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Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 12:40
by leforge
earsjohn wrote:
leforge wrote:
earsjohn wrote:Anyone got any idea how the 6 months for the price of 5 for Sky customers works? Do I get December free? Or maybe May 2012? It's not very clear.

I have, however, signed up. So long as you've got all of your details in front of you, it's pretty straight forward, but I can see a number of people being put off by having to set up a Paywizard account (in effect another Paypal type of service).

Ts and Cs state a minimum 6 month contract after which it automatically becomes a monthly rolling contract (which is a lot better than an automatic 6 month contract).
So your having to commit to 6 months without knowing the schedule. Lucklily its month by month from word go on Virgin. Don't see how this is going to get the numbers required to make it work.
If it starts falling apart after Jan / Feb, I'll just cancel my payment and let them chase me for their £10. If I'm in that position (ie that I want to cancel), Allegedly channel will have more pressing concerns than recouping my £10!
Don;t think you cancel thing you are committed for 6 months! Why not use direct debit mandate.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 12:49
by earsjohn
leforge wrote:
earsjohn wrote:
leforge wrote: So your having to commit to 6 months without knowing the schedule. Lucklily its month by month from word go on Virgin. Don't see how this is going to get the numbers required to make it work.
If it starts falling apart after Jan / Feb, I'll just cancel my payment and let them chase me for their £10. If I'm in that position (ie that I want to cancel), Allegedly channel will have more pressing concerns than recouping my £10!
Don;t think you cancel thing you are committed for 6 months! Why not use direct debit mandate.
No option for DD. I can cancel any payment that is instigated from my bank account.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 12:58
by leforge
earsjohn wrote:
leforge wrote:
earsjohn wrote: If it starts falling apart after Jan / Feb, I'll just cancel my payment and let them chase me for their £10. If I'm in that position (ie that I want to cancel), Allegedly channel will have more pressing concerns than recouping my £10!
Don;t think you cancel thing you are committed for 6 months! Why not use direct debit mandate.
No option for DD. I can cancel any payment that is instigated from my bank account.
This putting alot of people off on Eastside. Why leave so late to make an annoucement like this? For once Virgin is straight forward.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 14:18
by GaryG
I was going to subscribe but it looks like £50 upfront for Sky customers I cant justify paying that this time of year.
I thought the £10 s month seemed reasonable enough no wonder they didn't mention it was 6 months upfront.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 14:28
by earsjohn
GaryG wrote:I was going to subscribe but it looks like £50 upfront for Sky customers I cant justify paying that this time of year.
I thought the £10 s month seemed reasonable enough no wonder they didn't mention it was 6 months upfront.
I can confirm, as a Sky customer, that it is NOT £50 up front. I have signed up and £10 will be collected each month.

Exact wording from confirmation email:

"Account Summary

You have subscribed to our allegedly Monthly Subscription package.
Your monthly payment of £10 will be taken from your account on the 28th of each month.
To manage your payment details please log-in to your PayWizard account"

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 14:31
by Dioufy
You'll all be whinging in a few months. Friday mismatches, then a AM fight from the USA, probably of the same standard of Chavez/Manfredo and Cintron/Alvarez.

Good luck.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 14:53
by GaryG
earsjohn wrote:
GaryG wrote:I was going to subscribe but it looks like £50 upfront for Sky customers I cant justify paying that this time of year.
I thought the £10 s month seemed reasonable enough no wonder they didn't mention it was 6 months upfront.
I can confirm, as a Sky customer, that it is NOT £50 up front. I have signed up and £10 will be collected each month.

Exact wording from confirmation email:

"Account Summary

You have subscribed to our Allegedly channel Monthly Subscription package.
Your monthly payment of £10 will be taken from your account on the 28th of each month.
To manage your payment details please log-in to your PayWizard account"
All a bit confusing seems the facebook page didnt seem to know whats what
http://www.facebook.com/allegedly
Dave Wood
Why do we HAVE to pay 6 month's upfront? Can we not just pay per month?
Like · · 2 hours ago ·

allegedly Hi Dave, there's a fixed contract length of six months, so unfortunately you won't be able to pay month by month at this stage. Hope this answers your query
about an hour ago · Like

Dave Wood Yes it has, it's also answered my question on whether i'll be subscribing to allegedly because the whole PayWizard thing is just a mess on
about an hour ago · Like

Jayden Daytona This is a joke!
about an hour ago · Like · 1


allegedly Dave, just to clarify, payment will be taken on a monthly basis, for a term of six months minimum. Sorry for the confusion - we hope this makes sense now!
23 minutes ago · Like

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 15:01
by earsjohn
Dioufy wrote:You'll all be whinging in a few months. Friday mismatches, then a AM fight from the USA, probably of the same standard of Chavez/Manfredo and Cintron/Alvarez.

Good luck.
I reasoned that I'd rather be in a position to whinge about potentially crap fights I can see than be annoyed about potentially good fights I'm not seeing. At a maximum outlay of £50 over 6 months, it is an amount I can justify spending. I remain sceptical about whether the whole venture can be remotely successful, but I'll be along for the ride until we find out.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 15:07
by Dioufy
earsjohn wrote:
Dioufy wrote:You'll all be whinging in a few months. Friday mismatches, then a AM fight from the USA, probably of the same standard of Chavez/Manfredo and Cintron/Alvarez.

Good luck.
I reasoned that I'd rather be in a position to whinge about potentially crap fights I can see than be annoyed about potentially good fights I'm not seeing. At a maximum outlay of £50 over 6 months, it is an amount I can justify spending. I remain sceptical about whether the whole venture can be remotely successful, but I'll be along for the ride until we find out.
Good luck, and I hope BN do show great fights. But given who owns it, I'll stay away. In the past 2 years I have become accustomed to missing 'big fights' and as money is low at the money I'll gladly save my £60. I can't tell you how many times fish eyes has made me feel like a gang-rape victim.

It's past numerous.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 15:09
by iamasadlittleboy
earsjohn wrote:
leforge wrote:
earsjohn wrote:Anyone got any idea how the 6 months for the price of 5 for Sky customers works? Do I get December free? Or maybe May 2012? It's not very clear.

I have, however, signed up. So long as you've got all of your details in front of you, it's pretty straight forward, but I can see a number of people being put off by having to set up a Paywizard account (in effect another Paypal type of service).

Ts and Cs state a minimum 6 month contract after which it automatically becomes a monthly rolling contract (which is a lot better than an automatic 6 month contract).
So your having to commit to 6 months without knowing the schedule. Lucklily its month by month from word go on Virgin. Don't see how this is going to get the numbers required to make it work.
If it starts falling apart after Jan / Feb, I'll just cancel my payment and let them chase me for their £10. If I'm in that position (ie that I want to cancel), Allegedly channel will have more pressing concerns than recouping my £10!
I'll be holding off until at least February. They've got bugger all on in December apart form the stuff from December 3rd, January looks bare bones...they need to have fights lined up before everyone jumps on the bandwagon IMO

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 15:11
by Dioufy
So, according to Buncey, because I ain't paying for this am I not a "real boxing-fan"?

I took great exception to that.

:shame:

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 15:18
by EJW
Unfortunately, it's more BoxVillage than allegedly at the moment. Yes, us lot know about it - and a few of us may even do the good thing and pay for it - but who else does? Each time I tell somebody 'so and so is fighting on allegedly' it's as if I've asked them to explain the meaning of 2001 in 12 words. That doesn't exactly bode well :-?

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 15:29
by iamasadlittleboy
EJW wrote:Unfortunately, it's more BoxVillage than Allegedly channel at the moment. Yes, us lot know about it - and a few of us may even do the good thing and pay for it - but who else does? Each time I tell somebody 'so and so is fighting on Allegedly channel' it's as if I've asked them to explain the meaning of 2001 in 12 words. That doesn't exactly bode well :-?
And now they want casuals to pay £50-£60 for fights? The model will crash and burn, they needed the casuals on board and asking for 6 months minumum contract makes it impossible to get casuals to even bother.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 16:06
by Final round
60 quid? for six months, I pay more for Sky for one month than that.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 16:15
by leforge
From its twitter earlier "SKY customers: please hold off on subscription if you haven’t registered a phone no. with Sky. We’re having technical issues with payments"

They known the start date for months why not have payments sorted week before its starts.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 18:23
by iamasadlittleboy
Final round wrote:60 quid? for six months, I pay more for Sky for one month than that.
Are casuals going to pay £60 for just boxing?...No, are they going to pay for Premier League Football, Super League, Darts, Snooker, some boxing etc etc...yes. (Though I'm guessing your getting a fair bit more than just sports for £60)

Whats this crap paywizard thing as well? Why not just add it to sky packages?

