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Sergio Martinez over rated . . .

I don't consider him third in talent behind Pac and Mayweather, Nonito Donaire is superior.
I know Martinez would benefit financially from a bout with either Pac or Floyd, but he wouldn't win.
Both Floyd or Pac would beat the crap out of him. But the fight should never happen.
Let the middleweight find a 160 pounder to embarrass him.
And when the going gets real rough, you won't see an Argentine boxer fight like a Mexican.
History validates this.

Big day today. my daughter's boyfriend, Josh, asked Jeri and I for our youngest daughter's (Savannah) hand in marriage. Of course we gave him our blessings. He proposed to her earlier tonight. She accepted. We could not have asked for a better young man for her.

I gotta tell you guys though. this is my baby. So you know how I feel!

Rick Farris wrote:

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Chicano style breakfast...bacon & eggs, tortillas & home cook potatoes

That salsa was the bomb!!

A meal after me own heart!! As my father, the late, great Andy De La O, used to say "It's the only way to eat". He was right!

You have had more than your share of that type food. I eat the crap as well, but not often.
Randy, let's not kid each other, our parents meant well but didn't know shit about nutrition.
You and I have a dream about one day opening an old school boxing gym.
I'd really like to do it, but I won't do it alone. I'm best as part of a team, won't do it for myself.
If you are old, fat, have a weak "ticker", etc. you won't enjoy it as much as if you are pro-active.
Eat healthy, workout regardless of hours employed. I'm currently working 7 days a week, 12-14 hours. I get up 30 min. early, stretch out, warm-up, sit-ups, push-ups, shadow box, light work with 2-3lb dumbells. When I step on a set, I'm wide awake, loose, ready to go. You need to get up 30 min. early, have Jeri fix you oatmeal, some toast on whole grain bread, a banana, coffee and O.J. With your breakfast you take a vitamin-mineral-amino acid supplement.

Didn't know I was eating crap. Gotta tell Connie not to make me any crap anymore...

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

Randyman wrote: A meal after me own heart!! As my father, the late, great Andy De La O, used to say "It's the only way to eat". He was right!

You have had more than your share of that type food. I eat the crap as well, but not often.
Randy, let's not kid each other, our parents meant well but didn't know shit about nutrition.
You and I have a dream about one day opening an old school boxing gym.
I'd really like to do it, but I won't do it alone. I'm best as part of a team, won't do it for myself.
If you are old, fat, have a weak "ticker", etc. you won't enjoy it as much as if you are pro-active.
Eat healthy, workout regardless of hours employed. I'm currently working 7 days a week, 12-14 hours. I get up 30 min. early, stretch out, warm-up, sit-ups, push-ups, shadow box, light work with 2-3lb dumbells. When I step on a set, I'm wide awake, loose, ready to go. You need to get up 30 min. early, have Jeri fix you oatmeal, some toast on whole grain bread, a banana, coffee and O.J. With your breakfast you take a vitamin-mineral-amino acid supplement.

Didn't know I was eating crap. Gotta tell Connie not to make me any crap anymore...

Frank, I didn't mean it like that. But it is what it is. When I hear somebody say "that's the only way to eat", I'm going to respond, "NOT!"

Randyman wrote:Big day today. my daughter's boyfriend, Josh, asked Jeri and I for our youngest daughter's (Savannah) hand in marriage. Of course we gave him our blessings. He proposed to her earlier tonight. She accepted. We could not have asked for a better young man for her.

I gotta tell you guys though. this is my baby. So you know how I feel!

Congratulations, Randy!

Randyman wrote:Big day today. my daughter's boyfriend, Josh, asked Jeri and I for our youngest daughter's (Savannah) hand in marriage. Of course we gave him our blessings. He proposed to her earlier tonight. She accepted. We could not have asked for a better young man for her.

I gotta tell you guys though. this is my baby. So you know how I feel!

Congrats!!

