Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Rick Farris wrote:
Bobbin & Weavin wrote:Okay...what's wrong with this picture, I spend all day everyday on construction sites babysitting grumpy, out of shape, dirty men as the drip sweat and spit sunflower seeds all over my jobsite
Disgruntled in NorCal
Bruce
I spend my day as one of those dirty, sweaty, grumpy workers. but i agree how is this fair?

disgruntled in Norway :lol:

Well at least we could have some good conversations; poor Rick is probably having a hard time finding anyone to talk boxing with or have a meaningful conversation with. :o
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Your right, Bruce, I's not all that great. Not one of those girls knows who Dwight Hawkins is. :witzend:[/quote]

Pardon me, but who gives a crap if they know who Dwight Hawkins is!?!
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Ricks got a point.
Eventually,ya gotta talk to em. :lol:
The best lookin girl in the world looks even better if they can talk boxing.
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Expug wrote:Ricks got a point.
Eventually,ya gotta talk to em. :lol:
The best lookin girl in the world looks even better if they can talk boxing.
I'm married - it's safer for me if I just look at them.
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Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Some of my co-workers.

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Yesterday we had about two dozen like this walking around the set in bikins all day.
We work about 16 hours a day, but it's not all bad.

-Rick Farris
I know....the girls, girls, girls, I would think a dime a dozen in Hollywood....
but that is one of those infinity pools that their sloshing around in. That view looks familiar too.
I'm willing to bet that pool is used in many movie shoots.I seen that scenario before, but cant exactly place a particular movie or show.

Like you explained before Rick, lighting is the most essential part of shots like these. Getting the girl to pose in a certain way can generate difficult shadows that must take hours to be ironed out. A long meaningful conversations with your subjects are in order so that they can understand the details of your job. Hence 16 hours...... or is it that they keep screwing up the three words that they must utter in the shoot. :lol: :lol:

PS: Thats a pretty big kite you guys are trying to fly by the side of the pool. :o
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CNorkusJr wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Some of my co-workers.

Image

Yesterday we had about two dozen like this walking around the set in bikins all day.
We work about 16 hours a day, but it's not all bad.

-Rick Farris
I know....the girls, girls, girls, I would think a dime a dozen in Hollywood....
but that is one of those infinity pools that their sloshing around in. That view looks familiar too.
I'm willing to bet that pool is used in many movie shoots.I seen that scenario before, but cant exactly place a particular movie or show.

Like you explained before Rick, lighting is the most essential part of shots like these. Getting the girl to pose in a certain way can generate difficult shadows that must take hours to be ironed out. A long meaningful conversations with your subjects are in order so that they can understand the details of your job. Hence 16 hours...... or is it that they keep screwing up the three words that they must utter in the shoot. :lol: :lol:

PS: Thats a pretty big kite you guys are trying to fly by the side of the pool. :o
A little trick that works wonders . . .

It doesn't take me much time to figure out how to light the women, and I don't have to tell them anything.
Some directors don't understand how to set up a shot, and they make lighting more of a challenge as well as the photography.
The good ones do so in a way that works better for everything.
I watch the rehersal, when they finish the key actors step off the set, their stand-ins step on to the set and we light them.
Then the actors return when we are finished. If necessary I might make a small adjustment when the actor is on her mark, and then they shoot.
If it's an actress I like, I will always recheck the light an pretend to make an adjustment, suggesting that I'm fine tuning it just for them.
But I never really change what I have already done correctly.
I'll tell one of my techs to tip the light down a little, then pan it to the right, then tip it back up a little, then a little left.
When I'm done, the light is right where it was in the beginning, but the actor doesn't know that, it makes them feel like I'd taken special care of them.
When I was single, the only time I'd talk to an actress about her light is if I was trying to seduce her.
They never question me about light (except Faye Dunaway who is crazy) and if they did I might answer if they were a major player, but most know they don't know anything about light values and keep their mouths shut. Barbara Streisand knows her light, but very few do.
I once had a small time actor who was very impressed with himself ask me how I planned to light him.
I just pointed over to a soft light fixture and said, "With that", and I walked away. That would be like me asking him, "how do you plan to play that scene?"
If it were Michael Landon, he might on occasion make a special request.
In one "Highway To Heaven" episode, Mike really liked the actress he'd cast in a role.
He came to me and told me to take my time and light her as I would for a feature. I never took more time or thought in lighting a scene.
The following year that episode won an Emmy for Best Cinematography. The Emmy went to our brilliant veteran cinematographer, Ted Voitlander.
But I received an Emmy Citation for my contribution to the award. That means as much to me as my CBHOF induction.
Most cameramen would take all the credit, but not Teddy, rest his soul. All of us who were hired by Landon were hired for a reason.
We were all artists in which he could trust, and he took care of us as such.
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Art "Golden Boy" Aragon/Sugar Ray Robinson 1956
The new California State Athletic Commission, in it's first official action, ruled against a proposed L.A. meeting between Sugar Ray Robinson, middleweight king, and Art (Golden Boy) Aragon. The reason given; disparity in weights. Henry Armstrong was permitted to meet Ceferino Garcia for the world middleweight title in 1940, and the weight differential was twice as much as there would be between Robinson and Aragon. When Armstrong and Garcia first met, in Madison Square Garden, back in 1938, the weights were Armstrong, 134; Garcia, 146 1/2. The public, not the Commission, should be the judge of what fights they want to see. If they like a scrap, they'll turn out; if they don't, they'll stay away in vast numbers. Aragon's last 36 fights, in Southern California, have grossed well over one million dollers; something like $1,091,000. That's an average of better then $30,000 per fight. This boy is magic at the box-office. If aging Robinson and glass-jawed Bobo Olson could draw $231,000 at Wrigley Field, as they did on May 18th, then Robinson against the colorful Aragon should gross anywhere from $350,000 to $500,000. Maybe more.
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kikibalt wrote:Some of my co-workers.

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Yesterday we had about two dozen like this walking around the set in bikins all day.
We work about 16 hours a day, but it's not all bad.

-Rick Farris
Awesome Rick, how do you manage to concentrate with all these beauties in bikinis, tough job.. :lol: :TU:
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Burbank Studios fire

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By Scott Harrison
August 3, 2011

Sept. 8, 1974: A movie set of fake brownstone structures burns on “Boston Street” at the Burbank Studios ranch. The set was a total loss. The multimillion-dollar fire destroyed three soundstages and four movie sets.

The Sunday morning fire occurred during a two-day community fair. Some of the rides, exhibition booths and several antique cars were destroyed. According to an Oct. 6, 1974, Times article, the cause was believed to be sparks from an electrical cord.

The site was formerly the Columbia Pictures ranch and became Burbank Studios after a merger of Columbia and Warner Bros.

This photo by retired Los Angeles Times staff photographer Boris Yaro was the lead image on Page 3 the next morning.

When Burbank Fire Department units arrived on the scene, according to Yaro, they first tried to hook up to hydrants that they quickly discovered were nonworking props. After the blaze, special markings were added to the real hydrants.
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kikibalt wrote:Burbank Studios fire

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By Scott Harrison
August 3, 2011

Sept. 8, 1974: A movie set of fake brownstone structures burns on “Boston Street” at the Burbank Studios ranch. The set was a total loss. The multimillion-dollar fire destroyed three soundstages and four movie sets.

The Sunday morning fire occurred during a two-day community fair. Some of the rides, exhibition booths and several antique cars were destroyed. According to an Oct. 6, 1974, Times article, the cause was believed to be sparks from an electrical cord.

The site was formerly the Columbia Pictures ranch and became Burbank Studios after a merger of Columbia and Warner Bros.

This photo by retired Los Angeles Times staff photographer Boris Yaro was the lead image on Page 3 the next morning.

When Burbank Fire Department units arrived on the scene, according to Yaro, they first tried to hook up to hydrants that they quickly discovered were nonworking props. After the blaze, special markings were added to the real hydrants.

The old "Columbia Ranch" lot is a few blocks from where I grew up.
Lots of old wood and flammable buildngs on studio lots. Many have been replaced over the years.
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Cholo wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Some of my co-workers.

