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kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:3 1/2 years - 7000+ posts = 5 1/2 posts per day . . .

This has been a nice run, however, I won't tolerate a phony bitch.
Moving on, adios.

Who's the phony bitch??

I guess it's me. I just noticed he has removed me as a friend on Facebook.

Bummer. I hope he comes back. I always enjoyed his posts.

Expecting Hurricane Irene to pass over my head here on long Island late Saturday night and Sunday. Much of island barrier coast and some low level south shore Long island communities under mandatory evacuation already. I am about 1/2 mile from expected flood plain of the 8-10 foot wave surge expected. What protects me mostly,is the elevated Long Island Railroad which is built on a 25 foot abutment above ground (acting as a levee).
Though in town itself, various under passes can give access to water to this,If the water reaches this,then next month I put the sale sign up on the house. I really dont think it will get that far. (Famous last words).
The winds could be another story-as I am in a part of town called "The Wantagh Woods"
area. Most properties have anywhere from 10-20 oak,elm trees on property.Planted in 1950,some are 50-70 feet high now.
Many old and top heavy-I had a few cut down over the past few years for a variety of reasons,but they fall non-the-less across the streets here taking out power lines.

Expecting to lose power and phones by Sunday. If they remain on, its a miracle.
Other than that-playing it cool and riding it out. After all-we made it through a 5.9 earthquake this week.

Heard in passing: The earthquake here passed through Virginia,Washington DC and up and down the coastline. Scientists are saying it happened on the Obama Fault line,but the
White House denied this claim saying that it happened on the Bush Fault Line.

Talk to you all sooner than later. Charlie

We'll be keeping you in our thoughts and prayers, Charlie! Stay safe, and let us know how you are doing!

CNorkusJr wrote::

Heard in passing: The earthquake here passed through Virginia,Washington DC and up and down the coastline. Scientists are saying it happened on the Obama Fault line,but the
White House denied this claim saying that it happened on the Bush Fault Line.

Talk to you all sooner than later. Charlie

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:3 1/2 years - 7000+ posts = 5 1/2 posts per day . . .

This has been a nice run, however, I won't tolerate a phony bitch.
Moving on, adios.

Who's the phony bitch??

I guess it's me. I just noticed he has removed me as a friend on Facebook.

Bummer. I hope he comes back. I always enjoyed his posts.

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Who's the phony bitch??

I guess it's me. I just noticed he has removed me as a friend on Facebook.

Bummer. I hope he comes back. I always enjoyed his posts.

I know I miss Rick too!~!!!!!

coach greg v wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote: I guess it's me. I just noticed he has removed me as a friend on Facebook.

Bummer. I hope he comes back. I always enjoyed his posts.

I know I miss Rick too!~!!!!!

> Frank were u at the oliveras arguello fight??? just got the dvd

In the 1970s, probably my two favorite West Coast fighters were Armando Muniz and Ruben Olivares. When Olivares fought Arguello, one of my friends, James Martinez, was on the undercard v. Carlos Zarate. Pat O'Grady took Martinez out to LA for the fight.

I remember going by the ticket office the day before the fight, and Mrs. O'Grady was just getting off the phone. She told me she'd just talked to Pat and he said to tell me that "your favorite fighter is going to get his ass whipped tomorrow night." She said that Pat had seen Arguello working out and Pat was sure he was going to stop Olivares. "No way," I thought, but O'Grady was right.

When Pat got back to Oklahoma City, all he could do was rave about Arguello. I remember him saying that "This kid is one of the best natural punchers I've ever seen. He's gonna stay champion for a long time." And again, he was right.

RIP Alexis Arguello!

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:

kikibalt wrote:Thanks for the U.K. boxing news Bennie....

When are you coming over, Frankie? Have you ever been to Europe?

Never on both....Never had a Passport in my life....other than going to T.J. I have never been out of the U.S.... :P

Just tell them you know me and they will let you in. DD

coach greg v wrote:

coach greg v wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

I know I miss Rick too!~!!!!!

> Frank were u at the oliveras arguello fight??? just got the dvd

Nope, Don't remember why not, but I might have been out of town...

bennie wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote: When are you coming over, Frankie? Have you ever been to Europe?

Never on both....Never had a Passport in my life....other than going to T.J. I have never been out of the U.S.... :P

Just tell them you know me and they will let you in. DD

They won't call me a wetback??...

raylawpc wrote:In the 1970s, probably my two favorite West Coast fighters were Armando Muniz and Ruben Olivares. When Olivares fought Arguello, one of my friends, James Martinez, was on the undercard v. Carlos Zarate. Pat O'Grady took Martinez out to LA for the fight.

I remember going by the ticket office the day before the fight, and Mrs. O'Grady was just getting off the phone. She told me she'd just talked to Pat and he said to tell me that "your favorite fighter is going to get his ass whipped tomorrow night." She said that Pat had seen Arguello working out and Pat was sure he was going to stop Olivares. "No way," I thought, but O'Grady was right.

When Pat got back to Oklahoma City, all he could do was rave about Arguello. I remember him saying that "This kid is one of the best natural punchers I've ever seen. He's gonna stay champion for a long time." And again, he was right.

RIP Alexis Arguello!

Alexis Arguello was a monster in the ring. I remember the time we were offered 35k for an Alexis/Frankie fight, Jackie McCoy and I talked it over. We decided that Frankie wasn't ready for AA at that point, hell, Frankie would probably never be ready for AA at any point. But we didn't want to say no and maybe close the door for future fights. We decided to out price ourselves by asking for 75k and hoping we would be turned down, which we were. Ruben Castillo took the fight and got his ass handed to him...AA was a very strong fighter, great power, but was not a good boxer, Frankie by far was the better boxer/technician, but I don't think he had the fire power or was strong enough to hang with AA.

I am a firm believer in picking the right fight. If you're going to pick a fight, pick one that you think you're going to win...or at least have a 50-50 chance of winning, and in this case Frankie imo didn't have a 50-50 chance of winning...

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:In the 1970s, probably my two favorite West Coast fighters were Armando Muniz and Ruben Olivares. When Olivares fought Arguello, one of my friends, James Martinez, was on the undercard v. Carlos Zarate. Pat O'Grady took Martinez out to LA for the fight.

I remember going by the ticket office the day before the fight, and Mrs. O'Grady was just getting off the phone. She told me she'd just talked to Pat and he said to tell me that "your favorite fighter is going to get his ass whipped tomorrow night." She said that Pat had seen Arguello working out and Pat was sure he was going to stop Olivares. "No way," I thought, but O'Grady was right.

When Pat got back to Oklahoma City, all he could do was rave about Arguello. I remember him saying that "This kid is one of the best natural punchers I've ever seen. He's gonna stay champion for a long time." And again, he was right.

RIP Alexis Arguello!

Alexis Arguello was a monster in the ring. I remember the time we were offered 35k for an Alexis/Frankie fight, Jackie McCoy and I talked it over. We decided that Frankie wasn't ready for AA at that point, hell, Frankie would probably never be ready for AA at any point. But we didn't want to say no and maybe close the door for future fights. We decided to out price ourselves by asking for 75k and hoping we would be turned down, which we were. Ruben Castillo took the fight and got his ass handed to him...AA was a very strong fighter, great power, but was not a good boxer, Frankie by far was the better boxer/technician, but I don't think he had the fire power or was strong enough to hang with AA.

I am a firm believer in picking the right fight. If you're going to pick a fight, pick one that you think you're going to win...or at least have a 50-50 chance of winning, and in this case Frankie imo didn't have a 50-50 chance of winning...

That was probably a good decision, but $35,000 had to be hard to turn down.

Did you see the Arguello-Olivares fight? James Martinez fought on the undercard against Carlos Zarate. Do you remember that fight? Jimmy was a sweet fighter, but couldn't break an egg.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:In the 1970s, probably my two favorite West Coast fighters were Armando Muniz and Ruben Olivares. When Olivares fought Arguello, one of my friends, James Martinez, was on the undercard v. Carlos Zarate. Pat O'Grady took Martinez out to LA for the fight.

I remember going by the ticket office the day before the fight, and Mrs. O'Grady was just getting off the phone. She told me she'd just talked to Pat and he said to tell me that "your favorite fighter is going to get his ass whipped tomorrow night." She said that Pat had seen Arguello working out and Pat was sure he was going to stop Olivares. "No way," I thought, but O'Grady was right.

When Pat got back to Oklahoma City, all he could do was rave about Arguello. I remember him saying that "This kid is one of the best natural punchers I've ever seen. He's gonna stay champion for a long time." And again, he was right.

RIP Alexis Arguello!

Alexis Arguello was a monster in the ring. I remember the time we were offered 35k for an Alexis/Frankie fight, Jackie McCoy and I talked it over. We decided that Frankie wasn't ready for AA at that point, hell, Frankie would probably never be ready for AA at any point. But we didn't want to say no and maybe close the door for future fights. We decided to out price ourselves by asking for 75k and hoping we would be turned down, which we were. Ruben Castillo took the fight and got his ass handed to him...AA was a very strong fighter, great power, but was not a good boxer, Frankie by far was the better boxer/technician, but I don't think he had the fire power or was strong enough to hang with AA.

I am a firm believer in picking the right fight. If you're going to pick a fight, pick one that you think you're going to win...or at least have a 50-50 chance of winning, and in this case Frankie imo didn't have a 50-50 chance of winning...

That was probably a good decision, but $35,000 had to be hard to turn down.

Did you see the Arguello-Olivares fight? James Martinez fought on the undercard against Carlos Zarate. Do you remember that fight? Jimmy was a sweet fighter, but couldn't break an egg.

Yeah! 35G's was hard to turn down, but Frankie was able to fight another day...

Nope, Don't remember why not, but I might have been out of town...

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Alexis Arguello was a monster in the ring. I remember the time we were offered 35k for an Alexis/Frankie fight, Jackie McCoy and I talked it over. We decided that Frankie wasn't ready for AA at that point, hell, Frankie would probably never be ready for AA at any point. But we didn't want to say no and maybe close the door for future fights. We decided to out price ourselves by asking for 75k and hoping we would be turned down, which we were. Ruben Castillo took the fight and got his ass handed to him...AA was a very strong fighter, great power, but was not a good boxer, Frankie by far was the better boxer/technician, but I don't think he had the fire power or was strong enough to hang with AA.

I am a firm believer in picking the right fight. If you're going to pick a fight, pick one that you think you're going to win...or at least have a 50-50 chance of winning, and in this case Frankie imo didn't have a 50-50 chance of winning...

That was probably a good decision, but $35,000 had to be hard to turn down.

Did you see the Arguello-Olivares fight? James Martinez fought on the undercard against Carlos Zarate. Do you remember that fight? Jimmy was a sweet fighter, but couldn't break an egg.

Yeah! 35G's was hard to turn down, but Frankie was able to fight another day...

Nope, Don't remember why not, but I might have been out of town...

> I just got that dvd of AAvs Olivares very very hard fight...

coach greg v wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote: That was probably a good decision, but $35,000 had to be hard to turn down.

Did you see the Arguello-Olivares fight? James Martinez fought on the undercard against Carlos Zarate. Do you remember that fight? Jimmy was a sweet fighter, but couldn't break an egg.

Yeah! 35G's was hard to turn down, but Frankie was able to fight another day...

Nope, Don't remember why not, but I might have been out of town...

> I just got that dvd of AAvs Olivares very very hard fight...

It's been years since I've seen it. As I recall, Olivares appeared in control until Arguello landed that cracker of a left hook in the 13th. Olivares couldn't recover from that.

As I recall, Olivares appeared to have Arguello in serious trouble in the 12th. I've often wondered if Arguello was genuinely hurt or playing possum because, if memory serves, Olivares really came out swinging in the 13th, and, with Olivares perhaps overanxious, Arguello set him up for that beautiful left.

Too bad we're not all in Alaska, and we could watch it together and see if my memory is any good!

raylawpc wrote:

coach greg v wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Yeah! 35G's was hard to turn down, but Frankie was able to fight another day...

Nope, Don't remember why not, but I might have been out of town...

> I just got that dvd of AAvs Olivares very very hard fight...

It's been years since I've seen it. As I recall, Olivares appeared in control until Arguello landed that cracker of a left hook in the 13th. Olivares couldn't recover from that.

As I recall, Olivares appeared to have Arguello in serious trouble in the 12th. I've often wondered if Arguello was genuinely hurt or playing possum because, if memory serves, Olivares really came out swinging in the 13th, and, with Olivares perhaps overanxious, Arguello set him up for that beautiful left.

Too bad we're not all in Alaska, and we could watch it together and see if my memory is any good!

>He made mincemeat of the legend in the 13th round, It was hard to watch...

CATHOLIC PARROTS


A lady goes to her priest one day and tells him,

'Father, I have a problem.

I have two female parrots,

but they only know how to say one thing.'

'What do they say?' the priest inquired.

They say,

'Hi, we're hookers!

Do you want to have some fun?'

That's obscene!' the priest exclaimed,

then he thought for a moment.

'You know,' he said,

'I may have a solution to your problem.

I have two male talking parrots,

which I have taught to pray and read the Bible.

Bring your two parrots over to my house,

and we'll put them in the cage with Francis and Peter.

My parrots can teach your parrots to praise and worship,

and your parrots are sure to stop saying . .

that phrase . .. in no time.'

Thank you,' the woman responded,

'this may very well be the solution.'

The next day,

she brought her female parrots to the priest's house.

As he ushered her in,

she saw that his two male parrots

were inside their cage holding rosary beads and praying.

Impressed,

she walked over and placed her parrots in with them.

After a few minutes,

the female parrots cried out in unison:

Hi, we're hookers!

Do you want to have some fun?'

There was stunned silence.

Shocked,

one male parrot looked over at the other male parrot

and exclaimed,

'Put the beads away, Ralph

Our prayers have been answered!'

kikibalt wrote:CATHOLIC PARROTS


A lady goes to her priest one day and tells him,

'Father, I have a problem.

I have two female parrots,

but they only know how to say one thing.'

'What do they say?' the priest inquired.

They say,

'Hi, we're hookers!

Do you want to have some fun?'

That's obscene!' the priest exclaimed,

then he thought for a moment.

'You know,' he said,

'I may have a solution to your problem.

I have two male talking parrots,

which I have taught to pray and read the Bible.

Bring your two parrots over to my house,

and we'll put them in the cage with Francis and Peter.

My parrots can teach your parrots to praise and worship,

and your parrots are sure to stop saying . .

that phrase . .. in no time.'

Thank you,' the woman responded,

'this may very well be the solution.'

The next day,

she brought her female parrots to the priest's house.

As he ushered her in,

she saw that his two male parrots

were inside their cage holding rosary beads and praying.

Impressed,

she walked over and placed her parrots in with them.

After a few minutes,

the female parrots cried out in unison:

Hi, we're hookers!

Do you want to have some fun?'

There was stunned silence.

Shocked,

one male parrot looked over at the other male parrot

and exclaimed,

'Put the beads away, Ralph

Our prayers have been answered!'

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:In the 1970s, probably my two favorite West Coast fighters were Armando Muniz and Ruben Olivares. When Olivares fought Arguello, one of my friends, James Martinez, was on the undercard v. Carlos Zarate. Pat O'Grady took Martinez out to LA for the fight.

I remember going by the ticket office the day before the fight, and Mrs. O'Grady was just getting off the phone. She told me she'd just talked to Pat and he said to tell me that "your favorite fighter is going to get his ass whipped tomorrow night." She said that Pat had seen Arguello working out and Pat was sure he was going to stop Olivares. "No way," I thought, but O'Grady was right.

When Pat got back to Oklahoma City, all he could do was rave about Arguello. I remember him saying that "This kid is one of the best natural punchers I've ever seen. He's gonna stay champion for a long time." And again, he was right.

RIP Alexis Arguello!

Alexis Arguello was a monster in the ring. I remember the time we were offered 35k for an Alexis/Frankie fight, Jackie McCoy and I talked it over. We decided that Frankie wasn't ready for AA at that point, hell, Frankie would probably never be ready for AA at any point. But we didn't want to say no and maybe close the door for future fights. We decided to out price ourselves by asking for 75k and hoping we would be turned down, which we were. Ruben Castillo took the fight and got his ass handed to him...AA was a very strong fighter, great power, but was not a good boxer, Frankie by far was the better boxer/technician, but I don't think he had the fire power or was strong enough to hang with AA.

I am a firm believer in picking the right fight. If you're going to pick a fight, pick one that you think you're going to win...or at least have a 50-50 chance of winning, and in this case Frankie imo didn't have a 50-50 chance of winning...

Frank, the fact that you didn't take that fight, and the money, says a lot about the kind of man, manager and father you are. A lesser man might have opted for the money and risked their son's health. Hell. it doesn't even have to be a son, lots of managers risk their fighters health for a big payday.

On one hand we don't want our fighters, at any level, to be mollycoddled but neither do we want them thrown to the wolves. It's a fine line and takes a perceptive manager to know the difference. No amount of money is worth a fighters health, or his life. This is why you have our respect. I say this with all sincerity.

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:In the 1970s, probably my two favorite West Coast fighters were Armando Muniz and Ruben Olivares. When Olivares fought Arguello, one of my friends, James Martinez, was on the undercard v. Carlos Zarate. Pat O'Grady took Martinez out to LA for the fight.

I remember going by the ticket office the day before the fight, and Mrs. O'Grady was just getting off the phone. She told me she'd just talked to Pat and he said to tell me that "your favorite fighter is going to get his ass whipped tomorrow night." She said that Pat had seen Arguello working out and Pat was sure he was going to stop Olivares. "No way," I thought, but O'Grady was right.

When Pat got back to Oklahoma City, all he could do was rave about Arguello. I remember him saying that "This kid is one of the best natural punchers I've ever seen. He's gonna stay champion for a long time." And again, he was right.

RIP Alexis Arguello!

Alexis Arguello was a monster in the ring. I remember the time we were offered 35k for an Alexis/Frankie fight, Jackie McCoy and I talked it over. We decided that Frankie wasn't ready for AA at that point, hell, Frankie would probably never be ready for AA at any point. But we didn't want to say no and maybe close the door for future fights. We decided to out price ourselves by asking for 75k and hoping we would be turned down, which we were. Ruben Castillo took the fight and got his ass handed to him...AA was a very strong fighter, great power, but was not a good boxer, Frankie by far was the better boxer/technician, but I don't think he had the fire power or was strong enough to hang with AA.

I am a firm believer in picking the right fight. If you're going to pick a fight, pick one that you think you're going to win...or at least have a 50-50 chance of winning, and in this case Frankie imo didn't have a 50-50 chance of winning...

Frank, the fact that you didn't take that fight, and the money, says a lot about the kind of man, manager and father you are. A lesser man might have opted for the money and risked their son's health. Hell. it doesn't even have to be a son, lots of managers risk their fighters health for a big payday.

On one hand we don't want our fighters, at any level, to be mollycoddled but neither do we want them thrown to the wolves. It's a fine line and takes a perceptive manager to know the difference. No amount of money is worth a fighters health, or his life. This is why you have our respect. I say this with all sincerity.

Absolutely. Well put, Randy.

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:In the 1970s, probably my two favorite West Coast fighters were Armando Muniz and Ruben Olivares. When Olivares fought Arguello, one of my friends, James Martinez, was on the undercard v. Carlos Zarate. Pat O'Grady took Martinez out to LA for the fight.

I remember going by the ticket office the day before the fight, and Mrs. O'Grady was just getting off the phone. She told me she'd just talked to Pat and he said to tell me that "your favorite fighter is going to get his ass whipped tomorrow night." She said that Pat had seen Arguello working out and Pat was sure he was going to stop Olivares. "No way," I thought, but O'Grady was right.

When Pat got back to Oklahoma City, all he could do was rave about Arguello. I remember him saying that "This kid is one of the best natural punchers I've ever seen. He's gonna stay champion for a long time." And again, he was right.

RIP Alexis Arguello!

Alexis Arguello was a monster in the ring. I remember the time we were offered 35k for an Alexis/Frankie fight, Jackie McCoy and I talked it over. We decided that Frankie wasn't ready for AA at that point, hell, Frankie would probably never be ready for AA at any point. But we didn't want to say no and maybe close the door for future fights. We decided to out price ourselves by asking for 75k and hoping we would be turned down, which we were. Ruben Castillo took the fight and got his ass handed to him...AA was a very strong fighter, great power, but was not a good boxer, Frankie by far was the better boxer/technician, but I don't think he had the fire power or was strong enough to hang with AA.

I am a firm believer in picking the right fight. If you're going to pick a fight, pick one that you think you're going to win...or at least have a 50-50 chance of winning, and in this case Frankie imo didn't have a 50-50 chance of winning...

Frank, the fact that you didn't take that fight, and the money, says a lot about the kind of man, manager and father you are. A lesser man might have opted for the money and risked their son's health. Hell. it doesn't even have to be a son, lots of managers risk their fighters health for a big payday.

On one hand we don't want our fighters, at any level, to be mollycoddled but neither do we want them thrown to the wolves. It's a fine line and takes a perceptive manager to know the difference. No amount of money is worth a fighters health, or his life. This is why you have our respect. I say this with all sincerity.

Randy, thank you mucho for your kind words....

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Alexis Arguello was a monster in the ring. I remember the time we were offered 35k for an Alexis/Frankie fight, Jackie McCoy and I talked it over. We decided that Frankie wasn't ready for AA at that point, hell, Frankie would probably never be ready for AA at any point. But we didn't want to say no and maybe close the door for future fights. We decided to out price ourselves by asking for 75k and hoping we would be turned down, which we were. Ruben Castillo took the fight and got his ass handed to him...AA was a very strong fighter, great power, but was not a good boxer, Frankie by far was the better boxer/technician, but I don't think he had the fire power or was strong enough to hang with AA.

I am a firm believer in picking the right fight. If you're going to pick a fight, pick one that you think you're going to win...or at least have a 50-50 chance of winning, and in this case Frankie imo didn't have a 50-50 chance of winning...

Frank, the fact that you didn't take that fight, and the money, says a lot about the kind of man, manager and father you are. A lesser man might have opted for the money and risked their son's health. Hell. it doesn't even have to be a son, lots of managers risk their fighters health for a big payday.

On one hand we don't want our fighters, at any level, to be mollycoddled but neither do we want them thrown to the wolves. It's a fine line and takes a perceptive manager to know the difference. No amount of money is worth a fighters health, or his life. This is why you have our respect. I say this with all sincerity.

Randy, thank you mucho for your kind words....

Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing. Abraham Lincoln

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote: Frank, the fact that you didn't take that fight, and the money, says a lot about the kind of man, manager and father you are. A lesser man might have opted for the money and risked their son's health. Hell. it doesn't even have to be a son, lots of managers risk their fighters health for a big payday.

On one hand we don't want our fighters, at any level, to be mollycoddled but neither do we want them thrown to the wolves. It's a fine line and takes a perceptive manager to know the difference. No amount of money is worth a fighters health, or his life. This is why you have our respect. I say this with all sincerity.

Randy, thank you mucho for your kind words....

Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing. Abraham Lincoln

Great quote Randy, thanks..

Rick Farris (L)vs. Gabe Gutierrez
1970 Diamond Belt Bantamweight Championship-Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles