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Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:15
by jamesmcdonnell
stufm wrote: 04 May 2018, 10:36
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 May 2018, 10:25
Controversial wrote: 04 May 2018, 08:01 Was there any reason why Bellew didn't insist on fighting in Liverpool for the rematch?
ECHO Arena is the biggest in Liverpool.. It holds 9,000..

London is better..

Only the Manchester Arena has a higher capacity (by 1,000) than O2 Arena.
I bet they could have sold out Goodison Park if it was in the summer.
bellew simply isnt that big a ticket seller.

hayes crowd are all london and southeast and wont travel to liverpool.

this fight is garbage, neither man is s force at heavyweight. haye is well past it and bellew wouldnt stand a chance against wilder or joshua he would be annihilated.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:16
by jamesmcdonnell
samwbr wrote: 04 May 2018, 10:48
stufm wrote: 04 May 2018, 10:36
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 May 2018, 10:25

ECHO Arena is the biggest in Liverpool.. It holds 9,000..

London is better..

Only the Manchester Arena has a higher capacity (by 1,000) than O2 Arena.
I bet they could have sold out Goodison Park if it was in the summer.
He didn't fill Goodison for a world title fight.
precisely, hes nowhere near as big a draw as Haye.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:17
by oogiebe
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 04 May 2018, 12:16
samwbr wrote: 04 May 2018, 10:48
stufm wrote: 04 May 2018, 10:36

I bet they could have sold out Goodison Park if it was in the summer.
He didn't fill Goodison for a world title fight.
precisely, hes nowhere near as big a draw as Haye.
Yup, yup, and yup.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:33
by lillywhite14
Bellew is a bit of a prick.

He’s the type of scouser that gives them all a bad name. Gobby and entitled martyr.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:36
by oogiebe
lillywhite14 wrote: 04 May 2018, 12:33 Bellew is a bit of a prick.

He’s the type of scouser that gives them all a bad name. Gobby and entitled martyr.
aaaaannnnddddd...Yup!

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:38
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: 04 May 2018, 12:36
lillywhite14 wrote: 04 May 2018, 12:33 Bellew is a bit of a prick.

He’s the type of scouser that gives them all a bad name. Gobby and entitled martyr.
aaaaannnnddddd...Yup!
Image

He's just fat!

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:39
by jamamb
how does bellew look so soft yet have such definition at the hips

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:39
by oogiebe
Haye By the 11th.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:41
by Ruthless-RKO
jamamb wrote: 04 May 2018, 12:39 how does bellew look so soft yet have such definition at the hips
That's what I always thought.. He's not toned/chiseled or anything. Yet has shape on the hips.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:42
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 May 2018, 12:41
jamamb wrote: 04 May 2018, 12:39 how does bellew look so soft yet have such definition at the hips
That's what I always thought.. He's not toned/chiseled or anything. Yet has shape on the hips.
Ripples of fat and a sharpie.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 12:43
by Boxerbeetle
samwbr wrote: 04 May 2018, 10:48
stufm wrote: 04 May 2018, 10:36
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 May 2018, 10:25

ECHO Arena is the biggest in Liverpool.. It holds 9,000..

London is better..

Only the Manchester Arena has a higher capacity (by 1,000) than O2 Arena.
I bet they could have sold out Goodison Park if it was in the summer.
He didn't fill Goodison for a world title fight.
To be fair, wasn’t that fight put together really quickly? I’m sure the tickets were only actually on sale for a week or two?

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:00
by geronimo
jamamb wrote: 04 May 2018, 08:50
geronimo wrote: 04 May 2018, 08:46
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 04 May 2018, 07:53

Stop being ridiculous. A broken hand is nowhere near as debilitating as a ruptured achilles, fighters fight one with broken hands all the time.

