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Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:For the first time I was disappointed in Sergio Martinez. He didn't look like a world beater last night despite stopping Darren Barker in the 11th round. Still, anyone can have an off night. Barker gave him a tougher than expected fight. A fighter of Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather's caliber would have capitalized on Martinez'. On another night? Who knows?

I don't like the way he fight with his hands on his sides. I think that at times he is trying too hard look to cute up in that ring...

I agree Frank, maybe he feels pressured to compete with the likes of Mayweather. Stick with what got you there. can't go wrong with that. I don't think he's designed to be a "Cutie pie".

Good question and one I hadn't thought of. Both would be my guess but I think his lack of amateur experience comes through when he fights. He's a very strong fighter, very athletic and has great natural ability but he lacks many of the basic fundamentals of boxing. It's a testimony to his natural ability that he is the middleweight champion. Historically, the most storied division in boxing.

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:For the first time I was disappointed in Sergio Martinez. He didn't look like a world beater last night despite stopping Darren Barker in the 11th round. Still, anyone can have an off night. Barker gave him a tougher than expected fight. A fighter of Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather's caliber would have capitalized on Martinez'. On another night? Who knows?

I don't like the way he fight with his hands on his sides. I think that at times he is trying too hard look to cute up in that ring...

Do you think he's trying to look cute, or is he trying to get them to lead so that he can counter? (Or maybe both . . . )

How about this new icon:

Both I would say....I like this new dude

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote: I don't like the way he fight with his hands on his sides. I think that at times he is trying too hard look to cute up in that ring...

Do you think he's trying to look cute, or is he trying to get them to lead so that he can counter? (Or maybe both . . . )

How about this new icon:

Both I would say....I like this new dude

Me too!

Randyman wrote:

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote: I don't like the way he fight with his hands on his sides. I think that at times he is trying too hard look to cute up in that ring...

I agree Frank, maybe he feels pressured to compete with the likes of Mayweather. Stick with what got you there. can't go wrong with that. I don't think he's designed to be a "Cutie pie".

Good question and one I hadn't thought of. Both would be my guess but I think his lack of amateur experience comes through when he fights. He's a very strong fighter, very athletic and has great natural ability but he lacks many of the basic fundamentals of boxing. It's a testimony to his natural ability that he is the middleweight champion. Historically, the most storied division in boxing.

Like Tom said, he is a very unorthodox fighter, and also Like Randy said, lack of amateur experience, makes it hard for some of us that have seen the best of the best to figure him out, hell! I won't even try...

DWB

Back in the ‘50’s us chicano teenagers would get stopped by the Man for no reason other, that we were chicano's. I remember one Sunday in ‘54’s when Connie and I (before we got married) were cruising in Pico Viejo. As we cruise the barrio I had a black and white on my tail. I made a right turn, he made a right turn, I made a left turn, he made a left turn, all this while he is riding my rear bumper. I finally got tired of the cat and mouse game so I pulled over to the curb. He stopped right behind me, got out of his car and walked over to mine and asked me: “why did you pull over?”

“You were going to pull me over so I figure that the sooner we get it over with, the sooner my girlfriend and I can enjoy our cruising” I said to the Man

He turned around without saying another word and got back on his ride and left us sitting there dumbfounded.

Get over myself?,,You are why we lost a valued poster, Roger. You are the only problem that has brought it down. You think you can replace me? You fucked a lot of readers, but they will have somewhere else to go. Your white trash.
You have. rep for screwing up other Boxrec threads. When I establish another, know that if you post, you are not welcome. O'Graduates was a small timer in boxing history. What have you to contribute besides dissention. One last time- fornicate yourself

Rick Farris wrote:Get over myself?,,You are why we lost a valued poster, Roger. You are the only problem that has brought it down. You think you can replace me? You fucked a lot of readers, but they will have somewhere else to go. Your white trash.
You have. rep for screwing up other Boxrec threads. When I establish another, know that if you post, you are not welcome. O'Graduates was a small timer in boxing history. What have you to contribute besides dissention. One last time- eff yourself

Yeah, get over yourself. If you don't like what I write, put me on ignore. You aren't the hall monitor for the CAWCB thread. I'll post anything I want wherever I want.

