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Dioufy wrote: ↑07 Jan 2022, 15:47
We need an arbitration belt.

wilders the arbitration lineal champ, gotta beat the man to be the man, these just the contenders

Division of Proceeds in a Purse Offer. The net purse offer (after deduction of the WBC certification
fees) shall be divided as follows:

a) 70% for the champion and 30% for the challenger.
b) 50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts.
c) 55% to the champion and 45% to the interim champion, in the event of such a bout.
d) Notwithstanding the terms of subparagraphs a), b) and c) above, the Board of Governors
may, in its discretion and by a majority vote, modify the division of purse offer proceeds
between boxers in a purse offer in unusual or special cases, like the consideration of the
outstanding marketing value of one of the boxers. The modification of the split will be
limited to three categories: 70-30%; 60-40%; and 55-45% for the Champion and
challenger, respectively, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split
may be modified to 50-50%.

Is Whyte interim champion officially?

Where does 80-20 come from as the exceptional marketing points looks like it is modified only for the challengers split?

ya, but at the start of the wbc's overall rule book, of which that's only a part, think its stated they have basically discretion to decide whatever

http://www.wbcboxing.com/downloads/NEW_ ... L_2009.pdf

2.2 The purse offer regulations and procedures including, without limitation, the respective
percentages of the bout purses payable to the champion and challenger, may be modified in
special or unusual cases when approved by the vote of a majority of the Board of Governors.

There we go, case closed. Don't annoy them basically.

basically shot himself in the foot going after them by the sounds of it

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:00 basically shot himself in the foot going after them by the sounds of it

He deserves everything he gets.

it would be just fair to pay him what percentage fury got for the first wilder fight anyone know that ? was it 30%

dan28uk wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:14 it would be just fair to pay him what percentage fury got for the first wilder fight anyone know that ? was it 30%

Why? Tyson was on a lot more than 300k. That's all Whyte is on, apparently. And Fury was a voluntary, no splits.

It's fckong boring now, if these ABCs had set rules then we wouldn't need to put up with the constant bullsh1t, the fight would have happened and we'd all have moved on, hopefully Whyte would be rendered unconscious but who knows it's Boxing as good as Fury is he's more than hittable, it's a great fight tbh but people hate Whyte that much they fail to acknowledge it, I don't like Whyte either but I love the Fury fight

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:24

dan28uk wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:14 it would be just fair to pay him what percentage fury got for the first wilder fight anyone know that ? was it 30%

Why? Tyson was on a lot more than 300k. That's all Whyte is on, apparently. And Fury was a voluntary, no splits.

100%

Fury’s team are gonna milk this.

Is Whyte doesn’t like it, his only way out is to not take the fight..

He’s already lost out on millions when he pulled out f he Wallin fight in October.

He could have won that bout and then fought again in March or April.

ideal scenario of way too many dudes: whyte gets f@cked, fury doesn't fight

the victory is loling at whyte

count it as yet another lineal defense for big tyson

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:42

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:24

dan28uk wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:14 it would be just fair to pay him what percentage fury got for the first wilder fight anyone know that ? was it 30%

Why? Tyson was on a lot more than 300k. That's all Whyte is on, apparently. And Fury was a voluntary, no splits.

100%

Fury’s team are gonna milk this.

Is Whyte doesn’t like it, his only way out is to not take the fight..

He’s already lost out on millions when he pulled out f he Wallin fight in October.

He could have won that bout and then fought again in March or April.

This £300k thing is misleading. What was on a much lower amount than normal because he was the challenger so to speak.

In days of old, it was 75/25, but the WBC are a bunch of absolute turnips and have to get involved instead of just having a one rule policy. Whyte and his team have seen an WBC Interim get 45%, so that's what they think they can get. This is millions and millions of pounds and you can't blame either side for wanting a bigger piece of the pie. Every fight could be your last, so you have to maximize your earnings. Both fighters want the fight, the WBC are to blame.

