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Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 07:20
by Max Molyneux
Whats the point of the Ashes if it's only just England Vs Australia?

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 07:31
by J
pleaese keep out this thread max.

u seem a nice chap and i dont want to have to be rude :lol:

stick to boxing dude. :TU:

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 08:27
by stujones
thunderfromdownunder wrote:i think this could be the last test series for some of theses australia players....
I think it will many of these Aussies very last tests - really need to go to the drawboard, your really relying on Shane as an allrounder on this showing - and he will not be around forever either.

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 08:30
by Sweet P
stujones wrote:
thunderfromdownunder wrote:i think this could be the last test series for some of theses australia players....
I think it will many of these Aussies very last tests - really need to go to the drawboard, your really relying on Shane as an allrounder on this showing - and he will not be around forever either.
I think we are headed the way the West Indies went in the early 80s all the older greats retired and they were left with a big gap in there side between the players leaving and the young guys replacing them.

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 08:32
by J
agreed reckon you take these to the bank as being droppedunless they do something remarkable in the last test
hayden
martyn
kasprowisz
gillespie


Guys who wont be dropped but maybe struggling for the next ashes series
Mcgrath
Langer
Mcgill
Warne (tho like mcgrath this will be his decision)


reckon they will look to build a team around the likes fo Lee, Clarke, Tait

but it will take a while.

Lets also not forget that we ae only winning by small margins, admittedly there is additonal pressure with the little urn only being won once in 20 years so thats not helping, but these guys before being pensioned off, are still fighting hard.

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 08:38
by Sweet P
J wrote:agreed reckon you take these to the bank as being droppedunless they do something remarkable in the last test
hayden
martyn
kasprowisz
gillespie


Guys who wont be dropped but maybe struggling for the next ashes series
Mcgrath
Langer
Mcgill
Warne (tho like mcgrath this will be his decision)


reckon they will look to build a team around the likes fo Lee, Clarke, Tait

but it will take a while.

Lets also not forget that we ae only winning by small margins, admittedly there is additonal pressure with the little urn only being won once in 20 years so thats not helping, but these guys before being pensioned off, are still fighting hard.
Agree J, I still think with McGrath back and you blokes having doubt over Jones it isn't over by a long shot.

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 09:10
by J
its never over with you feckers mate, ive suffered long enough to know this. :TU: fight to the bitter end should be the aussie motto. :TU:

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 09:29
by stujones
J wrote:its never over with you feckers mate, ive suffered long enough to know this. :TU: fight to the bitter end should be the aussie motto. :TU:
Thats true - look at the last 3 tests.

Also true for the German football team.

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 09:34
by J
had a bit of a skim through earlier and its funny how wrong and right at times we have all been.

Huighlights are me saying drop tressie who is now topping the batting averages for England.

Everyone but David payne slaying vaughan then he scores 160 in his next innings.

And bollox saying we arent competetive and it will be 5-0 (sorry mate couldnt resist)

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 14:01
by stujones
I really rate Tressie, doesn't get the headlines he used to make (this ashes has been about Flintoff and Peterson) but still absolute class.

Posted: 02 Sep 2005, 10:00
by Max Molyneux
J wrote:pleaese keep out this thread max.

u seem a nice chap and i dont want to have to be rude :lol:

stick to boxing dude. :TU:
Ok, but theirs not point in just two teams playing each other for it it needs more teams. :TU:

Posted: 02 Sep 2005, 10:05
by nickd
Max Molyneux wrote:
J wrote:pleaese keep out this thread max.

u seem a nice chap and i dont want to have to be rude :lol:

stick to boxing dude. :TU:
Ok, but theirs not point in just two teams playing each other for it it needs more teams. :TU:
Jesus mate this isnt the world cup or anything, the Ashes go back to 1882 and are contested bi-annually between Australia and England.

England still play cricket against other teams just not for the Ashes.

This is nothing like the World Series in baseball or anything.

Have a read of this

http://www.334notout.com/ashes/ashbegin.htm

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 06:58
by J
I REFER TO MY EARLIER POST MAX.

u obviously dont know your silly mid on fomr youtr long leg. :lol: :lol:

And i dont have the time or inclination to explain it. :wink:

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:02
by bollox
Ashes trivia - what was unique about the first Oz team to tour England?

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:12
by stujones
bollox wrote:Ashes trivia - what was unique about the first Oz team to tour England?
Ummm they were the first, thats pretty unique.

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:13
by kevin
They were all English convicts :TU:

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:16
by bollox
har har Stu (fair point :oops: )

Kevin - very wrong with that one

Wat was the most distinctive feature of the team, collectively?

p.s. McGrath to play on Thursday and we slap you guys around? :wink:

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:19
by J
what like you have done in the last 3 tests?

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:25
by bollox
J wrote:what like you have done in the last 3 tests?
No, like we did in the first Test :D Mark my words fella, you ain't seen nuthin yet (actually, it'd be a bit ill fitting should we win and retain)

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:25
by Max Molyneux
J wrote:I REFER TO MY EARLIER POST MAX.

u obviously dont know your silly mid on fomr youtr long leg. :lol: :lol:

And i dont have the time or inclination to explain it. :wink:
:lol:

Explain it when you have time my friend. :wink: :TU:

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:27
by bollox
Oh dear. This could turn into another Kovit and Silkov thing :o

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:27
by J
bollox wrote:
J wrote:what like you have done in the last 3 tests?
No, like we did in the first Test :D Mark my words fella, you ain't seen nuthin yet (actually, it'd be a bit ill fitting should we win and retain)
haha ive read you posts since and they havent exaclty been spot on mate, so think ill put that down with the mcgrath 5-0 prediction and treat it with the contempt it deserves.

it makes me larf that you are getitng excited about maybe drawing the series though. Nuff said. :wink:

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:28
by J
Max Molyneux wrote:
J wrote:I REFER TO MY EARLIER POST MAX.

u obviously dont know your silly mid on fomr youtr long leg. :lol: :lol:

And i dont have the time or inclination to explain it. :wink:
:lol:

Explain it when you have time my friend. :wink: :TU:
sure will do over a pint one day.
:TU:

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:31
by bollox
J wrote:
bollox wrote:
J wrote:what like you have done in the last 3 tests?
No, like we did in the first Test :D Mark my words fella, you ain't seen nuthin yet (actually, it'd be a bit ill fitting should we win and retain)
haha ive read you posts since and they havent exaclty been spot on mate, so think ill put that down with the mcgrath 5-0 prediction and treat it with the contempt it deserves.

it makes me larf that you are getitng excited about maybe drawing the series though. Nuff said. :wink:
:box:

What's happening is simply what was always going to happen, only one or two series earlier than I thought - old and somewhat tired champ finally beaten by the young hungry contender. The era appears to be over

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 07:33
by J
nice analogy.

but not one you were advocating til recently :lol:
its all friendly banter mate, getitng in practice for thuirs, oh and fri ogh and sunday and Monday if i goes that far.

I shall be there when england retain the ashes.

With that and being at hatton been a good year for thumping aussies. :lol: :wink: