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tbf to pov, that was a ff@cking nice combo, left jab, dip, left uppercut. not many hws around who you see pull that off at top level lately

It really depends on your standards for world class, Whyte easily coulda been rated top 5 in the world going into this, he'll still be top 10

Povetkin was winning Olympic medals before Whyte had even laced up a glove.

Loved that combo. I felt Povetkin was losing of course but also he was setting up the left often but missing. Timed it perfect for the finish. Actually looked effortless, he was shocked I think.

Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 20:06 Have a rematch, it'll only delay the mandatory

Eddie over played his hand and ended up with a high card

Unless the rematch delays the mandatory enough for AJ vs fury for all the belts to happen. in witch case he has a royal flush...

Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑22 Aug 2020, 20:06 Have a rematch, it'll only delay the mandatory

Eddie over played his hand and ended up with a high card

Got to be a rematch.

Not seen the full fight yet but I wasn’t all that surprised by the ending. Povetkin is still game. From what I’ve read though it came against the run of play, though it always felt an unnecessary risk given where he was.

Pov looked what he is ,, an old man with skills who has slowed down , and was / is well past his best ,,, BUT Whyte showed what he is , a british , / European level boxer , who has had a well managed carreer , with Eddies backing , also a guy who really did /does believe his own publicity and worth ,, a guy who was lucky to scrape through on numerous occasions against european level competition ,,, A guy who refused a title fight whilst at the same time complaining he's not got one , basicly Whyte is a product of u tube tv created by Eddie Hearn , and his mate Kugan , a guy who has been found out .

He was found out because he was set up for a peach of a punch , that is just a basic text book punch , something all top ameteurs use all the time , the set up , the delivery was perfect , and the reason Whyte did'nt see it coming or being set up , is because he's been fed opposition that suit his style , swingers and brawlers , , this was not a lucky win , this was a smart boxer , who was'nt hurt , knocked down but not hurt ,

Whyte just got beat by a over the hill old man , who's speed has left him , who had to rely on boxing skills to win and set up the winning punch , and still done it relativly easy ,, To me Pov had took whytes best shots and was playing the long game , waiting for Whyte to tire and slow down ,,, Look at Whytes condition , really he was just as flabby has his 40 year old opponent and thats after a supposadly great training camp , .

Whyte was caught with that punch so easy , it would suggest he had not trained to avoid it , which really when fighting a guy with a dangerous left hook , a quick left hand , at that stage of the fight , tiredness was not an excuse , he just did'nt know it was coming and looked like he had not trained to manouvre Pov away from dilivering it ,, Whytes lack of top class competition against GOOD BOXERS showed ,, Ok he was winning but not because he was so good , because he was in against a pov who has slowed down and just not has good ,,

There is no way he will hit Fury with the same shot , , Anyway i'm glad to see Pov do a number on him ,, hopefully Kugan will show on his next video , Whyte and his best bro Dean walking off into the sunset hand in hand ,, singing I love you best freind bro .

He'd fought Joshua, Parker, Chisora x2, Helenius, Rivas, etc....a good mix of fighters with different styles, strengths, and dimensions

How much better did his opposition need to be then? Remember he was also winning this fight 40-34 or 39-35, he was doing well and clearly not out of his depth and showing a lack of experience. Victory seemed near. But Whyte has always had his vulnerable spells, and Pov really did throw a f@cking lovely combo that very few hws throw, as leppy mentioned it tricked Whyte into thinking it was going to the body, but then boom

Whyte is the type of guy whose vulnerable spots were gonna catch up to him eventually, and it happened today vs an old but still handy fighter who threw a textbook combo with a textbook result

Btw, someone needs to find side by side photos of Whyte laid out in that half sitting up position vs AJ and Pov , was like the same thing, dude has nightmarees about uppercuts lol

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 00:52 He'd fought Joshua, Parker, Chisora x2, Helenius, Rivas, etc....a good mix of fighters with different styles, strengths, and dimensions

How much better did his opposition need to be then? Remember he was also winning this fight 40-34 or 39-35, he was doing well and clearly not out of his depth and showing a lack of experience.

