Classic American West Coast Boxing

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its recomended :TU: I might just watch it again tonight :box:
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kikibalt wrote:The movie below is for Greg. I think we all seen it before, not sure if Greg has seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH73i4pv8NQ

"The Ring" (1952)
>frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....
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coach greg v wrote:
kikibalt wrote:The movie below is for Greg. I think we all seen it before, not sure if Greg has seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH73i4pv8NQ

"The Ring" (1952)
>frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....
Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952... :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:
coach greg v wrote:
kikibalt wrote:The movie below is for Greg. I think we all seen it before, not sure if Greg has seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH73i4pv8NQ

"The Ring" (1952)
>frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....
Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952... :lol:
> :oo Wow no I said he looked like farris.Keeny was pretty talented and then I read where he had problems. Well it sure brought me back.....
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"Kid Galahad"

Kid Galahad (Elvis Presley) (L) vs Sugar Boy Romero (Ray De La Fuentes)

The De La Fuentes are friends of us here, by that I mean Rick, Randy and I. I go back with Ray and Orlando to the early '50's, met them at the Teamsters Gym.

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Orlando De La Fuentes

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Ray De La Fuentes

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Orlando De La Fuentes (L) and Elvis Presley on the set of Kid Galahad

I re-posted the above pictures being that it's the 34th anniversary of Elvis Presley' death...
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Orlando De La Fuentes and I...2008 CBHOF
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Orlando De La Fuentes and I...2008 CBHOF
> :OhYes: frank since you are interested in LA History . I suggest you check out THE GANGS OF LOS ANGELES BY WILLIAM DUNN. He is ex cop and knows the history of LA back to before the 20s. boxing Plays a part a part of the book as he discuss the rivalries of the past AND how popular boxing was back then....
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coach greg v wrote: > :OhYes: frank since you are interested in LA History . I suggest you check out THE GANGS OF LOS ANGELES BY WILLIAM DUNN. He is ex cop and knows the history of LA back to before the 20s. boxing Plays a part a part of the book as he discuss the rivalries of the past AND how popular boxing was back then....
There is no gang turf more desperately unique than that hidden among the 464 square miles which make up the City of Los Angeles. It is a fragile place; both tantalizing and repulsive, where wild fires can scorch hill-top celebrity homes as easily as gang members decimate a housing project with automatic rifle fire.

The Gangs of Los Angeles is a classic, real life account of American crime. From the early Tomato Gangs of 1890's Boyle Heights to the modern Crips and Mara Salvatrucha, with side trips through an Irish Dogtown, the gang wars of "Happy Valley", Sleepy Lagoon and the yellow journalism of the Hearst Press, and a tragic murder at Sunset and Vine, Dunn recounts the events and notorious denizens that spawned LA's gang subculture.
Happy Valley was once my stomping grounds, back in the late '40-early '50's.....I heard of the book but have never read it, don't know that I would want too, might find myself in it...... :lol: ...I might just buy it though.... :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:
coach greg v wrote: > :OhYes: frank since you are interested in LA History . I suggest you check out THE GANGS OF LOS ANGELES BY WILLIAM DUNN. He is ex cop and knows the history of LA back to before the 20s. boxing Plays a part a part of the book as he discuss the rivalries of the past AND how popular boxing was back then....
There is no gang turf more desperately unique than that hidden among the 464 square miles which make up the City of Los Angeles. It is a fragile place; both tantalizing and repulsive, where wild fires can scorch hill-top celebrity homes as easily as gang members decimate a housing project with automatic rifle fire.

The Gangs of Los Angeles is a classic, real life account of American crime. From the early Tomato Gangs of 1890's Boyle Heights to the modern Crips and Mara Salvatrucha, with side trips through an Irish Dogtown, the gang wars of "Happy Valley", Sleepy Lagoon and the yellow journalism of the Hearst Press, and a tragic murder at Sunset and Vine, Dunn recounts the events and notorious denizens that spawned LA's gang subculture.
Happy Valley was once my stomping grounds, back in the late '40-early '50's.....I heard of the book but have never read it, don't know that I would want too, might find myself in it...... :lol: ...I might just buy it though.... :TU:
> :TU: Well worth it frank well worth it
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coach greg v wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
coach greg v wrote: > :OhYes: frank since you are interested in LA History . I suggest you check out THE GANGS OF LOS ANGELES BY WILLIAM DUNN. He is ex cop and knows the history of LA back to before the 20s. boxing Plays a part a part of the book as he discuss the rivalries of the past AND how popular boxing was back then....
There is no gang turf more desperately unique than that hidden among the 464 square miles which make up the City of Los Angeles. It is a fragile place; both tantalizing and repulsive, where wild fires can scorch hill-top celebrity homes as easily as gang members decimate a housing project with automatic rifle fire.

