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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 10:42
by CNorkusJr
Thank You Rick, you made my nephews day with this post.
They think you know Spiderman personally and cant wait to meet you.
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 10:46
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:I know there is a championship fight on Saturday, but I can't remember who's fighting....

Is Kahn-Judah a title fight? There may be another, I'll have to check the schedule.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 10:47
by Rick Farris
Cholo wrote:Rick Farris wrote:kikibalt wrote:Alvarez to defend title at Staples Center
Mexico's Saul "Canelo" Alvarez will defend his world super-welterweight belt Sept. 17 at Staples Center against former "The Contender" reality-TV fighter Alfonso Gomez, boxing officials said.
Alvarez (37-0-1, 27 KOs) claimed the belt at Anaheim's Honda Center in March, then defended it with a 12th-round technical knockout of Ryan Rhodes in June. The fight against Gomez (23-4-2) will be the main event of the Staples card, and be televised as part of the Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Victor Ortiz pay-per-view card from MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Golden Boy Promotions also said former world champion Erik Morales will fight Anthony Crolla in Las Vegas that night.
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When the hell is Alvarez going to fight somebody that is not a human punching bag??....
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Gomez is nothing more than a class B fighter, always has been, and always will be....

This is irritating. They are treating this fighter like he is a baby, some boy wonder?
Mando Ramos was a "Boy Wonder", at 20 Mando was a legitimate world champion, and fighting the best lightweights of a tough era.
Wilfredo Benitez was just 17 when he won the Jr. Welterweight world title. He fought great fighters.
They absolutely do not see the value in allowing a fighter to be challenged. Keep in mind Canelo is not all that young.
He matured young physically, and has been fighting pro a full five years with nearly 40 pro fights under his belt.
He is already in the "veteran catagory".
They are ruining a potentially good fighter. He will never grow, just as 90% of today's boxers do not grow once they show some potemtial of box office appeal. His opposition will keep him on a lower level, and I believe he has already peaked ability wise. From here on he stops learning, that is what young, educated cable TV execs do when they call the shots in boxing.
Everything today must be a fairy tale.
Here is one to think about . . . Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Art "The Golden Boy" Aragon.
Imagine that Art Aragon was a great boxer who just wasn't good enough to win a world title in his era.
Then you have a guy like Canelo parading around with a world championship?
What do you think Aragon woud do with Canelo?

Rick, "Golden Boy" Aragon would have had too much for these so called champions today..

I think so, Paul. He could phone in a victory over these stiffs.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 12:08
by kikibalt
A kid from the Maravilla Projects in East L.A. fighting in Japan
http://youtu.be/epqqu4sS5Mo
Jose Luis Pimentel vs Shozo Saijo
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 12:18
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:Cholo wrote:Rick Farris wrote:
This is irritating. They are treating this fighter like he is a baby, some boy wonder?
Mando Ramos was a "Boy Wonder", at 20 Mando was a legitimate world champion, and fighting the best lightweights of a tough era.
Wilfredo Benitez was just 17 when he won the Jr. Welterweight world title. He fought great fighters.
They absolutely do not see the value in allowing a fighter to be challenged. Keep in mind Canelo is not all that young.
He matured young physically, and has been fighting pro a full five years with nearly 40 pro fights under his belt.
He is already in the "veteran catagory".
They are ruining a potentially good fighter. He will never grow, just as 90% of today's boxers do not grow once they show some potemtial of box office appeal. His opposition will keep him on a lower level, and I believe he has already peaked ability wise. From here on he stops learning, that is what young, educated cable TV execs do when they call the shots in boxing.
Everything today must be a fairy tale.
Here is one to think about . . . Saul "Canelo" Alvarez vs. Art "The Golden Boy" Aragon.
Imagine that Art Aragon was a great boxer who just wasn't good enough to win a world title in his era.
Then you have a guy like Canelo parading around with a world championship?
What do you think Aragon woud do with Canelo?

Rick, "Golden Boy" Aragon would have had too much for these so called champions today..

I think so, Paul. He could phone in a victory over these stiffs.

But knowing Art he would probably try to pay them off to take a dive...

, Art never did things the easy way....