Well Joshua , he got sparked , Parker he got a gift disiscion and the ref was woeful and on his side , Chisora well he's chisora , European level and at the end of his days ,still life and death though , Helenius , well he was only there for a payday , and he's well past his use by date , Rivas well won't go there ... Don't really have a problem with all that too be honest ,, what i did'nt like was the constant refusal to fight a good opponent , refuse title fights , yet still bleat on about how he desrves to be PPV,how he's now a star , how he's the A team , whilst all along cherry picking .

Well not any more , because i predict in the rematch if there is one , Pov is gonna go do his homework , pick his defence up , come and weather the first 3-4 rnds , then KO him again ,, Whyte well he's not gonna change ,, he could'nt even be bothered training to neutralize that left hand , which by the way was hitting and hurting Whyte earlier in the fight .

Bet Tibbs is throwing a party right now

Suppose what stood out to me the most , is he was getting hit with solid left hands to the body prior , the only reason he did'nt get hit with more was Pov looked his age and has slowed down ,, but we did see Pov throwing and landing text book hooks to the body ect ,, we also seen Pov throw and land a beutiful text book uppercut ,, but we did'nt see any text book defensive moves from Whyte , earlier or at the time , , to me i would say its because he does'nt know them or believed he did'nt need them ,,, Lack of big fight experience AGAINST SKILLED OPPONENTS

The curse of Dave Coldwell.

Whyte will go back to tibbs after that.

So what if he lost to Josh, or the Parker fight was controversial, etc? I mean you mentioned that he needed to have fought tougher opposition, so what difference does the results in those fight mean? Those are different issues. He still fought them and gained experience vs them didn't he...

What other fights should he had to prepare properly for pov?

Black Sam Bellamy wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 01:06 The curse of Dave Coldwell.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 01:07 So what if he lost to Josh, or the Parker fight was controversial, etc? I mean you mentioned that he needed to have fought tougher opposition, so what difference does the results in those fight mean? Those are different issues. He still fought them and gained experience vs them didn't he...

What other fights should he had to prepare properly for pov?

Fights he neede to prepare for POV,,, he would'nt take because he would of got beat , anyway it is what it is , he got flattened and now matbee Eddie will stop trying to sell him has a future world champ who deserves to be on PPV ,, I'm more glad its scuttled Eddies plans to force a fight with Fury and give the AJ - Fury a miss ,,, got no doubt Pov will do the same again in a rematch maybee even quicker next time ,, and i think Pov will take step aside money to fight the winner of AJ -Fury ,, but you have Wilder in the mix now , who could possibly agree to let AJ-Fury go next , and he fight Pov for the title if vacated ..Then theres Usyk and he will beat POV

For me this result has been the best result for heavyweight boxing , it dilutes Hearns say on the matter, and makes things more interesting

So who are those guys he shoulda fought to be better prepared for Pov?

I think it wouldn't have really made a difference, he's fought some of the best in the division already and I don't think it's the opposition he's been lacking. You could have him in with every guy in the division and his weaknesses would still be right there.

Part of it is simply his chin too. He gets hurt in a lot of fights, even when not taking great shots. aj and pov KTfo, Rivas and Parker down, and getting buzzed around the ring early by Helenius (that was a bizarre showing by helly)

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 01:20 So who are those guys he shoulda fought to be better prepared for Pov?

I think it wouldn't have really made a difference, he's fought some of the best in the division already and I don't think it's the opposition he's been lacking. You could have him in with every guy in the division and his weaknesses would still be right there.

Part of it is simply his chin too. He gets hurt in a lot of fights, even when not taking great shots. aj and pov KTfo, Rivas and Parker down, and getting buzzed around the ring early by Helenius (that was a bizarre showing by helly)

So who could he have fought to prepare better ,, well too be honest you probably got me there , but assuming he's the PPV star he's been telling us he is , and therfore able to get the money to get the fights all the better fighters , Ruiz , Ortiz , Usyk , to name but three , would of all beaten him but he had no intention of facing them.

Him fighting some of the best in the division , sorry can't agree with that , Heliuis is finished he was just a name willing to take a payday ,,, Parker i agree is up there but Whte needed the refs help in that one , Rivas , Brown , you think there even remotly the best your easilly pleased

But you are correct his chin is always gonna be a problem , which just goes to show he has been a product of flash eddie and his marketing skills , still he is like Chisora , when matched at his level will always be good to watch ,, just not PPV level
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I didn't say all those guys were top fighters, but I mean Whyte's had like 7 fights against guys who are probably top 15 in the division even now, including against a guy who KO'd Pov. I don't think it was the opposition that was the problem nor do I think that fighting a guy like Usyk wouldve helped him one bit in dealing with Pov.

