Alan Rudkin from Liverpool, Des Rea from Ireland, Rodrigo Valdez from Columbia, Napoles from Cuba via Mexico, etc., etc.

The second descendent of Scandanavian blood will attempt to blow out Manuel's candle right in his hometown of Boyle Heights.
Tom Ray doesn't match himself easy, he comes to L.A. challenging the best right in their backyard.
If it were the 40's he'd be calling out Bolanos in one of George Parnassus restaurants, the 50's he'd be bating Art Aragon in that bar on Sunset, in the 60's he'd be spitting on the shoes of Jerry Quarry in the Quarry family bar in Norwalk.
In 2012, the hot kid in town is a $20 Burrito in ELA. I'd rather take my chances with Quarry.

Remy will take on Kid Hollenbeck in the semi-main. The Norwegian opens as a solid 2-1 favorite over Manuel's little brother.
We have the undefeated & undisputed retired champ, Randy De La O who will make a special appearance.
Sadly, nobody in the area capable of singing the Norwegian or Swedish National Anthyms before the matches, however, if I can convince Dan Hanley & Pop to join us, we'll get together and hum a spirited version of "Danny Boy"
In lieu of Pat O'Grady not being present to paste shamrocks or Swedish flags on the walls of Manuels, I'll wear a T-shirt with a Swedish flag on the back. They won't know I'm not a Swede, "just another gabacho" in the barrio.

We should sell tickets for this one!

I'm already in training. Today, I polished off three Einstein's Bageldogs, two pickles and a bag of chips for lunch.

Normally, I eat two bageldogs - but today I ordered three.

Linda asked me why I got three bageldogs. "I'm in training," said I.

"In training?? In training for what?"

"For the Manuel. Next time I'm in LA, I'm tackling a giant burrito called the Manuel. Rick and Frank dared me."

"You're a 56-year-old grandfather. When will you finally grow up?"

Not until after I kayo the Manuel!

Calling Manuel out! . . .

Tom . . . If you'll allow me to offer a few conditioning tips, don't start your training too early, as you won't be facing Manuel until June.
Preparing for this match too soon could result in a heart attack or chronic gas syndrome .
In the new year, begin to spend more time at that Mexican restaurant near your home.
When there, condition your body to the feel and effects of refried beans, rice, meat and tortillas.
If they make a burrito there, start with their biggest burrito, and by the time you leave for L.A., have yourself trained to consume five (5) of their big ones in one setting. What killed Remy wasn't just the amount of food he ate, but the consistency of the food. Italian food is not as heavy as Mexican food, Remy boasted of eating a giant calzone and after tying into MAnuel realized that even a huge calzone is like dieters treat by comparison . Manuel is a super heavyweight and he's made up of lots of heavy ingredients. The chunks of meat (beef, pork, or chicken) are huge, not to be eaten in one bite. The salsa covering Manuel includes a blanket of meat. To defeat Manuel and take his title, you have to eat the burrito and all of the meat laced salsa.
I got faith in you, Tom. Maybe you can tack Manuel's scalp on the wall of your office when this is all over.
Ray Arcel never worked with a challenger that beat Joe Louis, it's my goal to find a charge that can stop Manuel.
If you can defeat Manuel, you will be "El Gran Gabacho". The flag of Sweden will fly with honor in ELA. That is until the vatos take it down and use it to polish their cars.

kikibalt wrote:

Our sons Bobby and Frankie with Connie and I. The medal hangs on my neck, right after it was awarded to me.
Connie also was given an award, the "Tender Heart" award, the tender heart award is given to the women...
for putting up with us men, who pay more attention to boxing than we do to them...

That Joe Louis award is the highest honor presented to an LA boxing icon.
Great photo- Great family!

Randyman wrote:

CNorkusJr wrote:

Panzerfaust wrote: Im back safe and sound.... and not even broke( i worked late today, though just to be nice)

luggage came a week later wich was a little head ache , but on the bright side i didnt have to drag it from the airport and home

A Airport Luggage story..........

In 2003, I needed to get away from New York. I told Rosie "anywhere-further the better".... The horrors of 2001 has now lasted as a 2 year nightmare for me. My mom passed away suddenly in June 2001, then 9-11 hit, less than 90 days later. After working on the pile at the WTC for 6 months, and attending the Memorial Services and Funerals you could ever fit into a lifetime- I told her I needed a mental break from the stress.

We chose Savannah, Georgia for a 5 days. We been there before, and found it tranquil,good restaurants and just a pleasant place to be. The South seems to be a much less slower paced than NY, as is with many other places and cities in the USA.