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:
You have had more than your share of that type food. I eat the crap as well, but not often.
Randy, let's not kid each other, our parents meant well but didn't know shit about nutrition.
You and I have a dream about one day opening an old school boxing gym.
I'd really like to do it, but I won't do it alone. I'm best as part of a team, won't do it for myself.
If you are old, fat, have a weak "ticker", etc. you won't enjoy it as much as if you are pro-active.
Eat healthy, workout regardless of hours employed. I'm currently working 7 days a week, 12-14 hours. I get up 30 min. early, stretch out, warm-up, sit-ups, push-ups, shadow box, light work with 2-3lb dumbells. When I step on a set, I'm wide awake, loose, ready to go. You need to get up 30 min. early, have Jeri fix you oatmeal, some toast on whole grain bread, a banana, coffee and O.J. With your breakfast you take a vitamin-mineral-amino acid supplement.

Didn't know I was eating crap. Gotta tell Connie not to make me any crap anymore...

Frank, I didn't mean it like that. But it is what it is. When I hear somebody say "that's the only way to eat", I'm going to respond, "NOT!"

> I am no one to preach but randy is right. If I listened to him I would not be sufferring today...

coach greg v wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Didn't know I was eating crap. Gotta tell Connie not to make me any crap anymore...

Frank, I didn't mean it like that. But it is what it is. When I hear somebody say "that's the only way to eat", I'm going to respond, "NOT!"

> I am no one to preach but randy is right. If I listened to him I would not be sufferring today...

>sorry rick I mean

Lucia Rijker's 2009 WBHOF Induction on YouTube . . .

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kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

Randyman wrote: A meal after me own heart!! As my father, the late, great Andy De La O, used to say "It's the only way to eat". He was right!

You have had more than your share of that type food. I eat the crap as well, but not often.
Randy, let's not kid each other, our parents meant well but didn't know shit about nutrition.
You and I have a dream about one day opening an old school boxing gym.
I'd really like to do it, but I won't do it alone. I'm best as part of a team, won't do it for myself.
If you are old, fat, have a weak "ticker", etc. you won't enjoy it as much as if you are pro-active.
Eat healthy, workout regardless of hours employed. I'm currently working 7 days a week, 12-14 hours. I get up 30 min. early, stretch out, warm-up, sit-ups, push-ups, shadow box, light work with 2-3lb dumbells. When I step on a set, I'm wide awake, loose, ready to go. You need to get up 30 min. early, have Jeri fix you oatmeal, some toast on whole grain bread, a banana, coffee and O.J. With your breakfast you take a vitamin-mineral-amino acid supplement.

Didn't know I was eating crap. Gotta tell Connie not to make me any crap anymore...

When I come out for the CBHOF banquet next year (if you have it), I hope you'll invite me out to your house so Connie can feed me some of that "crap!" I think it will go nicely as a chaser to that Manuel after I finish it off.

BTW, my grandfather lived to age 93 eating the Angelo version of such "crap." Bon appetite, Frank! Bon appetite!

I feel a need to stick up for my pal Rick here. I can say with 100% without a doubt that he was not insulting Connie's cooking but speaking in general terms about fried foods, high carb foods high salt content, sugar and all the other foods that we, if not totally ban from our diets, need to at least cut down. We all grew up with that type of cooking.

My own mother, who changed her way of cooking 30 years ago after my father died has constantly preached to me over the years about my eating habits. I tell her "Are you kidding me? You were my pusher. You're the one that got me addicted!" It's hard for Jeri to change too. Way back when we would save the bacon and chicken fat in the freezer for future use. We eliminated that years ago. We cut down on a lot of the fried foods, try to steam or saute our vegetables in olive oil and make changes where we can. Old habits die hard though. For old school eater like me, it's a life long battle.

For the most part, I have changed my way of eating, however at least once or twice a month I have to have me a regular hearty breakfast. But is Rick correct about the old eating habits that we all grew up on? He is 100% correct. I wish the hell he wasn't but he is. I slip every once in a while and sometimes it takes a friend to tell you the truth. That's what Rick was doing.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:
You have had more than your share of that type food. I eat the crap as well, but not often.
Randy, let's not kid each other, our parents meant well but didn't know shit about nutrition.
You and I have a dream about one day opening an old school boxing gym.
I'd really like to do it, but I won't do it alone. I'm best as part of a team, won't do it for myself.
If you are old, fat, have a weak "ticker", etc. you won't enjoy it as much as if you are pro-active.
Eat healthy, workout regardless of hours employed. I'm currently working 7 days a week, 12-14 hours. I get up 30 min. early, stretch out, warm-up, sit-ups, push-ups, shadow box, light work with 2-3lb dumbells. When I step on a set, I'm wide awake, loose, ready to go. You need to get up 30 min. early, have Jeri fix you oatmeal, some toast on whole grain bread, a banana, coffee and O.J. With your breakfast you take a vitamin-mineral-amino acid supplement.