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:

Randyman wrote:For the first time I was disappointed in Sergio Martinez. He didn't look like a world beater last night despite stopping Darren Barker in the 11th round. Still, anyone can have an off night. Barker gave him a tougher than expected fight. A fighter of Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather's caliber would have capitalized on Martinez'. On another night? Who knows?

Martinez is hard to read . . . He has such an unorthodox style. And he is a counter-puncher at heart, so he may have had problems because Barker seemed hesitant.

I think he'd have trouble with Mayweather, but I actually think a fight with Pac would be good because Pac would not be afraid to attack. I think Pac-Martinez would actually be an interesting fight.

Was it just me, or did it look to any of you like Barker might have laid down? The punch that stopped him didn't seem to have much on it. However, it was behind the ear, so maybe it messed up his balance or something . . .

I think that it was more a accumulation of punches then that one last punch that did him in. But he'll be back to fight Chavez Jr. or Alvarez since he can't punch much, just the saved kind of guy that Chavez and Alvarez people will be looking for.

Maybe Alvarez, but Becker still can fog a mirror, so he might be considered too dangerous for Chavez Jr. . . .

It's been awhile. I think I did this right. Anyway,I love you Rick. Ray,you're a piece of work. Ray,I won,t go back to this. see ya'.

Rick, Have you heard from Audie Aragon lately, I've been trying to find info on Art Aragon's fights from 1946 to 1947 in the Boston area while he was stationed in the Coast Guard, can anyone help?..

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Get over myself?,,You are why we lost a valued poster, Roger. You are the only problem that has brought it down. You think you can replace me? You fucked a lot of readers, but they will have somewhere else to go. Your white trash.
You have. rep for screwing up other Boxrec threads. When I establish another, know that if you post, you are not welcome. O'Graduates was a small timer in boxing history. What have you to contribute besides dissention. One last time- eff yourself

Yeah, get over yourself. If you don't like what I write, put me on ignore. You aren't the hall monitor for the CAWCB thread. I'll post anything I want wherever I want.

More words from the turd that floats in the CAWCB punch bowl.

Cholo wrote:Rick, Have you heard from Audie Araguon lately, I've been trying to find info on Art Aragon's fights from 1946 to 1947 in the InBoston area while he was stationed in the Coast Guard, can anyone help?..

I haven't seen him since June, Paul. I spoke with him about logging into this thread for some open questions from his father's fan something related to his life. I will redirect this idea to another thread, this one is polluted. The jerkoff won't be a part of it, I guarantee it.

raylawpc wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Get over myself?,,You are why we lost a valued poster, Roger. You are the only problem that has brought it down. You think you can replace me? You fucked a lot of readers, but they will have somewhere else to go. Your white trash.
You have. rep for screwing up other Boxrec threads. When I establish another, know that if you post, you are not welcome. O'Graduates was a small timer in boxing history. What have you to contribute besides dissention. One last time- eff yourself

Yeah, get over yourself. If you don't like what I write, put me on ignore. You aren't the hall monitor for the CAWCB thread. I'll post anything I want wherever I want.

Your presence and personality has cost this thread some of it's best posters, and that includes me. We'd rather move to another thread and thats what we well do. You can stay here with whoever cares to stay, but if you think you will be able to come into our thread and post just try it.

Rick Farris wrote:

Cholo wrote:Rick, Have you heard from Audie Araguon lately, I've been trying to find info on Art Aragon's fights from 1946 to 1947 in the InBoston area while he was stationed in the Coast Guard, can anyone help?..

I haven't seen him since June, Paul. I spoke with him about logging into this thread for some open questions from his father's fan something related to his life. I will redirect this idea to another thread, this one is polluted. The jerkoff won't be a part of it, I guarantee it.

Rick, Okay buddy..

Lauro Salas, the newly crowned lightweight champion, receives a kiss from his pretty wife,
Angelina, also a champion in the art of tamale-making, as a reward for having won the title
from Jimmy Carter after a grueling battle. Salas is shown reading George Main's account of
the battle in The Herald and Express.
May 15, 1952.

Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States

Jimmy Carter L Lauro Salas SD 15 15

Gerald Dreyer W Baby Ike PTS 6 6

Pete Aguirre W Ramon Carrillo PTS 4 4

Dino Burns L Richard Minjares PTS 4 4

Everett Vasquez W George Holmes PTS 4 4

Marcus Vasquez W Billy Herrera PTS 4 4

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=58&cat=boxer

kikibalt wrote:

Lauro Salas, the newly crowned lightweight champion, receives a kiss from his pretty wife,
Angelina, also a champion in the art of tamale-making, as a reward for having won the title
from Jimmy Carter after a grueling battle. Salas is shown reading George Main's account of
the battle in The Herald and Express.
May 15, 1952.

Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States

Jimmy Carter L Lauro Salas SD 15 15

Gerald Dreyer W Baby Ike PTS 6 6

Pete Aguirre W Ramon Carrillo PTS 4 4

Dino Burns L Richard Minjares PTS 4 4

Everett Vasquez W George Holmes PTS 4 4

Marcus Vasquez W Billy Herrera PTS 4 4

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=58&cat=boxer

Frank, Great shot of Salas..

Cholo wrote: Frank, Great shot of Salas..

Not a great fighter Salas, but always gave his all. Salas and Art "Golden Boy" Aragon were two of the most colorful boxers in the history of Los Angeles boxing.

Frank, did you see the Salas-Carter fight?

raylawpc wrote:Frank, did you see the Salas-Carter fight?

Yeah, Tom, I seen both of the Cater/Salas LA fights. Also seen Salas/Aragon fight, the one at the Olympic, wasn't lucky enough to have seen the one in the bar...

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:Frank, did you see the Salas-Carter fight?

Yeah, Tom, I seen both of the Cater/Salas LA fights. Also seen Salas/Aragon fight, the one at the Olympic, wasn't lucky enough to have seen the one in the bar...

What were your impressions of the Salas-Carter fights? You never read much about Salas these days. What did you think of him and his fights with Carter?

raylawpc wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:Frank, did you see the Salas-Carter fight?

Yeah, Tom, I seen both of the Cater/Salas LA fights. Also seen Salas/Aragon fight, the one at the Olympic, wasn't lucky enough to have seen the one in the bar...

What were your impressions of the Salas-Carter fights? You never read much about Salas these days. What did you think of him and his fights with Carter?

Tom, In 1952 Lauro Salas got his first title fight v Jimmy Carter after giving Art Aragon a terrific fight. Both at a Hollywood nite club and at the Olympic Auditorium, I have heard lots of different versions of the nite club fight, and all lean to Salas getting the best of Aragon, but who knows. The nite club fight was played big in the local media and the powers that be at the Olympic knew they had a sell-out fight on their hands, the only problem was that Salas was really too small for Aragon, But Salas being Salas said he would fight Art at any weight, not sure, but I thing Art came in at 137 and Salas under 135. It was a great-close action fight and the unanimous decision went to Art, it was a good decision. Soon after that the Olympic was looking for a suitable opponent for Jimmy Carter to defend his title against, well they didn’t have to look no further then Lauro Salas, the fight was made and in front if a near sell-out crowd Salas again out-Salas himself. In both the Aragon and first Carter fight Salas fought way beyond his usual self. After a great fight and every close fight, the decision went to Carter, but a rematch had to be made. This time after a great and close fight the decision went to Salas, again a good decision. I am happy to say I seen live all three of the above fights.

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kikibalt wrote:

Randyman wrote:Big day today. my daughter's boyfriend, Josh, asked Jeri and I for our youngest daughter's (Savannah) hand in marriage. Of course we gave him our blessings. He proposed to her earlier tonight. She accepted. We could not have asked for a better young man for her.

I gotta tell you guys though. this is my baby. So you know how I feel!

Congrats!!

Sorry I'm late- Congrats Randy.
If Josh makes Savannah Happy, and thats makes you and Jeri Happy- Then thats the way it should be. It was nice to hear you say that Josh asked you and Jeri for your Blessing first.
Sounds like a good start from a respectful young man.
May their eventual union bring many beautiful grandchildren.