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 13:34
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:A kid from the Maravilla Projects in East L.A. fighting in Japan
http://youtu.be/epqqu4sS5Mo
Jose Luis Pimentel vs Shozo Saijo
Saijyo-Pimentel . . .
Frank, Joe scored a very controversial decision over Saijyo in one of the Japanese boxers first L.A. appearances.
Saijyo decisioned in him in a rematch, then gave him a title shot after taking the championship from Raul Rojas.
I boxed with Joe Pimentel quite a few times at Main Street. Like his twin, Jesus, Joe had heavy hands. But Saijyo was more skilled.
I consider Shozo Saijyo Japan's most under rated fighter.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 14:04
by Rick Farris
CNorkusJr wrote:
Thank You Rick, you made my nephews day with this post.
They think you know Spiderman personally and cant wait to meet you.
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The Wonder of a hero . . .
Charlie . . . My close friend, actor Reb Brown, was the original "Captain America".
In 1979-80, he played the role in the two TV movies produced by Universal.
Of course, now there is a new Captain America in a soon to be released feature film.
Reb has been my guest at the past two CBHOF luncheons, and will likely be at next year's as well.
That's about as close as I can come to introducing the nephews to an action hero.
I remember more than thirty years ago, I did a brief stint on "Wonder Woman" which was filmed at Warner Bros.
My God daughter was just a little girl at the time and a fan of Wonder Woman.
One day I got she and her mother a pass to visit the Wonder Woman stage.
I remember the moment Linda Carter walked onto the set in costume, Kami saw her for the first and her eyes widened, and her mouth dropped open.
When I introduced her to Wonder Woman she was in total awe.
That is so much fun, when you can enjoy in the amazment of a child.
Kami was too young to understand the film making process at the time, so to her she was actually meeting Wonder Woman.
I will go out of my way to make sure this is possible for any child to experience. I had that as a kid, and it really is unforgetable.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 14:42
by Panzerfaust
Shotgun Albarado wins title :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0mPy_C5 ... re=related (i think... not done watching)
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 17:08
by Rick Farris
Reb Brown interviewed at recent premiere of "Captain America" . . .
http://www.5min.com/Video/Reb-Brown-TVs ... -517129605
Reb Boxed for Johnny Flores in the 1970 & 1971 Los Angeles Diamond Belt Championships.
Reb, myself and John Liecty were all bouncers together at Brennan's Pub, Manhatten Beach in 1976.
We've been friends more than forty years. I'll share some Reb Brown stories. Classics.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 20:03
by Rick Farris
"The Great Race" . . .
This was my Grandfather's second to last film. Jack Lemmon, Natalie Wood, Tony Curtis, Peter Falk, and a young actress named Doroty Provine. A year earlier, while working on a Warner's TV series, "The Roaring 20's", my grandfather introduced me to her as she was one of the series stars. Now she's playing a singer in The Great Race.
I visited Warner's largest Stage-16, the studios highest and biggest. 16 has a tank, and when filled with water the tank can be transformed into an ocean, complete with wave making machines manned by special effects techs. A huge cycloramic backing that looks like the sky, properly lit and photographed looks pretty real to even a trained eye. That's what I saw on 16 the day I visited my Grandfather back when I was about 12. The lighting was massive, lots of luminance necessary to expose the earliest, very slow Eastman film stock. I didn't realize until years later, my grandad's simple explanation to a kid would some how sink in. He was subtly teaching me how to layer light, create depth, balance color, to expose and conceal. When you do it so good that it enhances the script and feel of the image, quietly controlling the viewers perspective, then you have a well lit set. The movie was a comedy, so they lit it bright, "up" as we say. To achieve that took so much power and illumination, the sets would become very hot. Today big air conditioners blast when the sound is not rolling, but in those days ceiling vents were the only form of ventalation. I would later work on some big films myself on that stage, but I'll never forget it when my grandfather was working. I also remember him doing "My Fair Lady" on 16, and the original "Ocean's 11", and his last, "Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf".
By the way, the cinematographer that hired my Grandfather to light his film was Russell Harlan.
Russ was an Academy Award winner, and also was the Director of Photography on this thread's mascot film, "The Ring".
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 20:38
by Rick Farris
Note: I mentioned that it took a lot of electric power to light the Stage-16 set of The Great Race.
To be specific, roughly 2,500,000 watts of DC power to light that one huge set. And that is no record.
To support the needs of set lighting, power would be jumped in from other stages, cross rigged.
Studios have their own power plants. Most are self contained little neighborhoods. Universal is a true city with it's own zip code.
Today we have faster film, more latitude with regard to exposure, state of the art lighting options
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 20:48
by Rick Farris
Leaving the land of "The Kept Man" . . .
Going to work three days next week on re-shoots for the next "Muppet Movie".
Starting to roll out of the "Kept Man" position and into one that's far less stressful.
I have some commercials lined up for next month and a feature film in October.
Frank, I didn't know how challenging the kept man job could be. She actually expects me to be doing things around the house?
I tell her, "I don't make a mess and I clean up after myself? That's as good as it gets"
However, I also told her, "I'll be glad to put gas in your tank whenever you need it." Frank, I got the "gas station" idea from you.
In my case, we live two blocks from Art's Deli. Monica walks to work so she doesn't drive her car much.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 22:25
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:Leaving the land of "The Kept Man" . . .
Going to work three days next week on re-shoots for the next "Muppet Movie".
Starting to roll out of the "Kept Man" position and into one that's far less stressful.
I have some commercials lined up for next month and a feature film in October.
Frank, I didn't know how challenging the kept man job could be. She actually expects me to be doing things around the house?
I tell her, "I don't make a mess and I clean up after myself? That's as good as it gets"
However, I also told her, "I'll be glad to put gas in your tank whenever you need it." Frank, I got the "gas station" idea from you.
In my case, we live two blocks from Art's Deli. Monica walks to work so she doesn't drive her car much.

