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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 13:27
by HomicideHenry
Why the hell is it always Saudi Arabia?
Usyk will be the biggest hypocrite in the world if the fight takes place in Saudi Arabia one of the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the world, when he just left his own country which is under threat by terrorism.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 14:03
by Ruthless-RKO
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 13:25
if DAZN don’t get the fight it will be disappointing but nothing more, they’re still a new player in relative terms, over time the brand will continue to grow, at some point they’ll get a Sky Platform channel which will help,
re this fight yes i agree Hearn will want Saudi for the site fee, f_ck jordan he’s a straight up clown
Why f ck Jordan?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 14:16
by daz74
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 14:03
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 13:25
if DAZN don’t get the fight it will be disappointing but nothing more, they’re still a new player in relative terms, over time the brand will continue to grow, at some point they’ll get a Sky Platform channel which will help,
re this fight yes i agree Hearn will want Saudi for the site fee, f_ck jordan he’s a straight up clown
Why f ck Jordan?
I just think he should stick to football, he’s calling out Benz as shit, but he didn’t have the balls to tell him that when he called the show, now he’s saying AJ Usyk can’t be Saudi, why the hell not ?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 15:04
by Ruthless-RKO
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 14:16
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 14:03
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 13:25
if DAZN don’t get the fight it will be disappointing but nothing more, they’re still a new player in relative terms, over time the brand will continue to grow, at some point they’ll get a Sky Platform channel which will help,
re this fight yes i agree Hearn will want Saudi for the site fee, f_ck jordan he’s a straight up clown
Why f ck Jordan?
I just think he should stick to football, he’s calling out Benz as shit, but he didn’t have the balls to tell him that when he called the show, now he’s saying AJ Usyk can’t be Saudi, why the hell not ?
Oh. Simon. Lol
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 15:13
by daz74
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 15:04
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 14:16
I just think he should stick to football, he’s calling out Benz as shit, but he didn’t have the balls to tell him that when he called the show, now he’s saying AJ Usyk can’t be Saudi, why the hell not ?
Oh. Simon. Lol
lol, which Jordan did u think, the country ?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 15:21
by Ruthless-RKO
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 15:13
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 15:04
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 14:16
I just think he should stick to football, he’s calling out Benz as shit, but he didn’t have the balls to tell him that when he called the show, now he’s saying AJ Usyk can’t be Saudi, why the hell not ?
Oh. Simon. Lol
lol, which Jordan did u think, the country ?
Haha’ yeh. Cus it’s next to Saudi.

Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 15:43
by Dioufy
This fight in Saudi is a slap in the face. It’ll sell out any arena here… yet might make a bit more money there with a soulless atmosphere.
I was lucky enough to be at the 1st fight… it would be nice if Hearn gives it to the fans here.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 16:07
by maverick23
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 15:43
This fight in Saudi is a slap in the face. It’ll sell out any arena here… yet might make a bit more money there with a soulless atmosphere.
I was lucky enough to be at the 1st fight… it would be nice if Hearn gives it to the fans here.
If it’s a bit more money then they won’t bother. If it’s an additional $50m in the pot then it’s difficult to argue against it.
Ultimately it’s up to the fighters. Hearn/Krassyuk will give them options but it’s their responsibility to maximise the potential income for the fight.
AJ won’t have an issue with Saudi and I’d be surprised if Usyk does too if it’s significantly more money.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 16:15
by Dioufy
maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:07
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 15:43
This fight in Saudi is a slap in the face. It’ll sell out any arena here… yet might make a bit more money there with a soulless atmosphere.
I was lucky enough to be at the 1st fight… it would be nice if Hearn gives it to the fans here.
If it’s a bit more money then they won’t bother. If it’s an additional $50m in the pot then it’s difficult to argue against it.
Ultimately it’s up to the fighters. Hearn/Krassyuk will give them options but it’s their responsibility to maximise the potential income for the fight.
AJ won’t have an issue with Saudi and I’d be surprised if Usyk does too if it’s significantly more money.
You’re probably right tbh. Even a 50mil site fee generates more than ticket sales I’d imagine.
Just can’t beat stadium fights in the UK when they’re done right.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 16:34
by maverick23
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:15
maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:07
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 15:43
This fight in Saudi is a slap in the face. It’ll sell out any arena here… yet might make a bit more money there with a soulless atmosphere.
I was lucky enough to be at the 1st fight… it would be nice if Hearn gives it to the fans here.
If it’s a bit more money then they won’t bother. If it’s an additional $50m in the pot then it’s difficult to argue against it.
Ultimately it’s up to the fighters. Hearn/Krassyuk will give them options but it’s their responsibility to maximise the potential income for the fight.
AJ won’t have an issue with Saudi and I’d be surprised if Usyk does too if it’s significantly more money.
You’re probably right tbh. Even a 50mil site fee generates more than ticket sales I’d imagine.
Just can’t beat stadium fights in the UK when they’re done right.
I agree but ultimately they’re prize fighters and if there’s a significant difference in their purses from fighting somewhere else then that’s where they’ll look to go.
Ali/Foreman fought in Zaire for $5m a piece (over $30m in today’s numbers). A country with a leader with a questionable past and supposedly the funds (at least according to Don King) were paid by Colonel Gaddafi.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 16:38
by Dioufy
Bad look for Usyk to agree to it though. Gone from ‘fighting the Russians’ to taking the fight to a soulless arena for an extra 2/3mil dollars.
Should be in England with the fight-theme very Ukrainian to bring even more attention to the plight of the Ukrainian population.
Just my opinion, mind.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 16:50
by maverick23
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:38
Bad look for Usyk to agree to it though. Gone from ‘fighting the Russians’ to taking the fight to a soulless arena for an extra 2/3mil dollars.
Should be in England with the fight-theme very Ukrainian to bring even more attention to the plight of the Ukrainian population.
Just my opinion, mind.
If it’s an extra 2/3mil I’d agree. If it’s an extra $15-$20m then I’d be surprised him not going for it.
For what I’ve read/listened to the deal for this fight is far closer to 50/50 than the financials for their first fight so if they are looking at a $100m rights fee then Usyk would be well within his rights to accept it.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 16:53
by Nightmare Roy
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 13:27
Why the hell is it always Saudi Arabia?
Usyk will be the biggest hypocrite in the world if the fight takes place in Saudi Arabia one of the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the world, when he just left his own country which is under threat by terrorism.
agreed, what they are doing to Yemen is exactly the same as what's happening to Ukraine.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 16:55
by Dioufy
maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:50
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:38
Bad look for Usyk to agree to it though. Gone from ‘fighting the Russians’ to taking the fight to a soulless arena for an extra 2/3mil dollars.
Should be in England with the fight-theme very Ukrainian to bring even more attention to the plight of the Ukrainian population.
Just my opinion, mind.
If it’s an extra 2/3mil I’d agree. If it’s an extra $15-$20m then I’d be surprised him not going for it.
For what I’ve read/listened to the deal for this fight is far closer to 50/50 than the financials for their first fight so if they are looking at a $100m rights fee then Usyk would be well within his rights to accept it.
Can’t blame him at all. It just separates him from the likes of the Klits and Lomachenko who are true patriots and heroes.
In the picture of Usyk in Kiev in battle gear he’s wearing a Rolex and boxing shoes,
Something just doesn’t sit right with me about it, and I don’t know what.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 17:30
by daz74
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:55
maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:50
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:38
Bad look for Usyk to agree to it though. Gone from ‘fighting the Russians’ to taking the fight to a soulless arena for an extra 2/3mil dollars.
Should be in England with the fight-theme very Ukrainian to bring even more attention to the plight of the Ukrainian population.
Just my opinion, mind.
If it’s an extra 2/3mil I’d agree. If it’s an extra $15-$20m then I’d be surprised him not going for it.
For what I’ve read/listened to the deal for this fight is far closer to 50/50 than the financials for their first fight so if they are looking at a $100m rights fee then Usyk would be well within his rights to accept it.
Can’t blame him at all. It just separates him from the likes of the Klits and Lomachenko who are true patriots and heroes.
In the picture of Usyk in Kiev in battle gear he’s wearing a Rolex and boxing shoes,
Something just doesn’t sit right with me about it, and I don’t know what.
who knows what Usyk might do with his 50M, help rebuild Ukraine ? would that reinstall his true patriotism for you ?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 17:36
by Dioufy
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 17:30
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:55
maverick23 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:50
If it’s an extra 2/3mil I’d agree. If it’s an extra $15-$20m then I’d be surprised him not going for it.
For what I’ve read/listened to the deal for this fight is far closer to 50/50 than the financials for their first fight so if they are looking at a $100m rights fee then Usyk would be well within his rights to accept it.
Can’t blame him at all. It just separates him from the likes of the Klits and Lomachenko who are true patriots and heroes.
In the picture of Usyk in Kiev in battle gear he’s wearing a Rolex and boxing shoes,
Something just doesn’t sit right with me about it, and I don’t know what.
who knows what Usyk might do with his 50M, help rebuild Ukraine ? would that reinstall his true patriotism for you ?
It’s going to take a lot more than 50mil to rebuild Ukraine.
He can do what he wants, fight where he wants, ect… but without doubt true patriotism is standing and fighting for what you believe in and doing what so many Ukrainians in Ukraine are doing.
And now he’s potentially going to make millions off the back of a state that in ways isn’t that different from communist Russia.
Seems a little hypocritical to me.
If he was against this… Klimas and Krassuk would be all over social media denying it…
It’s not like they’re shrinking violets on there…
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 17:40
by daz74
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 13:27
Why the hell is it always Saudi Arabia?
Usyk will be the biggest hypocrite in the world if the fight takes place in Saudi Arabia one of the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the world, when he just left his own country which is under threat by terrorism.