We landed at Savannah Airport, pretty modern and up to date as airport standards go, and of course a heightened security level that was permeating all our airports nationawide. Leaving NY was easy enough, and landing in Savannah was even easier.

After our delightful stay, rejuvenated my batteries and got the heart rate down, we packed for home. Rose got up and took a shower then was going to pack her bags, I packed my bags first leaving out what I needed for the trip home then took my shower after Ro.
While I took my shower, Rose realized she bought more stuff than her bags can handle
and to make room, took her toiletries and hair dryer w/cord and put them in my luggage without mentioning it to me.

When we got to the airport we checked in and flew home. Security standards had me strip down to my civies because an inhaler I had in my pocket kept activating the security beep.
No big deal, minor delay and I didnt mind.
At LaGuardia airport, the nightmare began. Waiting for our luggage, Rose's came through but mine did not. After waiting for the carousel to be empty, we proceded to the security booth to report of missing luggage-mine.
After a delay on the computer the attendant was using and a taxi out front waiting to give us a ride home, finally the attendant called me over and asked one question " Sir, did you have any electronics in your luggage ?" My immediate answer was "No". Rose standing next to me listening. Again he asked' Describe your luggage ? & Did you have any electronics ?"
Turning to Rose, I said "Did you put anything in my luggage" she said "No".

He had me fill out a form and he told me they are trying to track it down. They "Dont have it". They will call me if they find it. We went home after a 90 minute wait for this.
At home Rose unpacked her bag, as we talked about this hassle. I was pissed off to no end at the airlines. After Rose unpacked she uttered "Uh-OH". I thought no further and by the sound of her uh-oh wanted to strangle her. She said she put her corded hair dryer in my bag without telling me.She "forgot"- 5 hours earlier-she "forgot".
Do you think an xray of the luggage , that hair dryer would look like a bomb ?

The procedure is to call the airlines everyday for a recorded message on my case number. After 5 days-a rep called me and asked me if I had any electronics in my luggage.
I told her that I didnt but my knucklehead wife did. The hair dryer. They delivered the luggage the next day with duct tape wrapped around it as they cut open the nylon cover to access the bag. A note inside said that the FAA is not responsible for damaged luggage due to security reasons. Law # such and such.
Rose and her items must now stand inspection before and coming home from airplane flights by my security inspection.

I can't imagine the horrors of living in NY at that time, and being a fireman to boot! Tough guys New Yorkers!

My condolences on the loss of your mother.

I have a lot of NY buddies. All "stand-up" guys.
Don't be surprised if for the first time in history, New York, New Jersy and Southern Claifornia will all come together at one point to honor American boxing greats.

Frank . . . You are in my thoughts and prayers today.
I just pray they can stabilize your medication. We have a big CBHOF next year.

Tom . . . If you whip Manuel, you may be nominated for the "Joe Louis Award", just like the one Frank was presented.

kikibalt wrote:

Panzerfaust wrote:
Sweet medal Frank where do you keep it?

It hanging on the wall with other awards.

Frank . . .

You have been honored by the World Boxing Hall of Fame (the "Johnny Flores Award")
You were inducted into the California Boxing Hall of Fame
You received the "Joe Louis" medallion from the Golden State Boxer's Association
You have been presented citations from both the City & County of Los Angeles for your contributions to boxing and the youth of Southern Cal!

Anymore awards and you'll have to add another wall.

What's happening in our town this weekend . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlLZ4RWyyAw

This is really good. Sent to me by our friend, film maker Alan Swyer ("El Boxeo" producer).

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Panzerfaust wrote:
Sweet medal Frank where do you keep it?

It hanging on the wall with other awards.

Frank . . .

You have been honored by the World Boxing Hall of Fame (the "Johnny Flores Award")
You were inducted into the California Boxing Hall of Fame
You received the "Joe Louis" medallion from the Golden State Boxer's Association
You have been presented citations from both the City & County of Los Angeles for your contributions to boxing and the youth of Southern Cal!

Anymore awards and you'll have to add another wall.

Wow, I had no idea Frank... great stuff

If anyone need a laugh check this out : http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=140288

Erislandy Lara will still have a loss on his record that he does not deserve, but his complaints of a robbery in his fight with Paul Williams on Saturday in Atlantic City, N.J., received an unexpected boost Wednesday when the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board took the unusual step of suspending the three judges who officiated the bout.