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 18:27
by Final round
iamasadlittleboy wrote:
Final round wrote:60 quid? for six months, I pay more for Sky for one month than that.
Are casuals going to pay £60 for just boxing?...No, are they going to pay for Premier League Football, Super League, Darts, Snooker, some boxing etc etc...yes. (Though I'm guessing your getting a fair bit more than just sports for £60)

Whats this crap paywizard thing as well? Why not just add it to sky packages?

Yeah it's more like £70 that's with movies and broadband each month £420 over six months which is a fair old whack.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 18:27
by fizzjambo
Dioufy wrote:So, according to Buncey, because I ain't paying for this am I not a "real boxing-fan"?

I took great exception to that.

:shame:

So you take great exception an vague slight from someone you don't know and yet in your previous post claim to feel like a 'gang rape' victim at the hands of someone else you've never met before?

I can only presume that you've never known (or knownly known) a victim of rape as I know which remark most people would take exception to.

I know your a regular poster here but that's out of order

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 28 Nov 2011, 19:41
by Dioufy
fizzjambo wrote:
Dioufy wrote:So, according to Buncey, because I ain't paying for this am I not a "real boxing-fan"?

I took great exception to that.

:shame:

So you take great exception an vague slight from someone you don't know and yet in your previous post claim to feel like a 'gang rape' victim at the hands of someone else you've never met before?

I can only presume that you've never known (or knownly known) a victim of rape as I know which remark most people would take exception to.

I know your a regular poster here but that's out of order
No offence intended. If I offended anyone then I am sorry. But Frank is still a pudendum.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 29 Nov 2011, 03:01
by Final round
BIGMARK wrote:Well i have been trying to look into booking the channel today (boxing whore i am) but seeing I have no phone line attached to my sky box or telephone number registered with Sky I can't. There is also the business of having to use something call Paywizard to pay which I'm not happy with. I don't get why i can't phone a number to have it booked like a did primetime. :witzend:

I was never happy about the channel taking boxing even further away from the fans/ casual fans but would of paid for it but can't.
If you don't have your phone line in do you get Sky Anytime updated?

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 29 Nov 2011, 05:07
by whiskey
The sky box is activated by them calling up your box and decrypting the channel.

They might be on sky, but they are not a sky-owned channel.

They can have 'purchase by remote' via satellite rather than telephone link which is miles simpler, but they will have to pay more for this service. Plus takes longer to set up. Primetime took ages too before the telephone connection wasn't required.

You would still need a card registering though with via phone or online, to charge you for their service. Whereas a Sky owned channel simply adds it to your monthly bill.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 29 Nov 2011, 05:19
by whiskey
Final round wrote:
If you don't have your phone line in do you get Sky Anytime updated?
All sky content is updated via satellite.

It's only if you have 2 boxes, they want phone lines connected to them. So they can dial in and check they are both on same line.

Sometimes 2 apartments get a box each and split the bill, pretending it's one dwelling. Also pubs who need a special (and expensive) public licence for the system that's behind the bar.

You can always tell if a pub is illegally showing stuff on sky, because there should be a little pint pot in the corner of the screen.

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 29 Nov 2011, 05:29
by gobbles
BIGMARK wrote:
Final round wrote:
BIGMARK wrote:Well i have been trying to look into booking the channel today (boxing whore i am) but seeing I have no phone line attached to my sky box or telephone number registered with Sky I can't. There is also the business of having to use something call Paywizard to pay which I'm not happy with. I don't get why i can't phone a number to have it booked like a did primetime. :witzend:

I was never happy about the channel taking boxing even further away from the fans/ casual fans but would of paid for it but can't.
If you don't have your phone line in do you get Sky Anytime updated?
YES
I never have my phone line plugged in, but mine went through OK

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 29 Nov 2011, 08:26
by gobbles
BIGMARK wrote:
gobbles wrote:
BIGMARK wrote: YES
I never have my phone line plugged in, but mine went through OK
yes. It was very simple. Took 5 mins
Really, maybe I will give it a go. Did you pay with the Paywizard ?

Re: Will you be subscribing to Allegedly channel?

Posted: 29 Nov 2011, 09:03
by jtourettes
G0mez wrote:
Final round wrote:
If you don't have your phone line in do you get Sky Anytime updated?
All sky content is updated via satellite.

It's only if you have 2 boxes, they want phone lines connected to them. So they can dial in and check they are both on same line.

Sometimes 2 apartments get a box each and split the bill, pretending it's one dwelling. Also pubs who need a special (and expensive) public licence for the system that's behind the bar.

You can always tell if a pub is illegally showing stuff on sky, because there should be a little pint pot in the corner of the screen.
Well, the football isn't illegal to show anymore following the court case...