There’s a ton of countries up to no good. If not Saudi then where ? UK ? We’re hardly role models when it comes to dumping on other countries during our empirical past. Why would Usyk want the fight here ?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 17:47
by daz74
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 17:36
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 17:30
Dioufy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 16:55
Can’t blame him at all. It just separates him from the likes of the Klits and Lomachenko who are true patriots and heroes.
In the picture of Usyk in Kiev in battle gear he’s wearing a Rolex and boxing shoes,
Something just doesn’t sit right with me about it, and I don’t know what.
who knows what Usyk might do with his 50M, help rebuild Ukraine ? would that reinstall his true patriotism for you ?
It’s going to take a lot more than 50mil to rebuild Ukraine.
He can do what he wants, fight where he wants, ect… but without doubt true patriotism is standing and fighting for what you believe in and doing what so many Ukrainians in Ukraine are doing.
And now he’s potentially going to make millions off the back of a state that in ways isn’t that different from communist Russia.
Seems a little hypocritical to me.
If he was against this… Klimas and Krassuk would be all over social media denying it…
It’s not like they’re shrinking violets on there…
Usyk has a special talent, why waste it getting blown the f_ck up by a mad man’s army
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 17:51
by HomicideHenry
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 17:40
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 13:27
Why the hell is it always Saudi Arabia?
Usyk will be the biggest hypocrite in the world if the fight takes place in Saudi Arabia one of the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the world, when he just left his own country which is under threat by terrorism.
There’s a ton of countries up to no good. If not Saudi then where ? UK ? We’re hardly role models when it comes to dumping on other countries during our empirical past. Why would Usyk want the fight here ?
F*ck the past grievance nonsense. Are you presently dumping on other countries like imperialists? Far as I know of no. So it's a false comparison.
Besides, it didn't bother Usyk winning the belts in England so why would it bother doing the return match in England?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 17:53
by Dioufy
Yeah that’s fine… but again, I reiterate, that’s what sets him aside from his best mate Lomachenko,
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 18:10
by daz74
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 17:51
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 17:40
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 13:27
Why the hell is it always Saudi Arabia?
Usyk will be the biggest hypocrite in the world if the fight takes place in Saudi Arabia one of the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the world, when he just left his own country which is under threat by terrorism.
There’s a ton of countries up to no good. If not Saudi then where ? UK ? We’re hardly role models when it comes to dumping on other countries during our empirical past. Why would Usyk want the fight here ?
F*ck the past grievance nonsense. Are you presently dumping on other countries like imperialists? Far as I know of no. So it's a false comparison.
Besides, it didn't bother Usyk winning the belts in England so why would it bother doing the return match in England?
I think Saudi and Russia is a false comparison.
Last time in England Usyk was the challenger, as the champ he might be less keen to come here again …..
Just speculating, could well be wrong …
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 18:55
by Nightmare Roy
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 18:10
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 17:51
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 17:40
There’s a ton of countries up to no good. If not Saudi then where ? UK ? We’re hardly role models when it comes to dumping on other countries during our empirical past. Why would Usyk want the fight here ?
F*ck the past grievance nonsense. Are you presently dumping on other countries like imperialists? Far as I know of no. So it's a false comparison.
Besides, it didn't bother Usyk winning the belts in England so why would it bother doing the return match in England?
I think Saudi and Russia is a false comparison.
Last time in England Usyk was the challenger, as the champ he might be less keen to come here again …..
Just speculating, could well be wrong …
absolutely nothing wrong with our judges and referees thank you very much!

Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 21:53
by KiwiRider
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 18:55
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 18:10
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 17:51
F*ck the past grievance nonsense. Are you presently dumping on other countries like imperialists? Far as I know of no. So it's a false comparison.
Besides, it didn't bother Usyk winning the belts in England so why would it bother doing the return match in England?
I think Saudi and Russia is a false comparison.
Last time in England Usyk was the challenger, as the champ he might be less keen to come here again …..
Just speculating, could well be wrong …
absolutely nothing wrong with our judges and referees* thank you very much!
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 04:17
by Nightmare Roy
KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 21:53
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 18:55
daz74 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 18:10
I think Saudi and Russia is a false comparison.
Last time in England Usyk was the challenger, as the champ he might be less keen to come here again …..
Just speculating, could well be wrong …
absolutely nothing wrong with our judges and referees* thank you very much!
* This post sponsored by BBBoC
Making Britain the new Germany since 2020
it's embarrassing
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Anthony Joshua II - Summer 2022
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 04:39
by KiwiRider
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 04:17
KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 21:53
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑30 Mar 2022, 18:55
absolutely nothing wrong with our judges and referees* thank you very much!
* This post sponsored by BBBoC
Making Britain the new Germany since 2020
it's embarrassing
It's just been a bit bad the last few years.
It's a shame nothing has happened to the worst offenders to discourage further embarrassing things.
Well, nothing of consequence.