Make it winner take all

597118 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:54 Make it winner take all

Unless Fury knocks himself out, Whyte will need his BFH

595179 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:55

597118 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:54 Make it winner take all

Unless Fury knocks himself out, Whyte will need his BFH

597118 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:56

595179 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:55

597118 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:54 Make it winner take all

Unless Fury knocks himself out, Whyte will need his BFH

In all seriousness, Fury could pick up a cut or a DQ and it's bye-bye cash.

The purse bids have been delayed a week. Who knows why. Likely due to Whyte’s complaints but may be that they think a deal can be done.

595179 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:51

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:42

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:24
Why? Tyson was on a lot more than 300k. That's all Whyte is on, apparently. And Fury was a voluntary, no splits.

100%

Fury’s team are gonna milk this.

Is Whyte doesn’t like it, his only way out is to not take the fight..

He’s already lost out on millions when he pulled out f he Wallin fight in October.

He could have won that bout and then fought again in March or April.

This £300k thing is misleading. What was on a much lower amount than normal because he was the challenger so to speak.

In days of old, it was 75/25, but the WBC are a bunch of absolute turnips and have to get involved instead of just having a one rule policy. Whyte and his team have seen an WBC Interim get 45%, so that's what they think they can get. This is millions and millions of pounds and you can't blame either side for wanting a bigger piece of the pie. Every fight could be your last, so you have to maximize your earnings. Both fighters want the fight, the WBC are to blame.

The £300k is the base purse he would have had in his contract whilst he would have also received PPV upside which would have taken him into the millions.

Either way Tyson will have earned far far more than Dillian in the last few fights.

The WBC are fully to blame for this mess.

They have a rule set and don’t follow it. Anything that’s open to interpretation will cause problems.

Whyte is literally unknown outside of England. Fury is massive worldwide.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 09:06 Whyte is literally unknown outside of England. Fury is massive worldwide.

Even after his big fight with Malcolm Tann

maverick23 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 09:05

595179 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:51

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 08:42

100%

Fury’s team are gonna milk this.

Is Whyte doesn’t like it, his only way out is to not take the fight..

He’s already lost out on millions when he pulled out f he Wallin fight in October.

He could have won that bout and then fought again in March or April.

This £300k thing is misleading. What was on a much lower amount than normal because he was the challenger so to speak.

In days of old, it was 75/25, but the WBC are a bunch of absolute turnips and have to get involved instead of just having a one rule policy. Whyte and his team have seen an WBC Interim get 45%, so that's what they think they can get. This is millions and millions of pounds and you can't blame either side for wanting a bigger piece of the pie. Every fight could be your last, so you have to maximize your earnings. Both fighters want the fight, the WBC are to blame.

The £300k is the base purse he would have had in his contract whilst he would have also received PPV upside which would have taken him into the millions.

Either way Tyson will have earned far far more than Dillian in the last few fights.

The WBC are fully to blame for this mess.

They have a rule set and don’t follow it. Anything that’s open to interpretation will cause problems.

Bob Arum is playing hardball, he doesn't want Fury-Helenius. Who would actually pay to go and see Fury fight a guy that Whyte dominated? Except Mickey of course. That fight would not sell out a stadium in the UK and I doubt it generates the kind of revenue that you would need to pay Fury what he got for the Wilder fight. I have my doubts that Fury would even sign off on a fight with Helenius.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 09:06 Whyte is literally unknown outside of England. Fury is massive worldwide.

Yeah, but you're a little bit biased, though. Do you think his Fury-Helenius sells as many tickets in Cardiff as AJ-Takam?

Whyte’s as daft as a brush - Fury holds all the cards, he’s the belt holder, he’s the lineal champ and he brings way more fans with him. 20% would be fair.

If his foolish over estimation of his own worth leads him to refuse this fight like he refused the AJ rematch then all that’s left for him is gatekeeper type fights against rising stars like Dubois or Wardley

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑09 Jan 2022, 09:34 Whyte’s as daft as a brush - Fury holds all the cards, he’s the belt holder, he’s the lineal champ and he brings way more fans with him. 20% would be fair.

If his foolish over estimation of his own worth leads him to refuse this fight like he refused the AJ rematch then all that’s left for him is gatekeeper type fights against rising stars like Dubois or Wardley

Oh no he's not.