The Gangs of Los Angeles is a classic, real life account of American crime. From the early Tomato Gangs of 1890's Boyle Heights to the modern Crips and Mara Salvatrucha, with side trips through an Irish Dogtown, the gang wars of "Happy Valley", Sleepy Lagoon and the yellow journalism of the Hearst Press, and a tragic murder at Sunset and Vine, Dunn recounts the events and notorious denizens that spawned LA's gang subculture.
Happy Valley was once my stomping grounds, back in the late '40-early '50's.....I heard of the book but have never read it, don't know that I would want too, might find myself in it...... :lol: ...I might just buy it though.... :TU:
> :TU: Well worth it frank well worth it
The thing is Greg, is that I lived that history, so don't know that there is going to be much there that I didn't see in my youth, but we'll see....
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White Fence, the rise of Maravilla gangs, the Happy Valley Gang Wars, Sleepy Lagoon, the Zoot Suit Riots, the rise of the Mexican Mafia, Brown Power.

I seen all this up front and personal .....
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kikibalt wrote:
coach greg v wrote:
kikibalt wrote: There is no gang turf more desperately unique than that hidden among the 464 square miles which make up the City of Los Angeles. It is a fragile place; both tantalizing and repulsive, where wild fires can scorch hill-top celebrity homes as easily as gang members decimate a housing project with automatic rifle fire.

The Gangs of Los Angeles is a classic, real life account of American crime. From the early Tomato Gangs of 1890's Boyle Heights to the modern Crips and Mara Salvatrucha, with side trips through an Irish Dogtown, the gang wars of "Happy Valley", Sleepy Lagoon and the yellow journalism of the Hearst Press, and a tragic murder at Sunset and Vine, Dunn recounts the events and notorious denizens that spawned LA's gang subculture.
Happy Valley was once my stomping grounds, back in the late '40-early '50's.....I heard of the book but have never read it, don't know that I would want too, might find myself in it...... :lol: ...I might just buy it though.... :TU:
> :TU: Well worth it frank well worth it
The thing is Greg, is that I lived that history, so don't know that there is going to be much there that I didn't see in my youth, but we'll see....
> :TU: Alot of stuff there about pancho villa, pachucos, irish,jewish I have what I consider a good library. that is the best book on the subject I have read it from cover to cover in one day. About 4 times altogether
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kikibalt wrote:Image

Orlando De La Fuentes and I...2008 CBHOF
Two of LA boxing's true class acts, from two of LA's classiest boxing families. :bow:
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kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image
1968 Jr. Golden Gloves Finals . . .

We were just kids, but you'll recognize a few of the names . . . Baltazar, Davila, Muniz, Robles, Cerda, Morgan and Farris, to name a few.
I stopped Jerry Moore's boxer in the 2nd round with a body punch to win my division.
Rudy "Porky" Acuna, '41 pounder in the above program is now a mailman in my 'hood. Porky is also The Maravilla Kid's, A.K.A Ruben Navarro nephew.
Rudy and I were team mates in the '69 Golden Gloves Nationals and the AAU NAtionals. Good guy!
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kikibalt wrote:
coach greg v wrote:
kikibalt wrote:The movie below is for Greg. I think we all seen it before, not sure if Greg has seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH73i4pv8NQ

"The Ring" (1952)
>frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....
Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952... :lol:
> :TU: thank you agin frank I just added it to my dvd collection. Rick I was at the 1969 Golden Gloves not as a fighter that is why I probably remember I saw you before.
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coach greg v wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
coach greg v wrote: >frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....
Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952... :lol:
> :TU: thank you agin frank I just added it to my dvd collection. Rick I was at the 1969 Golden Gloves not as a fighter that is why I probably remember I saw you before.
> :oops: I Know I am not LIke you guys from Hollywood. I had a bit part in FAT CITY and the ALL AMERICAN BOY. I was there when clint eastwood trained up here for EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE. I know rick farris works for the movies because somebody looked him up on IMDB. I was in 2 other films AMERICAN GRAFFITTI AND GO ASK ALICE. However being near hollywood you guys must of been in hella movies....
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Rick, can you put some names on this guys, I know most of them, but I am too tired to do it.

