Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 16 Aug 2011, 15:55
its recomended
I might just watch it again tonight 
>frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....kikibalt wrote:The movie below is for Greg. I think we all seen it before, not sure if Greg has seen it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH73i4pv8NQ
"The Ring" (1952)
Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952...coach greg v wrote:>frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....kikibalt wrote:The movie below is for Greg. I think we all seen it before, not sure if Greg has seen it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH73i4pv8NQ
"The Ring" (1952)
>kikibalt wrote:Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952...coach greg v wrote:>frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....kikibalt wrote:The movie below is for Greg. I think we all seen it before, not sure if Greg has seen it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH73i4pv8NQ
"The Ring" (1952)





>kikibalt wrote:
Orlando De La Fuentes and I...2008 CBHOF
There is no gang turf more desperately unique than that hidden among the 464 square miles which make up the City of Los Angeles. It is a fragile place; both tantalizing and repulsive, where wild fires can scorch hill-top celebrity homes as easily as gang members decimate a housing project with automatic rifle fire.coach greg v wrote: >frank since you are interested in LA History . I suggest you check out THE GANGS OF LOS ANGELES BY WILLIAM DUNN. He is ex cop and knows the history of LA back to before the 20s. boxing Plays a part a part of the book as he discuss the rivalries of the past AND how popular boxing was back then....
>kikibalt wrote:There is no gang turf more desperately unique than that hidden among the 464 square miles which make up the City of Los Angeles. It is a fragile place; both tantalizing and repulsive, where wild fires can scorch hill-top celebrity homes as easily as gang members decimate a housing project with automatic rifle fire.coach greg v wrote: >frank since you are interested in LA History . I suggest you check out THE GANGS OF LOS ANGELES BY WILLIAM DUNN. He is ex cop and knows the history of LA back to before the 20s. boxing Plays a part a part of the book as he discuss the rivalries of the past AND how popular boxing was back then....
The Gangs of Los Angeles is a classic, real life account of American crime. From the early Tomato Gangs of 1890's Boyle Heights to the modern Crips and Mara Salvatrucha, with side trips through an Irish Dogtown, the gang wars of "Happy Valley", Sleepy Lagoon and the yellow journalism of the Hearst Press, and a tragic murder at Sunset and Vine, Dunn recounts the events and notorious denizens that spawned LA's gang subculture.
Happy Valley was once my stomping grounds, back in the late '40-early '50's.....I heard of the book but have never read it, don't know that I would want too, might find myself in it.........I might just buy it though....
The thing is Greg, is that I lived that history, so don't know that there is going to be much there that I didn't see in my youth, but we'll see....coach greg v wrote:>kikibalt wrote:There is no gang turf more desperately unique than that hidden among the 464 square miles which make up the City of Los Angeles. It is a fragile place; both tantalizing and repulsive, where wild fires can scorch hill-top celebrity homes as easily as gang members decimate a housing project with automatic rifle fire.coach greg v wrote: >frank since you are interested in LA History . I suggest you check out THE GANGS OF LOS ANGELES BY WILLIAM DUNN. He is ex cop and knows the history of LA back to before the 20s. boxing Plays a part a part of the book as he discuss the rivalries of the past AND how popular boxing was back then....
The Gangs of Los Angeles is a classic, real life account of American crime. From the early Tomato Gangs of 1890's Boyle Heights to the modern Crips and Mara Salvatrucha, with side trips through an Irish Dogtown, the gang wars of "Happy Valley", Sleepy Lagoon and the yellow journalism of the Hearst Press, and a tragic murder at Sunset and Vine, Dunn recounts the events and notorious denizens that spawned LA's gang subculture.
Happy Valley was once my stomping grounds, back in the late '40-early '50's.....I heard of the book but have never read it, don't know that I would want too, might find myself in it.........I might just buy it though....
Well worth it frank well worth it
>kikibalt wrote:The thing is Greg, is that I lived that history, so don't know that there is going to be much there that I didn't see in my youth, but we'll see....coach greg v wrote:>kikibalt wrote: There is no gang turf more desperately unique than that hidden among the 464 square miles which make up the City of Los Angeles. It is a fragile place; both tantalizing and repulsive, where wild fires can scorch hill-top celebrity homes as easily as gang members decimate a housing project with automatic rifle fire.
The Gangs of Los Angeles is a classic, real life account of American crime. From the early Tomato Gangs of 1890's Boyle Heights to the modern Crips and Mara Salvatrucha, with side trips through an Irish Dogtown, the gang wars of "Happy Valley", Sleepy Lagoon and the yellow journalism of the Hearst Press, and a tragic murder at Sunset and Vine, Dunn recounts the events and notorious denizens that spawned LA's gang subculture.
Happy Valley was once my stomping grounds, back in the late '40-early '50's.....I heard of the book but have never read it, don't know that I would want too, might find myself in it.........I might just buy it though....
