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Rick Farris wrote:Jimmy Robertson did all of the above even in his prime. I never could understand how he could hang with the top LA. lightweights of the time; much less beat some of them....
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Frank, I understand what you're talking about. All I can say is there is something about these awkward guys, the one's who are tough and not afraid to take a chance. Robertson was a pretty good puncher, one of those guys who bruises you when he lands, you feel his crack. This is what I got from a friend of mine that Jimmy KOed early in his career. And he's always ready to jump on you. Like you, I was surprised when he started shooting down contenders. However, he was the unfortunate candidate to be Roberto Duran's first lightweight title defense. Although videos reveal something a little different, what Jimmy told me was that he and Duran exchanged right hands, Duran's landed. "I don't remember anything except the hospital, where I learned I'd had my front teeth knocked out." Jimmy worked as a mechanic at Gordon Shaw's Boat dealership, before, during and after his boxing career. Don't know what's become of him? Shaw has been dead for years.

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Jimmy Robertson did all of the above even in his prime. I never could understand how he could hang with the top LA. lightweights of the time; much less beat some of them....
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Frank, I understand what you're talking about. All I can say is there is something about these awkward guys, the one's who are tough and not afraid to take a chance. Robertson was a pretty good puncher, one of those guys who bruises you when he lands, you feel his crack. This is what I got from a friend of mine that Jimmy KOed early in his career. And he's always ready to jump on you. Like you, I was surprised when he started shooting down contenders. However, he was the unfortunate candidate to be Roberto Duran's first lightweight title defense. Although videos reveal something a little different, what Jimmy told me was that he and Duran exchanged right hands, Duran's landed. "I don't remember anything except the hospital, where I learned I'd had my front teeth knocked out." Jimmy worked as a mechanic at Gordon Shaw's Boat dealership, before, during and after his boxing career. Don't know what's become of him? Shaw has been dead for years.

His awkwardness was probably his best weapon. I think this explains my problem as a boxer . . . I was too graceful.

kikibalt wrote:Thanks for all the Art Aragon quotes Paul, keep'em coming....

kikibalt wrote:

Connie and Marshmallow

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Jimmy Robertson did all of the above even in his prime. I never could understand how he could hang with the top LA. lightweights of the time; much less beat some of them....
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Frank, I understand what you're talking about. All I can say is there is something about these awkward guys, the one's who are tough and not afraid to take a chance. Robertson was a pretty good puncher, one of those guys who bruises you when he lands, you feel his crack. This is what I got from a friend of mine that Jimmy KOed early in his career. And he's always ready to jump on you. Like you, I was surprised when he started shooting down contenders. However, he was the unfortunate candidate to be Roberto Duran's first lightweight title defense. Although videos reveal something a little different, what Jimmy told me was that he and Duran exchanged right hands, Duran's landed. "I don't remember anything except the hospital, where I learned I'd had my front teeth knocked out." Jimmy worked as a mechanic at Gordon Shaw's Boat dealership, before, during and after his boxing career. Don't know what's become of him? Shaw has been dead for years.

His awkwardness was probably his best weapon. I think this explains my problem as a boxer . . . I was too graceful.

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Connie and Marshmallow

My best to Connie and Marshmellow

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Jimmy Robertson did all of the above even in his prime. I never could understand how he could hang with the top LA. lightweights of the time; much less beat some of them....
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Frank, I understand what you're talking about. All I can say is there is something about these awkward guys, the one's who are tough and not afraid to take a chance. Robertson was a pretty good puncher, one of those guys who bruises you when he lands, you feel his crack. This is what I got from a friend of mine that Jimmy KOed early in his career. And he's always ready to jump on you. Like you, I was surprised when he started shooting down contenders. However, he was the unfortunate candidate to be Roberto Duran's first lightweight title defense. Although videos reveal something a little different, what Jimmy told me was that he and Duran exchanged right hands, Duran's landed. "I don't remember anything except the hospital, where I learned I'd had my front teeth knocked out." Jimmy worked as a mechanic at Gordon Shaw's Boat dealership, before, during and after his boxing career. Don't know what's become of him? Shaw has been dead for years.

His awkwardness was probably his best weapon. I think this explains my problem as a boxer . . . I was too graceful.

As smooth as silk Tom was.....

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote: His awkwardness was probably his best weapon. I think this explains my problem as a boxer . . . I was too graceful.

As smooth as silk Tom was.....

"Dancing with the Stars" material.