Rick, you do have to do something now and then to pull the wool over their eyes. I tell Connie that I will go put gas on her car, she tells me "thank you babe", but when I tell her that she needs to give me the money for it, she tells me "you're an a-h"....

...that's what I get for trying to be nice...
Being a "Kept Man" is getting harder and harder...

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 21 Jul 2011, 23:35
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:Rick Farris wrote:Leaving the land of "The Kept Man" . . .
Going to work three days next week on re-shoots for the next "Muppet Movie".
Starting to roll out of the "Kept Man" position and into one that's far less stressful.
I have some commercials lined up for next month and a feature film in October.
Frank, I didn't know how challenging the kept man job could be. She actually expects me to be doing things around the house?
I tell her, "I don't make a mess and I clean up after myself? That's as good as it gets"
However, I also told her, "I'll be glad to put gas in your tank whenever you need it." Frank, I got the "gas station" idea from you.
In my case, we live two blocks from Art's Deli. Monica walks to work so she doesn't drive her car much.

Rick, you do have to do something now and then to pull the wool over their eyes. I tell Connie that I will go put gas on her car, she tells me "thank you babe", but when I tell her that she needs to give me the money for it, she tells me "you're an a-h"....

...that's what I get for trying to be nice...
Being a "Kept Man" is getting harder and harder...

