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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Mar 2026, 18:44 itauma the fastest hw hands since mike dokes

Come on, let's not get carried away. He's not even the fastest southpaw heavyweight; Corrie Sanders' handspeed was just as good.

dempseyfire wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 17:33

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Mar 2026, 18:44 itauma the fastest hw hands since mike dokes

Come on, let's not get carried away. He's not even the fastest southpaw heavyweight; Corrie Sanders' handspeed was just as good.

what's your list of heavies with faster hands since dokes?

rd350lc wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 04:26

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 04:04

Maybe he could train for his next fight, it might help him.

Yeah he's a tough guy with decent skills but you'll never be elite level bringing in a body like his into top fights.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 17:35

dempseyfire wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 17:33

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Mar 2026, 18:44 itauma the fastest hw hands since mike dokes

Come on, let's not get carried away. He's not even the fastest southpaw heavyweight; Corrie Sanders' handspeed was just as good.

what's your list of heavies with faster hands since dokes?

I mean in their primes I think Holyfield, Tyson, Sanders, Wlad Klitschko, Chris Byrd were all in the same league speed-wise and several were clearly faster. Ituama looks so fast because the guys he's facing are extremely immobile.

Dokes' hand speed was off the charts for a heavyweight

Eddie Chambers was pretty speedy with his dukes. Chris Byrd was very quick too.

It's inescapable to notice that Ituama has very fast hands and he delivers the punches correctly too.

Torrez is the natural fight, and I'd pick Itauma to win quite easily. Don't think Torrez has the timing or size to get the job done.

Joyce would've been a good matchup a few years ago, same as Ruiz or Miller, but they're all too past it now. Don't laugh, but what about Hughie? If he could Shades it long enough to see Itauma's wheels. Stopping him would look very good for Itauma, and a win for Hughie would leapfrog him into contention. Or Parker's available.

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:08 Torrez is the natural fight, and I'd pick Itauma to win quite easily. Don't think Torrez has the timing or size to get the job done.

Joyce would've been a good matchup a few years ago, same as Ruiz or Miller, but they're all too past it now. Don't laugh, but what about Hughie? If he could Shades it long enough to see Itauma's wheels. Parker's available.

I think Parker is the ideal opponent actually. Could be a measuring stick to see how he does against Parker as opposed to how Wardley did.

If Miller beats Lenier Pero he makes as much sense as anyone I'd say, but that's a big if.

Any of the young unbeaten prospects would surely rather wait until their fight with Itauma is for all the marbles before putting themselves in front of him I'd imagine. Surely their managers must think that if they have any sense.

Yeah, I thought of Anderson, but doubt he's in a hurry. We'll have to see how Riakporhe and Okolie get on next month.

If either or both look good there should be an easy British fight to make between them.

forcefraser wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 11:44 Andy Ruiz or Hrgovic for me. I he stops either of them I'll be fully onboard, especially Hrgovic

Chris Mannix on his podcast pointed out that Hrgovic is a very unusual opponent to match Dave Allen with and speculated that Hrgovic has been brought in by Warren for this fight in order to raise his profile further with UK fans with the intention of lining him up as Moses’ next opponent

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:35

forcefraser wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 11:44 Andy Ruiz or Hrgovic for me. I he stops either of them I'll be fully onboard, especially Hrgovic

Chris Mannix on his podcast pointed out that Hrgovic is a very unusual opponent to match Dave Allen with and speculated that Hrgovic has been brought in by Warren for this fight in order to raise his profile further with UK fans with the intention of lining him up as Moses’ next opponent

That actually makes sense. They could probably talk him into fighting Itauma by paying him well to fight a guy like Dave Allen first.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 22:33

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:35

forcefraser wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 11:44 Andy Ruiz or Hrgovic for me. I he stops either of them I'll be fully onboard, especially Hrgovic

Chris Mannix on his podcast pointed out that Hrgovic is a very unusual opponent to match Dave Allen with and speculated that Hrgovic has been brought in by Warren for this fight in order to raise his profile further with UK fans with the intention of lining him up as Moses’ next opponent