Didn't know I was eating crap. Gotta tell Connie not to make me any crap anymore...

When I come out for the CBHOF banquet next year (if you have it), I hope you'll invite me out to your house so Connie can feed me some of that "crap!" I think it will go nicely as a chaser to that Manuel after I finish it off.

BTW, my grandfather lived to age 93 eating the Angelo version of such "crap." Bon appetite, Frank! Bon appetite!

Tom, hopefully if we see you next year you can enjoy some of Connie's cooking.

Randyman wrote:I feel a need to stick up for my pal Rick here. I can say with 100% without a doubt that he was not insulting Connie's cooking but speaking in general terms about fried foods, high carb foods high salt content, sugar and all the other foods that we, if not totally ban from our diets, need to at least cut down. We all grew up with that type of cooking.

My own mother, who changed her way of cooking 30 years ago after my father died has constantly preached to me over the years about my eating habits. I tell her "Are you kidding me? You were my pusher. You're the one that got me addicted!" It's hard for Jeri to change too. Way back when we would save the bacon and chicken fat in the freezer for future use. We eliminated that years ago. We cut down on a lot of the fried foods, try to steam or saute our vegetables in olive oil and make changes where we can. Old habits die hard though. For old school eater like me, it's a life long battle.

For the most part, I have changed my way of eating, however at least once or twice a month I have to have me a regular hearty breakfast. But is Rick correct about the old eating habits that we all grew up on? He is 100% correct. I wish the hell he wasn't but he is. I slip every once in a while and sometimes it takes a friend to tell you the truth. That's what Rick was doing.

Randy, you are right in that most of the old eating habit are not the healthiest. We too have done away with most of the old way of cooking, but now and then, as I did the day I posted those pictures, I eat more for my enjoyment then for my health, after all getting close to 75 years of age I feel I am entitled to say "the hell with this bland food, let me have something to satisfy my taste buds", I say that at least once a week, and when I do Connie will cook "crap" if you will, for me.

The above is the last I will say on Connie's cooking....let's get on to something else...

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote: Didn't know I was eating crap. Gotta tell Connie not to make me any crap anymore...

When I come out for the CBHOF banquet next year (if you have it), I hope you'll invite me out to your house so Connie can feed me some of that "crap!" I think it will go nicely as a chaser to that Manuel after I finish it off.

BTW, my grandfather lived to age 93 eating the Angelo version of such "crap." Bon appetite, Frank! Bon appetite!

Tom, hopefully if we see you next year you can enjoy some of Connie's cooking.

I will look forward to it!!

Idiot Tom has a stint in his heart and he's younger than me. Randy is a diabetic who is battling obesity and Frank has cancer. I'm older than all but Frank and have lived two life times. I eat right. Tom your a phony piece of mid west Shit that seems to have crawled up Frank's ass? Tom, teach the thread LA boxing? Randy, let me know how your eating habits have served you? Frank, I got nothing to say to you except enjoy Tom's LA history. After Manuel kicks his Midwest ass he can go fornicate himself!. What are you guys thinking????

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:I feel a need to stick up for my pal Rick here. I can say with 100% without a doubt that he was not insulting Connie's cooking but speaking in general terms about fried foods, high carb foods high salt content, sugar and all the other foods that we, if not totally ban from our diets, need to at least cut down. We all grew up with that type of cooking.

My own mother, who changed her way of cooking 30 years ago after my father died has constantly preached to me over the years about my eating habits. I tell her "Are you kidding me? You were my pusher. You're the one that got me addicted!" It's hard for Jeri to change too. Way back when we would save the bacon and chicken fat in the freezer for future use. We eliminated that years ago. We cut down on a lot of the fried foods, try to steam or saute our vegetables in olive oil and make changes where we can. Old habits die hard though. For old school eater like me, it's a life long battle.

For the most part, I have changed my way of eating, however at least once or twice a month I have to have me a regular hearty breakfast. But is Rick correct about the old eating habits that we all grew up on? He is 100% correct. I wish the hell he wasn't but he is. I slip every once in a while and sometimes it takes a friend to tell you the truth. That's what Rick was doing.

Randy, you are right in that most of the old eating habit are not the healthiest. We too have done away with most of the old way of cooking, but now and then, as I did the day I posted those pictures, I eat more for my enjoyment then for my health, after all getting close to 75 years of age I feel I am entitled to say "the hell with this bland food, let me have something to satisfy my taste buds", I say that at least once a week, and when I do Connie will cook "crap" if you will, for me.

The above is the last I will say on Connie's cooking....let's get on to something else...

Frank, you are exactly right! When I was in the hospital for my heart, I mentioned to my heart doctor: "Well, I guess this means no 'Manuel' in LA next year . . ." "What's a 'Manuel'?," asked the doc. When I told him, he said, "No, you can still eat things like that from time-to-time. Life's not worth living if you can't enjoy things like a 'Manuel' every now and then if you feel like it!!"

Needless to say, I really like my doctor!

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:I feel a need to stick up for my pal Rick here. I can say with 100% without a doubt that he was not insulting Connie's cooking but speaking in general terms about fried foods, high carb foods high salt content, sugar and all the other foods that we, if not totally ban from our diets, need to at least cut down. We all grew up with that type of cooking.

My own mother, who changed her way of cooking 30 years ago after my father died has constantly preached to me over the years about my eating habits. I tell her "Are you kidding me? You were my pusher. You're the one that got me addicted!" It's hard for Jeri to change too. Way back when we would save the bacon and chicken fat in the freezer for future use. We eliminated that years ago. We cut down on a lot of the fried foods, try to steam or saute our vegetables in olive oil and make changes where we can. Old habits die hard though. For old school eater like me, it's a life long battle.

For the most part, I have changed my way of eating, however at least once or twice a month I have to have me a regular hearty breakfast. But is Rick correct about the old eating habits that we all grew up on? He is 100% correct. I wish the hell he wasn't but he is. I slip every once in a while and sometimes it takes a friend to tell you the truth. That's what Rick was doing.

Randy, you are right in that most of the old eating habit are not the healthiest. We too have done away with most of the old way of cooking, but now and then, as I did the day I posted those pictures, I eat more for my enjoyment then for my health, after all getting close to 75 years of age I feel I am entitled to say "the hell with this bland food, let me have something to satisfy my taste buds", I say that at least once a week, and when I do Connie will cook "crap" if you will, for me.

The above is the last I will say on Connie's cooking....let's get on to something else...

Frank, you are exactly right! When I was in the hospital for my heart, I mentioned to my heart doctor: "Well, I guess this means no 'Manuel' in LA next year . . ." "What's a 'Manuel'?," asked the doc. When I told him, he said, "No, you can still eat things like that from time-to-time. Life's not worth living if you can't enjoy things like a 'Manuel' every now and then if you feel like it!!"

Needless to say, I really like my doctor!

I'm sorry I commented on the photo. It seems like everyone is upset. Never for meant that. let's move on.

Rick Farris wrote:Idiot Tom has a stint in his heart and he's younger than me. Randy is a diabetic who is battling obesity and Frank has cancer. I'm older than all but Frank and have lived two life times. I eat right. Tom your a phony piece of mid west Shit that seems to have crawled up Frank's ass? Tom, teach the thread LA boxing? Randy, let me know how your eating habits have served you? Frank, I got nothing to say to you except enjoy Tom's LA history. After Manuel kicks his Midwest ass he can go eff himself!. What are you guys thinking????

Why don't you get over yourself, Rick?!?

By the way, the Cardinals are in the playoff this year; Dodgers didn't make it. Just sayin'.

For the first time I was disappointed in Sergio Martinez. He didn't look like a world beater last night despite stopping Darren Barker in the 11th round. Still, anyone can have an off night. Barker gave him a tougher than expected fight. A fighter of Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather's caliber would have capitalized on Martinez' flaws. On another night? Who knows?

Randyman wrote:For the first time I was disappointed in Sergio Martinez. He didn't look like a world beater last night despite stopping Darren Barker in the 11th round. Still, anyone can have an off night. Barker gave him a tougher than expected fight. A fighter of Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather's caliber would have capitalized on Martinez'. On another night? Who knows?

I don't like the way he fight with his hands on his sides. I think that at times he is trying too hard look to cute up in that ring...

Randyman wrote:For the first time I was disappointed in Sergio Martinez. He didn't look like a world beater last night despite stopping Darren Barker in the 11th round. Still, anyone can have an off night. Barker gave him a tougher than expected fight. A fighter of Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather's caliber would have capitalized on Martinez'. On another night? Who knows?

Martinez is hard to read . . . He has such an unorthodox style. And he is a counter-puncher at heart, so he may have had problems because Barker seemed hesitant.

I think he'd have trouble with Mayweather, but I actually think a fight with Pac would be good because Pac would not be afraid to attack. I think Pac-Martinez would actually be an interesting fight.

Was it just me, or did it look to any of you like Barker might have laid down? The punch that stopped him didn't seem to have much on it. However, it was behind the ear, so maybe it messed up his balance or something . . .

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:For the first time I was disappointed in Sergio Martinez. He didn't look like a world beater last night despite stopping Darren Barker in the 11th round. Still, anyone can have an off night. Barker gave him a tougher than expected fight. A fighter of Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather's caliber would have capitalized on Martinez'. On another night? Who knows?

I don't like the way he fight with his hands on his sides. I think that at times he is trying too hard look to cute up in that ring...

I agree Frank, maybe he feels pressured to compete with the likes of Mayweather. Stick with what got you there. can't go wrong with that. I don't think he's designed to be a "Cutie pie".

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:For the first time I was disappointed in Sergio Martinez. He didn't look like a world beater last night despite stopping Darren Barker in the 11th round. Still, anyone can have an off night. Barker gave him a tougher than expected fight. A fighter of Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather's caliber would have capitalized on Martinez'. On another night? Who knows?

I don't like the way he fight with his hands on his sides. I think that at times he is trying too hard look to cute up in that ring...

Do you think he's trying to look cute, or is he trying to get them to lead so that he can counter? (Or maybe both . . . )

How about this new icon:

raylawpc wrote:

Randyman wrote:For the first time I was disappointed in Sergio Martinez. He didn't look like a world beater last night despite stopping Darren Barker in the 11th round. Still, anyone can have an off night. Barker gave him a tougher than expected fight. A fighter of Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather's caliber would have capitalized on Martinez'. On another night? Who knows?

Martinez is hard to read . . . He has such an unorthodox style. And he is a counter-puncher at heart, so he may have had problems because Barker seemed hesitant.

I think he'd have trouble with Mayweather, but I actually think a fight with Pac would be good because Pac would not be afraid to attack. I think Pac-Martinez would actually be an interesting fight.

Was it just me, or did it look to any of you like Barker might have laid down? The punch that stopped him didn't seem to have much on it. However, it was behind the ear, so maybe it messed up his balance or something . . .

I just think that the punches took their toll on him over the course of the fight. The last couple of punches might not have put him down on their own but I think he just had enough, physically.

raylawpc wrote:

Randyman wrote:For the first time I was disappointed in Sergio Martinez. He didn't look like a world beater last night despite stopping Darren Barker in the 11th round. Still, anyone can have an off night. Barker gave him a tougher than expected fight. A fighter of Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather's caliber would have capitalized on Martinez'. On another night? Who knows?

Martinez is hard to read . . . He has such an unorthodox style. And he is a counter-puncher at heart, so he may have had problems because Barker seemed hesitant.

I think he'd have trouble with Mayweather, but I actually think a fight with Pac would be good because Pac would not be afraid to attack. I think Pac-Martinez would actually be an interesting fight.

Was it just me, or did it look to any of you like Barker might have laid down? The punch that stopped him didn't seem to have much on it. However, it was behind the ear, so maybe it messed up his balance or something . . .

I think that it was more a accumulation of punches then that one last punch that did him in. But he'll be back to fight Chavez Jr. or Alvarez since he can't punch much, just the saved kind of guy that Chavez and Alvarez people will be looking for.