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote: His awkwardness was probably his best weapon. I think this explains my problem as a boxer . . . I was too graceful.

As smooth as silk Tom was.....

"Dancing with the Stars" material.

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote: As smooth as silk Tom was.....

"Dancing with the Stars" material.

Now there's an idea. . . maybe you could hook me up with one of those Desperate Housewives or Gossip Girls you get to hang out with . . .

Cholo wrote:BASILIO-ARAGON
The highly touted clash between Carmen Basilio, 155 1/2, and Art Aragon, 152, at wrigley Field, Los Angeles, lived up to its advance billing. Although one-sided in the hawk-faced Basilio's favor, Aragon's amazing display of raw courage was a real highlight of the fight. The famed Golden Boy took a frightful lacing for seven rounds, but stayed on his feet all the time, his tortured face twisting in pain each time Basilio's booming hooks bit into his flesh. One of Aragon's seconds threw in the towel during the eighth round as Art swayed helplessly against the ropes. Referee Tommy Hart, without ever seeing the surrender signal, stopped the one-sided bloodbath on his own volition at 1 minute 27 second mark. The gross receipts of $236,521 was an all time California record. There was no last minute price cutting of tickets as was the case for the Patterson-Harris bout held a few weeks before in the same city..

Chuck1052 wrote:As a fan who saw quite a few fights in Los Angeles during the 1970s and 1980s, I remember that the crowds favored Mexican-based fighters over the American-based fighters, even when the latter were natives of Mexico. If Art Aragon was based in Mexico, would he have received far less boos while fighting in Los Angeles during his career?

- Chuck Johnston

Randyman wrote:

Chuck1052 wrote:As a fan who saw quite a few fights in Los Angeles during the 1970s and 1980s, I remember that the crowds favored Mexican-based fighters over the American-based fighters, even when the latter were natives of Mexico. If Art Aragon was based in Mexico, would he have received far less boos while fighting in Los Angeles during his career?

- Chuck Johnston

A perceptive and accurate assessment Chuck, he probably would have been a lot more accepted. The fact that he knew and they knew, that he never would probably just added to the animosity. They never favored Oscar De La Hoya either no matter how hard he courted them. Yet, they were feverishly behind Rafeal Ruelas and Fernando Vargas, whom they considered "true Mexican" when they fought Oscar. Both Ruelas and Vargas lived in Southern California at the time, still do.

Randyman wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote: "Dancing with the Stars" material.

Now there's an idea. . . maybe you could hook me up with one of those Desperate Housewives or Gossip Girls you get to hang out with . . .

I hope your wife wasn't looking over your shoulders when you wrote that.

raylawpc wrote:

Randyman wrote:

raylawpc wrote: Now there's an idea. . . maybe you could hook me up with one of those Desperate Housewives or Gossip Girls you get to hang out with . . .

I hope your wife wasn't looking over your shoulders when you wrote that.

Well, I guess I didn't phrase that quite right . . . I meant hook me up with one of them to complete on "Dancing with the Stars," not hook me up for the kind of dancing my message may have implied.

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote: As smooth as silk Tom was.....

"Dancing with the Stars" material.

Now there's an idea. . . maybe you could hook me up with one of those Desperate Housewives or Gossip Girls you get to hang out with . . .

Rick Farris wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote: "Dancing with the Stars" material.

Now there's an idea. . . maybe you could hook me up with one of those Desperate Housewives or Gossip Girls you get to hang out with . . .

Tom . . . Haven't worked with the Housewives yet this year, but today on Gossip Girl, I worked with Elizabeth Hurley, and I must say this Brit is wothout question one of the most naturally beautiful women I have ever seen. She's a guest star in this episode. She'll work with us again on Wedensday. Maybe I'll ask if she feels like going a couple rounds on the dance floor with a tall, smooth, Swede?

Rick Farris wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote: "Dancing with the Stars" material.

Now there's an idea. . . maybe you could hook me up with one of those Desperate Housewives or Gossip Girls you get to hang out with . . .

Tom . . . Haven't worked with the Housewives yet this year, but today on Gossip Girl, I worked with Elizabeth Hurley, and I must say this Brit is wothout question one of the most naturally beautiful women I have ever seen. She's a guest star in this episode. She'll work with us again on Wedensday. Maybe I'll ask if she feels like going a couple rounds on the dance floor with a tall, smooth, Swede?

kikibalt wrote:

Sam Langford