Good to see you back and swinging away, Rick!!Rick Farris wrote:Contributing to Crap . . .
That's what I'll be doing tonight. Usually it's easy to avoid a match between two fighters I don't care for, I just don't watch. However, there are things on the line tonight and I don't want to speak out on an event that I didn't see in real time. So I'll buy the fight, and invite a couple pals over to watch.
I don't like Floyd Mayweather because he does not represent anything good in my mind.
I feel the same about Victor Ortiz. I'm not responsible for how they were raised. I have known to many boxers who started their lives in worse places than either Floyd of Victor but that had a lot of class. They did not burn $100 bills on camera while others are starving. They didn't use foul language to make their point. They did not quit when the going got rough, and they did not cry like infants when they lost.
I'm buying a fight to watch Floyd Mayweather, a talented (but boring) world champ embarrass a guy who has already embarrassed himself by saying "No Mas" when he could not finish off a game opponent. Victor is Latino, and I learned long ago that the hallmark of Latino fghters is a huge heart and fighting spirit second to none. Mexican Nationals or Mexican-American makes no difference, that spirit is engrained in them. I saw the greats, the greats from both above and below the border, just like the rest of you who post here. Victor Ortiz is a little different. He isn't the first boxer to "think about" quitting, but he's the first I ever saw do it so blantantly, not to mention shamelessly. He stamped himself "Bad Goods" in my book. That stamp is permanent.
I want Floyd to win hoping I'll likely get a chance to see him get his ass handed to him by the world's best contemporary champion, Manny Pacquiao. So tonight I'll buy the fight, and tomorrow I can join in when all my CAWCB buddies are discussing it. For the record, my predictions usually suck, however I'm going with Floyd in a one sided fight that goes the distance. If he'll take the offensive he might stop Victor. I don't expect Ortiz to "Quit" because Floyd is not a damaging puncher. If the temperature in the ring gets to hot for Ortiz, I'm sure he'll not cry "No Mas!" but instead pick out a soft spot on the canvas where he can lay down for about a dozen seconds.
All-in-all, this will not be an exciting match. Just a conclusive result. My opinion.
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Saul "Canelo" Alvarez and Alfonso Gomez will be fighting on the undercard (sort of) tonight. Alvarez vs Gomez will take place at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. Their fight is the main event at that sight but on the HBO PPV their fight will be on the undercard, so to speak. I think it will be a good fight.
I happen to like both of these guys, though I do think at this point in his career, regardless of his age, "Canelo" is a bit overrated and over protected, but that's not his fault (yet). He still needs a lot of work, especially on defense but that should come with time.
Gomez is a guy you just can't help but like. I mean, how can you not root for Gomez? Now here is a guy that, more than anyone else, has made the most of his appearance on NBC's boxing reality show, "The Contender", a few years back, and here is a guy that could have griped to Kingdom Come when, after beating Peter Manfredo Jr on the fair and square, he was forced to fight him a second time after another contestant left the show and Manfredo was called back. Manfredo won the second fight. If they ended their fights with one and one, why was Manfredo allowed to fight Sergio Mora for the Contender title? The fair and honest thing to do would have been to make it two out of three. Gomez got screwed. I'm not saying Gomez would have beaten Mora but I do think he's the one that should have been given the chance. I'm digressing, I know, but I had to get that off my chest.
Gomez to be fair, is a limited fighter and most likely would have languished in obscurity if not for the "Contender", but it's his huge heart that has made me and just about everyone else a fan. He's my kind of fighter. He's always plugging away, always trying, always giving a 100%. I'm hoping that somewhere along the line, maybe tonight, he'll have a "Rocky" like moment in his career. He's fought and beat a few good guys, like the late Arturo Gotti, though to be fair to Gotti, he was at the end of a great career. He never fought again. He's stepped into the ring with Miguel Cotto, Jesus Soto Karass and Jose Luis Castillo. Castillo, like Gotti, was caught at the end of his career. Gomez is a deserving guy.
That's not to say that Canelo isn't a deserving guy. Like Gomez, I think he has his limitations but with the backing this guy has, he might as well have won a gold medal. His career is moving along like a juggernaut against mediocre opponents and he is not quite 100% deserving of his place in the upper echelon of boxing, someday maybe, just not yet. Still, his future looks bright.
Tonight, I'm throwing common sense, logic and conventional wisdom out the window and I'm going with my heart. It seems like the right thing to do! I'll be rooting for Gomez.
I happen to like both of these guys, though I do think at this point in his career, regardless of his age, "Canelo" is a bit overrated and over protected, but that's not his fault (yet). He still needs a lot of work, especially on defense but that should come with time.
Gomez is a guy you just can't help but like. I mean, how can you not root for Gomez? Now here is a guy that, more than anyone else, has made the most of his appearance on NBC's boxing reality show, "The Contender", a few years back, and here is a guy that could have griped to Kingdom Come when, after beating Peter Manfredo Jr on the fair and square, he was forced to fight him a second time after another contestant left the show and Manfredo was called back. Manfredo won the second fight. If they ended their fights with one and one, why was Manfredo allowed to fight Sergio Mora for the Contender title? The fair and honest thing to do would have been to make it two out of three. Gomez got screwed. I'm not saying Gomez would have beaten Mora but I do think he's the one that should have been given the chance. I'm digressing, I know, but I had to get that off my chest.
Gomez to be fair, is a limited fighter and most likely would have languished in obscurity if not for the "Contender", but it's his huge heart that has made me and just about everyone else a fan. He's my kind of fighter. He's always plugging away, always trying, always giving a 100%. I'm hoping that somewhere along the line, maybe tonight, he'll have a "Rocky" like moment in his career. He's fought and beat a few good guys, like the late Arturo Gotti, though to be fair to Gotti, he was at the end of a great career. He never fought again. He's stepped into the ring with Miguel Cotto, Jesus Soto Karass and Jose Luis Castillo. Castillo, like Gotti, was caught at the end of his career. Gomez is a deserving guy.
That's not to say that Canelo isn't a deserving guy. Like Gomez, I think he has his limitations but with the backing this guy has, he might as well have won a gold medal. His career is moving along like a juggernaut against mediocre opponents and he is not quite 100% deserving of his place in the upper echelon of boxing, someday maybe, just not yet. Still, his future looks bright.
Tonight, I'm throwing common sense, logic and conventional wisdom out the window and I'm going with my heart. It seems like the right thing to do! I'll be rooting for Gomez.
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I acctually believe Ortiz can cause some trouble for Mayweather if Cortez lets him. Hatton gave Mayweather some grief and he was a naturaly smaller man, but Cortez imo did hinder Hatton a bit from working on the inside. But if i was to put money on it then Floyd by a comfortable ud.. that is the safest bet.
Im also hoping the Morales-Mathysse is a good fight.
Alvarez fight? i honestly dont care to much...
Im also hoping the Morales-Mathysse is a good fight.
Alvarez fight? i honestly dont care to much...
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Jeri and I ate at Taco Adobe recently. We had seen this small, cozy looking restaurant on Lemon Street, while looking through the antique shops at the Orange Circle, in the city of Orange and had been anticipating real southwestern comfort food. While the food is not bad, it wasn't what I expected. They call themselves a Southwestern restaurant but there is nothing southwestern about it. The food is Mexican, to be sure, but of a somewhat trendy or hip style. Not quite so commercial, like such restaurants as El Torito or Acapulco, just not exactly my style. Still, the place seems to be packing in the lunch crowd. So they must be doing something right.
Whenever the term "Southwestern" is used in a restaurant it usually denotes a style of cuisine pertaining to the Mexican American cooking of New Mexico and Arizona, or maybe more accurately, to the concept of "Southwestern Cuisine" as popularized by southwestern chef, Mark Miller.
Jeri had the green chicken enchilada, with rice and beans. The rice was more like a pilaf than a true Mexican or Spanish rice, and the beans were black beans. Black beans have their place in Mexican and other Latin cooking but there is no place for them in real, authentic southwestern cooking. The green chicken enchilada was made with something more akin to a salsa verde and made with tomatillos. An enchilada made, a la southwestern, would certainly be made with New Mexico chiles. I had tree soft tacos; one carne asada, one al pastor and one carnitas, and while they weren't bad they were nothing to write home about. The table salsa wasn't bad but it was too mild for me to eat with my tacos. They do have a "hotter" sauce but you have to ask for it. It was actually pretty good.
Now, it might be unfair, especially having recently returned from a vacation in New Mexico, and eating the real honest to goodness food of the southwest, to be so critical but I consider myself, if not an authority on southwestern and all forms of Mexican cooking, at the very least an avid aficionado and I just feel if you're going to call yourself a southwestern restaurant there should be some attempt, besides the name, at authenticity.
A better choice for a good Mexican meal in the area would be Jalapeno's on Glassell Street two blocks over. Their food is fantastic. A much better example of Southwestern restaurant that, while somewhat trendy, has at least remained true to it's southwestern roots is Chimayo's (as in Chimayo, New Mexico) in Newport Beach. The food there is really, really good.
My overall opinion is that Taco Adobe is a good restaurant that serves good food but it is just not my cup of tea.
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>well shut my mouth its rick.....howya doin buddy???Rick Farris wrote:Contributing to Crap . . .
That's what I'll be doing tonight. Usually it's easy to avoid a match between two fighters I don't care for, I just don't watch. However, there are things on the line tonight and I don't want to speak out on an event that I didn't see in real time. So I'll buy the fight, and invite a couple pals over to watch.
I don't like Floyd Mayweather because he does not represent anything good in my mind.
I feel the same about Victor Ortiz. I'm not responsible for how they were raised. I have known to many boxers who started their lives in worse places than either Floyd of Victor but that had a lot of class. They did not burn $100 bills on camera while others are starving. They didn't use foul language to make their point. They did not quit when the going got rough, and they did not cry like infants when they lost.
I'm buying a fight to watch Floyd Mayweather, a talented (but boring) world champ embarrass a guy who has already embarrassed himself by saying "No Mas" when he could not finish off a game opponent. Victor is Latino, and I learned long ago that the hallmark of Latino fghters is a huge heart and fighting spirit second to none. Mexican Nationals or Mexican-American makes no difference, that spirit is engrained in them. I saw the greats, the greats from both above and below the border, just like the rest of you who post here. Victor Ortiz is a little different. He isn't the first boxer to "think about" quitting, but he's the first I ever saw do it so blantantly, not to mention shamelessly. He stamped himself "Bad Goods" in my book. That stamp is permanent.
I want Floyd to win hoping I'll likely get a chance to see him get his ass handed to him by the world's best contemporary champion, Manny Pacquiao. So tonight I'll buy the fight, and tomorrow I can join in when all my CAWCB buddies are discussing it. For the record, my predictions usually suck, however I'm going with Floyd in a one sided fight that goes the distance. If he'll take the offensive he might stop Victor. I don't expect Ortiz to "Quit" because Floyd is not a damaging puncher. If the temperature in the ring gets to hot for Ortiz, I'm sure he'll not cry "No Mas!" but instead pick out a soft spot on the canvas where he can lay down for about a dozen seconds.
All-in-all, this will not be an exciting match. Just a conclusive result. My opinion.
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> I told you canelo was the one the money people want and he got it!!!!!!coach greg v wrote:>well shut my mouth its rick.....howya doin buddy???Rick Farris wrote:Contributing to Crap . . .
That's what I'll be doing tonight. Usually it's easy to avoid a match between two fighters I don't care for, I just don't watch. However, there are things on the line tonight and I don't want to speak out on an event that I didn't see in real time. So I'll buy the fight, and invite a couple pals over to watch.
I don't like Floyd Mayweather because he does not represent anything good in my mind.
I feel the same about Victor Ortiz. I'm not responsible for how they were raised. I have known to many boxers who started their lives in worse places than either Floyd of Victor but that had a lot of class. They did not burn $100 bills on camera while others are starving. They didn't use foul language to make their point. They did not quit when the going got rough, and they did not cry like infants when they lost.
I'm buying a fight to watch Floyd Mayweather, a talented (but boring) world champ embarrass a guy who has already embarrassed himself by saying "No Mas" when he could not finish off a game opponent. Victor is Latino, and I learned long ago that the hallmark of Latino fghters is a huge heart and fighting spirit second to none. Mexican Nationals or Mexican-American makes no difference, that spirit is engrained in them. I saw the greats, the greats from both above and below the border, just like the rest of you who post here. Victor Ortiz is a little different. He isn't the first boxer to "think about" quitting, but he's the first I ever saw do it so blantantly, not to mention shamelessly. He stamped himself "Bad Goods" in my book. That stamp is permanent.
I want Floyd to win hoping I'll likely get a chance to see him get his ass handed to him by the world's best contemporary champion, Manny Pacquiao. So tonight I'll buy the fight, and tomorrow I can join in when all my CAWCB buddies are discussing it. For the record, my predictions usually suck, however I'm going with Floyd in a one sided fight that goes the distance. If he'll take the offensive he might stop Victor. I don't expect Ortiz to "Quit" because Floyd is not a damaging puncher. If the temperature in the ring gets to hot for Ortiz, I'm sure he'll not cry "No Mas!" but instead pick out a soft spot on the canvas where he can lay down for about a dozen seconds.
All-in-all, this will not be an exciting match. Just a conclusive result. My opinion.
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Gomez
Congrats to Gomez for putting on great fight before being stopped by Alvarez.
Randy, I thought your boy Gomez was going to score an upset. He fought a great fight!
A good card so far. I hope Floyd doesn't end the show with a strangle-hold on the audience.
Floyd needs to step up and beat up the Ventura County covarde (Portugese
).
Congrats to Gomez for putting on great fight before being stopped by Alvarez.
Randy, I thought your boy Gomez was going to score an upset. He fought a great fight!
A good card so far. I hope Floyd doesn't end the show with a strangle-hold on the audience.
Floyd needs to step up and beat up the Ventura County covarde (Portugese
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Gomez was doing good. I don't know how the fight would have turned out or if Alvarez would have eventually stopped him but Gomez was blatantly robbed of his chance!! A bullsh*t stoppage!Rick Farris wrote:Gomez![]()
Congrats to Gomez for putting on great fight before being stopped by Alvarez.
Randy, I thought your boy Gomez was going to score an upset. He fought a great fight!
A good card so far. I hope Floyd doesn't end the show with a strangle-hold on the audience.
Floyd needs to step up and beat up the Ventura County covarde (Portugese).
I'm hoping for Ortiz to upset Mayweather.
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I'm hoping Mayweather knocks him unconcious. Ortiz a real punk, proven both in & out of the ring.Randyman wrote:Gomez was doing good. I don't know how the fight would have turned out or if Alvarez would have eventually stopped him but Gomez was blatantly robbed of his chance!! A bullsh*t stoppage!Rick Farris wrote:Gomez![]()
Congrats to Gomez for putting on great fight before being stopped by Alvarez.
Randy, I thought your boy Gomez was going to score an upset. He fought a great fight!
A good card so far. I hope Floyd doesn't end the show with a strangle-hold on the audience.
Floyd needs to step up and beat up the Ventura County covarde (Portugese).
I'm hoping for Ortiz to upset Mayweather.
Mayweather will get his from the greatest fighter on the planet, Manny Pacquiao.
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Ortiz got what he deserved after that head butt. No sympathy here!
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Beautiful, Floyd! . . .
F*ck Ortiz, the dirty bastid! Punked by a Punk!
Now on to his ass-whipping from the greatest champion in boxing today.
The bastid threw his head into Mayweather. Floyd's response was brilliant.
F*ck Ortiz, the dirty bastid! Punked by a Punk!
Now on to his ass-whipping from the greatest champion in boxing today.
The bastid threw his head into Mayweather. Floyd's response was brilliant.
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> I knew he was a punk!!!Rick Farris wrote:Beautiful, Floyd! . . .
F*ck Ortiz, the dirty bastid! Punked by a Punk!![]()
Now on to his ass-whipping from the greatest champion in boxing today.
The bastid threw his head into Mayweather. Floyd's response was brilliant.
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>Damn rick this place just got a whole lot more lively. set em up[ fellascoach greg v wrote:> I knew he was a punk!!!Rick Farris wrote:Beautiful, Floyd! . . .
F*ck Ortiz, the dirty bastid! Punked by a Punk!![]()
Now on to his ass-whipping from the greatest champion in boxing today.
The bastid threw his head into Mayweather. Floyd's response was brilliant.
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Two more sure things on the horizon for Pac= KO Mayweather, then KO Ortiz.
Ortiz the Art Aragon of today?![[icon_shame.gif] :shame:](./images/smilies/icon_shame.gif)
Ortiz the Art Aragon of today?
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I got the next round!coach greg v wrote:>Damn rick this place just got a whole lot more lively. set em up[ fellascoach greg v wrote:> I knew he was a punk!!!Rick Farris wrote:Beautiful, Floyd! . . .
F*ck Ortiz, the dirty bastid! Punked by a Punk!![]()
Now on to his ass-whipping from the greatest champion in boxing today.
The bastid threw his head into Mayweather. Floyd's response was brilliant.![]()
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Rick, regarding Ortiz, you'll get absolutely no argument from me. He actually tried to deny the f*cking foul. Yeah, the dirty bastid! We all knew what Mayweather was going to do, it was in his eyes. He administered his own justice. beautiful!Rick Farris wrote:Beautiful, Floyd! . . .
F*ck Ortiz, the dirty bastid! Punked by a Punk!![]()
Now on to his ass-whipping from the greatest champion in boxing today.
The bastid threw his head into Mayweather. Floyd's response was brilliant.
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I'm not so sure Pacquiao KO's Mayweather but we'll save that one for another day. ;;-)Rick Farris wrote:Two more sure things on the horizon for Pac= KO Mayweather, then KO Ortiz.
Ortiz the Art Aragon of today?
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Ortiz is a dumb shit.... He didnt even try to hide the headbutt.. Joe Cortez is a senile old shit that should retire..and Floyd Mayweather is just a plain old piece of shit... Larry Merchant is the guy that should be getting a title tonight 
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I agree with you Ram. Lots of shit here so lets throw Larry Merchant in the shit pile tooPanzerfaust wrote:Ortiz is a dumb shit.... He didnt even try to hide the headbutt.. Joe Cortez is a senile old shit that should retire..and Floyd Mayweather is just a plain old piece of shit... Larry Merchant is the guy that should be getting a title tonight
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A straight referee doesn't work or get good assignments.Panzerfaust wrote:Ortiz is a dumb shit.... He didnt even try to hide the headbutt.. Joe Cortez is a senile old shit that should retire..and Floyd Mayweather is just a plain old piece of shit... Larry Merchant is the guy that should be getting a title tonight
This bastid has been around forever.
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Classic.Panzerfaust wrote:
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First Floyd will have to man up and sign to fight the best fighter in boxing?Randyman wrote:I'm not so sure Pacquiao KO's Mayweather but we'll save that one for another day. ;;-)Rick Farris wrote:Two more sure things on the horizon for Pac= KO Mayweather, then KO Ortiz.
Ortiz the Art Aragon of today?
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>BOTH THOSE GUYS LOOKED AND ACTED LIKE A COUPLE OF CRANKSTER SPOILED BRATS...Rick Farris wrote:First Floyd will have to man up and sign to fight the best fighter in boxing?Randyman wrote:I'm not so sure Pacquiao KO's Mayweather but we'll save that one for another day. ;;-)Rick Farris wrote:Two more sure things on the horizon for Pac= KO Mayweather, then KO Ortiz.
Ortiz the Art Aragon of today?
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