Image

Yesterday we had about two dozen like this walking around the set in bikins all day.
We work about 16 hours a day, but it's not all bad.

-Rick Farris
Awesome Rick, how do you manage to concentrate with all these beauties in bikinis, tough job.. :lol: :TU:

Paul . . . We enjoy sets such as the above as they make up for all the times we are stuck out in the middle of nowwhere, often in extreme weather, with nothing more than a bunch of disgruntled crew member. It's like that saying goes . . .
"Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear eats you." :lol: Today we are in Griffith Park for the day, filming motorcycle stunts. Yesterday we were at the Long Beach Marina, filming on a $10 million yacht. Tomorrow we are back in Hollywood & Venice, which finishes our job. The production will then return to New York and their regular crew. This has been a nice one, mainly due to the good crew from here, a great TV director from NY, and a nice cast of professionals, and of course, lots of babes. :OhYes:
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[quote="Rick Farris=""]
kikibalt wrote:Some of my co-workers.

Image

Yesterday we had about two dozen like this walking around the set in bikins all day.
We work about 16 hours a day, but it's not all bad.

-Rick Farris
A little trick that works wonders . . .

It doesn't take me much time to figure out how to light the women, and I don't have to tell them anything.
Some directors don't understand how to set up a shot, and they make lighting more of a challenge as well as the photography.
The good ones do so in a way that works better for everything.
I watch the rehersal, when they finish the key actors step off the set, their stand-ins step on to the set and we light them.
Then the actors return when we are finished. If necessary I might make a small adjustment when the actor is on her mark, and then they shoot.
If it's an actress I like, I will always recheck the light an pretend to make an adjustment, suggesting that I'm fine tuning it just for them.
But I never really change what I have already done correctly.
I'll tell one of my techs to tip the light down a little, then pan it to the right, then tip it back up a little, then a little left.
When I'm done, the light is right where it was in the beginning, but the actor doesn't know that, it makes them feel like I'd taken special care of them.
When I was single, the only time I'd talk to an actress about her light is if I was trying to seduce her.
They never question me about light (except Faye Dunaway who is crazy) and if they did I might answer if they were a major player, but most know they don't know anything about light values and keep their mouths shut. Barbara Streisand knows her light, but very few do.
I once had a small time actor who was very impressed with himself ask me how I planned to light him.
I just pointed over to a soft light fixture and said, "With that", and I walked away. That would be like me asking him, "how do you plan to play that scene?"
If it were Michael Landon, he might on occasion make a special request.
In one "Highway To Heaven" episode, Mike really liked the actress he'd cast in a role.
He came to me and told me to take my time and light her as I would for a feature. I never took more time or thought in lighting a scene.
The following year that episode won an Emmy for Best Cinematography. The Emmy went to our brilliant veteran cinematographer, Ted Voitlander.
But I received an Emmy Citation for my contribution to the award. That means as much to me as my CBHOF induction.
Most cameramen would take all the credit, but not Teddy, rest his soul. All of us who were hired by Landon were hired for a reason.
We were all artists in which he could trust, and he took care of us as such.[/quote]

:TU: :TU: :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:Burbank Studios fire

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By Scott Harrison
August 3, 2011

Sept. 8, 1974: A movie set of fake brownstone structures burns on “Boston Street” at the Burbank Studios ranch. The set was a total loss. The multimillion-dollar fire destroyed three soundstages and four movie sets.

The Sunday morning fire occurred during a two-day community fair. Some of the rides, exhibition booths and several antique cars were destroyed. According to an Oct. 6, 1974, Times article, the cause was believed to be sparks from an electrical cord.

The site was formerly the Columbia Pictures ranch and became Burbank Studios after a merger of Columbia and Warner Bros.

This photo by retired Los Angeles Times staff photographer Boris Yaro was the lead image on Page 3 the next morning.

When Burbank Fire Department units arrived on the scene, according to Yaro, they first tried to hook up to hydrants that they quickly discovered were nonworking props. After the blaze, special markings were added to the real hydrants.
I wonder if Fire Chief Steve McQueen came riding in the chiefs car riding over on top of the fire hoses(a big no-no) at the scene of the fire like in "Towering Inferno". :lol: :lol:
I know its only a movie, but firefighters enjoy picking out the small stuff like that in movies when we watch them.