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IBF orders Agbeko-Mares rematch
from Fight News

IBF President Daryl Peoples and IBF Championships Chairman Lindsey Tucker completed their review of the IBF Optional Bantamweight Championship bout that took place on August 13, 2011 in Las Vegas, NV, between Joseph Agbeko and Abner Mares. Peoples and Tucker observed several low blow fouls committed by Abner Mares. While the referee, Russell Mora, issued numerous warnings for low blows during the course of the bout, he neglected to deduct points for these fouls. With 1:03 left in round eleven, Joseph Agbeko was hit with a low blow foul that forced him to the canvas. Mr. Mora determined that the blow landed by Mares was legal and began to count indicating that a knockdown had occurred.

Based upon their review of the bout, it has been determined by the IBF that inappropriate conduct by the referee affected the outcome of the fight. In accordance with IBF/USBA Rule 3.D., the IBF is ordering a rematch between Joseph Agbeko and Abner Mares for the IBF Bantamweight title which must be held within the next 120 days or by December 14, 2011.
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kikibalt wrote:Rick, can you put some names on this guys, I know most of them, but I am too tired to do it.

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> :o ricky did somewhere on this blog identify these guys.....but ill bet a big manny i can not find it...
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coach greg v wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Rick, can you put some names on this guys, I know most of them, but I am too tired to do it.

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(Top row, L-R) Pete Desparte, ?, Mike Quarry, Mike's trainer?, Bobby Torrance, James Dick, Jake Horn, Al Boursse', Manny Diaz, Memo Soto.
(Kneeling L-R) Ernie DeFrance, Pete Vital Sr., Pete Vital Jr., Florentino Ramirez, Rudy "Porky" Acuna, Rick Farris, Tommy Coulson, Henry Verastique.
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Rick Farris wrote:
coach greg v wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Rick, can you put some names on this guys, I know most of them, but I am too tired to do it.

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(Top row, L-R) Pete Desparte, ?, Mike Quarry, Mike's trainer?, Bobby Torrance, James Dick, Jake Horn, Al Boursse', Manny Diaz, Memo Soto.
(Kneeling L-R) Ernie DeFrance, Pete Vital Sr., Pete Vital Jr., Florentino Ramirez, Rudy "Porky" Acuna, Rick Farris, Tommy Coulson, Henry Verastique.
>that is mike quarry I met him in 1969
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coach greg v wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
coach greg v wrote: >frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....
Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952... :lol:
> :TU: thank you agin frank I just added it to my dvd collection. Rick I was at the 1969 Golden Gloves not as a fighter that is why I probably remember I saw you before.
'69 Western Region G.G.'s finals . . . Santa Monica Civic Auditorium 2/69
'69 National Golden Gloves Tournament of Champions . . . Kansas City, Mo. 3/69
'69 Southern Pacific A.A.U. Championships . . . El Monte Legion Stadium, 4/69
'69 National A.A.U. Championships . . . San Diego, Cal. 4/69
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Rick Farris wrote:
coach greg v wrote:
kikibalt wrote: Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952... :lol:
> :TU: thank you agin frank I just added it to my dvd collection. Rick I was at the 1969 Golden Gloves not as a fighter that is why I probably remember I saw you before.
'69 Western Region G.G.'s finals . . . Santa Monica Civic Auditorium 2/69
'69 National Golden Gloves Tournament of Champions . . . Kansas City, Mo. 3/69
'69 Southern Pacific A.A.U. Championships . . . El Monte Legion Stadium, 4/69
'69 National A.A.U. National Championships . . . San Diego, Cal. 4/69
>ricky i was at 3 of those shows thank you for your effort :TU:
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My 85-year-young uncle hit a 3 wood in the 8th hole for an Ace at Cassville Golf Club last Saturday! It's his 5th career hole-in-one. He's a remarkable guy! I just hope I'm still able to attain a vertical posture when I'm 85 . . .
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raylawpc wrote:My 85-year-young uncle hit a 3 wood in the 8th hole for an Ace at Cassville Golf Club last Saturday! It's his 5th career hole-in-one. He's a remarkable guy! I just hope I'm still able to attain a vertical posture when I'm 85 . . .
>con grads to your uncle. why did u remove ur post about o'grady
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