New Jersey has suspended the judges involved in Saturday's controversial Paul Williams (L)-Erislandy Lada bout.
(AP)

New Jersey indefinitely suspended judges Al Bennett, Hilton Whitaker and Don Givens on Wednesday for their work in the fight, which was broadcast on HBO. A big underdog, Lara lost a majority decision by scores of 116-114 (Givens), 115-114 (Whitaker) and 114-114 (Bennett) in a bout that nearly all who saw it other than the judges and those affiliated with Williams (40-2) felt Lara won convincingly.

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HBO’s unofficial ringside scorer, Harold Lederman, a long-time professional judge, had it 117-111 for Lara (15-1-1). Former world champion Roy Jones Jr. was outraged by the call and likened it to the decision against him at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul, South Korea, that is widely regarded as one of the worst boxing judgments in history. Yahoo! Sports scored Saturday’s bout for Lara, 116-112.

After a review, New Jersey officials did not determine the decision to be corrupt and, as a result, found no basis for overturning it.

In a statement, Aaron M. Davis, commissioner of the NJSACB, said he was “unsatisfied with the scoring of the contest.”

“This agency has placed all three judges on indefinite suspension,” Davis stated. “Further, all three judges will be required to undergo additional training prior to their return to professional boxing judging.

“Any contestant who enters a ring or cage in our state deserves the best officiating that we can provide. While we do not mean to diminish Mr. Williams’ competitive spirit and exciting style, we feel that we did not provide our best officiating on July 9.”

Rather, all three of the judges are very inexperienced calling fights at the highest level. Givens never scored a fight that was an HBO or Showtime main event. The most notable fights on Whitaker’s record were Zab Judah-Lucas Matthysse from earlier this year and Glen Johnson-Clinton Woods in 2004. Bennett’s most prominent bout was the 2006 match between Bernard Hopkins and Antonio Tarver.

Williams’ promoter, Dan Goossen, did not seem particularly bothered by Smith’s decision to suspend the judges, though he has a vested interest in toeing the line. Andre Ward, whom Goossen promotes, will meet Carl Froch in the finals of Showtime’s Super 6 tournament on Oct. 29 in Atlantic City.

Goossen, who has previously stated he wanted Williams to move on and would not consider a rematch, declined to say if the suspensions would make a rematch more likely.

“My only comment, which I’ve said before and I’ll say again, is that I’ve got no problem with anyone who felt Lara won that fight,” Goossen said. “The only problem I’ve had and I’ve said it from the beginning is that I was dissatisfied with the way the on-air [HBO] announcers spoke of Paul Williams and the way they described the fight.

“I can’t define what this means or put it into any context, but I accept it because it’s New Jersey and I respect the commission there.”

Goossen said he would talk with Williams before discussing a rematch publicly. In his statement, however, Davis said he thought a rematch should be considered, though New Jersey is unable to order it.

“The NJSACB does not have the legal authority, under these circumstances, to invalidate the official result,” Davis said in his statement. “This is due to the fact that all scoring is a matter of subjective judgment. In a similar fashion, we cannot mandate a rematch. However, our opinion is that a rematch may be warranted.”

Promoter Lou DiBella, who was not involved in Saturday’s show but promotes Williams rival Sergio Martinez, was pleased that New Jersey took actions to correct the error.

DiBella said he thought Lara clearly won the fight. He said that he had been planning to write the New Jersey commission on behalf of Martinez and request that Givens, Bennett and Whitaker not work his Oct. 1 fight in Atlantic City against Darren Barker.

“This is a positive step and Commissioner Davis should be commended,” DiBella said.

If there is a rematch, it won’t be any time soon. Williams suffered a deep cut on his left eye and Lara sustained a facial fracture as the result of a clash of heads. Lara is unable to train or fly for six to eight weeks as a result of the fracture. He had to drive home to Florida from New Jersey because of the injury.

David Itskowitch, Golden Boy’s chief operating officer, said the letter only cemented the belief in Lara’s camp that he was the winner.

“Our position is that he won the fight,” Itskowitch said. “Lara’s position has been that he won the fight and his management team’s position is that he won the fight. That was the case on Saturday, it’s still the case now and I feel that the NJSACB’s letter validates that position.”

Thank you guys for all you kind words.

I am back from seeing the cardiologist at USC U., I came home hooked up to a Holter ECG Monitor, will be hook to this thing for 24 hours, tomorrow I'll go back so it can be taken off. On Aug. 2 I will do a echocardiogram test and a stress test.