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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 16:53 it's possible, wardley's technique really fell to sh!t when he gassed and aside from however effective he was or wasnt, it just looked really messy to the eye and could have hurrt him in scoring. conversly, clarke was tired too but kept his form more in tact and l ooked more relaxed

defo needs someone to drill into him the importance of being able to stay more composed when he's tired. could be something that he's more calm about in the future having now been there once already,

J-C wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 16:19

rd350lc wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 15:55

J-C wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 09:10 Assume Whittaker is looking for a new trainer now, unless he’s planning on keeping Clayton.

Wonder if Dom Ingle would be a good fit for his style.

Was Sugar Hill his trainer ?
Wonder what went wrong with whoever it was ?.

He said in an interview there were no training issues but didn’t want to have to keep travelling to train with Sugar Hill.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 16:38

Frostieballs wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 10:20

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 10:10
I think you have to favour Clarke in a rematch. Wardleys got some facial damage that isn't going to heal and is always going to open up like that in fights.

I’m with you on that.

He’ll be more confident having done the 12 and knows he can take Wardley’s power (just). He can also work on avoiding those uppercuts and riding out the blitzes Wardley occasionally launches.

What did become clear was that neither are world beaters. Wardley doesn’t have the skills/technique and Frazer doesn’t have the engine or power.

disagree, wardley was an exhausted spaghetti man half the fight and had that bleeding early, yet clarke still couldnt put him in his place and kept getting stung whenever wardly would string anything together. that was already a great chance there that clarke couldnt capitalize on.

wardley paces himself a bit more intelligently, like not dumping it all when going for a kill, and he can carry most of the rounds. wardley also clearly able to hurt clarke easier than vise versa to turn the tide in rounds and bank kds

wardley had never completed more than 6 rounds in a fight prior to this, the experience could serve him well

dookus wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 16:50

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 16:38

Frostieballs wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 10:20

I’m with you on that.

He’ll be more confident having done the 12 and knows he can take Wardley’s power (just). He can also work on avoiding those uppercuts and riding out the blitzes Wardley occasionally launches.

What did become clear was that neither are world beaters. Wardley doesn’t have the skills/technique and Frazer doesn’t have the engine or power.

disagree, wardley was an exhausted spaghetti man half the fight and had that bleeding early, yet clarke still couldnt put him in his place and kept getting stung whenever wardly would string anything together. wardley paces himself a bit more intelligently, and he can carry most of the rounds. wardley also clearly able to hurt clarke easier than vise versa to turn the tide in rounds and bank kds

Wardley is the greater physical talent of the two, that's for sure, and he has good instincts too.


I am not sure he can really make any major change to his technique now - he is 29 and never had the amateur coaching etc .
Davison keeps reminding everyone he isnt teaching skills and technique but working with what a boxer has already and honing it to better effect and using the right tools at the right time .
Whyte said he saw once wardleys cut open rightup the game plan was out the window and he was just trying to go for the KO so there is work to do in terms of him really buying into the strategy and sticking to it .


Do you think Wardley would benefit from another technical trainer to bring him up to where he should be, mags? It's been said before that Davison doesn't bring fighters on from novice status and Wardley still looks a bit raw and awkward.

stevec@france wrote: ↑02 Apr 2024, 06:01

dookus wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 16:50

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 16:38

disagree, wardley was an exhausted spaghetti man half the fight and had that bleeding early, yet clarke still couldnt put him in his place and kept getting stung whenever wardly would string anything together. wardley paces himself a bit more intelligently, and he can carry most of the rounds. wardley also clearly able to hurt clarke easier than vise versa to turn the tide in rounds and bank kds

Wardley is the greater physical talent of the two, that's for sure, and he has good instincts too.


I am not sure he can really make any major change to his technique now - he is 29 and never had the amateur coaching etc .
Davison keeps reminding everyone he isnt teaching skills and technique but working with what a boxer has already and honing it to better effect and using the right tools at the right time .
Whyte said he saw once wardleys cut open rightup the game plan was out the window and he was just trying to go for the KO so there is work to do in terms of him really buying into the strategy and sticking to it .


Do you think Wardley would benefit from another technical trainer to bring him up to where he should be, mags? It's been said before that Davison doesn't bring fighters on from novice status and Wardley still looks a bit raw and awkward.

maverick23 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2024, 06:50

stevec@france wrote: ↑02 Apr 2024, 06:01

dookus wrote: ↑01 Apr 2024, 16:50 Wardley is the greater physical talent of the two, that's for sure, and he has good instincts too.


I am not sure he can really make any major change to his technique now - he is 29 and never had the amateur coaching etc .
Davison keeps reminding everyone he isnt teaching skills and technique but working with what a boxer has already and honing it to better effect and using the right tools at the right time .
Whyte said he saw once wardleys cut open rightup the game plan was out the window and he was just trying to go for the KO so there is work to do in terms of him really buying into the strategy and sticking to it .


Do you think Wardley would benefit from another technical trainer to bring him up to where he should be, mags? It's been said before that Davison doesn't bring fighters on from novice status and Wardley still looks a bit raw and awkward.

Wardley isn’t full time with Ben. I think he does most of day to day stuff with another guy (I can’t remember his name but wasn’t someone I’d heard of before).

I thought he’d made some technical improvements when he fought Adeleye but that may say more about Adeleye than it does Wardley in hindsight.

handsofstone wrote: ↑31 Mar 2024, 15:08

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑31 Mar 2024, 13:04 i'm so thick I've only just realised we have Sky Sports. We've had it for a year apparently. Wife just told me. Genuinely impressed with my stupidity.

Ffs Sean