Next.
The only that is ridicolous is you. Did i have compare the two things?
well if you think ppl are being unobjective by mentioning one but not the other youve obviously compared those injuries and thought that it must be bias that results in one being mentioned more then the other, rather then ppl looking at each case and seeing that hayes is actually much worse

if you havent compared the injuries why the hell even post that ppl arent being objective because they mention hayes more?

perhaps you should make a fair comparison and then youll see why hayes is thought of as a much bigger deal
I'm just saying that for an objective analysis, we must consider also the Bellew injuri, because It has influenced the match.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:07
by oogiebe
A broken had (depending on the break) will go numb and afford the fighter some use. An Achilles tendon goes and you are dead in the water. Many describe it as being hit from behind on the ankle, but when they look, no one is there. I suggest those who doubt this to cut their Achilles tendon and try to walk or stand. Haye has to be a tough SOB to continue after such an injury.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:18
by SAPFO
oogiebe wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:07 A broken had (depending on the break) will go numb and afford the fighter some use. An Achilles tendon goes and you are dead in the water. Many describe it as being hit from behind on the ankle, but when they look, no one is there. I suggest those who doubt this to cut their Achilles tendon and try to walk or stand. Haye has to be a tough SOB to continue after such an injury.
You were listening to the commentary on lasts nights Arsenal game weren’t you? 😀

Did you see how in pain that arsenal player was? To think Haye carried on.........


Anyway, Haye at 220lbs don’t fill me with confidence at all

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:20
by oogiebe
SAPFO wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:18
oogiebe wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:07 A broken had (depending on the break) will go numb and afford the fighter some use. An Achilles tendon goes and you are dead in the water. Many describe it as being hit from behind on the ankle, but when they look, no one is there. I suggest those who doubt this to cut their Achilles tendon and try to walk or stand. Haye has to be a tough SOB to continue after such an injury.
You were listening to the commentary on lasts nights Arsenal game weren’t you? 😀

Did you see how in pain that arsenal player was? To think Haye carried on.........


Anyway, Haye at 220lbs don’t fill me with confidence at all
I wasn't, but I imagine it was related. I was thinking about Vinny Testaverde, and American Football player who QB'd the Jets and decribed his Achilles heel injury.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:20
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:07 A broken had (depending on the break) will go numb and afford the fighter some use. An Achilles tendon goes and you are dead in the water. Many describe it as being hit from behind on the ankle, but when they look, no one is there. I suggest those who doubt this to cut their Achilles tendon and try to walk or stand. Haye has to be a tough SOB to continue after such an injury.
It was bad. He couldn't stand or use his leg to put power behind his punches. Those swings were just literally swings.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:21
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:20
oogiebe wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:07 A broken had (depending on the break) will go numb and afford the fighter some use. An Achilles tendon goes and you are dead in the water. Many describe it as being hit from behind on the ankle, but when they look, no one is there. I suggest those who doubt this to cut their Achilles tendon and try to walk or stand. Haye has to be a tough SOB to continue after such an injury.
It was bad. He couldn't stand or use his leg to put power behind his punches. Those swings were just literally swings.
Make no doubt I agree with you 100%!

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:31
by jamesmcdonnell
a fighter with a ruptured achilles is ...pardon the pun, totally hamstrung. no ability to pivot on that foot and no power in any shots.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:33
by TheGman
Does anyone know if anywere on hwy27 that will be having this on?

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:34
by Counter-puncher
Did Bellew really break a hand or just say he did after the fight? I just thought he was playing 'I was injured too' Top Trumps

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:36
by Ruthless-RKO
Counter-puncher wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:34 Did Bellew really break a hand or just say he did after the fight? I just thought he was playing 'I was injured too' Top Trumps
Probably.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:36
by oogiebe
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:31 a fighter with a ruptured achilles is ...pardon the pun, totally hamstrung. no ability to pivot on that foot and no power in any shots.
Can't make the pardon because I'm laughing hysterically on that!!!!! Too good! :clap: :TU:

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:41
by lillywhite14
Counter-puncher wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:34 Did Bellew really break a hand or just say he did after the fight? I just thought he was playing 'I was injured too' Top Trumps
Strikes me as the type 100%

Remember doe, you’ll have to kill him to stop him ( Stevenson aside of course )

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:44
by TheGman
lillywhite14 wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:41
Counter-puncher wrote: 04 May 2018, 13:34 Did Bellew really break a hand or just say he did after the fight? I just thought he was playing 'I was injured too' Top Trumps
Strikes me as the type 100%

Remember doe, you’ll have to kill him to stop him ( Stevenson aside of course )
I just hope david haye takes him home safe to his wife and kids after the fight

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye II - 5 May 2018

Posted: 04 May 2018, 13:49
by SAPFO
To be fair to Bellew he was dry as a bone vs Stevenson IIRC. Let’s see how he takes a Hayemaker fully hydrated.