Well worth it frank well worth it
Two of LA boxing's true class acts, from two of LA's classiest boxing families.kikibalt wrote:
Orlando De La Fuentes and I...2008 CBHOF
Rudy and I were team mates in the '69 Golden Gloves Nationals and the AAU NAtionals. Good guy!kikibalt wrote:Rudy "Porky" Acuna, '41 pounder in the above program is now a mailman in my 'hood. Porky is also The Maravilla Kid's, A.K.A Ruben Navarro nephew.Rick Farris wrote:1968 Jr. Golden Gloves Finals . . .kikibalt wrote:
We were just kids, but you'll recognize a few of the names . . . Baltazar, Davila, Muniz, Robles, Cerda, Morgan and Farris, to name a few.
I stopped Jerry Moore's boxer in the 2nd round with a body punch to win my division.
>kikibalt wrote:Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952...coach greg v wrote:>frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....kikibalt wrote:The movie below is for Greg. I think we all seen it before, not sure if Greg has seen it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH73i4pv8NQ
"The Ring" (1952)
>coach greg v wrote:>kikibalt wrote:Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952...coach greg v wrote: >frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....thank you agin frank I just added it to my dvd collection. Rick I was at the 1969 Golden Gloves not as a fighter that is why I probably remember I saw you before.

>kikibalt wrote:Rick, can you put some names on this guys, I know most of them, but I am too tired to do it.
(Top row, L-R) Pete Desparte, ?, Mike Quarry, Mike's trainer?, Bobby Torrance, James Dick, Jake Horn, Al Boursse', Manny Diaz, Memo Soto.coach greg v wrote:kikibalt wrote:Rick, can you put some names on this guys, I know most of them, but I am too tired to do it.
>that is mike quarry I met him in 1969Rick Farris wrote:(Top row, L-R) Pete Desparte, ?, Mike Quarry, Mike's trainer?, Bobby Torrance, James Dick, Jake Horn, Al Boursse', Manny Diaz, Memo Soto.coach greg v wrote:kikibalt wrote:Rick, can you put some names on this guys, I know most of them, but I am too tired to do it.
(Kneeling L-R) Ernie DeFrance, Pete Vital Sr., Pete Vital Jr., Florentino Ramirez, Rudy "Porky" Acuna, Rick Farris, Tommy Coulson, Henry Verastique.
'69 Western Region G.G.'s finals . . . Santa Monica Civic Auditorium 2/69coach greg v wrote:>kikibalt wrote:Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952...coach greg v wrote: >frank this is one of the better fight movies I have seen. the prejudice is totally typical and shown realisticly and the gym scenes are top. I even saw a kid that looked like farris in it. Its hard to believe for some people that we all used brycreem in those days and the cholos did not necessarily use tres flores and nets. While a latino version of golden boy just seeing some of those old faces were worth it. totally took me back.when I started boxing at the local boys club in 1958. Nobody really coached me. there was a coach but he did not pay attention to me. On the 4th day at the gym. Mind you i am 8 yrs old and getting pummeled. This Big latino boxer with a pompadour comes over to me and says come here whetto. He tells me all he wants me to do the next round is hold my gloves up in boxing stance to not throw one punch. Now I am getting hit everywhere but its not hurting from that point on my boxing training began. I would have probably left after awhile. Rick Farris said when he was younger he wanted to be mexican. I know the feeling. After that I knew I would not leave and this boxer saw me come everyday and he showed me something new until some one finally saw I needed some training. This movie took me back to that time. My deep thanks to frank for posting it for me.....thank you agin frank I just added it to my dvd collection. Rick I was at the 1969 Golden Gloves not as a fighter that is why I probably remember I saw you before.
>ricky i was at 3 of those shows thank you for your effortRick Farris wrote:'69 Western Region G.G.'s finals . . . Santa Monica Civic Auditorium 2/69coach greg v wrote:>kikibalt wrote: Greg, I was at the Teamsters Gym all the time that the gym scenes were shot, I was hanging around with my friend Keeny Teran who you see on the gym floor and also sparring in the movie, and no, you didn't see Rick in the movie. I think Rick was born in 1952...thank you agin frank I just added it to my dvd collection. Rick I was at the 1969 Golden Gloves not as a fighter that is why I probably remember I saw you before.
'69 National Golden Gloves Tournament of Champions . . . Kansas City, Mo. 3/69
'69 Southern Pacific A.A.U. Championships . . . El Monte Legion Stadium, 4/69
'69 National A.A.U. National Championships . . . San Diego, Cal. 4/69
>con grads to your uncle. why did u remove ur post about o'gradyraylawpc wrote:My 85-year-young uncle hit a 3 wood in the 8th hole for an Ace at Cassville Golf Club last Saturday! It's his 5th career hole-in-one. He's a remarkable guy! I just hope I'm still able to attain a vertical posture when I'm 85 . . .