That actually makes sense. They could probably talk him into fighting Itauma by paying him well to fight a guy like Dave Allen first.

so basically Warren is grooming Anderson and Hrg to feed to Mo

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:35

forcefraser wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 11:44 Andy Ruiz or Hrgovic for me. I he stops either of them I'll be fully onboard, especially Hrgovic

Chris Mannix on his podcast pointed out that Hrgovic is a very unusual opponent to match Dave Allen with and speculated that Hrgovic has been brought in by Warren for this fight in order to raise his profile further with UK fans with the intention of lining him up as Moses’ next opponent

That’s really clever and makes sense

Least he’s signing them to create a future fight unlike Eddie who signed Ortiz to keep him away from AJ

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑31 Mar 2026, 07:55

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:35

forcefraser wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 11:44 Andy Ruiz or Hrgovic for me. I he stops either of them I'll be fully onboard, especially Hrgovic

Chris Mannix on his podcast pointed out that Hrgovic is a very unusual opponent to match Dave Allen with and speculated that Hrgovic has been brought in by Warren for this fight in order to raise his profile further with UK fans with the intention of lining him up as Moses’ next opponent

That’s really clever and makes sense

Least he’s signing them to create a future fight unlike Eddie who signed Ortiz to keep him away from AJ

The Ortiz that he signed then couldn't stop Malik Scott and couldn't drop David Allen when fighting on Matchroom cards? Joshua ended up facing Klitschko later that year, he must have been terrified.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:19

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:08 Torrez is the natural fight, and I'd pick Itauma to win quite easily. Don't think Torrez has the timing or size to get the job done.

Joyce would've been a good matchup a few years ago, same as Ruiz or Miller, but they're all too past it now. Don't laugh, but what about Hughie? If he could Shades it long enough to see Itauma's wheels. Parker's available.

I think Parker is the ideal opponent actually. Could be a measuring stick to see how he does against Parker as opposed to how Wardley did.

If Miller beats Lenier Pero he makes as much sense as anyone I'd say, but that's a big if.

Any of the young unbeaten prospects would surely rather wait until their fight with Itauma is for all the marbles before putting themselves in front of him I'd imagine. Surely their managers must think that if they have any sense.

Parker would be another big step up, he's still a world class fighter, and not over the hill yet.

Parker would definitely come to win as well, everything to gain if he wins.

I'd be pretty astonished if they matched Itauma with Parker, the gulf in experience is huge.

That said, as risky as it is, I think it's a great matchup - even if he lost, I doubt Itauma gets bashed up and he would learn a huge amount from fighting Parker I think.

It definitely isn't Warren's style though, maybe in a couple of years time.

I actually think holding Itauma back is a mistake, it could hamper his progression as a fighter, he has all the tools there it seems, but needs experience.

I doubt anybody would hire me as a matchmaker though.

golden_labrador wrote: ↑31 Mar 2026, 07:54

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 22:33

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:35
Chris Mannix on his podcast pointed out that Hrgovic is a very unusual opponent to match Dave Allen with and speculated that Hrgovic has been brought in by Warren for this fight in order to raise his profile further with UK fans with the intention of lining him up as Moses’ next opponent

That actually makes sense. They could probably talk him into fighting Itauma by paying him well to fight a guy like Dave Allen first.

so basically Warren is grooming Anderson and Hrg to feed to Mo

Warren has signed a few guys recently that definitely seen like opponents rather than his guys. Hrgovic, Anderson, Yoka and Hysa at heavyweight.

Needs opponents for his guys, and if his guys lose, he still leaves with the champion

joshj909 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2026, 08:25

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑31 Mar 2026, 07:55

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:35
Chris Mannix on his podcast pointed out that Hrgovic is a very unusual opponent to match Dave Allen with and speculated that Hrgovic has been brought in by Warren for this fight in order to raise his profile further with UK fans with the intention of lining him up as Moses’ next opponent

That’s really clever and makes sense

Least he’s signing them to create a future fight unlike Eddie who signed Ortiz to keep him away from AJ

The Ortiz that he signed then couldn't stop Malik Scott and couldn't drop David Allen when fighting on Matchroom cards? Joshua ended up facing Klitschko later that year, he must have been terrified.

He was.

joshj909 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2026, 08:25

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑31 Mar 2026, 07:55

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:35
Chris Mannix on his podcast pointed out that Hrgovic is a very unusual opponent to match Dave Allen with and speculated that Hrgovic has been brought in by Warren for this fight in order to raise his profile further with UK fans with the intention of lining him up as Moses’ next opponent

That’s really clever and makes sense

Least he’s signing them to create a future fight unlike Eddie who signed Ortiz to keep him away from AJ

The Ortiz that he signed then couldn't stop Malik Scott and couldn't drop David Allen when fighting on Matchroom cards? Joshua ended up facing Klitschko later that year, he must have been terrified.

How dare you come back at me with facts and logic.

Shame on you.

Good point btw….

Although tbf I don’t think anyone could drop Dave.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑31 Mar 2026, 10:51 Although tbf I don’t think anyone could drop Dave.

Yeah agreed, especially back then it's not going to be pretty when his chin goes like Wach's

rhino222 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 09:38

joshj909 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 06:54

tony1234 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 06:51 wonder if Chisora wins on Saturday they go for that as a summer stadium PPV ? Would be an easy sell

Sells well but it's high risk for Itauma. He obviously looks good but Chisora is a veteran with a decent chin. He can make it ugly in a way that Itauma might not know how to deal with, will Frank risk that?

I disagree, Chisora is basic jabs and hooks. Itauma lays him out within 4 rounds. I think Baby Miller is the fight for Itauma.

agreed. Mo will face constant pressure from Miller. Dubois couldn't knock him over for 10 rounds.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 21:35

forcefraser wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 11:44 Andy Ruiz or Hrgovic for me. I he stops either of them I'll be fully onboard, especially Hrgovic

Chris Mannix on his podcast pointed out that Hrgovic is a very unusual opponent to match Dave Allen with and speculated that Hrgovic has been brought in by Warren for this fight in order to raise his profile further with UK fans with the intention of lining him up as Moses’ next opponent

This is my read on the situation as well.

Makhamudov got the Fury fight off a one-sided beating of Allen.

Hrgovic is much better than Mak and will probably stop Allen too. He’s also pretty funny and from some of the clips I seen of him in the Allen pressers he’s quite dry and has the audience laughing.

I in between I’m sure they could bung Itauma in as co-main to prop up another Queensbury card against anybody they can find who’ll take a paycheque.

When Hrgovic walks through the loveable Allen with ease, they’ll easily be able to fill the 02 with Hrgovic vs Itauma later in the year.

Now seen the fight, and I might be the only boxing fan that actually favours Usyk more confidently following that fight ( if it’s in the next 12 months) than before the fight.

Think Usyk can take the power and think Itauma will use up a lot of nervous energy and will gas by the 7th , 8th round and Usyk will take over.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 22:13

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 22:08 I didn't see Bakole being mentioned. He's probably lost his hunger after making some paydays and living well in the Congo

I don't know if he's lost his hunger, but he's certainly lost his will to fight as much.

Couldn't resist the obvious fat joke there.

Bakole has definitely not lost one type of hunger.

Anyway, he's probably knocked out Itauma in sparring already.

stujones wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 15:34 Now seen the fight, and I might be the only boxing fan that actually favours Usyk more confidently following that fight ( if it’s in the next 12 months) than before the fight.

Think Usyk can take the power and think Itauma will use up a lot of nervous energy and will gas by the 7th , 8th round and Usyk will take over.

We saw against Fury, that Tyson was forced to work at a pace hecwssnt comfortable with, Belles said something similar in that the front foot pressure was unbearable.

When Uysk sees fit, he is willing to give up some rounds as he obviously feels it takes more out of his opponent