And basically you say to prepare for Pov he shoulda fought guys who woulda all spanked him in your view, that seems more like what you'd enjoy seeing for your pleasure than something that would really be all that beneficial to his development

I think Whyte, no matter what he did, simply isnt good enough to not be at big risk of getting beat by Povetkin, who may be old but clearly still has good punch form and some power

coneye wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 01:04

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 00:52 He'd fought Joshua, Parker, Chisora x2, Helenius, Rivas, etc....a good mix of fighters with different styles, strengths, and dimensions

How much better did his opposition need to be then? Remember he was also winning this fight 40-34 or 39-35, he was doing well and clearly not out of his depth and showing a lack of experience.

Bet Tibbs is throwing a party right now

Suppose what stood out to me the most , is he was getting hit with solid left hands to the body prior , the only reason he did'nt get hit with more was Pov looked his age and has slowed down ,, but we did see Pov throwing and landing text book hooks to the body ect ,, we also seen Pov throw and land a beutiful text book uppercut ,, but we did'nt see any text book defensive moves from Whyte , earlier or at the time , , to me i would say its because he does'nt know them or believed he did'nt need them ,,, Lack of big fight experience AGAINST SKILLED OPPONENTS

I think if he'd stayed with Tibbs he'd have been better prepared for the moves Povetkin was going to bring. You can't fight a guy that good and only work on what you're going to do.

coneye wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 01:04

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 00:52 He'd fought Joshua, Parker, Chisora x2, Helenius, Rivas, etc....a good mix of fighters with different styles, strengths, and dimensions

How much better did his opposition need to be then? Remember he was also winning this fight 40-34 or 39-35, he was doing well and clearly not out of his depth and showing a lack of experience.

Bet Tibbs is throwing a party right now

Suppose what stood out to me the most , is he was getting hit with solid left hands to the body prior , the only reason he did'nt get hit with more was Pov looked his age and has slowed down ,, but we did see Pov throwing and landing text book hooks to the body ect ,, we also seen Pov throw and land a beutiful text book uppercut ,, but we did'nt see any text book defensive moves from Whyte , earlier or at the time , , to me i would say its because he does'nt know them or believed he did'nt need them ,,, Lack of big fight experience AGAINST SKILLED OPPONENTS

I think if he'd stayed with Tibbs he'd have been better prepared for the moves Povetkin was going to bring. You can't fight a guy that good and only work on what you're going to do.

coneye wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 01:04

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2020, 00:52 He'd fought Joshua, Parker, Chisora x2, Helenius, Rivas, etc....a good mix of fighters with different styles, strengths, and dimensions

How much better did his opposition need to be then? Remember he was also winning this fight 40-34 or 39-35, he was doing well and clearly not out of his depth and showing a lack of experience.

Bet Tibbs is throwing a party right now

Suppose what stood out to me the most , is he was getting hit with solid left hands to the body prior , the only reason he did'nt get hit with more was Pov looked his age and has slowed down ,, but we did see Pov throwing and landing text book hooks to the body ect ,, we also seen Pov throw and land a beutiful text book uppercut ,, but we did'nt see any text book defensive moves from Whyte , earlier or at the time , , to me i would say its because he does'nt know them or believed he did'nt need them ,,, Lack of big fight experience AGAINST SKILLED OPPONENTS

I think if he'd stayed with Tibbs he'd have been better prepared for the moves Povetkin was going to bring. You can't fight a guy that good and only work on what you're going to do.

I think if he'd stayed with Tibbs he'd have been better prepared for the moves Povetkin was going to bring (i.e. setting up a left uppercut with hooks to the body). You can't fight a guy that good and only work on what you're going to do.

Terrific piece of skill to end it though.

As others have pointed out, it was very reminiscent of Razor Ruddock's famed Smash. Surprised people don't employ the punch more, as it seems to have devastating effects.

Punch variety has gone down among hws big time