The "Third Watch" TV series,filmed in NY for a few seasons, was easily picked overall by firefighters as the best -realistic- fire series or movie that was made. Quite a few real NYC firefighters acted in the series in as background actors in the series including myself. Many achieved our SAG member cards playing firefighters in movies or TV shows.
One NYC firefighter married the actress Molly Price(police officer) from the series during one of the filming seasons.Needless to say-he got better roles in the show.

Back in the 1980's, a firefighter Dick Martenson from my firehouse, was also a part time actor in movies in NY. NY directors would hire up until then-background actors in NY and give them yellow rain slickers to play NY fireman in movies.
Dick went to the directors meeting and sold them on the idea that there are 100's of hams' out there who own their own NYC fire coats and helmets and if they want to add authenticity to the productions using real firefighters- hire real firefighters.
I was one of about 20 guys who got their SAG cards playing in movies and TV shows after that. The directors & producers got what they want and now a NYC laison team has been formed supplying consultant work for fire scenes to make it realistic,using real NYC fire(spare rigs) trucks and equipment in many movies.Same for NYC police too.

Quite few firefighters that appeared during the "Third Watch" series and in various other projects lost their lives at the 9-11 tragedy. I can still pick them out in the dozens of movies and TV shows that are in reruns.
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Expug wrote:Ricks got a point.
Eventually,ya gotta talk to em. :lol:
The best lookin girl in the world looks even better if they can talk boxing.
Brian, back in the early 80's I worked on the first season of ""Hotel". The late Anne Baxter was was inthe cast and she was a veteran Academy Award winner from years before. She was such a great lady and boxing fan, and also had been close with former champ Fidel LaBarba. On Monday following a big fight weekend, she'd discuss the fight with me. She'd tell me about her friendship with LaBoarba. I was the last to light her, she passed awayone weekend during the first season. I was really saddened by her death.
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Baby Arizmendi
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Mexican Joe Rivers, Tom McCarey and Baby Arizmendi
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kikibalt wrote:Image

Mexican Joe Rivers, Tom McCarey and Baby Arizmendi
frank, the picture just keep getting better and better. :bow: Great photo! :TU:
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Does anyone know if Freddie Roach is back in the "Wild Card" these days ?
I dont know if its a year round operation for him (of course unless he's on the road with a boxer of his) or not.
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CNorkusJr wrote:Does anyone know if Freddie Roach is back in the "Wild Card" these days ?
I dont know if its a year round operation for him (of course unless he's on the road with a boxer of his) or not.

Charlie, If he's not on the road with a fighter, he's there everyday. That's his life.
In the early days, before he was making the big money, that's where he slept.
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kikibalt wrote:Image

Baby Arizmendi
Frank, Great photos.. :TU:
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Cholo wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image

Baby Arizmendi
Frank, Great photos.. :TU:
Baby Arizmendi/Irish Jackie Carter August. 22, 1939
Baby Arizmendi turned "killer" in his clash with Irish Jackie Carter at the Olympic Auditorium, knocking the Washington D.C. kid stiff in the first round. Although the first hard right that floored Carter for nine really spelled his doom. Arizmendi had to drop the baby-faced Irishman four times to keep him down for the count. Arizmendi weighed 137 1/2, Carter 136.
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kikibalt wrote:Jack Dempsey

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Wow... Amazing pics...
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image

Mexican Joe Rivers, Tom McCarey and Baby Arizmendi
frank, the picture just keep getting better and better. :bow: Great photo! :TU:
Thanks Randy..
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Cholo wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image

Baby Arizmendi
Frank, Great photos.. :TU:
Thanks Paul...
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kikibalt wrote:Image

Mexican Joe Rivers, Tom McCarey and Baby Arizmendi
Tom McCarey got the ''crazy eyes'' fixed at Arizmendi it looks... not a look i would like to get from anyone :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:Image

Sam Langford

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truly great photos of Langford :box:
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