OK, Frank. I'll be a nice guy and pay for Monica's gas. A tank of gas lasts her more than a month so it's a cost effective move.
Hell, I might even take her car and get it washed. I just have to be careful not to "spoil her", as described in chapter-13 of the KM Manuel.
An experienced kept man is good at keeping his wife wife off balance, kinda like you do. The break-in phase is critical for a kept man training his wife.
I might put off that break-in phase until later, and just go back to work.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 00:13
by CNorkusJr
http://boxingmemories.com/2011/04/04/bo ... andfather/
Maybe you saw this, maybe you didnt. Recent post on boxingmemories.com site.
Glad to see he is traveling the world- and not succumb to being home ridden.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 00:30
by Chuck1052
Today, I learned more about George Biddles, who managed Hogan "Kid" Bassey and Richard Dunn (the English heavyweight who fought Muhammad Ali). Biddles also managed Len Wickwar, who had 466 recorded pro bouts, and George Marsden, who had "only" recorded 318 pro bouts. According to BoxRec, Wickwar had more recorded pro bouts than any other boxer. He also had close to four thousand rounds during his career!
- Chuck Johnston
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 01:06
by Rick Farris
Chuck1052 wrote:Today, I learned more about George Biddles, who managed Hogan "Kid" Bassey and Richard Dunn (the English heavyweight who fought Muhammad Ali). Biddles also managed Len Wickwar, who had 466 recorded pro bouts, and George Marsden, who had "only" recorded 318 pro bouts. According to BoxRec, Wickwar had more recorded pro bouts than any other boxer. He also had close to four thousand rounds during his career!
- Chuck Johnston
John Bardelli wrote a nice essay on Len Wickwar. I'll see if he'll forward it to me to post.
I was amazed by Len Wickwar's record and history.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 09:25
by Chuck1052
Rick Farris wrote:Chuck1052 wrote:Today, I learned more about George Biddles, who managed Hogan "Kid" Bassey and Richard Dunn (the English heavyweight who fought Muhammad Ali). Biddles also managed Len Wickwar, who had 466 recorded pro bouts, and George Marsden, who had "only" recorded 318 pro bouts. According to BoxRec, Wickwar had more recorded pro bouts than any other boxer. He also had close to four thousand rounds during his career!
- Chuck Johnston
John Bardelli wrote a nice essay on Len Wickwar. I'll see if he'll forward it to me to post.
I was amazed by Len Wickwar's record and history.
Rick, I agree with you.
- Chuck Johnston
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 10:06
by Panzerfaust
A bomb just went of in the goverment quarter in Oslo, Norway. I passed the spot an hour earlier...
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 10:45
by kikibalt
Panzerfaust wrote:A bomb just went of in the goverment quarter in Oslo, Norway. I passed the spot an hour earlier...
I just heard about it. You okay Ram??
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 10:47
by kikibalt
Blast rocks central Oslo, Norway PM's office
ReutersBy Walter Gibbs and Alister Doyle | Reuters
OSLO (Reuters) - A huge explosion wrecked government buildings in central Oslo on Friday including Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg's office, injuring several people, a Reuters journalist said from the scene.
The cause of the blast was unknown but the tangled wreckage of a car was outside one building and the damage appeared consistent to witnesses with that from car bombs. Police and fire officials declined comment on the cause.
The blast blew out most windows on the 17-storey building housing Stoltenberg's office, as well as nearby ministries including the oil ministry, which was on fire.
Heavy debris littered the streets and a tall plume of brown smoke over the city center.
A Reuters correspondent counted at least eight injured people. Norwegian news agency NTB said that Stoltenberg was safe in the blast, which happened around 3:30 p.m. (9:30 a.m. EDT).
"It exploded -- it must have been a bomb. people ran in panic and ran. I counted at least 10 injured people," said Kjersti Vedun, who was leaving the area.
NATO member Norway has sometimes in the past been threatened by leaders of al Qaeda for its involvement in Afghanistan. It has also taken part the NATO bombing of Libya, where Muammar Gaddafi has threatened to strike back in Europe.
However, political violence is virtually unknown in the country.
David Lea, Western Europe analyst, at Control Risks said: "It's very difficult to tell what has happened. There certainly aren't any domestic Norwegian terrorist groups although there have been some al Qaeda-linked arrests from time to time.
"They are in Afghanistan and were involved in Libya, but it's far too soon to draw any conclusions."
(Writing by Alister Doyle; Editing by Alastair Macdonald)
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 10:52
by raylawpc
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 10:55
by Panzerfaust
kikibalt wrote:Panzerfaust wrote:A bomb just went of in the goverment quarter in Oslo, Norway. I passed the spot an hour earlier...
I just heard about it. You okay Ram??
yeah, i only witnessed it from the tv... just a bit surprised, even though ive been waiting for something like this to happen.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 11:02
by bennie
My collie is in the wars. He turned suddenly on the back seat of the car on Wednesday (to bark at a dog being walked on the pavement) and slipped a bloody disc, screaming in pain all the way to the vets, who stuck him on morphine and kept him in overnight. He's back home now but he's still unsteady and generally lame. He has eaten something today, at least.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 11:16
by raylawpc
Panzerfaust wrote:kikibalt wrote:Panzerfaust wrote:A bomb just went of in the goverment quarter in Oslo, Norway. I passed the spot an hour earlier...
I just heard about it. You okay Ram??
yeah, i only witnessed it from the tv... just a bit surprised, even though ive been waiting for something like this to happen.
Why have you been waiting for something like this to happen? The Scandinavians have a reputation in the U.S of being a very non-belligerent region with few enemies. I am not disagreeing with you; just curious why you thought Norway would be targeted for something like this.