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Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:20
by godosin
mcrow24 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:09
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:05
Two judges scored rd1 10-9 and not 10-8
Since when does an KD not get you a 10-8 rd? Then both give Teo a 10-8 in the 9th.
Judges are such a clown show in boxing.
If judges think a fighter did enough to win a round but they get knocked down they sometimes will score 10-9 but this is supposed to be rare.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:21
by mcrow24
stujones wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:16
mcrow24 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:08
bobcatbox wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:05
Didn’t too Fury-Wilder III in my book
Yeah, Fury-Wilder III was good too but two different sorts of fights. I'd say they're definitely #1-#2.
I've not seen this fight, but from the round by round, this was close. Fury vs Wilder was great drama but if you edit out 10 seconds was pretty damn one sided. It was the Wilder factor and knowing he is one punch away
As said, not seen this one but by the looks of their faces the were both in a hell of a fight
I think Fury beat Wilder much worse than Kambosos beat Lopez. Yeah, Wilder could KO anyone at any time but it just seemed like for a long time in that one you knew how it was probably going to end. Tonight's fight it was still in question to some degree going into the final round.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:21
by margaret thatcher
wilder basically had one big round in fury 3
it had some huge moments for sure, but kambo - teo had kds too, and more sustained competitivness and was in balance right till the end
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:21
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:19
well, i doubt the dude who scored it 115-112 for kambo was trying to rob him
He scored the last 10-9 for Lopez too.
The 115-111 was the best and honest judge IMO.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:22
by mcrow24
godosin wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:20
mcrow24 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:09
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:05
Two judges scored rd1 10-9 and not 10-8
Since when does an KD not get you a 10-8 rd? Then both give Teo a 10-8 in the 9th.
Judges are such a clown show in boxing.
If judges think a fighter did enough to win a round but they get knocked down they sometimes will score 10-9 but this is supposed to be rare.
Yeah, I can see it if the fighter that was KD clearly dominated the round outside of the KD but that was probably a 50/50 round at best before the KD.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:23
by Ruthless-RKO
mcrow24 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:22
godosin wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:20
mcrow24 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:09
Since when does an KD not get you a 10-8 rd? Then both give Teo a 10-8 in the 9th.
Judges are such a clown show in boxing.
If judges think a fighter did enough to win a round but they get knocked down they sometimes will score 10-9 but this is supposed to be rare.
Yeah, I can see it if the fighter that was KD clearly dominated the round outside of the KD but that was probably a 50/50 round at best before the KD.
Even in those cases I’ve seen plenty still give it 10-8
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:23
by margaret thatcher
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:21
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:19
well, i doubt the dude who scored it 115-112 for kambo was trying to rob him
He scored the last 10-9 for Lopez too.
The 115-111 was the best and honest judge IMO.
sure, which means he had kambo up 4 going into the 12th, which tbh is wider than a lot of us had it
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:24
by gregregegg
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:05
Two judges scored rd1 10-9 and not 10-8
I actually Agree with it being a 10-9 round in principle. Won 95% of the round and then got dropped, but not badly hurt. But there needs to be consistancy on it, and if you follow consistency thats a 10-8 all day.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:24
by mcrow24
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:21
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 01:19
well, i doubt the dude who scored it 115-112 for kambo was trying to rob him
He scored the last 10-9 for Lopez too.
The 115-111 was the best and honest judge IMO.
Me too, I had it 115-111 so that seemed pretty fair. I think +/- a round would be pretty fair but I see no reasoning that give Teo the win.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:26
by mcrow24
I think Teo's dad telling him he's winning every GD round had something to do with this loss and his reaction afterward too.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:26
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:42
by Ruthless-RKO
Much bigger win than Horn-Pac
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 01:47
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 02:10
by lazboy
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 02:13
by KiwiRider
Oh yeah, Kambosos sparred 100's of rounds with Manny for the Thurman and Ugas fights I forgot about that
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 03:14
by ironbeard
KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 02:13
Oh yeah, Kambosos sparred 100's of rounds with Manny for the Thurman and Ugas fights I forgot about that
That reminds me of the fight that this one was similar to; Pac v Thurman. Without that KD in the first round, Pac loses that fight. Same thing tonight, IMO.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 03:20
by Perseus
Another excellent show on DAZN.
