Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 29 Jul 2019, 16:05
by Autobarn
I just don’t know what to think.
If Whyte really arly did take PEDs, he’s brought a huge amount of fallout on himself, his promoter, UK boxing, etc. Until we find out the verdict of his B sample, he will have lost all of his momentum from all of those tough fights. He won’t get his mandatory world title shot any time soon. His promoter and the BBBoC are taking huge flak for letting the Rivas fight happen. And suddenly no one wants to defend their world title over here and are using this controversy as a convenient excuse. He could end up a very unpopular person.
I do like his boxing and fighting. I hope he is clean. I actually wonder what his options are, can he fight for example in Germany for European titles or in America on competitive TV fights?
For the conspiracy nuts - why do Wilder’s tough mandatories all keep testing positive? Why does Whyte “get caught” just after denouncing Joshua’s medical exceptions (ie Dr prescribing due to asthma, small dick, etc).
Finally - B sample: when? That’s the burning question. Could it be a RJJ-Richard Hall all over again? B samples can come back negative, as was the case with both Jones and Hall?
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 29 Jul 2019, 16:42
by TheLeprechaun
The gloves and the positive drug test both give major damage to whytes reputation and credibility moving forward if they botb turn out to be true. He shouldn't be rewarded with a title shot or any PPV for this kind of conduct if these things are fully proven. Anyone paying 20 quid for the fight was a mug anyway.
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 29 Jul 2019, 16:45
by margaret thatcher
Probably not but weve repeatedly seen guys fail yet then get shots--fury, ortiz, pov, stiverne, hughie
Basically, ppl get pissed off in the short term but these hws keep failing yet then going right back at it
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 29 Jul 2019, 16:48
by TheLeprechaun
Joshua could use him as a comeback fight if he gets done by ruiz. I don't see wilder or ruiz giving him a voluntary shot and if they do, whyte will be taking orders pre fight in terms of what gloves he can wear and drug tests he has to take. Promoters for wilder or ruiz will take liberties, including with the financials. Whyte will know all about what it means to be the B side of a promotion.
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 29 Jul 2019, 16:48
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 16:45
Probably not but weve repeatedly seen guys fail yet then get shots--fury, ortiz, pov, stiverne, hughie
Basically, ppl get pissed off in the short term but these hws keep failing yet then going right back at it
This was just a case where Dill has done so much to get a shot and to take a chance like he allegedly did is unconscionable. (I.E. Stupid)
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 29 Jul 2019, 19:54
by Ruthless-RKO
How often are B samples ever different to A samples?
Hearn and co are probably there now tryna doctor some results
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 29 Jul 2019, 22:06
by Nightmare Roy
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 19:54
How often are B samples ever different to A samples?
Hearn and co are probably there now tryna doctor some results
Listening to a pod last night and they said about 10% of the time
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 01:16
by JimStone
Why are people still talking about the B Sample? Is it not the case that opting for the hearing was Dillian's opportunity to explain why the particular metabolites were present? Therefore no need for the B Sample to be tested?
As I understand it the testing agencies only test the B Sample if the sports person requests it.
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 07:14
by keirw
So let me get this straight, because I can be a bit slow at times:
UKAD 'allegedly' found traces of an anabolic steroid in Whyte's urine.
Whyte then disputed the findings and UKAD and BBBC held a hearing on the day of the fight to give Whyte a chance to defend himself.
At the hearing Whyte seems to have cleared himself of wrongdoing using evedence provided by VADA (??!)
BBBC decided to let the fight go ahead but due to UKADs rules no one was allowed to tell Rivas or the WBC (??!)
Thomas Hauser received a tip off about it, which he then followed up on. He subsequently wrote an article on boxing scene detailing what he found out.
Hearn has given some vague explanations that seem to clear him from any legal wrong doings (morals are a different story, obviously).
Whyte has kept uncharacteristically quite due to 'legal reasons', not sure if he is sueing someone or is expecting to be sued himself though (??!)
Rivas has been accused of also failing a UKAD test, but the accuser is a friend of Whyte and a bit of a big mouth, so no one really takes him seriously.
WBC, VADA, UKAD and BBBC are all now seemingly waiting of something (not sure exactly what) to happen before they decide what to do next.
Rival fighters and promoters are sticking the boot in, while Sky are scared to mention it as there would be reasonable demands for refunds if he is found guilty.
Have I missed anything?
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 09:17
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 09:23
by kbackup408
keirw wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 07:14
So let me get this straight, because I can be a bit slow at times:
UKAD 'allegedly' found traces of an anabolic steroid in Whyte's urine.
Whyte then disputed the findings and UKAD and BBBC held a hearing on the day of the fight to give Whyte a chance to defend himself.
At the hearing Whyte seems to have cleared himself of wrongdoing using evedence provided by VADA (??!)
BBBC decided to let the fight go ahead but due to UKADs rules no one was allowed to tell Rivas or the WBC (??!)
Thomas Hauser received a tip off about it, which he then followed up on. He subsequently wrote an article on boxing scene detailing what he found out.
Hearn has given some vague explanations that seem to clear him from any legal wrong doings (morals are a different story, obviously).
Whyte has kept uncharacteristically quite due to 'legal reasons', not sure if he is sueing someone or is expecting to be sued himself though (??!)
Rivas has been accused of also failing a UKAD test, but the accuser is a friend of Whyte and a bit of a big mouth, so no one really takes him seriously.
WBC, VADA, UKAD and BBBC are all now seemingly waiting of something (not sure exactly what) to happen before they decide what to do next.
Rival fighters and promoters are sticking the boot in, while Sky are scared to mention it as there would be reasonable demands for refunds if he is found guilty.
Have I missed anything?
^ you have got that down to a T, this is one messy situation similar to the Fury-UKAD saga don't expect an outcome till late Sept/Oct
In the interim (the irony lol) Whyte will fight one more time in 2019 because this is how our beautiful sport operates in the United Kingdom!
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 09:32
by Boxerbeetle
Have Sky Sports News still not even mentioned the story yet? Absolute fvcking sh!thouses if not.
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 10:03
by kbackup408
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 09:32
Have Sky Sports News still not even mentioned the story yet? Absolute fvcking sh!thouses if not.
not an ounce of coverage!
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 10:20
by jizzle
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 14:05
Is it just me or is Spencer kinda a frilly name anyway??
Underrated post
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 10:43
by Exoddus
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 09:32
Have Sky Sports News still not even mentioned the story yet? Absolute fvcking sh!thouses if not.
Nothing because they don't want thousands of people keep phoning up asking for refunds. They want their phones lines clear for zaps ready to hand them over £60 a month.
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 12:14
by margaret thatcher
Wonder why BT removed that clip of Warren saying he knows that BBBC was against the fight
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 12:16
by Coco
I think it was an interview with FW about the news about all of his fighters, and then he talked about the Whyte situation in that while it may be possible to legally justify their actions, they were both morally and ethically unacceptable
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 13:38
by Nondescript
Coco wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 12:16
I think it was an interview with FW about the news about all of his fighters, and then he talked about the Whyte situation in that while it may be possible to legally justify their actions, they were both morally and ethically unacceptable
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 16:14
by craigjenkins05
Just saw whyte has been provisionally suspended by the WBC due to the UKAD adverse test result
Re: Dillian Whyte Tests Positive For Banned Substance
Posted: 30 Jul 2019, 16:21
by oogiebe
craigjenkins05 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 16:14
Just saw whyte has been provisionally suspended by the WBC due to the UKAD adverse test result
Wow! You got a link? Source? Couldn't find anything.
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