Flop over vs Kambosos =
Ogawa vs Fuzile was an excellent fight too. I hope to see both of them on DAZN again.
Ford is going to be in a lot of entertaining fights too....
Jessica and Algeiri did an excellent job too.
Rosado did a good job on the DAZN show Friday night as well.
DAZN does a very good job selecting commentators.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 03:22
by DrDuke
Perseus wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:20
DAZN does a very good job selecting commentators.
I definitely remember them having some biased idiots too.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 03:23
by KiwiRider
ironbeard wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:14
KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 02:13
Oh yeah, Kambosos sparred 100's of rounds with Manny for the Thurman and Ugas fights I forgot about that
That reminds me of the fight that this one was similar to; Pac v Thurman. Without that KD in the first round, Pac loses that fight. Same thing tonight, IMO.
If there is a rematch, I expect George to come on stronger.
Manny had good things to say about George, and he got a great multi fight signing. So people in the know, knew.
When I went back and watched all his fights I could find, in order, it is clear he is learning the job.
He learned heaps tonight. I think he beats an aging Loma as well.
Big call, I know
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 03:26
by Perseus
DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:22
Perseus wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:20
DAZN does a very good job selecting commentators.
I definitely remember them having some biased idiots too.
Not Jessica, Chris and Gabe.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 03:28
by ironbeard
KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:23
ironbeard wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:14
KiwiRider wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 02:13
Oh yeah, Kambosos sparred 100's of rounds with Manny for the Thurman and Ugas fights I forgot about that
That reminds me of the fight that this one was similar to; Pac v Thurman. Without that KD in the first round, Pac loses that fight. Same thing tonight, IMO.
If there is a rematch, I expect George to come on stronger.
Manny had good things to say about George, and he got a great multi fight signing. So people in the know, knew.
When I went back and watched all his fights I could find, in order, it is clear he is learning the job.
He learned heaps tonight. I think he beats an aging Loma as well.
Big call, I know
I’m not sure that Lomassiah will go in that direction. George ain’t Commey.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 03:30
by DrDuke
Perseus wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:26
DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:22
Perseus wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:20
DAZN does a very good job selecting commentators.
I definitely remember them having some biased idiots too.
Not Jessica, Chris and Gabe.
Yeah, it were some other ones. Today they did OK.
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 04:38
by gregregegg
DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:30
Perseus wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:26
DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:22
I definitely remember them having some biased idiots too.
Not Jessica, Chris and Gabe.
Yeah, it were some other ones. Today they did OK.
Today was easy for them to be reasonable... The only fight people cared about they had no horse in the race.. Eddie didnt even have to come out with his classic post fight interview lie of "im no judge but i actualy had it 7-5 (insert home fighter who clearly lost name), I can see the draw but i dont know how someone had it against him"
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 04:42
by margaret thatcher
gregregegg wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 04:38
DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:30
Perseus wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 03:26
Not Jessica, Chris and Gabe.
Yeah, it were some other ones. Today they did OK.
Eddie didnt even have to come out with his classic post fight interview lie of "im no judge but i actualy had it 7-5 (insert home fighter who clearly lost name), I can see the draw but i dont know how someone had it against him"
good ol ed
Re: Round-by-Round: Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. - November 27, 2021
Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 04:59
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 00:47
stujones wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 00:46
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Nov 2021, 00:44
Mandatory fight.
I take it there isn’t a rematch clause..
Unless they snuck one in.
This is a matchroom show
Do they sign new contracts or something?
Teo signed a new contract with high minimum
Purse with Arum
Went to purse bids so no mandatory rematch.